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________________ IITHILI AptavANI, kaisI kriyAkArI! yaha'jJAnI puruSa kI vANI hai aura phira tAjI hai| vartamAna paryAya haiM isalie unheM par3hate hI hamAre sabhI paryAya badalate jAte haiM aura vaise-vaise AnaMda utpanna hotA jAtA hai| aise karate-karate yoM hI samakita ho jAe kisIko! kyoMki yaha vItarAgI vANI hai| rAga-dveSa rahita vANI ho to kAma hotA hai, nahIM to kAma nahIM hotaa| mahAvIra bhagavAna kI vItarAga vANI thI, usakA asara Aja taka ho rahA hai, 2500 varSa hae phira bhI usakA asara hotA hai, to jJAnI puruSa' kI vANI kA bhI asara hotA hai, do cAra pIr3hiyoM taka to hotA hI hai| vItarAga vANI ke alAvA dUsarA koI upAya nahIM hai, mokSa meM jAne ke lie| -dAdAzrI S AtmavijJAnI e. ema. paTela' ke bhItara prakaTa hue dAdA bhagavAnanA asIma jaya jayakAra ho / ISBN 978-81-89933-73-9 AptavANI zreNI-4 97881890933739 Printed in India Price:
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________________ dAdA bhagavAna prarUpita AptavANI zreNI - 4 mUla gujarAtI saMkalana : DaoN. nIrUbahana amIna hindI anuvAda : mahAtmAgaNa prakAzaka ajIta sI. paTela mahAvideha phAunDezana (c) bhAva mUlya : prathama saMskaraNa pratiyA~ 3000, dravya mUlya : 'dAdA darzana', 5, mamatApArka sosAiTI, navagujarAta kaoNleja ke pIche, usmAnapurA, ahamadAbAda 380014, gujarAta phona - (079) 27540408, 27543979 All Rights reserved - Shri Deepakbhai Desai Trimandir, Simandhar City, Ahmedabad-Kalol Highway, Post - Adalaj. Dist.-Gandhinagar-382421, Gujarat, India. mudraka 'parama vinaya' aura 'maiM kucha 70 rupaye navambara 2010 bhI jAnatA nahIM', yaha bhAva ! lesara kampoz2a dAdA bhagavAna phAunDezana, ahamadAbAda : mahAvideha phAunDezana (prinTiMga DivIz2ana), pArzvanAtha caimbarsa, nae riz2arva baiMka ke pAsa, usmAnapurA, ahamadAbAda- 380014. phona : (079) 27542964, 27540216
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________________ samarpaNa Adhi, vyAdhi, upAdhi ke trividha kaliyugI tApa meM bhayaMkara rUpa se tApyamAna, ekamAtra Atma-samAdhisukha ke tRSAturoM ke parama tRpti kAja, prakaTa paramAtmAsvarUpa sthita vAtsalyamUrti 'dAdA bhagavAna ke jagata kalyANa yajJa meM Ahuti svarUpa, parama RNIya bhAva se smrpit| trimaMtra Apta-vijJApana he sujJajana ! terA hI svarUpa' Aja maiM tere hAthoM meM A rahA hU~ ! usakA parama vinaya karanA, jisase tU svayaMma ke dvArA tere 'sva' ke hI parama vinaya meM rahakara sva-sukhavAlI, parAdhIna nahIM ho aisI, svataMtra AptatA kA anubhava karegA! yahI hai sanAtana AptatA hai| alaukika puruSa kI AptavANI kI! yahI sanAtana dharma hai, alaukika AptatA kA! jaya saccidAnaMda
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________________ dAdA bhagavAna phAunDezana ke dvArA prakAzita pustakeM hindI 1. jJAnI purUSa kI pahacAna 20. pati-patnI kA divya 2. sarva duHkhoM se mukti vyavahAra 3. karma kA vijJAna 21. mAtA-pitA aura baccoM kA 4. Atmabodha vyavahAra 5. maiM kauna hU~? 22. samajha se prApta brahmacarya 6. vartamAna tIrthakara zrI sImaMdhara svAmI 24. mAnava dharma 7. bhugate usI kI bhUla 25. sevA-paropakAra 8. eDajasTa evarIvheyara 26. mRtyu samaya, pahale aura 9. TakarAva TAlie pazcAta 10. huA so nyAya 27. nijadoSa darzana se... nirdoSa 11. ciMtA 28. prema 12. krodha 29. kleSa rahita jIvana 13. pratikramaNa 30. ahiMsA 14. dAdA bhagavAna kauna? 31. satya-asatya ke rahasya 15. paisoM kA vyavahAra 32. camatkAra 16. aMta:karaNa kA svarUpa 33. pApa-puNya 17. jagata kartA kauna? 34. vANI, vyavahAra meM... 18. trimaMtra 35. AptavANI-1 19. bhAvanA se sudhare janmojanma 36. AptavANI-4 dAdA bhagavAna kauna ? jUna 1958 kI eka saMdhyA kA karIba cha: baje kA samaya, bhIr3a se bharA sUrata zahara kA relve sTezana, pleTaphArma naM. 3 kI beMca para baiThe zrI aMbAlAla mUlajIbhAI paTela rUpI dehamaMdira meM kudaratI rUpa se, akrama rUpa meM, kaI janmoM se vyakta hone ke lie Atara 'dAdA bhagavAna' pUrNa rUpa se prakaTa hue| aura kudarata ne sarjita kiyA adhyAtma kA adbhuta aashcry| eka ghaMTe meM unheM vizvadarzana huaa| 'maiM kauna? bhagavAna kauna? jagat kauna calAtA hai? karma kyA? mukti kyA?' ityAdi jagat ke sAre AdhyAtmika praznoM ke saMpUrNa rahasya prakaTa hue| isa taraha kudarata ne vizva ke sammukha eka advitIya pUrNa darzana prastuta kiyA aura usake mAdhyama bane zrI aMbAlAla mUlajIbhAI paTela, gujarAta ke carotara kSetra ke bhAdaraNa gA~va ke pATIdAra, kAnTrekTa kA vyavasAya karanevAle, phira bhI pUrNatayA vItarAga puruSa! unheM prApti huI, usI prakAra kevala do hI ghaMToM meM anya mumukSu janoM ko bhI ve AtmajJAna kI prApti karavAte the. unake adabhUta siddha hue jJAnaprayoga se| use akrama mArga khaa| akrama, arthAt binA krama ke, aura krama arthAt sIr3hI dara sIr3hI, kramAnusAra Upara cddh'naa| akrama arthAt liphTa mArga, zaoNrTa kaTa! ve svayaM pratyeka ko 'dAdA bhagavAna kauna?' kA rahasya batAte hue kahate the ki "yaha jo Apako dikhate hai ve dAdA bhagavAna nahIM hai, ve to 'e.ema.paTela' hai| hama jJAnI puruSa haiM aura bhItara prakaTa hue haiM, ve 'dAdA bhagavAna' haiN| dAdA bhagavAna to caudaha loka ke nAtha haiN| ve Apa meM bhI haiM, sabhI meM haiN| ApameM avyakta rUpa meM rahe hue haiM aura 'yahA~' hamAre bhItara saMpUrNa rUpa se vyakta hue haiN| dAdA bhagavAna ko maiM bhI namaskAra karatA huuN|" 'vyApAra meM dharma honA cAhie, dharma meM vyApAra nahIM'. isa siddhAMta se unhoMne pUrA jIvana bitaayaa| jIvana meM kabhI bhI unhoMne kisIke pAsa | se paisA nahIM liyA, balki apanI kamAI se bhaktoM ko yAtrA karavAte the| dAdA bhagavAna phAunDezana ke dvArA gujarAtI bhASA meM bhI 55 pustakeM prakAzita huI hai| vebasAiTa www.dadabhagwan.org para se bhI Apa ye sabhI pustakeM prApta kara sakate haiN| dAdA bhagavAna phAunDezana ke dvArA hara mahIne hindI, gujarAtI tathA aMgrejI bhASA meM "dAdAvANI" maigez2Ina prakAzita hotI hai|
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________________ AtmajJAna prApti kI pratyakSa liMka 'maiM to kucha logoM ko apane hAthoM siddhi pradAna karanevAlA huuN| bAda meM anugAmI cAhie yA nahIM cAhie? bAda meM logoM ko mArga to cAhie na?" - dAdAzrI parama pUjya dAdAzrI gA~va-gA~va, deza-videza paribhramaNa karake mumukSujanoM ko satsaMga aura AtmajJAna kI prApti karavAte the| ApazrI ne apane jIvanakAla meM hI pUjya DaoN. nIrUbahana amIna (nIrUmA~) ko AtmajJAna prApta karavAne kI jJAnasiddhi pradAna kI thii| dAdAzrI ke dehavilaya pazcAt nIrUmA~ usI prakAra mumukSujanoM ko satsaMga aura AtmajJAna kI prApti, nimitta bhAva se karavA rahI thiiN| pUjya dIpakabhAI desAI ko dAdAzrI ne satsaMga karane kI siddhi pradAna kI thii| nIrUmA~ kI upasthiti meM hI unake AzIrvAda se pUjya dIpakabhAI deza-videzo meM kaI jagahoM para jAkara mumukSuoM ko AtmajJAna karavA rahe the, jo nIrUmA~ ke dehavilaya pazcAt Aja bhI jArI hai| isa AtmajJAna prApti ke bAda hajAroM mumukSu saMsAra meM rahate hue, jimmedAriyA~ nibhAte hue bhI mukta rahakara AtmaramaNatA kA anubhava karate haiN| graMtha meM mudrita vANI mokSArthI ko mArgadarzana meM atyaMta upayogI siddha hogI, lekina mokSaprApti hetu AtmajJAna prApta karanA jarUrI hai| akrama mArga ke dvArA AtmajJAna kI prApti kA mArga Aja bhI khulA hai| jaise prajvalita dIpaka hI dUsarA dIpaka prajvalita kara sakatA hai, usI prakAra pratyakSa AtmajJAnI se AtmajJAna prApta kara ke hI svayaM kA AtmA jAgRta ho sakatA hai| nivedana AtmavijJAnI zrI aMbAlAla mUlajIbhAI paTela, jinheM loga 'dAdA bhagavAna' ke nAma se bhI jAnate haiM, unake zrImukha se adhyAtma tathA vyavahAra jJAna saMbaMdhI jo vANI nikalI, usako rikaoNrDa karake , saMkalana tathA saMpAdana karake pustakoM ke rUpa meM prakAzita kiyA jAtA haiN| jJAnI puruSa saMpUjya dAdA bhagavAna ke zrImukha se adhyAtma tathA vyavahArajJAna saMbaMdhI vibhinna viSayoM para nikalI sarasvatI kA adbhuta saMkalana isa AptavANI meM huA hai, jo naye pAThakoM ke lie varadAnarUpa sAbita hogii| prastuta anuvAda meM yaha vizeSa dhyAna rakhA gayA hai ki vAcaka ko dAdAjI kI hI vANI sunI jA rahI hai, aisA anubhava ho| unakI hindI ke bAre meM unake hI zabda meM kaheM to "hamArI hindI yAne gujarAtI, hindI aura aMgrejI kA miksacara hai, lekina jaba 'TI' (cAya) banegI, taba acchI bnegii|" jJAnI kI vANI ko hindI bhASA meM yathArtha rUpa se anuvAdita karane kA prayatna kiyA gayA hai kintu dAdAzrI ke AtmajJAna kA sahI Azaya, jyoM kA tyoM to, Apako gujarAtI bhASA meM hI avagata hogaa| jinheM jJAna kI gaharAI meM jAnA ho, jJAna kA sahI marma samajhanA ho, vaha isa hetu gujarAtI bhASA sIkheM, aisA hamArA anurodha hai| prastuta pustaka meM kaI jagahoM para koSThaka meM darzAye gaye zabda yA vAkya parama pUjya dAdAzrI dvArA bole gaye vAkyoM ko adhika spaSTatApUrvaka samajhAne ke lie likhe gaye haiN| jabaki kucha jagahoM para aMgrejI zabdoM ke hindI artha ke rUpa meM rakhe gaye haiN| dAdAzrI ke zrImukha se nikale kucha gujarAtI zabda jyoM ke tyoM rakhe gaye haiM, kyoMki una zabdoM ke lie hindI meM aisA koI zabda nahIM hai, jo usakA pUrNa artha de ske| hAlAMki una zabdoM ke samAnArthI zabda artha ke rUpa meM diye gaye haiN| anuvAda saMbaMdhI kamiyoM ke lie Apase kSamAprArthI haiN|
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________________ AptavANiyoM ke hindI anuvAda ke lie parama pUjya dAdAzrI kI bhAvanA 'ye AptavANiyA~ eka se ATha chapa gaI haiN| dUsarI caudaha taka taiyAra honevAlI haiM, caudaha bhaag| ye AptavANiyA~ hindI meM chapa jAe~ to sAre hindustAna meM phaila jaaeNgii|' - dAdAzrI parama pUjya dAdA bhagavAna (dAdAzrI) ke zrImukha se Aja se paccIsa sAla pahale nikalI isa bhAvanA ke phalita hone kI yaha zurUAta hai aura Aja AptavANI-4 kA hindI anuvAda Apake hAthoM meM hai| bhaviSya meM aura bhI AptavANIyoM tathA graMthoM kA hindI anuvAda upalabdha hogA, usI bhAvanA ke sAtha jaya sccidaanNd| saMpAdakIya vizva nimitta naimittika niraMtara pravartanazIla hI hai| mUla avinAzI dravyoM ke saMyoga-saMbaMdha kA yaha vizeSa pariNAma hai| vizeSa pariNAma kA vilaya aura sva-svabhAva kA sthitikaraNa hara eka jIva kI kAmanA hai| nimitta dvArA hI chUTa sakatA hai| aura vaha AtyaMtika mukti dilavAnevAle ekamAtra nimitta AtmAnubhavI prakaTa'jJAnI puruSa' haiN| jinake saMyoga saMbaMdha se maktadazA anubhavagamya nizcita hai, aisA vartamAna kAla meM anekoM kA anubhava hai| jo jJAna sAmAnya rUpa se jJAna kahA jAtA hai, vaha jJAnI' kI dRSTi se buddhi kA AvirbhAva hai| yathArthajJAna, AtmajJAna pAraMparika jJAna se lAkhoM mIla dUra hai| AtmavijJAna svarUpa se hai| jisane AtmavijJAna jAna liyA, vaha jIvanamukta huaa| aise ye 'jJAnI' anekoM ko mile aura unheM jIvanamukta dazA milii| hara eka ko yaha prApta ho, yahI abhilASA! AtmA niHzabda hai, avAcya hai, phira bhI prakaTa paramAtmA ko sparza karake prakaTa hue saMjJAsUcaka zabda hRdaya bIMdhakara, anaMta AvaraNa bhedakara AtmA ko 'kevala' taka prakAzamAna karate haiN| vaisI anupama vANI ko 'AptavANI' meM aMkita karake jJAnapipAsuoM taka pahu~cAne kA alpa prayAsa haA hai| AptavANI aise to parokSa rUpa meM hI hai, parantu vartamAna meM vidyamAna 'jJAnI puruSa' kI AbhA avazya hRdayabhedI banakara vAcakoM ke lie samyaka darzana ke dvAra ko kholanevAlI bnegii| usase prakaTa honevAlA darzana jIvana meM dhIre-dhIre aMgulinirdeza karate-karate aMtima dhyeya, kevala AtmAnubhUti' ke zikhara sAdhya karake hI rhegaa| AptavANI zreNI-4 meM, jagat ne kabhI jAnA nahIM ho, kalpanA nahIM kI ho vaise gahana nirAkaraNavAle hala ko sAdI, sIdhI, sarala, sthAnIya bhASA meM parama pUjya zrI dAdA bhagavAna ke zrImukha se pravAhita pratyakSa sarasvatI ko saMkalita kiyA gayA hai| sAmAnya rUpa se jagat jise jAgRti kahatA hai, jJAnI to use nidrA kahate haiM ! jise dRSTA mAnate haiM, vahI dRzya hai| maiM jAgRta hU~' vaha bhAna jise baratatA hai pAThakoM se... 'AptavANI' meM mudrita pAThyasAmagrI mUlata: gujarAtI 'AptavANI' zreNI-4 kA hindI rupAMtara hai| isa 'AptavANI' meM 'AtmA' zabda ko saMskRta aura gujarAtI bhASA kI taraha pulliMga meM prayoga kiyA gayA hai| jahA~-jahA~ 'caMdUlAla' nAma kA prayoga kiyA gayA hai, vahA~-vahA~ pAThaka svayaM kA nAma samajhakara paThana kreN| 'AptavANI' meM agara koI bAta Apa samajha na pAe~ to pratyakSa satsaMga meM padhAra kara samAdhAna prApta kreN|
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________________ vahI anAtma vibhAga hai| Atmapradeza to usase bilkula hI nyArA hai| 'rileTiva' aura 'riyala' kA tAdAtmya itanA adhika pravartita hotA hai| ki ninyAnave taka donoM samAnAMtara, daraasala 'riyala' ke pratibiMba (phoTo) ke svarUpa meM bhAsyamAna 'rileTiva' sAmIpyabhAva meM tAdAtmya rUpa se pravartate haiN| jisa aMtima kar3I ke mAdhyama se ve donoM bhinna hote haiM, usakA rahasya anubhavI 'jJAnI puruSa' dvArA hI prakAzamAna hotA hai| vahIM para bhrAMtajAgRti aura AtmajAgRti kA bhavya bheda anubhava meM AtA hai| kitane hI kAla se prArabdha aura puruSArtha ke bheda ke spaSTIkaraNa ke lie maMthana huA hai / anubhavI 'jJAnI' usa bheda ko batAkara bhI gae haiN| parantu parokSa jJAna kI pravartanA meM unakI yathArtha samajha pUrNarUpa se vichinna ho gaI hai| sAmAnyarUpa se kartRtva ke bhAna ko, vaise prayatnoM ko aura unake pariNAmoM ko puruSArtha mAnA jAtA hai| 'jJAnI' kI dRSTi se vaha saMpUrNa prArabdha hai| pA~ca indriyoM se, mana se, jo kucha bhI pravartana hotA hai, vaha saba prArabdha ke adhIna hai| puruSArtha vibhAga sUkSma hai, jisakI thAha pAnA kaThina hai| jIva mAtra se bhrAMta puruSArtha hotA hI rahatA hai| jisake AdhAra para jIva kA kAraNa kArya kA kAlacakra avirata rUpa se gatimAna rahatA hai| yathArtha puruSArtha prakaTa hone para vaha virAma pAtA hai| yathArtha puruSArtha puruSa hone ke bAda hI pariNAma meM AtA hai / yathArtha puruSArtha akhaMDa, avirata aura nirAlaMba hai, jisakI jAgRti se niraMtara mukta dazA pravartatI hai| vizva meM vastuoM kI kamI nahIM hai, parantu unakI prApti nahIM hotI hai| kyoMki khuda ke hI DAle hue aMtarAya unheM rokate haiN| ina aMtarAyoM ke rahasya, vaise hI unase jAgRta rahane kI sabhI guhya cAbiyA~ prakaTa 'jJAnI puruSa' ne sarala aura sahaja rUpa se spaSTa kI hai| karma kyA hai? karma kisase baMdhate haiM? kisase chUTate haiM? karma kI mAtA kauna? pitA kauna? ityAdi, ityAdi uThanevAle guhya praznoM kA nirAkaraNa honA ati kaThina hai| zAstra sabakucha kahate haiM, parantu ve dizAnirdeza ke samAna hai| dRSTi meM pharka hone se uttara dizA kA nirdeza, dakSiNa kA mAnakara calate jAte haiN| 11 phira dillI kahA~ se Ae? aura carama prakAra kA spaSTIkaraNa dene meM to zAstra bhI asamartha haiM, vahA~ para to 'jJAnI puruSa' kA hI kAma hai| karma jaise ati-ati guhya viSaya kA jJAna parama pUjya dAdAzrI ne sahaja rUpa se khela-khela meM hI samajhA diyA hai| vANI TeparikaoNrDa hai, sarvaprathama aisA kahakara vANI ke bAre meM sArI tanmayatA ko parama pUjya dAdAzrI ne phrekcara kara diyA hai| yaha 'rikaoNrDa' kisa prakAra bajatA hai| kisa prakAra 'rikaoNrDa' taiyAra hotA hai? usake kyA-kyA pariNAma haiM? vagairaha vagairaha sUkSmAtisUkSma rahasya kholakara, vANI kA vikaTa vijJAna sAmAnyajana ko bhI pUjya dAdAzrI ne samajhA diyA hai| aise anya aneka viSayoM ke rahasya prakaTa kie haiN| jinheM, ho sake utane prakAzita karane ke prayatna kie gae haiN| AzA hai, pojiTiva jIvanalakSI vicAraka, tatvaciMtaka, jijJAsuoM, vaise hI mumukSuoM ko AptavANI prati kSaNa kI jAgRti denevAlI banI rhegii| prastuta graMtha kI kamiyA~ eka mAtra, 'jJAnI puruSa' ke zrImukha se pravAhita huI pratyakSa sarasvatI ko parokSa meM pariNamita karane meM upajI huI saMkalana kI khAmI hI hai, jisakI hRdayapUrvaka kSamA prArthanA.... - DaoN. nIrUbahana amIna ke jaya saccidAnaMda 12
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________________ upodghAta [1] jAgRti 'khuda' AtmA hai, pUre brahmAMDa ko prakAzamAna karane kI kSamatA rakhatA hai, 'khuda' anaMta zakti kA dhanI hai| phira bhI ye sArI lAcArI, vedanA, duHkha, ni:sahAyatA anubhava karatA hai| yaha kitanA bar3A Azcarya hai ! isakA kAraNa kyA hai? khuda ke svarUpa kA, khuda kI zakti kA, khuda kI sattA kA hI 'khuda' ko bhAna nahIM hai| eka bAra 'khuda' jAgRta ho jAe to pUre brahmAMDa ke svAmI jaisA sukha brte| pUrA jagat bhAvanidrA meM phaMsA huA hai| isa loka aura paraloka ke hitAhita kI abhAnatA, krodha-mAna-mAyA-lobha. matabheda. ciMtAe~, ye sabhI bhAvanidrA ke kAraNa Tike hue haiN| paudgalika jAgRti meM pUrA jagat khoyA huA hai, jaba ki jJAnI to Atmika jAgRti meM, kevala AtmA meM hI ramaNatA karate haiN| saMpUrNa jAgRti, vaha kevalajJAna hai, jAgRti sau pratizata taka pahu~ce taba kevalajJAna prakaTa hotA hai| jAgRti hI mokSa kI jananI hai| saMsAra-jAgRti kI vRddhi hone se saMsAra asAra lagatA hai, jo aMta meM utkRSTa vairAgya meM pariNamita hotA hai| aura jAgRti kI parAkASThA para pahu~cA huA indriya jJAna kabhI bhI matabheda meM nahIM par3atA, 'evarIvhera eDajesTebala' hotA hai| bAkI, ajAgRti meM hI krodha-mAnamAyA-lobha kA upArjana hotA hai| kaSAya hue usakA patA bhI nahIM cale - vaha mahAna ajAgRta, usakA patA cale - vaha kama ajAgRta aura jo aisA hone ke bAda pratikramaNa karake dho DAle - vaha jAgRta kahalAtA hai| aura saccA jAgRta to kaSAya hone se pahale hI mor3a le- vh| kaSAyoM ko khurAka de de, vaha bhayaMkara ajAgRta kahalAtA hai| nija ke doSadarzana jAgRti kI nizAnI hai| anya ke doSadarzana jAgRti para bhayaMkara AvaraNa lAnevAle hote haiN| 'jJAnI' jAgRti ke 'TaoNpa' (zikhara) para birAje hue hote haiN| khuda ke sUkSmatara aura sUkSmatama bhUloM ke, jo ki jagat meM kisIko bAdhaka nahIM hote, unheM jJAna meM dekhate hoM aura dho DAlate hoM, khuda nirdoSa hokara pUre jagat ko nirdoSa dekheM, vaha jAgRti kI aMtima dazA kahalAtI hai| sarvocca jAgRti kauna-sI, ki kisIke sAtha bAta kareM, taba usa lakSya sahita kareM ki sAmanevAlA vyakti vAstava meM to zuddhAtmA hI hai| kramikamArga meM bhAvajAgRti ko sarvottama mAnA hai, jaba ki akrama meM to bhAvAbhAva se pare aisI svabhAvajAgRti, 'jJAnI-kRpA' se sahaja hI utpanna ho jAtI hai| jJAtA-jJeya rUpa meM saMpUrNa jJAna niraMtara hAz2ira rahe, vaha saMpUrNa jAgRti kahalAtI hai| jJAnI puruSa' kI AjJA meM niraMtara rahA jAe, vaha U~cI jAgRti kahalAtI hai| jIva-mAtra ke bhItara zaddhAtmA darzana kA upayoga rahe, vaha bhI U~cI jAgRti mAnI jAtI hai| prathama vyavahAra jAgRti jagatI hai| usake bAda vyavahAra meM soe aura adhyAtma meM jAgRti jagatI hai| vyavahAra jAgRti meM AyA kaba kahalAtA hai ki kahIM bhI TakarAva meM nahIM Ae, matabheda nahIM ho| vyavahAra jAgati meM kaSAya khUba hote haiM, jaba ki nizcaya jAgRti meM kaSAya nirmala ho gae hote haiM! aMta:karaNa kI pratyeka kriyA meM jAgata, vaha saccI jAgati! jAgati kI zurUAta meM khuda se koI kabhI bhI klezita nahIM hotA, usake bAda dUsaroM se khuda kabhI bhI klezita nahIM hotA aura aMtima jAgRti meM to sahaja samAdhi rahatI hai| kuMDalinI jAgRti yA meDiTezana, ve jAgRti ko bar3hAnevAle nahIM haiM, parantu ahaMkAra ko bar3hAnevAle haiN| meDiTezana eka prakAra kI mAdakatA hI hai| jalana meM jAgRti vikasita honA saMbhava hai, jaba ki meDiTezana kI mAdakatA se jAgRti para rAkha phaila jAtI hai! khuda ke svarUpa kI jAgRti meM Ae, taba se lekara TheTha kevalajJAna taka kI jAgRti meM A cuke jAgRta puruSoM kI bhajanA se usa dazA taka kI jAgRti prApta ho aisA hai! saMpUrNa jAgRta, AtyaMtika kalyANa ke parama nimitta aise vItarAga tIrthaMkara zrI sImaMdhara svAmI jo vartamAna meM mahAvideha kSetra meM vidyamAna haiM, unake sAtha jJAnI kRpA se tAra jor3akara, unakI niraMtara
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________________ bhajanA se unake caraNakamala meM sthAna prApta kiyA jA sakatA hai, jahA~ se mokSa saMbhava hai| bhautika meM jagat jAgatA hai, vahA~ jJAnI sote haiM aura adhyAtma meM jagat sotA hai, vahA~ jJAnI jAgate haiM! saMsArI jAgRti ahaMkAra sahita hai aura jahA~ nirahaMkArI jAgRti hai, vahA~ mukti ! [2] dhyAna dhyAna kyA hai? dhyAna, vaha karane kI cIz2a nahIM hai| dhyAna to sahaja hI utpanna hotA hai| dhyAna, vaha pariNAma hai| jagat jise dhyAna kahatA hai, vaha dhyAna, dhyAna nahIM hai, para ekAgratA hai| vItarAgoM ne cAra prakAra ke dhyAna batAe haiN| koI gAlI de, taba aMdara ulTe pariNAma khar3e hoM, raudra pariNAma khar3e hoM, unheM raudradhyAna kahA hai aura una pariNAmoM kA asara khuda ko aura sAmanevAle ko bhI pahu~catA hai ! aba yadi vaha asara khuda taka hI sImita rahe, anya ko sahaja bhI coTa nahIM pahu~cAe, vaha ArtadhyAna hai| merA kyA hogA? bhaviSya kI ciMtA, vaha ArtadhyAna meM samAtA hai| asara karanevAlI ghaTanAoM meM, aisA pariNAma khar3A ho ki yaha to mere hI karma kA udaya hai, sAmanevAlA nimitta hai, nirdoSa hai, to vaha dharmadhyAna hai| khuda kA svarUpa zuddhAtmA hai, vaisA niraMtara lakSya meM rahe, sAmanevAle meM zuddhAtmA ke darzana hote raheM, vaha zukladhyAna / dhyeya nakkI ho jAe aura khuda dhyAtA ho jAe, phira donoM kA saMyojana ho jAe, taba dhyAna sahaja hI utpanna hotA hai| dhyeya nakkI hone meM ahaMkAra kA astitva hai, dhyAna meM nhiiN| kriyA meM ahaMkAra hotA hai, dhyAna meM nhiiN| kriyA dhyAna nahIM hai, para kriyA meM se jo pariNAma utpanna hotA hai, vaha dhyAna hai, jisameM ahaMkAra nahIM hai| dhyAna kiyA nahIM jAtA, ho jAtA hai| ArtadhyAna, raudradhyAna ho jAtA hai| koI unheM karatA nahIM hai, dharmadhyAna aura zukladhyAna bhI sahaja ho jAte haiN| ArtadhyAna ho jAne ke bAda yadi 'maiM ArtadhyAna kara rahA hU~' vaisI mAnyatA ghera le, vahA~ ahaMkAra hai| Arta, raudra aura dharmadhyAna meM dhyAtA ahaMkAra hai| zukladhyAna meM ahaMkAra dhyAtA nahIM 15 hai, vaha to svAbhAvika pariNati hai, zukladhyAna- vaha AtmapariNati hai| AtmadhyAna ke alAvA anya kisI dhyAna kA mokSa ke lie mahatva nahIM hai| AtmadhyAna niraMtara samAdhi meM rakhatA hai| rAga-dveSa nikAlane ke lie dhyAna nahIM karanA hai| vItarAga vijJAna samajheM, taba rAga-dveSa jAte haiN| [3] prArabdha-puruSArtha prArabdha aura puruSArtha kI bhedarekhA samajhe binA 'khuda' kA karttApana, akarttApana kitanA hai, vaha khuda ko kaise samajha meM Ae ? pUrA jagat isa anasulajhI pahelI meM pha~sA huA hai| daraasala puruSArtha - dharma meM Ae hue 'jJAnI puruSa' ke binA kauna yaha bheda prApta karavAe ? vizva meM isa kAla meM prathama bAra prArabdha aura puruSArtha ke sUkSmAtisUkSma bheda saMpUjya zrI dAdAzrI kI vANI dvArA prakaTa hue haiM, jo mumukSuoM ko naI rAha dikhAte haiN| pA~ca indriyoM se jo-jo hotA hai, vaha puruSArtha nahIM hai, sabakucha prArabdha hI hai| subaha se zAma taka bhAgadaur3a karate haiM, naukarI-dhaMdhA karate haiM, zvAsa lete-chor3ate haiM, pustaka par3hate haiM, zAstra par3hate haiM, sAmAyika karate haiM, japatapa karate haiM, vaha sArA hI prArabdha hai| bhojana khAne ke bAda pAcana meM hamArA kyA puruSArtha hai? 'hamArI' dakhala ke binA kudarata aMdara kI mazInarI itane suMdara prakAra se calAtI hai to kyA vaha bAhara kA nahIM calA legI? vAstava meM to vahI calAtI hai| para usase saMbaMdhita ajJAna ke kAraNa ahaMkAra kie binA raha nahIM sakatA ki 'maiM karatA hU~' ! narmadA ke nIra meM bahate hue bar3e patthara Amane-sAmane ragar3a khAte hue, TakarAte hue, aMta meM nadI ke muhAne para zAligrAmavAle devatA bana jAte haiN| usameM kisIkA kyA puruSArtha ? aura dUsare patthara, patthara hI rahakara samudra meM DUba gae, usameM unakA kyA pramAda? isameM kisakA kitanA karttApana ? yaha to jise jo saMyoga milA, vaisA huA! samasaraNa mArga meM, dhakke khAte hue, TakarAte hue jIva aMta meM hindustAna meM janma pAte haiM aura usameM bhI 16
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________________ yadi kabhI samartha 'jJAnI puruSa' se bheMTa ho jAe aura unake dvArA samakita prApta ho gayA to ho gayA zAligrAma ! samakita hone ke bAda hI 'puruSa' hokara 'riyala' puruSArtha meM AtA hai, taba taka bhrAMta puruSArtha hI kahalAtA hai| pudgala pariNati meM kahIM bhI rAga-dveSa nahIM ho, vaha 'riyala' puruSArtha / ahaMkAra ke astitva ke kAraNa karmabIja Dalate hI rahate haiM, jo pariNAma svarUpa kar3ave yA mIThe phala dete hI haiN| aba vahA~ ulTe pariNAma ko sIdhe meM badalanA vaha bhrAMta puruSArtha! saMyoga milA vaha prArabdha aura usameM samatA rakhe, vaha puruSArtha / phisala jAne ke saMyoga meM sthira rahe, vaha purussaarth| ArtadhyAna-raudradhyAna ko dharmadhyAna meM badala de, vaha purussaarth| 'akramajJAnI' ne prArabdha-puruSArtha kI ulajhana meM se nikAlakara 'kauna kartA' kI yathArtha samajha 'vyavasthita zakti' ke naye hI abhigama dvArA dekara prakaTa kI hai| jo svarUpalakSiyoM ko kevalajJAna taka pahu~cA de, vaisA hai! khuda ko kApanA kA bhAna baratatA hai, taba taka 'vyavasthita' kI samajha sone kI kaTArI ke samAna hai! jahA~ ahaMkAra - vahA~ 'khuda' kA karttApana, niahaMkAra vahA~ 'vyavasthita' kA krttaapn| zuddha upayoga 'riyala' puruSArtha hai| kaSAya ke saMyama ko puruSArtha kahA hai aura samatA aura jJAna se utpanna honevAle ko svabhAva kahA hai| yama, niyama, saMyama ko puruSArtha kahA hai| saMyama aura tapa meM kyA pharka hai? saMyama meM tapanA nahIM hotA aura tapa meM tapanA hotA hai, mana ko tapAnA hotA hai! jJAnI kI AjJA meM barate, vaha puruSArtha hai, vahI dharma hai| na to prArabdha bar3A, na hI puruSArtha bdd'aa| ina donoM ko jo yathArtha rUpa se samajhe vaha bar3A, aisA 'jJAnI puruSa' kaha gae haiN| phuTakara, jo milA vaha khA le, vaha prArabdhakarma aura peTa meM maroDa hoM. vaha prArabdha karma kA phala aura phuTakara khAyA jAtA hai vaha pUrvabhava ke saMcita karmoM ke kAraNa! bolo, aba isa prArabdhakarma ke phala ko badalA kisa taraha jAe? badalAva saMcitakarma nirmita hote samaya hI ho sakatA hai| sArA dravya prArabdha hai aura bhAva puruSArtha hai| bhrAMta dazA meM jIva-mAtra ko bhAva-puruSArtha calatA hI rahatA hai, usake hisAba se agale bhava ke karma baMdhate haiM, jinakA khuda ko bhI bhAna nahIM hotA! [4] zraddhA aMdhazraddhA ko ThukarAnevAle jAnate nahIM ki khuda kitanI adhika aMdhazraddhA meM hai!!! kisa zraddhA ke kAraNa pAnI pIyA jAtA hai? usameM viSa nahIM usakA kyA bharosA? khAne meM chipakalI yA jIvajaMtu nahIM par3A usakA kyA bharosA? koI isakI jA~ca karatA hai? to ye aMdhazraddhA para hI calate haiM na? isa taraha jinase aMdhazraddhA ke binA eka kadama bhI nahIM uThAyA jAtA, ve dUsaroM kI aMdhazraddhA kI kisa taraha niMdA kara sakate haiM? [5] abhiprAya abhiprAyoM ke AdhAra para dRSTi nirmita hotI hai aura vaisA hI phira dikhatA rahatA hai| koI vyakti khaTakatA rahe, usameM vaisI dRSTi kA doSa nahIM hai| usa dRSTi ko banAnevAle abhiprAya ke kAraNa yaha bhUla hotI rahatI hai| 'prijyuDIsavAlI' (pUrvAgrahavAlI) dRSTi saMsAra kA sarjana karatI hai| corI hote hae najaroM ke sAmane dekhate hae bhI cora ke prati jise kiMcit mAtra dRSTi prijyuDisa nahIM hotI, ve jJAnI ! kala jo cora hai, vaha sAhUkAra nahIM banegA, usakA kyA bharosA? svAdiSTa Ama ko indriya svIkAra kare usameM harja nahIM hai, parantu vaha phira yAda Ae usakA jokhima hai, kyoMki usake pIche yaha Ama acchA hai', vaisA abhiprAya par3A huA thA, jo rAga-dveSa meM pariNamita hotA hai| eka vastu para kendrita ho cukA z2abaradasta abhiprAya aTakaNa (jo baMdhanarUpa ho jAe, Age nahIM bar3hane de) meM pariNamita hotA hai, jisakA prabhAva bikhare hue anekoM abhiprAyoM se bhI adhika bhayaMkara prakAra se pravartita hotA hai| 'viSaya rAga-dveSavAle nahIM haiM, abhiprAya kI mAnyatA hI rAga-dveSa hai|' - daadaashrii| 18
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________________ 'jJAnI' kA yaha kathana viSayoM ko naSTa karane ke lie honevAle athaka parizrama ko gajasnAnavat kahakara haTA detA hai aura usake 'rUTakaoNja' ke samAna, viSayoM meM sukha ke abhiprAya kI galata mAnyatAoM ko naSTa karane kI dizA meM jAgRta karanevAlA hai| jaba se nakkI kiyA ki abhiprAya tor3ane haiM, taba se ve TUTane lagate haiM! avagAr3ha abhiprAya ko hararoz2a do-do ghaMTe khodate raheM, pratikramaNa dvArA, to ve khatma hoMge! jise AtmA prApta huA hai, jo 'puruSa' ho gayA hai, vaha cAhe kisI bhI prakAra ke puruSArtha aura parAkrama taka pahu~ca sakatA hai! jaisA abhiprAya vaisA pudgala pariNamita hokara milanevAlA hai| abhiprAya kA bhI abhiprAya sUkSmatA se raha gayA ho, use ukhAr3anA z2arUrI hai| abhiprAya kauna karavAtA hai? lokasaMjJA hI, kyoMki lokasaMjJA se khuda mAnyatA banAtA hai, buddhi usake anusAra nizcita karake vyavahAra karavAtI hai| jJAnI kI saMjJA se caleM, vahA~ lokasaMjJA kA lopa hotA hai! sAmanevAle ke lie honevAlA sahaja bhI ulTA vicAra sAmanevAle ko sparza karake, phira uga nikaleM, vahA~ para zUTa oNna sAiTa pratikramaNa, spaMdanoM ko sAmanevAle taka pahu~cane se rokatA hai| yA phira pahu~ce hue spaMdanoM ko miTA detA hai| aura abhiprAya miTate hI usa vyakti ke sAtha ke vANIvartana meM sAhajikatA A jAtI hai, jo sAmanevAle ko sparza kie binA nahIM rhtii| isase viruddha, doSavAle abhiprAya sahita kI dRSTi sAmanevAle ke mana para chAyA DAlatI hai| jisase usakI hAz2irI meM bhI nApasaMdagI baratatI hai| abhiprAya badalane ke lie pratispardhI abhiprAya rkheN| cora hai usa abhiprAya ko chedane ke lie cora ko sAhUkAra hai, sAhUkAra hai, kahanA par3atA hai aura aMta meM, vAstava meM to vaha zuddhAtmA hai, aisI dRSTi rakhanI par3egI! ___abhiprAya taMtIlI (vivAdavAlI, tIkhI, cubhanevAlI) vANI kA kAraNa hai, jaba ki abhiprAya kA kAraNa zaMkA hai| 'abhiprAya buddhi ke Azaya ke adhIna hai|' - daadaashrii| buddhi ne jisameM sukha mAnA usa AdhAra para abhiprAya par3atA hai| phreMcakaTa meM sukha mAnA, vahA~ phreMcakaTa kA abhiprAya par3a jAtA hai| ___'svarUpajJAna' ke bAda meM anaMta samAdhi ko kauna rokatA hai? abhiprAya ! do-pA~ca bar3e-bar3e abhiprAya khatma hue ki muktadazA kA anubhava milatA hai!! kriyA se bIja nahIM DalatA para vaha DalatA hai hetu se, abhiprAya se! svAgata yogya koI abhiprAya ho to eka brahmacarya kA aura dUsarA, yaha deha dag2A hai, usakA! abhiprAya ahaMkAra ke paramANuoM kA banA huA hai| abhiprAya, vyaktitva dikhAtA hai, dRSTi hI badalavA detA hai| mRta abhiprAya kA harja nahIM hai, AgrahavAle abhiprAya jJAna ko AvRta karate haiN| acetana ke abhiprAya chor3ane meM, basa hama chor3e utanI hI der| jaba ki mizracetana ke sAtha bA~dhe hue abhiprAya hamAre chor3a dene ke bAda bhI hameM nahIM chor3ate! jinake mu~ha bicakate haiM, vaise mizracetanavAle ke bAre meM abhiprAya bA~dhakara bAda meM kitanA ronA par3atA hai! abhiprAya se aMtarAya ko AmaMtraNa diyA jAtA hai| abhiprAyoM ke aMtarAyoM kA jokhima bhArI hai, jahA~ se chUTanA hai, vahIM para adhika bA~dhatA hai! pratiSThita AtmA kA abhiprAya utpanna huA aura taba usake anusAra yaha putalA calegA, usameM 'zuddhAtmA' mAtra 'udAsIna bhAva' se upasthita rahatA [6] kuzalatA kA aMdhApana saMsAra kA kucha bhI nahIM AtA ho, ve 'jnyaanii'| anya ko prabuddha laganevAle 'jJAnI' vAstava meM to abudha hI hote haiN| jJAnI kahate haiM, hameM to isa sattara varSa kI umra meM dAr3hI bhI banAnI nahIM aatii| khuda kisI bhI cIz2a meM eksaparTa haiM, aisA mAnanevAle khuda apane Apa ko aura sabhI ko
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________________ sAMsArika buddhi ke aMtarAya gA~Tha ke samAna aura dhArmika buddhi ke aMtarAya pakkI gA~Tha ke samAna hote haiM, anaMta janmoM taka bhaTakAte haiN| "maiM kucha jAnatA hU~', vaha bhAva adhyAtma meM sabase bar3A aMtarAya DAlatA hai| ArtadhyAnaraudradhyAna hotA hai, vahA~ kucha bhI jAnA nahIM hai, aisA phalita hotA hai| sabase bar3A aMtarAya jJAnAMtarAya hai| adhyAtma meM anya koI kucha bhI nahIM samajhatA hai, khuda hI samajhatA hai|' usase athavA koI 'svarUpajJAna' prApta karane jAe vahA~ rukAvaTa DAlate haiM, sacce 'jJAnI' mileM, phira bhI mana meM hotA hai ki aise to bahuta 'jJAnI' dekhe haiM - ye sabhI jJAnAMtarAya DAlate haiN| vahA~ mana meM bhAva ho ki, 'jJAnI' Ae haiM, para mujhase jAyA nahIM jA sakatA, to vaha aMtarAya ko tor3atA hai| [8] tiraskAra-tarachor3a 'mujhe nahIM AtA hai| aisA huA ki kAryakuzalatA para aMtarAya par3atA hai| aura 'mujhe kyoM nahIM AegA?' aisA dRr3hatA se ho, vahA~ para aMtarAya TUTate dhokhA dete haiN| eksaparTa koI ho hI nahIM sakatA, vaha to kudaratI dena hai| jJAnI to AtmavijJAna ke eksaparTa hote haiN| mana kI z2arUrateM, citta kI z2arUrateM, buddhi kI, ahaMkAra kI, khuda sabhI z2arUrateM lekara hI AyA huA hone ke kAraNa kudarata use sabhI kucha saplAi karatI hai| usameM khuda kA kyA puruSArtha? kudarata jaba pUrti karatI hI hai, taba khuda ko citta sahaja rakhanA cAhie, vahA~ upayoga nahIM bigAr3anA caahie| jIvana kA yaha sAra to nikAlanA hI par3egA na!! [7] aMtarAya 'maiM caMdUbhAI hU~' kahA ki par3a gayA aMtarAya! khuda paramAtmA hI hai, use caMdUbhAI mAna liyA?! khuda brahmAMDa kA svAmI, anaMta zakti kA dhanI, cAhe jo prApta kara sake, vaisA hone ke bAvajUda kyoM cIjeM nahIM milatI ! aMtarAya DAle haiM islie| aMtarAya se zakti AvRta ho jAtI hai! icchA aMtarAyoM ko AmaMtrita karatI hai| havA kI icchA nahIM hotI to usakA aMtarAya par3atA hai? jJAnI ko nir-icchaka pada, nir-aMtarAya pada hotA hai| kisI cIz2a kI unheM bhIkha nahIM hotii| aMtarAya kisa taraha par3ate haiM? koI de rahA ho aura khuda usameM dakhala kare, rukAvaTa DAle, usse| ajJAnadazA meM ulTe vicAroM kA rakSaNa kiyA jAtA hai. jaba ki jJAnadazA meM usakA turanta hI pratikramaNa hotA hai| zubha kArya meM anumodanA sva-para lAbhakArI hotI hai| anya kA anumodana kiyA to hameM vaise hI anumodana karanevAle mila jAe~ge! sAmanevAle ko binA akkala kA kahA, usase khuda kI akkala para aMtarAya DAlA! ___ mokSamArga meM AnevAle aMtarAyoM ke sAmane khuda kA dRr3ha nizcaya rahe, vahA~ khada kI zaktiyA~ vikasita hotI jAtI haiN| anizcaya se hI aMtarAya par3ate haiN| nizcaya aMtarAyoM ko tor3atA hai| AtmA kA nizcaya hote hI tamAma aMtarAyoM kA aMta A jAtA hai| 21 'ghaMTebhara meM to mokSa hotA hogA?' vaisA bhAva hote hI mokSa kA aMtarAya par3A! buddhi se nApA jA sake, vaisA yaha vizva nahIM hai| jJAnI puruSa jJAnAMtarAya-darzanAMtarAya tor3a dete haiM, parantu jahA~ para vinayadharma khaMDita hotA ho vahA~ 'jJAnI' bhI asamartha hote haiN| 'jJAnI' ke lie to eka bhI ulTA vicAra nahIM AnA caahie| jJAnI ke pAsa jAne meM AnevAle aMtarAyoM ke lie 'jJAnI' kI prArthanA-vidhi meM una aMtarAyoM ko tor3a dene kI prArthanA hone se, ve aMtarAya TUTate haiM! aMtarAya to bhAva se TUTate haiM! aMtarAya to bhAva se TUTate haiM aura bhAva samaya Ane para hote haiN| AtmajJAnI ke lie aMtarAya saMyoga svarUpI hote haiM, jo viyogI svabhAva ke haiM, aura khuda 'zuddhAtmA' to asaMyogI-aviyogI hai| jisakA tiraskAra - usase bhy| tiraskAra meM se bhaya janma letA hai| korTa aura pulisa ke prati tiraskAra, unake prati bhaya ko janma detA hai| 22
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________________ tiraskAra mAilDa (halkA) phala detA hai, jaba ki tarachor3a bhayaMkara aMtarAya DAla detA hai| kisIko tarachor3a nahIM lage vaisI jAgRti caahie| jise hamase tarachor3a lage, vaha hamAre lie hamezA ke lie kivADa baMda kara detA hai| vANI se lage hue tarachor3a gahare, bhare nahIM jA sakeM aise ghAva DAla dete haiM ! eka bhI jIva ko tarachor3a lagI, to mokSa ruka gayA smjho| vaisA jokhima tarachor3a meM samAyA huA hai! [9] vyaktitva saurabha 'jJAnI puruSa' kA vyaktitva nirAlA hotA hai, jinheM AtmA ke sivAya kisImeM prIti nahIM hai| mana-vacana-kAyA se bilkula alaga rUpa se AtmA meM hI baratate haiN| vyavasAya karane ke bAvajUda vItarAgatA se barate, vaise akramajJAnI kI siddhiyA~ to dekho ! jahA~ vrata nahIM huA, niyama nahIM huA, sirpha covihAra (sUryAsta se pahale bhojana kara lenA), ubale hue pAnI aura 'zrImad rAjacaMdra ke vacanAmRtoM' kA, vaise hI sarvadharma ke zAstroM kA paThanamanana thaa| bAqI kudaratI rUpa se hI yaha gaz2aba kA akrama vijJAna prakaTa huA! 1958 kI zAma ko sUrata sTezana kI beMca para jJAna prakaTa hone se pahale, bhayaMkara bhIr3a meM bhI aMtara meM nIrava zAMti ho gaI, parantu vaha bhI ahaMkAra mizrita hI na! aura jahA~ parama jyoti svarUpa prakAza prakaTa huA, pare brahmAMDa ko jJAna meM dekhA, deha se, mana se, vANI se khuda bilkula alaga ho gae the- vaisA anubhava huA, jJAtA-dRSTA aura paramAnaMda meM panapate hI isa avanI ke itihAsa kA bhavyAtibhavya dina ugA! ahaMkAra khatma ho gayA! mamatA khatma ho gaI!! unake zrImukha se pravAhita honI zurU huI vItarAga vANI hI unakI AdhyAtmika pUrNatA kA pramANa thA aura isa kalikAla kA gyArahavA~ Azcarya, akramavijJAna-asaMyati pUjA jagat se chupA nahIM raha skaa| eka ke bAda eka, aise karate-karate bIsa varSoM meM bIsa haz2Ara puNyAtmAoM ne use, akramamArga se Atma vijJAna ko prApta kiyA aura vahI sabase bar3A Azcarya hai! 'jJAnI' kA nityakrama kyA? 'jJAnI' niraMtara AtmacaryA meM hI hote haiN| mokSa meM hI hote haiN| khuda kI hI vANI ko 'TeparikaoNrDa' kahakara mAlikIbhAva 23 ke tamAma karAra phAr3a dete haiM! aise samartha nimitta hoM, ve to upAdAna kI kamI bhI calA lete haiM! prema ke binA bhakti paidA nahIM hotii| pUrA dina bhagavAna bhulAe hI nahIM jAe~, vaha premalakSaNA bhakti hai| jJAnI ne svayaM nirdoSa hokara, nirdoSa dRSTi karake, pUre jagat ko nirdoSa dekhaa| zuddhAtmA doSa karatA ho, to vaha doSita mAnA jaae| vaha to saMpUrNa akartA hai, phira doSa dekhane kA rahA hI kahA~? 'DiscArja' meM kisIkA doSa kahA~ se hogA? eka bhI vyakti yadi doSita dikhe, vahA~ zuddhi nahIM hai, vahA~ indriya jJAna hai, AtmajJAna nahIM hai! vicAroM se mAranevAlA kudarata kA gunahagAra aura vAstava meM mAranevAlA jagat kA gunahagAra ThaharatA hai| donoM ko nyAya milatA hI hai| vicAroM meM mAranevAlA agale janma kA gunahagAra banatA hai, jaba ki vAstava meM mAranevAle ko isa janma meM hI daMDa milane se nikAla ho jAtA hai! 'maiMne khAyA' bolane meM harja nahIM hai, parantu bhItara jAnanA cAhie ki 'kauna khA rahA hai?' 'milA vaha AtmajJAna nahIM hai, bhItara prakaTa huA vaha AtmajJAna hai|' - aisA dAdAzrI kahate haiN| jJAnI kI AjJA kA pAlana kiyA jAe, vahI jJAnI kI kRpA ko khIMca lAtI hai| jahA~ zabda sImita ho jAte haiM, samajha kama par3atI hai, jahA~ koI upamA nahIM, jo svayaM upeya haiM, aise jJAnI kA kyA varNana ho? jo niraMtara AtmA meM rahate haiM, mana meM nahIM, vANI meM nahIM, deha meM nahIM, jahA~ kiMcit mAtra ahaMkAra ko sthAna nahIM hai, jahA~ krodha-mAna-mAyA-lobha kA nirvANa ho gayA hai, namratA to una jJAnI kA sAmAnya guNa hai| jJAnI to niahaMkArI hote haiN| gAlI denevAle ko bhI AzIrvAda dete haiM! jJAnI ni:spaha nahIM hote. vaise hI saspRha bhI nahIM hote, ve to saspRha-nispRha hote haiN| sAmanevAle ke bhautika sukhoM ke lie ni:spRha aura AtmA ke lie saspRha ! 'jJAnI' kI vANI vItarAgatA sahita, rAga-dveSa rahita hotI hai, jisa 24
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________________ vANI ko sune binA kisIko mokSaprApti honA asaMbhava hai! 'jJAnI' kI vANI meM na to koI khaMDana hai na hI nija mata kA maMDana hai ! na to kisIkA virodha hai, na hI kisIko 'galata hai' aisA kahane ko rahatA hai| vaha vANI syAdavAda hai, ki jahA~ na to vAda, na hI vivAda aura na hI saMvAda hai| nimittAdhIna sahajabhAva se pravAhita, vaha hai kAruNya nitharatA, askhalita pAtAlI jharane kA pravAha !!! [10] akrama mArga jahA~ caudaha loka ke nAtha prakaTa hue haiM, vaise 'jJAnI puruSa' arthAt dehadhArI svayaM paramAtmA kI kRpA prApta ho jAe, vahA~ kucha bhI kartApana rahatA nahIM hai, mAtra unakI AjJA meM rahakara, unake pIche-pIche cale jAnA hai| vaise 'jJAnI puruSa' isa kAla meM prakaTa hue haiM, jinakI kRpAprasAdI prApta karake 'akramavijJAna' dvArA, 'akramamArga' se arthAt liphTa meM baiThakara AtmajJAna ke uccatama zikhara ghaMTebhara meM hI pAra ho jAte haiM !!! isa apavAda mArga kI siddhi ati ati adbhuta hai !!! aise kalikAla meM akrama mArga kA bhavya udaya AyA hai ! yaha adhyAtma vijJAna kI apUrva bhUmikA hai! avirodhAbhAsa akhaMDa rUpa se samasta vANI meM vidyamAna hai| anaMta janmoM ke pApoM ko ghaMTebhara meM bhasmIbhUta karake, AtmasAkSAtkAra kI prApti karavAte haiM, jahA~ upAdAna kI jAgRti yA ajAgRti nahIM dekhI jAtI, akrama vijJAnI ke z2abaradasta pAvaraphula nimitta ke suyoga se jAgRti zikhara para birAje, vaisI dazA sAdhakoM ko prApta ho jAtI hai, jahA~ kaSAya saMpUrNarUpa se khatma ho jAte haiM, ahaMkAra-mamatA vilaya ho jAte haiM, jahA~ kucha bhI 'karttApana' nahIM rahatA, kevala Atmasukha ke vedana kA saMvedana karanA hai, vaisI dazA kI prApti karavAnevAle una 'jJAnI' nahIM, 'vijJAnI' kI akrama kI athAha siddhi to dekho !!! [11] AtmA aura ahaMkAra 'maiM caMdUlAla hU~, isa strI kA pati hU~, isa lar3ake kA bApa hU~, maiM biz2anesamena hU~, maiM moTA hU~, maiM gorA huuN|' aisI aneka roMga bilIfoM ke cAdareM 25 or3he hue haiN| khuda kI 'rAiTa bilIfa' para, zuddha darzana aura jJAna para ! 'jJAnI puruSa' usa 'roMga bilIfa' ko 'phrekcara' karake tamAma prakAra ke AvaraNa haTA dete haiM aura samyak darzana kA bhavya dvAra khula jAtA hai! jahA~ 'khuda' nahIM karatA, phira bhI ajJAnatAvaza Aropa karatA hai ki, 'maiMne kiyA', vaha ahaMkAra hai| aura ahaMkAra se karma baMdhate haiM, zarIra banatA hai, mana banatA hai, vANI banatI hai, pudgala mAtra kA sarjana usase hI hotA hai| AtmA paramAtmA kI bheda svarUpa se ArAdhanA karanA vaha laukika dharma hai aura AtmA paramAtmA kI abheda svarUpa se ArAdhanA karanA vaha alaukika dharma hai aura alaukika dharma se mokSa hai! alaukika dharma meM na to puNya hai, na hI pApa hai, vahA~ to kisI cIz2a kA karttApana hI nahIM hai! saMsAra ke sukha bhI jisake lie duHkhoM ke bhAra samAna bana jAe~, vaha mukti kA adhikArI ! use 'jJAnI puruSa' mukti de dete haiN| kyoMki jJAnI to taraNa tAraNahAra hote haiN| [12] vyavasthA 'vyavasthita' kI vizva kA niyaMtraNa svabhAva se hI sahaja rUpa se hotA rahatA hai| use 'akramajJAnI' 'vyavasthita zakti' kahate haiN| vizva ke chaha sanAtana tatvoM para isa 'vyavasthita' zakti kA koI qAbU nahIM hai, sabhI tatva svataMtra haiM, koI kisIko kucha mAnatA nahIM hai, koI kisIkI sunatA nahIM hai, usameM eka cetana tatva, khuda paramAtmA hai, phira bhI !!! sevA ke sAtha samarpaNatA jur3a jAe to sone meM suhAgA ! parantu sevA kA phala puNya milatA hai, mokSa nhiiN| hA~, usameM svarUpajJAna ho, karttApana nahIM ho, to phira vahA~ karma baMdhana nahIM rahatA hai| jagat meM calanevAlA khUnakharAbA, mArAmArI, kATapITa, vizvayuddhoM ke bure pariNAmoM ko 'jJAnI puruSa' 'vyavasthita' hI dekhate haiM! samudra meM bar3I 26
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________________ machalI aura choTI machalI ke bIca calenevAle vinAzoM ko kisane noTa kiyA hai? kyA vaha 'vyavasthita nahIM hai? [13] vyavahAra dharma - svAbhAvika dharma vyavahArika dharma yAnI sukha dekara sukha kI prApti krnii| duHkha deM to du:kha milatA hai| TrAphika ke dharma kA pAlana karake kyA saba jAna ko sahIsalAmata nahIM rakhate? vahA~ adharma kA AcaraNa kare to TakarAkara mara jAe, eksiDenTa karake rakha de! vaise hI sukha kI salAmatI rakhane ke lie sukha ko bA~TanA, vaha rileTiva dharma kA rahasya hai! aura 'riyala' dharma meM to 'vastu-svabhAva' ko prApta karanA hai| 'Atmadharma' ko prApta karanA hai! sarva saMyogoM meM samAdhAna rahe vaha 'riyala' dhrm| samAdhAna-asAmAdhAna rahe vaha 'rileTiva' dhrm| sanAtana sukha ko DhUMDhanevAle jIvoM ko jaba vaha nahIM milatA hai. taba vaha kalpita sukhoM meM kUda par3atA hai, jo pariNAma svarUpa duHkhadAyI hI siddha hone ke kAraNa jIva taraha-taraha kI kalpanAoM meM khokara sukha ke lie bhaTakatA rahatA hai, phira aura bhI adhika ulajhatA jAtA hai! sanAtana sukha to khuda ke bhItara hI hai, AtmA meM hai! saccA sukha pAne ke lie saccA bananA par3egA aura saMsArI sukha prApta karane ke lie saMsArI ! samasaraNa mArga meM praveza prApta karatA hai, taba se hI aMtaradAha kI DorI avirata rUpa se jalatI hI rahatI hai, jisakA aMtaradAha miTa gayA, usakA saMsAra asta ho gayA! mokSa ke lie jJAnI kI zaraNa aura saMsAra meM sukha ke lie mA~bApa aura guru kI sevA, itane sAdhana karane caahie| logoM ke mAne hue sukha ko sukha mAne, vaha lokasaMjJA aura AtmA meM sukha hai aisA mAnanA, vaha jJAnI kI saMjJA / saMta du:kha-bhogI hote haiM, jJAnI AtmabhogI hote haiN| saMta du:kha ko sukha mAnakara calate haiN| pudgala sukha kA AnaMda uThAnA, vaha udhArI vyavahAra hai, rIpe (vApisa cukatA) karanA hI pdd'egaa| beTA 'pApAjI-pApAjI' karake godI meM kUdatA ho taba udhAra kA sukha liyA jAtA hai, para vahI beTA bar3A hokara 'ApameM akkala nahIM hai' kahe ki taba udhArI sukha ko rIpe karanA par3A! isalie pahale se hI kyoM na saceta ho jAe~? pudgala svayaM vItarAga hai, use jaba se 'khuda' grahaNa karatA hai, taba se udhArI vyavahAra zurU hotA hai ! [14] saccI samajha, dharma kI laukika dharma saMsArI sukha detA hai, alaukika dharma sanAtana sukha detA hai| mithyAtva sahita kI tamAma kriyAoM se saMsAra phalita hotA hai| alaukika dharma na to tyAga meM hai, na hI bhoga meN| 'tyAge so aage|' sira para jitane bojha kA vahana ho sake, utanA hI saMgraha karanA caahie| saccA tyAga to ArtadhyAna-raudradhyAna kA tyAga karavAe, vaha ! dharma to vaha kahalAtA hai ki musIbata meM rakSaNa kare! ArtadhyAna, raudradhyAna hote samaya dharma hAz2ira hokara hamArA rakSaNa kare! anaMta janmoM se dharma kie haiM, parantu samaya Ane para yadi hamArI rakSA nahIM ho to ise dharma kiyA kahalAegA hI kaise? ciMtA ho, vahA~ para dharma samajha meM hI nahIM AyA, aisA kahA jAegA! aMtarasukha aura bAhyasukha kA saMtulana hai taba taka vyavahAra meM zAMti rahatI hai| bAhyasukha, aMtarasukha kI qImata para bhogA jAtA hai, usase mAnasika sthiratA kho jAtI hai| isalie hI to nIMda kI goliyA~ khAI jAtI haiN| jahA~ z2arA sA bhI duHkha nahIM, vahA~ AtmA hai| viparIta darzana se duHkha aura samyak darzana se sukha, sukha aura sukha hai| dharma banakara pariNamita ho, vaha dharma hai| koI gAlI de, taba dharma madada ke lie AtA hai| pariNamita ho-vaha dharma, aura nahIM ho-vaha adhrm| jise upAdhi (bAhara se AnevAle daHkha) meM samatA rahe, usake Upara mAno
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________________ mokSa kI muhara laga gii| dharma kA pAlana nahIM karanA hai, dharma ke prati sinsiyara rahanA hai| bhagavAna ke darzana karate samaya sAtha-sAtha cappaloM ke aura dukAna ke bhI darzana kare, vaha dharma ke prati sinsiyara hai, aisA kaise kaha sakate haiM? tamAma prakAra ke duHkhoM se mukti dilavAe, vaha saccA dhrm| jJAna-darzana-cAritra aura tapa, basa yahI eka mokSa kA mArga hai aura koI nhiiN| mUrta ke darzana, anaMta janmoM se kie| bhItara birAje hue amUrta ke ekabAra hI darzana ho jAe~ to anaMta janmoM kA badalA cuka jAe! yaha saba nukasAna kaba pUrA hogA? aura vaha bhI isa divAliyAvAle kalikAla meM? aba to jJAnI kI zaraNa svIkAra karake mukti hI mA~ga lenI hai, tabhI jaldI se hala AegA! _ [15] AcaraNa meM dharma bhagavAna AcaraNa ko mahatva nahIM dete, hetu ko mahatva dete haiN| AcaraNa, vaha 'DiscArja' hai, jaba ki cArja to hetu ke anusAra hotA hai| 'mAnavajanma bekAra nahIM jAe' kA niraMtara ciMtana kisI dina phlegaa| kleza rahita honA, vahI mahAna dharma hai| kleza hai vahA~ dharma nahIM hai aura dharma hai vahA~ kleza nahIM hai| dayA rakhanI, zAMti, samatA rakhanI, ve dharmasUtra isa kAla meM bekAra ho jAte haiN| jo koTi upAyoM se bhI nahIM rakhA jA sakatA, vahA~ para kyA ho? isalie 'jJAnI puruSa' naI hI rAha, naye hI rUpa meM sAmAnyajana se bhI sAdhA jA sake, vaisA mArga batAte haiN| krodha-mAna-mAyA-lobha ho usameM harja nahIM hai, para phira unakA pratikramaNa kre| corI kare to bhI harja nahIM hai, para phira usakA pratikramaNa karanA cAhie, jJAnI kI itanI hI AjJA pAle, use tamAma dharmoM kA sAra mila jaae| jJAnI ko rAjI rakheM, usake jaisA uttama koI dharma nhiiN| jJAnI kI AjJA pAlI jAe, vahA~ jJAnI rAz2I rahate haiN| anya kisI cIz2a se nhiiN| jJAnI kI eka hI AjJA TheTha mokSa taka le jAnevAlI hai! jJAna to khuda hI kriyA ko lAnevAlA hai| 'corI karane meM maz2A hai' kA jJAna phiTa hote hI corI hone lagatI hai| jJAna badale ki phira kriyA badalatI hI hai! jJAna badale binA kriyA lAkha janma meM bhI nahIM badalatI! ajJAna kA jJAna jAnane meM paudgalika zaktiyA~ AsAnI se mila jAtI hai| corI, hiMsA, abrahmacarya meM zaktiyA~ sahaja rUpa se kharca ho jAtI haiN| jaba ki jJAna jAnane meM prArthanA aura puruSArtha cAhie! prArthanA arthAt vizeSa artha kI yaacnaa| vaha khuda ke zuddhAtmA ke pAsa se yA phira jJAnI ke pAsa se mA~ganI caahie| ajJAna dazA meM guru, mUrti yA iSTadevI kI prArthanA hotI hai| hRdayazuddhivAle kI saccI prArthanA avazya phalatI hai| [16] rileTiva dharma : dharma vijJAna niSpakSatA hai, vahA~ vItarAga dharma hai| vItarAga dharma, vaha saiddhAMtika dharma hai| indriyajanya jo-jo hai vaha 'rileTiva' meM AtA hai aura 'riyala' hai. usase hI 'rileTiva' khar3A huA hai! 'rileTiva' avasthA svarUpa hai| 'riyala' tatva svarUpa hai| dharmAdharma AtmA - mUr3hAtmA - rileTiviTI jJAnaghana AtmA - aMtarAtmA - riyAliTI vijJAnaghana AtmA - paramAtmA - ebsolyuutt| ArtadhyAna-raudradhyAna jAe~, vaha dharmasAra hai| jaba ki marma kA sAra yAnI mukti! jagat kA sAra viSayasukha aura dharma kA sAra ArtadhyAnaraudradhyAna se vimukti! aura samayasAra arthAt svAbhAvika pariNati, svapariNati utpanna huii| dharma 'rileTiva' hotA hai aura vijJAna 'riyala' hotA hai| 'vijJAna' avirodhAbhAsavAlA, saiddhAMtika aura svayaM kriyAkArI hotA hai! 30 29
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________________ [17] bhagavAna kA svarUpa, jJAnadRSTi se hama Izvara ke aMza nahIM haiM, Izvara ke Tukar3e nahIM haiN| hama sarvAza haiN| AvaraNa dUra ho jAe~ aura prakaTa hoM, utanI hI dera! bhagavAna kaNa-kaNa meM hoM, to unheM DhUMDhe kahA~? saMDAsa kahA~ jAe~? phira to jar3a-cetana kA bheda hI nahIM rahA na? jIva-mAtra meM bhItara bhagavAna birAjamAna haiN| jisa vastu meM mAlikIbhAva kA AropaNa ho cukA hai, use usase dUra karate hI mAlika ko du:kha hotA hai, use saMkalpI cetana kahA hai| vAstava meM to jahA~ jJAna-darzana hai, vahA~ cetana hai| [18] jJAtApada kI pahacAna ! tIna vastuoM kI mokSamArga meM jarUrata hai : (1) AtmA prApta karane kI tIvra icchaa| (2) 'jJAnI puruSa' prApta karane kI tIvra icchaa| (3) 'jJAnI puruSa' nahIM mileM, to 'jJAnI puruSa' prApta ho, aisI bhAvanA krnaa| - dAdA bhgvaan| isa brahmAMDa ke tamAma jIvoM kA bhagavat svarUpa se darzana karatA hU~ boleM, taba vahA~ tamAma 'rileTiva' dharma samA jAte haiN| sva ko jAnane ke bAda sva kA svAdhyAya hotA hai| 'sva' ko jAne binA jo kucha bhI kiyA jAtA hai, vaha parAdhyAya hai! ___ anAdikAla se jise 'jJAtA' mAnA huA hai, vahI 'jJeya' ho jAtA hai taba nijasvarUpa kA bhAna ho gayA kahalAtA hai! ajJAna se nivRtti kA nAma hI mokssdhrm| ajJAna se nivRtti hone ke bAda vijJAna utpanna hotA hai, usakA nAma mokSa ! [19] yathArtha bhaktimArga! jaba taka bhItara birAjamAna bhagavAna ke pratyakSa darzana nahIM hote taba taka mUrti ke sammukha parokSa prArthanA bhI pratyakSa kI ora jAtI hai| usake lie isa prakAra se saba jagaha darzana krnaa| "he vItarAga bhagavAna! Apa mere bhItara hI baiThe haiM, para mujhe usakI pahacAna nahIM hai isalie Apake darzana kara rahA huuN| mujhe yaha 'jJAnI puruSa' ne sikhalAyA hai, isalie usa anusAra Apake darzana kara rahA huuN| to Apa mujhe mere 'khuda' kI pahacAna ho vaisI kRpA kiijie|" - dAdA bhgvaan| pA~ca indriyoM se IzvaraprApti ke lie jo kucha bhI hotA hai vaha bhakti hai| pratyakSa bhakti se bhagavAna milate haiN| parokSa bhakti se dhIre-dhIre urvIkaraNa hotA rahatA hai| pratyakSa bhakti arthAt ki jahA~ bhagavAna prakaTa ho gae haiM, unakI bhkti| usase mokSa milatA hai| bhakti kI sUkSmatA ke bheda haiN| nAmajApa se sthUla bhakti, sthApanA se sUkSma, dravya se sUkSmatara aura bhAva se sUkSmatama bhakti hai| bhaktimArga se mokSa hai yA jJAnamArga se? jJAnamArga kI eka paTarI DAlI jAe usake samAnAMtara bhaktimArga kI dUsarI paTarI DAlI jAe, taba hI yaha gAr3I mokSa ke sTezana taka phuNcegii| jitanA jJAna mile, utanI bhakti svayaM prakaTa hotI hai| binA svarUpajJAna kI bhakti se saMsAra phala milatA hai. aura donoM sAtha meM hoM, taba mokSa A milatA hai! buddhi kA praveza hai vahA~ aparAbhakti hai aura mAtra jJAna ke sAtha bhakti - vaha parAbhakti, jo mokSa meM phalita hotI hai| parAbhakti kA AvirbhAva, vaha isa akrama mArga kI anamola dena hai! [20] guru aura jJAnI' ekabAra guru kA maMDana karane ke bAda cAhe jaise, sannipAta ke saMyoga dikheM to bhI guru kA khaMDana nahIM krte| niMdA to kyA. ulTA vicAra taka bhI guru ke lie nahIM krte| bhayaMkara virAdhanA kahalAtI hai| vaha TheTha narka meM bhI le jA sakatI hai! saMsAra meM zubha-azubha sikhalAe~, ve guru aura zubhAzubha chur3avAkara
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________________ [21] tapazcaryA kA hetu japa, tapa, vrata kI z2arUrata kitanI? DragisTa (davAIvAlA) ke vahA~ kI sArI hI davAIyA~ apane kAma AtI haiM? jise jo mAphika AtI hai vahI lI jAtI hai| hameM mAphika Ae vaha davA saccI, parantu usake kAraNa dUsarI davAIyoM ko galata nahIM kaha skte| unake lie dUsare marIz2a hote haiN| japa-tapa Adi zubhakarma bA~dhate haiN| khIMcatAna karake, jAna-bUjhakara tapa karane kA yaha kAla nahIM hai| isa kAla meM to apane Apa hI Ae hue tapa samatApUrvaka karane haiN| rAzana, kerosIna, cInI, dUdha kI kamI meM hAya-hAya karate hue, rAta-dina tapate hue ina hat puNyazAliyoM ko bhalA dUsare aura adhika tapoM meM kisalie tapanA zuddha meM baiThA deM, ve jnyaanii| guru kI z2arUrata kitanI? guru ke binA to bArahakhar3I bhI nahIM par3hI jA sakatI, to guru ke binA bhagavAna kI ArAdhanA kaise ho? sTezana jAne ke lie bhI guru kI jarUrata hai| paga-paga para guru kI jarUrata hai| aura mokSa ke lie to eka mAtra 'jJAnI' kI jarUrata pdd'egii| jahA~ kucha bhI 'karttApana' nahIM rahatA, vaha 'jJAnI' kI kRpaa| mukti dilavAe~, ve 'jJAnI'! __'relve ke poinTamena' kI taraha sahI paTarI para car3hAe~, ve sacce laukika guru, aura poinTa badala deM, ve Aja ke laukika guru! guru arthAt bhaarii| khuda DUbeM aura baiThanevAloM ko bhI Dubo deN| gurukillI sahita guru hoM to ve DUbane nahIM dete| 'pUre jagat kA maiM ziSya hU~' - vaha gurukillI ! 'yaha merA ziSya hai' aisA eka kSaNa bhI jise bhAna nahIM barate, use ziSya banAne kA adhikAra hai| ekabAra hRdaya meM gurupada para sthApita karane ke bAda garu kA cAhe kaisA bhI viparIta vartana, vANI yA sannipAta ke, pAgalapana ke udayoM meM bhI khaMDana nahIM kare, vaha saccA shissy| guru ke prati aTUTa sinsiyAriTI hI mokSa meM le jAtI hai! maMDana karane ke bAda khaMDana karanA bhayaMkara jokhima hai| guru, vaha pA~cavI ghAta hai| ulTA nahIM dekhte| nahIM to garu banAnA hI nahIM, ArAdhanA nahIM ho usakA harja nahIM hai, para virAdhanA to nahIM hI honI caahie| isa kAla ke jIva pUrvavirAdhaka haiN| guru kI kamiyA~, niMdA kie binA sIdhe nahIM baiThe rahate! hai?! 'jJAnI' ko tyAgAtyAga nahIM hote haiN| ve to jo Ae usakA nikAla kara dete haiM! bhagavAna ne vastu ke tyAga ko tyAga nahIM kahA hai, vastu kI mUrchA ke tyAga ko tyAga kahA hai! bhagavAna to mUla ko hI dekhate haiM na!!! pUjya dAdAzrI kI AjJAnusAra eka gyArasa jIvana meM ho jAe usakA kalyANa nizcita hai| pA~ca indriyA~, pA~ca karmendriyA~ aura gyArahavA~ mana, nirAhArI rakhe vaha saccI gyaars| upavAsa se tana kI, mana kI aura vANI kI zuddhi hotI hai, yadi upayogapUrvaka huA ho to! AyaMbila - eka hI dhAna kA AhAra / mAtra usakI limiTa kA paddhatipUrvaka pAlana kiyA jA sake, aisA viveka honA caahie| ajIrNa ke marIja ko ajIrNa miTe taba taka upavAsa karanA hitakArI hai| bAqI japa-tapa aura upavAsa ke sAdhanoM dvArA AtmA mile aisA nahIM hai| guru banAte nahIM, guru bana jAte haiN| jina para naz2ara par3ate hI dila ko ThaMDaka ho jAe, ve hRdaya meM gurupada para sthApita hote haiN| bAqI, guru kI parIkSA karane ke bAda sthApana karane kA jauharIpana kisane khuda meM vikasita kiyA hai? saMsAra meM zubhamArga para le jAe~, ve guru aura rokar3a mokSa kI parakha karavA deM, ve 'jJAnI'! uNodarI ke samAna dUsarA koI tapa nhiiN| pUjya dAdAzrI ne jIvana meM sempala jitanA bhI upavAsa nahIM kiyaa| hA~, pUrI z2indagI uNodarI tapa kiyA thaa| lAkha upavAsa karane se bhI kaSAya nahIM gae to vaise upavAsa kA 34
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________________ sabase sarala koI cIz2a ho to mokSamArga! baila kheta meM se ghara saralatA se jAtA hai aura kheta meM khIMcakara z2abaradastI le jAnA par3atA hai| mokSa to khuda kA hI ghara hai| saMsAra jutAI kiyA jAnevAlA kheta hai| vahA~ para hI bhayaMkara kaSTa, vighna aura vikalpa haiN| khuda ke ghara meM nirvikalpa dazA hai, paramAnaMda hai, akriyatA hai! 'AtmA' niraMtara mukta hI hai, kabhI bhI baMdhA hI nhiiN| bhrAMti se baMdhana bhAsita hotA hai| jJAnI' kRpA se bhrAMti khatma hote hI muktatA kA bhAna hotA hai! kyA phala? upavAsa aura kaSAya sAtha meM raheM, vaha bhayaMkara nukasAna karavAtA hai| do baje taka bhojana nahIM mile taba mana se kaha denA ki Aja upavAsa hai aura vahA~ samatA meM rahe usake jaisA eka bhI upavAsa nahIM hai! [22] laukika dharma dharma meM sUkSma icchAoM kA bhI vAsa rahA ho vaha dharma, dharma nahIM hai, vyApAra hai!!! 'rileTiva' meM kamAe, vaha 'riyala' meM luTa jAtA hai| dharma meM lUTabAjI nahIM cltii| usake jokhima to kalpanA se bAhara hai| sAdhanA ke siddhAMta samajhe binA to sAdhaka kyA sAdhanA kare? mokSa aura pakSa donoM virodhAbhAsI haiN| vItarAga vANI ke sivAya aura koI upAya nahIM hai| pratyakSa jJAnI ke binA mokSa saMbhava nahIM hai| [23] mokSa prApta karanA, dhyeya siddha dazA arthAt paramAtmasvarUpa kI sthiti| vahA~ karane ko kucha bhI nahIM hai| jJAtA-dRSTA aura paramAnaMda, vaha unakI svAbhAvika dazA! vahA~ siddhagati ke anaMta sukha kA niraMtara vedana karanA hotA hai| mokSa arthAt mukta bhaav| pahale saMsArI duHkhoM se mukti phira sarva karmoM se mukti| jo muktapuruSa hoM, unake pAsa se mukti milatI hai| jahA~ kisI bhI prakAra kI bhIkha nahIM, lakSmI, kIrti, viSaya, ziSya, maMdira, mAna kI, vahA~ jagat kI tamAma sattA jhukatI haiM! samajha binA bhUla kI ho jAe taba mokSa hotA hai| deha meM Atmabuddhi, vaha saMsAra aura AtmA meM Atmabuddhi vaha mokss| mokSa, vaha jAne kI, prApta karane kI, yA koI sthiti nahIM hai| vaha to khuda kA svabhAva hI hai| khuda mokSa svarUpa hI hai, mAtra usakA bhAna bhUlA huA hai| 'jJAnI puruSa' khuda ke svarUpa kA svabhAva kA bhAna karavAte haiN| vahA~ se mokSa kA anubhava zurU hotA hai! [24] mokSamArga kI pratIti! mokSa prApta karane kA: dharma kauna-sA? : Atmadharma! veza kauna-sA? : cAhe jo! kauna-se sthAnaka meM? : vItarAga sthAnaka meM! kauna-sI dazA meM? : vItarAga dazA meM! kauna-se saMpradAya meM? : niSpakSa hai, vahA~! sadguru kI pahacAna kyA? : nizadina AtmA kA upayoga, apUrva, bejor3a phira bhI anubhavagamya vANI ! pratIti kyA? : vahA~ AtmA sthira ho| lakSaNa kyA? : kaSAya rahita prinnaam| isa kAla meM asti kahA~? :: saMpUjya zrI dAdAzrI! prApti kisa taraha? : parama vinaya se| samyakatva kI prApti kahA~ se? : kaSAya rahita sadguru se| dharma kisa taraha hotA hai? : kaSAya rahita sadguru se| dharma kA sAdhana kyA? : upAdAna kI jaagRti| dharma kise kaheM? : kaSAyoM kA kama honA, vh| mokSa kA sarala upAya? : kaSAya rahita 'jJAnI' kI sevaa| 35 36
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________________ Atmastha hone ke kAraNa 'jJAnI' ko jagat vismRta rahatA hai, para darzana meM unheM sabakucha hI dikhatA hai| smRti, vaha paudgalika zakti hai| darzana, vaha AtmA kI zakti hai| kauna-se sAdhana se mokSa? : AtmajJAna se| mokSamArga meM vyavahAra bAdhakarUpa hai? : nahIM, bAdhA hai ajJAna kii| mokSa mArga meM zAsana deva-devIyoM : hA~, mArga meM koI ar3acana nahIM Ae kI ArAdhanA kI z2arUrata hai? usake lie| jainoM kI cautha saccI yA pA~cama? : jo anakala Ae vaha sccii| jisase dharma ho vaha saccI, aura adharma ho vaha khottii| jaina kise kahA jAtA hai? : jisane 'jina' kI yA jinezvara kI vANI sunI ho, vh| sunakara, zraddhA rakhakara usakA saMpUrNa pAlana kare, vaha sAdhu aura aMzataH pAlana kare, vaha zrAvaka! [25] Ai enDa mAi separeTa Ai (maiM) enDa mAi (merA) vitha jJAnIs seprettr| Ai ija immorttl| mAi ija morttl| (Ai aura mAi ko jJAnI ke upakaraNa se alaga kreN| Ai zAzvata hai aura mAi nAzavaMta hai|)- dAdA bhagavAna yAda Ae, vaha prigrh| phira bhI jJAnI yAda Ae~, usa rAga ko prazasta rAga kahA hai| jo rAga saMsAra kI mamatA ur3Akara jJAnI meM rakha de, to vaha rAga hI mokSa kA kAraNa hai| ____ phUla car3hAe usa para rAga nahIM aura gAliyA~ de usa para dveSa nahIM vaha samatA hai| samatAbhAva bhulAve meM DAla sakatA hai, jaba ki jJAtA-dRSTAbhAva meM jAgRti satata rahatI hai| saMsAra meM saMtoSa hotA hai, para tRpti nahIM hotii| saMtoSa se to naye bIja Dalate haiM! [27] nikhAlisa AtmajJAna vahA~ kharI nikhAlisatA hai| zAstra par3hane kI jarUrata nahIM hai| nikhAlisa honA hai| nikhAlisa arthAt pyora! asAmAnya manuSya yAnI jo jIva-mAtra ke lie sahAyaka bana jAe! khuda prakRti se para baneM, saccI Az2AdI prApta kareM, vaha ! [28] mukta hAsya mukta hAsya saMpUrNa mukta puruSa ke mukhAraviMda kI niraMtara zobhA hai ! bhItara ke taraha-taraha ke Agraha, doSa, eTikeTa (ziSTAcAra) ke bhUta hAsya ko tanAvavAlA rakhate haiM / saralatA, nirdoSatA, utanA hI hAsya mukta! vItarAgatA vahA~ saMpUrNa mukta hAsya! [29] ciMtA : samatA ciMtA to cAra pairoM kI gati kA citraNa karatI hai! khudA ko chUkara baiThe hue 'jJAnI' aura una 'jJAnI' ke naz2adIka baiThe, vaha jahA~-jahA~ 'mAi' kI jakar3ana hai use eka tarapha haTAyA jAe to aMta meM ebsolyUTa 'Ai' milatA hai| 'Ai', vaha bhagavAna aura 'mAi', vaha maayaa| - dAdA bhagavAna / jJAnI 'AI' enDa 'mAi' ke bIca meM bhedarekhA DAla dete haiN| [26] smRti -rAga-dveSAdhIna smRti rAga-dveSa ke adhIna hai| jisa-jisa meM rAga yA phira dveSa hai, usakI yAda satAtI hai| jinheM AtmA ke sivAya kucha bhI yAda nahIM Ae, ve viitraag| niraMtara 37 38
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________________ khudA ke kitane naz2adIka gayA!!! vahA~ nIrava zAMti kI anubhUti ke sivAya anya kyA ho sakatA hai? [30] saMyama pariNAma bAhya saMyama ko bhagavAna ne saMyama nahIM kahA hai, parantu para-pariNati utpanna nahIM ho vaha saMpUrNa saMyama kahalAtA hai| krodha-mAna-mAyA-lobha ke saMyama ko saMyama pariNAma kahA jAtA hai| saMyama se hI Atmazakti prakaTa hotI hai| [31] icchA pUrti kA niyama mana kA svabhAva nita nayA-nayA DhUMDhane kA hai| bhItara taraha-taraha kI icchAe~ hotI rahatI haiN| vahA~ kudarata use kahatI hai ki terI sabhI arjiyA~ svIkAra hoMgI, para hamArI suvidhA anusAra! icchA ho aura vastu mile, vaha adhogati meM le jAtA hai aura icchA ho, phira bhI vastu kA ThikAnA nahIM par3e, vaha Urdhvagati meM le jAtA hai| [32] TI.vI kI AdateM manuSya deha bahuta muzkila se milI hai| parantu jisakI jaisI samajha ho, vaisA usakA upayoga karatA hai| kRSNa bhagavAna gItA meM yahI kaha gae haiM ki manuSya anartha TAima bigAr3a rahe haiN| samajha ke abhAva ke kAraNa manuSyatva china jAtA hai aura sArA TAima vyartha calA jAtA hai| [33] lobha kI aTakaNa khuda ke pAsa sabakucha hI hai, phira bhI DhUMDhe, vaha lobhii| 'vyavasthita meM jo ho vaha bhale ho|' kahane se lobha kI gA~Tha TUTane lagatI hai| [34] lagAma chor3a do eka kSaNa bhI pA~ca indriyarUpI ghor3oM kI lagAma chUTatI nahIM hai, aura DhalAna Ae vahA~ khIMcane ke badale DhIlI rakhatA hai aura car3hAI para DhIlI rakhanI hai vahA~ khIMcatA hai| isalie 'jJAnI puruSa' lagAma 'vyavasthita' ko sauMpakara 'dekhate' rahane kA prayoga karanA sikhAte haiN| saptAha meM ravivAra ko yaha prayoga karane se vyavasthita' yathArtha rUpa se samajha meM Ane lagatA hai, AcaraNa kyA ho rahA hai, vANI se rikaoNrDa kaisI baja rahI hai, use aura mana ko 'khuda' dekhate rahanA hai| jitane aMza se mana, vANI aura kAyA ko judA dekhA, utane aMza taka kevalajJAna upajatA hai| mana-vacana-kAyA kI kriyA ko haTAnI yA badalanI nahIM hai, use mAtra dekhanA hI hai! DiscArja ko kisa prakAra badalA jA sakatA hai? jaba khuda apane hI pudgala pariNAmoM ko dekhatA rahe, taba kevalajJAna sattA meM hotA hai ! kyA hotA hai, use dekhate rhnaa|' vaha jJAniyoM kI aMtima dazA kA saMyama hai! [35] karma kI thiyarI samAdhAna vahA~ dharma, asamAdhAna vahA~ adhrm| karma kyA hai? Apa jJAnI haiM, to karma Apake nahIM haiM, ajJAnI haiM, to karma Apake haiM, karttAbhAva se karma baMdhate haiN| maiMne kiyA' usa Aropita bhAva se karma baMdhate haiN| maiM caMdalAla hU~' vahI karma hai| AtmA karma kA karttA nahIM hai| bhrAMti se vaisA bhAsita hotA hai, bhrAMti haTI kI karma kA karttA nahIM aura karma bhI nhiiN| karma kauna karatA hai? pudgala yA AtmA? donoM meM se koI bhI nahIM, ahaMkAra hI karma karatA hai| AtmA vyavahAra se kartA hai aura nizcaya se akartA hai| AtmA svabhAvakarma kA kartA hai| para roMga bilIfa se 'maiM caMdUlAla hU~' aisA mAnatA hai aura karma baMdhate haiN| AtmA kI hAjirI se ahaMkAra khar3A hotA hai aura usameM kartAbhAva khar3A hotA hai aura usa bhAva ke anusAra pudgala sakriya bana jAtA hai! ahaMkAra gayA ki sabakucha ho gayA khatma!!!'jJAnI puruSa' khuda ke svarUpa kA bhAna karavA deM, usake bAda karma baMdhate hI nhiiN| anaMta janmoM ke karma arthAt sabhI janmoM ke karmoM kA jor3a nahIM, parantu sAra rUpa ke karma haiM! zubha karma bhogate samaya miThAsa AtI hai aura azubha bhogate hue kar3avAhaTa! sthUla karma, yAnI ki pA~ca indriyoM se anubhava meM AnevAle karmoM ke 40
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________________ kriyA hotI hai-vaha adhika jimmedAra hai, jabaki dUsare meM sirpha hA~ jI, hA~ jI hotA hai| vaha nahIM ho to bhI honevAlI kriyA meM koI pharka nahIM pdd'taa| usakI jimmedArI itanI nahIM hotii| dharma meM ulTI anumodanA bhayaMkara doSa bA~dha detI phala yahIM ke yahIM bhoga lie jAte haiM aura sUkSmakarma jo dikhate nahIM, mAlika ko bhI patA nahIM calatA, una karmoM kA phala agale janma meM bhogA jAtA hai| dAna dete haiM, vaha sthUla krm| usakA phala nAma, kIrti, vAha-vAha ke rUpa meM loga turanta deMge hI, parantu dAna dete samaya bhItara jo rahatA hai bhAva, jaise ki, isa meyara ke dabAva ke kAraNa denA par3A, nahIM to nahIM detA, yA phira mere pAsa adhika hotA to adhika detA, aise bhAva kI vartanA hI agale bhava meM phalita hotI hai| sthUla kriyA ke pIche rahA abhiprAya hI sUkSmakarma 'cArja' karatA hai| sthUla karma DiscArja svarUpa meM hai, isalie usakI svAbhAvika kriyA hotI hai, koI kartA nahIM aura sUkSma karma kA kartA ahaMkAra hai| maiMne kiyA' vaha bhAva hI karma bA~dhatA hai, akramavijJAna kahatA hai| karma' se nahIM kintu 'vyavasthita zakti se ApakA calatA hai| karma to bhItara par3A huA hI hai, parantu use rUpaka meM lAnevAlA 'sAinTiphika sarakamasTenziyala eviDensa' hai, karma to 'vyavasthita' kA eka aMza hai! AtmA kI caitanya zakti aisI hai ki roMga bilIfa se vikalpa hotA hai ki yaha maiM hU~, turanta sakriya svabhAva se paramANu vahA~ para hI 'cArja' hokara AtmA se lipaTa jAte haiM, jinheM karma kahate haiN| pahA [36] bhAva, bhAvya aura bhAvaka bhItara bhAvaka haiM ve bhAva karavAte haiM, AtmA nhiiN| aMdara bhAvakakrodhaka-lobhaka-niMdaka aura cetaka bhI haiN| bhAvaka bhAva karavAe~ taba AtmA bhAvya ho jAtA hai, nija svarUpa kA bhAna bhUlA hai isalie hI to na! bhAvya bhAvaka ke sAtha eka ho jAe, vahA~ yoni meM bIja par3atA hai| bhAvya bhAvaka meM ekAkAra hue binA judA rahakara 'dekhatA' rahe to baMdhana nahIM hai| itanA hI AtmavijJAna samajhane kI jarUrata hai| bhAvaka-ve na to vedanIya haiM, na hI vikalpa, na hI vaha aMta:karaNa kA koI bhAga hai| aMta:karaNa bhI bhAvakoM ke batAe anusAra calatA hai| bhAvaka bhAva karavAe~, taba AtmA murchita ho jAtA hai| pratyeka kSaNa palaTe vaha AtmA ho hI nahIM sakatA, ve bhAvaka haiN| prameya ke anusAra pramAtA hotA hai| samRddhi aura saMsArabhAva bar3he, vaise usakA prameya bar3hatA hai| vaise hI pramAtA bhI bar3hatA hai| vAstava meM pramAtA vaha kahalAtA hai ki AtmA pUre brahmAMDa meM prakAzamAna ho jaae| prameya pUrA brahmAMDa hai, jahA~ loka hai vahA~ pr| [37] kriyAzakti : bhAvazakti bhAvazakti hI khuda ke hAtha meM hai, kriyAzakti nhiiN| usameM bhI mokSa meM jAne ke bhAva ke alAvA anya koI bhAva karane jaise nahIM haiN| jo bhAva hote haiM ve necara meM jamA ho jAte haiN| necara phira unheM dUsare sabhI saMyoga milavAkara kArya ko rUpaka meM lAne meM sahAyatA karatA hai| bhAva aisI sUkSma vastu hai ki jise koI dekha hI nahIM sakatA, jJAnI ke alAvA! bhAva se yojanA gar3hI jAtI hai aura dUsare janma meM phalita hotI hai| pIche haTe binA mana-vacana-kAyA kI pUrI ekatA se jo kiyA jAtA hai, usase bhayaMkara gAr3ha karma baMdhate haiM, jinase chUTanA bahuta muzkila hotA hai, asaMkhya bAra ho cukI AlocanA, pratikramaNa, pratyAkhyAna se hI chUTA jA sakatA hai| 'maiM caMdUlAla hU~' mAnakara jo-jo kiyA jAtA hai, phira niSkAma karane jAe to bhI karma, zubhakarma to baMdhate hI haiN| niSkAma karma meM khada akartA nahIM banatA, jaba taka'khuda kauna hai vaha nakkI nahIM ho, taba taka kisa prakAra se ho sakatA hai? krodha-mAna-mAyA-lobha kI upasthiti aura niSkAma karma donoM eka sAtha kisa prakAra ho sakate haiM? 'maiM niSkAma karma karatA ha~' vaha mAnyatA jAe kisa taraha? niSkAma arthAt pariNAma kI dhAraNA ke binA karate jAnA vaha, itanA kauna kara sakatA hai? anumodanA do prakAra kI haiM - eka meM anumodanA ke AdhAra para hI 41
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________________ icchA, vaha pariNAma hai| bhAva, vaha kAraNa hai| isa jagat kI koI bhI vinAzI cIz2a mujhe khapatI nahIM', aisA nizcaya hone se bhAvoM ko 'sIla' (pakkA baMda karanA) laga jAtI hai| svarUpajJAna hone ke bAda icchAe~ iphekTa ke rUpa meM hI hotI haiN| vicAra aura bhAva meM bahuta aMtara hai| sirpha bhAva hI, jJAna ke binA pakar3A hI nahIM jA sktaa| vicAra iphekTa haiM, bhAva kaoNja hai| bhAva ko dravya meM pariNamita hone meM bahuta-bahuta samaya calA jAtA hai| bhAva kampyUTara meM jAtA hai, use paripakva hone ke lie dUsare sAre saMyoga milane caahie| jagat ko pratipakSI bhAva hue binA rahate hI nahIM, isane mujhe aisA kyoM kahA?' vaisA pratipakSI bhAva, parAkrama bhAva meM Ae hue ko to aisA dikhatA hai ki yaha mere hI karma kA udaya hai! sirpha mana hI nahIM, parantu pUrA aMta:karaNa bigar3e taba pratipakSI bhAva hotA hai| mana bigar3e vahA~ para pratikramaNa kare, taba vaha sudhara jAtA hai| jJAnI kI A~khoM meM kisI bhI prakAra kA bhAva nahIM dikhtaa| pratipakSI bhAva hI kyA, para kisI bhI prakAra kA bhAva jahA~ nahIM hai, unake darzana karane se hI samAdhi ho jAtI hai! bhAva kA phorma bharA huA ho tabhI vahA~ dUsare sAre eviDensisa ikaTThe hote haiM aura phala AtA hai| jise vivAha nahIM karanA ho, vaha vivAha nahIM karane ke bhAva meM dRr3ha rahe to use vaise eviDensa mila Ate haiN| parantu bIja nahIM DAlA ho, vahA~ cAhe jitanI barasAta par3e to bhI vaha kisa prakAra uge? sar3A huA bIja nahIM ugatA, vaise hI DagamagAtA huA bhAva rUpaka meM Ae binA naSTa ho jAtA hai| svarUpajJAna kI prApti ke bAda bhAvakarma hI ur3a jAtA hai| phira bhUtabhAva rahate haiN| bhAvi bhAva hone baMda ho jAte haiM aura vartamAna meM to svabhAvabhAva meM hI hotA hai! kevala bhAvasattA hI hone ke kAraNa usase honevAle bhAva necara meM jAte haiM, jise kudarata pudgala mizrita banAkara rUpaka meM lAtI hai| isameM AtmA kI koI sakriyatA nahIM hai|' vyavasthita' hI sabakucha 'eDajasTa' kara detA hai| brahmacarya ke bhAva hote-hote bhAvasvarUpa ho jAe to AnevAle bhava meM suMdara brahmacarya udaya meM AtA hai! 'jagat kA kalyANa kisa taraha se ho' aise bhAva hote-hote bhAvasvarUpa meM vaisA bhAvAtmA ho jAtA hai| pahale bhAvAtmA tIrthakara hotA hai| phira dravyAtmA tIrthakara hotA hai| vikalpa bhAva ko janma detA hai! bhItara paramANuoM kI jo DimAnDa hotI hai, usa anusAra 'vyavasthita' saba ikaTThA karake DimAnDa pUrI karatA hai| laTU meM DorI lapeTate haiM-ve bhAva haiM aura khulatI jAtI hai-vaha dravya hai| zuddhAtmA ko bhAva hI nahIM hotA, para pratiSThita AtmA bhAva karatA hai| bhAva dRr3ha ho, vaha rUpaka meM AtA hai| kramika meM dravya ko tor3ate rahanA hai| akrama meM dravya, bhAva donoM ko eka tarapha rakha diyA jAtA hai, phira vahA~ kevala zuddhAtmA pada kI sthiti rahatI hai| bhAvamana bhrAMti se utpanna hotA hai aura dravyamana phiz2ikala (sthUla) hai| pichale janma kA bhAvakarma isa janma meM dravyakarma hai ki jo AvaraNa svarUpa hotA hai, vaha ATha karma ke cakSu lAtA hai aura unake mAdhyama se dekhane se vaise hI naye bhAva utpanna hote haiN| jinheM padagala paramANa pakar3a lete haiM, phira vaisA dravya pariNAma meM AtA hai| paramANu pakar3e jAte haiM, vahA~ prayogazA hote haiN| jo phira mizrasA ke rUpa meM bhItara par3e rahate haiM, ve kar3ave-mIThe phala dekara vApisa cale jAte haiM, vApisa TheTha mUla zuddha vizrasA avasthA meM ! parantu usa phala ke samaya vApisa khuda tanmayAkAra ho jAe to naye prayogazA hokara vaha sAikila (cakra) calatI hI rahatI hai| AtmabhAva meM A jAe. phira tanmayAkAra hone kA nahIM rahane se'cArja' hone kA prayoga ruka jAtA hai| khuda se galata ho jAe aura mana meM rahA kare ki yaha galata huA, galata huA vaha prtibhaav| jJAnI ko pratibhAva nahIM hote| 44 ajJAnadazA meM bhAvAtmA hai aura jJAnadazA meM jnyaanaatmaa| bhAvAtmA ke pAsa 43
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________________ [38] 'sva' meM hI svasthatA avasthA meM ekAkAra huA ki ho gayA asvsth| 'sva' meM mukAma vahA~ svasthA [39] jJAna kA svarUpa : kAla kA svarUpa prArabdha se hara eka vyakti baMdhA huA to hotA hI hai| isalie hI to janma hotA hai| jJAna ke bAda naye agale janma kA prArabdha nahIM baMdhatA, vaisA akramavijJAna hai| jJAnI puruSa niraMtara vartamAna meM hI rahate haiM ! isalie 'kAla ko vaza kiyA' kahA jAtA hai! [40] vANI kA svarUpa jo bolatA hai vaha TeparikaoNrDara bolatA hai, khuda nahIM bolatA aura ahaMkAra karatA hai ki maiM bolA! AtmA meM bolane kA guNa hI nahIM hai| vaise hI pudgala kA bhI guNa nahIM hai| zabda to pudagala paryAya hai| paramANa ragar3a khAkara bAje meM se nikaleM taba AvAz2a hotI hai, usake jaisA hai yaha! jJAnI kI vANI bhI TeparikaoNrDa hai, cetana nahIM hai| parantu cetana ko sparza karake nikalatI hai ! jJAnI kI vANI syAdavAda arthAt kisIkA kiMcit mAtra pramANa nahIM dubhe (Ahata ho) vaisI hotI hai| vaha vANI saMpUrNa jAgRtipUrvaka nikalatI hai aura vaha sAmanevAle ke hita ke lie hI hotI hai| saMsArabhAva vahA~ hotA hI nhiiN| jJAnI kI vANI ullAsapUrvaka sunatA rahe to khada kI vaisI hI vANI ho jAtI hai| sarva karmoM kA kSaya ho, kaSAya nirmala ho jAe~. parA vItarAga vijJAna hAz2ira ho jAe, AtmA kA spaSTa anubhava ho jAe. ahaMkAra kI bhUmikA kA aMta Ae, jagat pUrA nirdoSa dikhe, taba syAdavAda vANI kA bhavya udaya hotA hai! taba taka use buddhi kI, vyavahAra kI bAta mAnI jAtI hai| taba taka mokSamArga meM upadeza denA bhayaMkara jokhima mAnA jAtA hai| jahA~ vAda nahIM, vivAda nahIM, saMvAda nahIM, jahA~ mAtra syAdavAda hai, unake dvArA hI upadeza diyA jA sakatA hai| sat ko samajhane meM saMvAda-vivAda nahIM hote| khuda kA satya hai isalie sAmanevAle ko mAnanA cAhie, vaha bhAva bhI bhayaMkara roga hai ! saccI bAta sAmanevAlA kabUla karatA hI hai aura nahIM kare to hameM chor3a denA caahie| bhUla rahita vANI to tabhI nikalatI hai ki jaba vANI ke Upara kA mAlikIbhAva zunyatA ko prApta kare! 'maiM kitanA acchA bolA' vaha bhAva AyA. vahA~ vANI kA mAlikIbhAva rahA huA hotA hI hai| vANI se sva-bacAva karanA - vaha dharmacarcA kA eka tarIkA hai, kaSAya rahita bhUmikA meM rahakara sAmanevAle ko kanvinsa kare, use badale- vaha dUsarA tarIkA hai, aura sAmanevAle ko badalate-badalate khuda hI usase mur3a jAe - vaha tIsarA tarIkA! jahA~ vItarAga cAritra kI vartanA (AcaraNa) hai, vaise jJAnI kI mIThI, madhura, syAdavAda vANI kisIko AghAta-pratyAghAta nahIM krtii| saMpUrNa Agraha rahita vANI hI sAmanevAle ke hRdaya ko sparza karatI hai aura taba logoM kA kalyANa hotA hai ! aisI vANI bejor3a hotI hai| jJAnI kI gaz2aba kI siddhi hotI hai| hama bhI usa bhAva se 'aisI vANI ho' kI prArthanA kareM to vaha prApta hotI hai| vacanabala to use kahA jAtA hai ki jisa vacana ke anusAra hI sabhI ullAsapUrvaka AcaraNa kareM! vANI kA durupayoga, jhUTha, sAmanevAle ko DarAyA, jhUTha ke sahAre sva-bacAva, durAgraha kie hoM, usase vacanabala TUTa jAtA hai| sAmanevAle ke hRdaya ko ghAva lagAnevAlI vANI agale janma meM usake phala svarUpa baMda ho jAtI hai| kisIko jarA bhI duHkha nahIM denA hai aura vacanabala prApta ho' jJAnI se aisI mA~ga karate rahane se vaha milatA hai| bolane kI jagaha ho, vahA~ para mauna rahe vaha mauna tpobl| mauna kA mahatva nahIM hai. mauna ke sAtha tapobala caahie| jJAniyoM ke mauna tapobala hote haiM, jo pare jagat kA kalyANa karanevAle hote haiN| mukha para bhAvAbhAva kI rekhA nahIM dikhe taba samajhanA ki
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________________ vANI kA mAlikIpana gayA, vahA~ saMpUrNa muktadazA, hotI hai| ahaMkAra ke binA vANI nikalatI hI nahIM, vANI khulA ahaMkAra hai| sirpha 'jJAnI puruSa' kI syAdavAda vANI ke samaya hI ahaMkAra nahIM hotA, usake sivAya aura kucha bhI boleM, to vaha unakA ahaMkAra hI hai, para use 'DiscArja' ahaMkAra kahA jAtA hai| vANI kA parigraha 'maiM kaisA bolA' vaha aura 'maiM bola rahA hU~', taba phira karmabIja pdd'aa| isa taraha saMsAra meM vANI bhaTakAtI bhI hai aura vItarAga vANI saMsArasAgara pAra bhI karavAtI hai! yaha TeparikaoNrDa kisa taraha 'Tepa' hotA hai? ahaMkAra kI preraNA se pahale bhItara vANI kA koDavarDa hotA hai| korDavarDa meM se zorTahenDa hotA hai, usake bAda jaba bajatA hai taba yaha sunAI detA hai, vaha 'phula DiTela' meM nikalatI hai islie| mukha para se bhAvAbhAva kI rekhA nahIM dikhe taba samajhanA ki vANI kA apane bhAva ke anusAra 'Tepa' hotA hai| bhAva meM to sirpha isakA apamAna karanA hai, itanA hI hotA hai, phira saMyoga hoM, taba ghaMToM taka gAliyA~ detI huI vANI apane Apa hI nikalatI hai| bhAva hotA hai, usa samaya hI 'koDavarDa' meM chapa jAtA hai aura phira 'zorTahenDa' meM hokara bAhara nikalatA hai, taba phala phorma' meM nikalatA hai ! AtmA aura paramANu milate haiM, vahA~-vahA~ AtmA kI upasthiti meM bhAvAbhAva ke spaMdana jagate haiM aura usameM ahaMkAra mila jAe ki ve spaMdana TAipa ho jAte haiN| jaba gata bhAva udaya meM Ae~ aura unake anusAra hI turanta hI Tepa ho cukI vANI nikalatI hai| jo vANI nikalatI hai, vaha pyora gata bhAvoM kA 'DiscArja' hI hai| kisIkA kiMcit mAtra bhI ulTA-sIdhA bolA gayA to vaha Tepa ho hI jAtA hai, parantu yaha manuSya kA mana, deha bhI aisA hai ki jisameM Tepa ho jAtA hai| sote hue vyakti ke pAsa ulTA boleM, to bhI vaha grahaNa kara liyA jAtA hai| yahA~ para yaha kudarata kI mazInarI hai! a~dhere meM yA akele meM aisA bolA gayA to vaisA hI jahara jaisA sunane ko milegaa| apanI tarapha se thor3e bhI ulTe spaMdana khar3e hote hI pratikramaNa karake unheM miTA denaa| hama bole vaha bhI rikaoNrDa hai para sAmanevAlA bolA vaha bhI rikaoNrDa hI hai| itanA hI samajha leM taba phira kabhI bhI kisIke bola se coTa nahIM lgegii| 'sthUla saMyoga, sUkSma saMyoga, vANI ke saMyoga para haiM aura parAdhIna haiN|' - dAdA bhgvaan| vANI kI maryAdA kitanI? samajha kevaladarzana kI hone ke bAvajUda vANI' eTa e TAima' (eka samaya meM) eka se adhika 'vya poinTa' kliyara nahIM kara sktii| jaba ki darzana 'eTa e TAima' samagra DigrI para ghUma sakatA hai| vizva ke tamAma rahasyajJAna, gUDha jJAna ko jAnane ke lie 'AtmajJAnI puruSa' ke pAsa jAne ke alAvA aura koI upAya hI nhiiN| isalie to zAstrakAroM ne 'jJAnI puruSa' ko svayaM dehadhArI paramAtmA hI kahA hai| vahA~ jAe to khuda kA AtmA jAnane ko mile! - DaoN. nIrUbahana amIna
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________________ WWW anukramaNikA [1] jAgRti jAgRti ho, acala svabhAva kI 1 dete bhAvanidrA meM se jAgo 1 jAgRti, jAgRta kI ArAdhanA paudgalika jAgRti : svarUpa se hI jAgRti 2 bhAvanidrA TAlo kevalajJAna arthAt... saccI samAdhi, jAgRti sahita saMsAra jAgRti - duHkha kA 'maiM' kauna? jAnane se, upArjana 2 jAgRti khulatI hai khilaunoM kI ramaNatA akarttApada, vahA~ saMpUrNa jAgRti jAgRti hI pariNamita mokSa meM 4 upayoga kyA? jAgRti kyA? 16 indriyajJAna : jAgRti akramavijJAna ke kAraNa jAgRti 16 nijadoSa darzana Agraha mAtra bhAvanidrA hI! 'TaoNpamosTa' jAgRti hitAhita kA viveka, vaha bhAva jAgRti-svabhAva jAgRti 8 bhI jAgRti jAgRti kI zurUAta... jJAnI jAgRta vahA~ jagat... 'yoga-kriyAkAMDa' jAgRti nahIM caMcalatA hI du:kha kA kAraNa 19 [2] dhyAna dhyAna kA svarUpa 22 kriyA meM dhyAna : dhyeya, dhyAtA kA saMdhAna 23 dhyAna ke pariNAma ahaMkAra-dhyAna meM nahIM, para AtmadhyAna se hI samAdhi [3] prArabdha-puruSArtha puruSArtha kise kahate haiM? 30 puruSArtha yAnI upayogamaya jIvana 43 pAcana meM puruSArtha kitanA? 31 'vyavasthita' kI yathArtha samajha 44 jIvoM kA Urdhvagamana kisa taraha? 33 bhAgya bar3A yA puruSArtha? 48 to saccA puruSArtha kauna-sA? 35 kramika mArga, bhrAMta puruSArthAdhIna 50 prArabdha karma kyA? saMcita karma prArabdha, kisa taraha udaya meM kyA? 36 AtA hai? bhrAMta puruSArtha aura prArabdha karma 37 saphala ho vaha puruSArtha puruSArtha kauna-sA kareM? [4] zraddhA aMdhazraddhA-ajJazraddhA 55 zraddhA-jJAna AtmazraddhA-prabhuzraddhA [5] abhiprAya abhiprAyoM kA aMdhApana 57 svAgata yogya abhiprAya abhiprAya aura indriyA~ 58 abhiprAya kA svarUpa abhiprAya meM se aTakaNa 58 mizracetana ke prati abhiprAya abhiprAya kisa taraha chUTeM? 58 [6] kuzalatA kA a~dhApana kuzalatA, eksaparTa hone se roke 64 sAra (belensa) kA khAtA 66 [7] aMtarAya aMtarAya kisa taraha par3ate haiM? 68 jJAnAMtarAya-darzanAMtarAya kisase? 71 mokSamArga meM aMtarAya 71 [8] tiraskAra-tarachor3a jisakA tiraskAra, usase hI bhaya74 tarachor3a kA upAya kyA? 76 tarachor3a, kitanA jokhimavAlA? 75 [9] vyaktitva saurabha vItarAgatA se baratate haiM 'ye' prema aura bhakti 'jJAnI' 78 nirdoSa dRSTi, vahA~ jaga nirdoSa 87 1958 kA vaha adbhuta darzana 79 kartA huA to bIja par3eMge 88 jJAna kA tarIkA nahIM hotA 80 AtmajJAna milA yA prakaTa huA? 88 'jJAnI', mokSa kA pramANa dete haiM 81 ...taba vANI vijJAna kaha jAtI hai89 nimitta kI mahattA 84 ...vaha kaisA adbhuta sukha 90 puNya kA saMbaMdha kaba taka? 85 'jJAnI' vikasita kareM sva-zakti 90 dharmadhyAna 86 'jJAnI' kI upamA? 90 zukladhyAna 86 'jJAnI' kI parakha mana aura AtmA 86 AptavANI-kaisI kriyAkArI [10] akrama mArga 'jJAnI' kRpA se hI 'prApti' 94 akrama meM pAtratA ...apUrva aura avirodhAbhAsa 95 aho! aisA g2az2aba kA jJAna! 97 [11] AtmA aura ahaMkAra sanAtana cetana 99 dharma : bheda svarUpa se - abheda kudarata arthAt... 99 svarUpa se kisakA kisa para qAbU? 99 taraNatAraNa hI tAreM ahaMkAra kA svarUpa 101 [12] vyavasthA 'vyavasthita' kI 'vyavasthita zakti' 104 sevA meM samarpaNatA kAlacakra ke anusAra... 104 kyA naI hI samAja-racanA? 106 50 38
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________________ 182 [13] vyavahAradharma : svAbhAvikadharma sukha prApta karane ke lie dharma aMtarasukha - bAhyasukha kauna-sA? 108 ahaMkAra vilaya hone se sanAtana sarva samAdhAna se, sukha hI 108 sukha 113 bhagavat upAya hI, sukha kA mithyA darzana se hI duHkha kAraNa 109 du:kha upakArI banate haiM / 114 kAla kA to kyA doSa? 111 pudgala sukha : udhAra kA vyavahAra114 [14] saccI samajha, dharma kI dharma kA sthAna 116 sacce dharma kI samajha 121 dharma : tyAga meM yA bhoga meM 116 mokSa kA mArga to... 122 ...taba dharma ne rakSaNa kiyA? 117 svabhAvabhAva, vaha svadharma 124 janma se pahale aura marane ke bAda...120 [15] AcaraNa meM dharma dharma aura AcaraNa 125 jJAna ke anusAra pravartana 127 manuSyatva kI sArthakatA 125 sIdhe ke lie zakti mA~ganI kleza, vahA~ dharma nahIM 125 par3atI haiM 129 akrama vijJAna : nayA hI abhigama126 prArthanA se zaktiyA~ prApta 129 AjJA hI dharma 127 prArthanA : satya kA Agraha 130 [16]'rileTiva' dharma : vijJAna 'rileTiva' dharma, Devalapa hone dharmAdharma AtmA ke lie 132 jJAnadhana AtmA 136 vItarAga dharma hI mokSArtha 133 vijJAnaghana AtmA 137 'rileTiva' dharma kI maryAdA 133 gaccha-mata, vahA~ 'rileTiva' dharma 137 pAriNAmika dharma kA tharmAmITara 134 dharmasAra arthAt..... mukhya bhAvanA, mokSamArga meM 135 dharma kyA? vijJAna kyA? 139 [17] bhagavAna kA svarUpa, jJAna dRSTi se Izvara kA aMza yA sarvAMza? 140 saMkalpI cetana bhagavAna kI sarvavyApakatA 141 [18] jJAtApada kI pahacAna Apa AtmA? pahacAne binA? 143 aMta meM to ahaMkAra vilaya karanA hai 145 AtmA kI bhUla? 143 'jJAtA' ko hI 'jJeya' banAyA! 145 svAdhyAya yA parAdhyAya? 144 ajJAna nivRtti vijJAna se / [19] yathArtha bhaktimArga zraddhA hI phala detI hai 148 bhakti : sthUla se sUkSmatama 152 bhakti se Izvara kI prApti 149 mokSa : jJAna se yA bhakti se? 153 bhakti : parokSa aura pratyakSa 150 parAbhakti : aparAbhakti 51 [20] guru aura jJAnI yathArtha guru 155 hI detA 158 laukika guru 156 'jJAnI puruSa' kA siddhAMta kaisA! 161 'rileTiva' dharma, to saphara ke dharma kA marma 162 sAthI jaise 157 ....vaisA bhAna, vaha bhI bar3I jAgRti162 vyApAra, dharma meM to zobhA nahIM guru ko pahacAnanA...... 162 [21] tapazcaryA kA hetu tapa, tyAga aura upavAsa 164 upavAsa meM upayoga 170 prApta tapa 165 ....eka bhI upavAsa nahIM huA 173 'jJAnI' ko tyAgAtyAga? 166 uNodarI-jAgRti kA hetu 173 zuddhAtmA kA lakSya 167 'upavAsa', phira bhI kaSAya 174 'dAdAI' gyArasa 167 upavAsa se mukti? 177 AyaMbilaH eka sAinTiphika prayoga169 'karo' para phala 'zraddhA' se hI 178 [22] laukika dharma mokSa ke lie kauna-sA dharma? 179 'AtmA' kI pahacAna 'jJAnI' hI dharma, pakSa meM yA niSpakSatA meM? 180 karavAe~ dharma meM bhI vyApArI vRtti... 181 laukika dharma, dvaMdva meM hI rakheM 183 ...to rirTana TikiTa tiryaMca kI! 181 turanta hI phala de vaha dharma 184 [23] mokSa prApti, dhyeya mokSa, vaha kyA hai? 185 bhUla rahita bana 192 mokSaprApti kA mArga 186 mAtra mokSa kA hI niyANAM 193 mokSa arthAt sanAtana sukha... 187 mokSa, sthAna yA sthiti? 193 siddhagati, sthiti kaisI? 188 kaThina, mokSamArga yA saMsAramArga? 194 mokSa kA svarUpa 188 saccA mumukSu kaisA hotA hai? 194 svarga, phira bhI baMdhana 189 AtmA abaMdha, kisa apekSA se? 195 vinAzI cIz2a nahIM cAhie 190 mokSa kisakA? jagat kI sattA kahA~ para jhuke? 191 _ [24] mokSamArga kI pratIti mokSaprApti-mArgadarzana 196 mokSa - khuda apanA bhAna hone se 198 [25] I & My 'maiM' kisa taraha alaga ho? 201 'jJAnI' hI maulika spaSTIkaraNa deM203 [26] smRti - rAga-dveSAdhIna tIvra smRti, vahA~ tIvra rAga-dveSa 205 prazasta rAga, mokSa kA kAraNa 208 smRti-vismRti, karanA muzkila 206 yAda? kitanA bar3A parigraha! 209 jJAnI kI smRti 207 135 138 141 153
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________________ 274 277 285 [27] nikhAlisa nikhAlisatA nirbhaya banAe 270 [28] mukta hAsya jitanI saralatA utanA mukta hAsya213 mukta hAsya, mukta puruSa kA 214 [29] ciMtA : samatA bhUtakAla, abhI kauna yAda nirAkulatA! karatA hai? 216 samatA, vahA~ rAga-dveSa nahIM 220 parasattA adhikAra, ciMtA ko samabhAva-samatA, pharka kyA? 221 janma de 217 'samabhAva se nikAla' nakkI hone ciMtA, saphalatA kA avarodhaka 218 para hala 221 bhrAMti meM zAMti rahatI hai? 219 samatAbhAva : jJAtA-dRSTAbhAva 222 'jJAnI' ke sAnidhya meM kaisI tRSNA, tRpti aura saMtoSa 222 [30] saMyama pariNAma yathArtha saMyama kise kahate haiM? 224 saMyama hI puruSArtha 226 saMyama se hI Atmazakti prakaTa 225 lobha ke sAmane saMyama, kisa taraha?227 saMyama ke skopa kA lAbha uThAo!225 [31] icchApUrti kA niyama kudarata, kitanI niyamabaddha 228 icchA, usake pratyAkhyAna 231 icchA, vahA~ aMtarAya [32] TI.vI. kI AdateM ...phira mahatva kisakA? 232 TAima pAsa yA jIvana vyartha ga~vAyA?233 [33] lobha kI aTakaNa parasattA, vahA~ lobha kyA? 234 tRpti, AtmajJAna ke binA nahIM hai234 lobha se prApti yA nukasAna? 234 lobhI - haraeka bAta kA lobha 235 [34] lagAma chor3a do to karttApada kA adhyAsa chUTe 236 DiscArja svarUpoM ko, nirdoSa dekheM239 'jJAnI' kA kaisA prayoga! 237 DrAmeTika meM karttApada nahIM 240 'cArja-DiscArja' kA sAinsa 238 saMyama, carama dazA kA 241 [35] karma kI thiyarI vyavahAra meM, karma kyA? dharma kyA?242 karma chedana kI sattA jagat ne kartA thiyarI hI jAnI 242 prabhusmaraNa se helpa karma kA kartA kauna? 243 bhagavAna ko bhI karmabaMdhana 261 vaha ahaMkAra kauna nikAle? 245 'jJAnI puruSa' ke divya karma 262 ajJAna, vahA~ avirata krmbNdhn| 245 karma kA svarUpa jJAna, vahA~ karmabaMdhana hI nahIM 246 karma aura 'vyavasthita' 265 prAyazcita se halke karma baMdhate haiM 246 bhAvabIja ke sAmane sAvadhAna 263 karmabaMdhana, manuSyagati meM hI 247 karma laya kI pratIti 264 karma, kitane hI janmoM kI silaka 248 pudgala ke karmabaMdhana kisa taraha?264 hisAba, kisa taraha cukAyA jAe? 249 gAr3ha karmoM se hala 265 Azrava, nirjarA : saMvara, baMdha 250 gAr3ha karma arthAt kyA? 266 zubhAzubha kA tharmAmITara 252 'niSkAma karma' kisa taraha kie sthUla karma - sUkSma karma 253 jAte haiM? 267 bure karmoM se chuTakArA 259 AtmA, anAdi se zuddha hI! 268 karma, pApa-puNya ke 259 karanA, karavAnA aura anumodana niMdA kA karmabaMdhana 260 karanA 268 [36] bhAva, bhAvya aura bhAvaka bhAvaka hI bhAva kA kartA 271 badalate rahate haiM bhAva meM ekAkAra ho, to bhAvya 271 bhAvoM meM ekAkAra nahIM hoM to bhAvaka kA svarUpa 272 mukti 276 bhAvaka kA AdhAra, saMsArIjJAna 272 vyApaka-vyApya bhAvaka, samasaraNa ke anusAra prameya-pramAtA [37] kriyAzakti : bhAvazakti kriyAzakti, parasattA adhIna 279 bhAva kA phaoNrma bhAva ke anusAra phala AtA hai| 280 bhAva hI mukhya eviDensa bhAva-icchA, pharka kyA? 280 dravya-bhAva 289 saMyogoM kA mUla, bhAva 281 bhAvamana : pratiSThita AtmA 291 bhAva alaga - vicAra alaga 281 pratibhAva qImata, bhAva kI hI 282 svabhAva-svakSetra : parabhAva-parakSetra 294 pratipakSI bhAva 284 [38] 'sva' meM hI svasthatA avasthA meM asvastha 295 avasthA : paryAya [39] jJAna kA svarUpa : kAla kA svarUpa svarUpajJAna kA adhikArI 299 kAladravya vartamAna meM barateM, jJAnI 300 [40] vANI kA svarUpa vANI AtmA kA guNa nahIM hai 303 vANI, vaha ahaMkAra kA svarUpa 317 syAdvAda vANI 304 vItarAga vANI ke binA, nahIM upadeza kA adhikArI 305 koI upAya 318 hRdayasparzI sarasvatI 307 vANI kA rikaoNrDiMga vacanabala, jJAnI ke 308 vANI kA 'cArja poinTa' mauna tapobala 309 jahA~ prakaTa dIpaka, vahIM kAma jIvaMta TeparikaoNrDa, kaisI jimmedArI!311 hotA hai 293 261 261 319 265 53 54
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________________ AptavANI-4 AptavANI zreNI - 4 (1) jAgRti jAgRti ho, acala svabhAva kI jahA~ AtmA nahIM hai, vahA~ 'maiM hU~' aisI pratiSThA kI, isalie pratiSThita AtmA huaa| usameM cetana hai hI nhiiN| vaha 'mikenikala' cetana hai| vaha daraasala AtmA nahIM hai, sirpha 'mazInarI' hI hai| yadi kabhI usameM peTrola vagairaha nahIM DAleM na, to vaha khatma ho jaae| are, yahA~ se havA hI nahIM jAne de to vaha pUrI mazInarI baMda ho jaae| 'mikenikala cetana' caMcala svabhAva kA hai aura aMdara jo daraasala AtmA hai, vaha acala svabhAva kA hai| kabhI bhI caMcala huA nhiiN| aisA vaha acala AtmA hai aura vahI bhagavAna hai, tIna lokoM kA nAtha hai parantu bhAna ho jAe taba!!! khuda ko khuda kA bhAna ho jAe to tIna lokoM ke nAtha jaisA sukha brte| yaha to abhAnatA meM hai| yaha saba ajAgRta dazA meM hai| bhAvanidrA meM se jAgo pUrA jagat bhAvanidrA meM hai| bhAvanidrA matalaba svabhAva meM so gayA, vaha aura phira dehanidrA meM to svabhAva meM sotA hai aura parabhAva meM bhI sotA hai vh| dehanidrA meM deha kA bhI bhAna nahIM rhtaa| dehanidrA meM se deha kA bhAna Ae, taba dUsarI ora bhAvanidrA rahatI hai| abhAnatA se khuda, khuda kA ahita hI karatA rahatA hai| krodha-mAna-mAyA-lobha, ve bhAvanidrA ke kAraNa hote haiN| kisIko kiMcit mAtra du:kha hotA hai, vaha bhI bhAvanidrA ke kAraNa hotA hai| pUrA jagat bhAvanidrA meM hai, usameM se jaago| maiM to Apako sirpha yahI kahane AyA hU~ ki jaago| tujhe jAganA hai yA sonA hai? aise kaba taka sotA rahegA? praznakartA : maiM to jAga hI rahA hU~ na? dAdAzrI : 'kauna kahatA hai ki tU jAga rahA hai?' jaga rahA ho to kisIke sAtha kleza nahIM ho, jhagar3A nahIM ho, kisIke sAtha matabheda nahIM par3e, ciMtA nahIM ho| paudgalika jAgRti : svarUpa jAgRti do prakAra kI jAgRti : eka paudgalika jAgRti aura dUsarI Atmika jaagRti| paudgalika jAgRtivAlA pudgala (jo pUraNa aura galana hotA hai) meM hI ramaNatA karatA hai aura Atmika jAgativAlA kevala AtmA meM hI ramaNatA karatA hai| paudgalika jAgRti bar3hatI hI jAtI hai aura padagala meM ramaNatA karate-karate thaka jAtA hai, Uba jAtA hai aura phira khuda ke sacce sukha kI icchA kare, taba svarUpa jAgRti ke saMyoga sAre mila jAte haiM aura una saMyogoM ke milane ke bAda Age svarUpa jAgati meM AtA hai| svarUpa jAgRti meM thor3I A~kheM khulIM, taba phira dhIre-dhIre pUrI A~kheM khuleNgii| kevalajJAna arthAt... saMpUrNa jAgRti ko hI kevalajJAna kahA hai| dUsarA kucha hai hI nhiiN| kevalajJAna koI naI vastu nahIM hai| kisI bhI jagaha para gaphalata nahIM ho, thor3A bhI jhoMkA nahIM Ae, usakA nAma saMpUrNa jAgRti / isa saMsAra kI jAgRti to bahuta logoM ko hotI hI hai, parantu vaha sarvAMzataH nahIM hotii| saMsAra jAgRti - duHkha kA upArjana saMsAra kI jAgRti jaise-jaise sarvAMzataH hotI jAe vaise-vaise saMsAra
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________________ (1) jAgRti acchA hI nahIM lagatA use, use saMsAra duHkhadAyI lagatA hai| usake bAda vApisa khuda kI jAgRti karane kA prayatna karatA hai| jaise-jaise isa saMsAra kI jAgRti bar3he, vaise-vaise bhautika sukha, duHkha jaise lagate haiM, bhautika sukharAjasukha jaMjAla jaise lagate haiN| cakravartI rAjAoM kI khuda kI teraha sau rAniyA~ thiiN| cakravartI kA rAjya thA, vaha bhI unheM niraMtara duHkhadAyI lagatA rahatA thaa| kyoMki sukha kI coTI para baiThA huA vyakti, jise saMsAra kI jAgRti atyadhika bar3ha cukI ho, taba use saMsAra kI jAgRti hI duHkharUpa lagatI hai| isalie vaha samajhatA hai ki mujhe nayA jAnanA bAqI raha gayA hai ki jisameM se mujhe paramAnenTa sukha mile| hara eka jIva sukha ko DhUMDhatA hai| jaba taka saccA sukha nahIM milatA, taba taka bhautika sukhoM meM jitanI jAgRti ho usa anusAra use sukha milate rahate haiN| para yaha bhautika sukha sArA dvaMdvavAlA sukha hai, isalie sukha ke bAda duHkha Ae bagaira rahatA hI nahIM aura Atmika sukha dvaMdvAtIta sukha hai| jo sukha Ane ke bAda phira kabhI bhI jAe nahIM, vaha dvaMdvAtIta sukha, saccA sukha hai| jaise-jaise svarUpa kI jAgRti bar3he, vaise-vaise saccA sukha prakaTa hotA jAtA hai| yaha svarUpajJAna dene se Apako jAgRti utpanna hotI hai, phira usake bAda saMsAra kI jAgRti to bar3hatI rahatI hai, para svarUpa jAgRti hI mukhya vastu hai| ye faoNrena ke sAinTisTa 'jAgRti, jAgRti' bolate haiM, para vaha jAgRti pudgala meM hai, adhyAtma meM to kucha bhAna hI nhiiN| 'isameM' to sote haiM sabhI, pUrA jagat so rahA hai| khilaunoM kI ramaNatA pudgala kI jAgRti arthAt vinAzI cIz2oM meM hI rmnntaa| yAnI khilaunoM se hI khelate haiM sabhI, pUrA jagat khilaunoM se hI khela rahA hai| khulI A~khoM se nidrA jaisA khela hai| jAgRta ho jAe taba khilaunoM se nahIM khelte| aura avinAzI, sanAtana cIz2a se khele, vaha jaagRt| bAqI, ye khilaune to TUTate raheMge aura rote rahanA hai, TUTate raheMge aura phira ronA hai, TUTate raheMge aura phira ronA hai.... vinAzI cIz2oM meM khilaunoM se kaba taka khelanA hai? choTA baccA ho use khilaune deM aura TUTa jAe~, taba vaha AptavANI-4 kyA karatA hai? rotA hai na? vaise hI ye loga bhI khilaune se khelate haiM aura khilaunA TUTa jAe to rote haiM phira / 'merA beTA mara gayA!' are, yaha to khilaunA TUTa gayA ! choTe bacce ko to mAlUma nahIM ki yaha khilaunA TUTa gayA aura dUsarA lAyA jA sakatA hai !! saMsAra duHkhadAyI nahIM hai, lekina ajAgRti duHkhadAyI hai| praznakartA mokSa bhI khilaunA hai yA nahIM? dAdAzrI : nahIM, nahIM, khilaunA nahIM hai! khilaunA kise kahA jAtA hai ? jo vinAzI ho use yaha mokSa to jAtA hI nhiiN| jIva mAtra ko sukha cAhie hI aura vaha bhI sanAtana sukha caahie| aura vaha sukha jAtA hI nahIM ! koI kAna kATa le, jeba kATa le, cAhe jo kare, to bhI vaha sukha jAtA hI nhiiN| kyoMki khilaunoM meM use priyatA nahIM hai, nisbata nahIM hai| jAgRti hI pariNamita mokSa meM praznakartA mokSa aura jAgRti eka hI hai? dAdAzrI : jAgRti se hI mokSa hai| ajAgRti matalaba kyA? ApakA kisIke sAtha matabheda ho jAe, vaha ApakI ajAgRti hai| jise hitAhita kA bhAna hai vaha jAgRta aura jise hitAhita kA bhAna nahIM hai vaha ajAgRta, use hI bhAvanidrA kahA hai| khulI A~khoM se soe vaha bhAvanidrA aura baMda A~khoM se soe vaha dravyanidrA kisI vyakti se matabheda huA to usakA kAraNa kyA hai? to kaheM, bhAvanidrA / 4 praznakartA: isakA matalaba jAgRti aura mokSa eka hI hai? dAdAzrI : jAgRti, vo hI kevalajJAna hai, vo hI mukti hai| dUsarA isameM koI pharka nahIM hai| magara mokSa kA pariNAma jAgRti nahIM hai, jAgRti kA pariNAma mokSa hai| 'jAgRti iz2a da madara oNpha mokSa !' kucha loga mujhe kahate haiM ki, 'dAdA mujhe mokSa nahIM caahie|' aisA Ter3hA bole taba use hama kaheM ki, 'mokSa nahIM cAhie, para jAgRti cAhie
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________________ (1) jAgRti AptavANI-4 na?' taba vaha kahe ki, 'haaN| jAgRti to cAhie hI, dAdA!' use pUche ki, 'jAgRti tujhe pUrI karanI hai na?' taba kahe, 'hA~, pUrI karanI hI hai|' isa taraha sIdhI TikiTa dete haiM, muphta dete haiM to nahIM lete aura vo paise kharca karake lete haiM! apane loga aise haiM, hitAhita kA bhAna hI nhiiN| saMpUrNa jAgRti hI mokSa hai| saMpUrNa jAgRti hI kevalajJAna hai| ninyAnave pratizata jAgRti ho jAe aura eka pratizata jor3a deM taba sau pratizata para kevalajJAna hotA hai| AtmAnubhAva arthAt kyA, ki jJAna milane se pahale jo anubhava hote the, usake badale jJAna milane ke bAda naye prakAra ke anubhava hote haiM aura ve anubhava dhIre-dhIre bar3hate jAte haiM aura jAgRti bar3hatI hai| saMpUrNa jAgRti, vaha saMpUrNa anubhava hai| indriyajJAna : jAgRti do prakAra ke jJAna haiN| eka indriyajJAna, dUsarA atindriyjnyaan| indriyajJAna sImita hai, atIndriyajJAna asImita hai| logoM ko indriyajJAna meM bhI, saMsAra meM pUrNa jAgRti nahIM hai| indriyajJAna meM yadi saMpUrNa jAgRta ho cukA ho to vaha jabaradasta saMtapuruSa kahalAtA hai| praznakartA : indriyajJAna meM saMpUrNa jAgRti matalaba kyA? dAdAzrI : pA~ca jJAnendriyA~, pA~ca karmendriyA~, mana-buddhi-citta-ahaMkAra vaha saba indriyajJAna meM AtA hai| indriyajJAna kI saMpUrNa jAgRti meM Ae taba usakA ahaMkAra kaisA hotA hai ki kisIke sAtha usakA matabheda nahIM par3atA, hama matabheda DAleM to bhI vaha matabheda nahIM DAlatA, usa taraha se haTa jAtA hai| kahIM para jhagar3A hone kI jagaha ho to vahA~ vaha matabheda kA nivAraNa kara detA hai| indriyajJAna kI jAgRti se kisIke sAtha kiMcit mAtra TakarAva nahIM hotA, evarIvhera eDajesTebala ho jAtA hai, sAMsArika daqhala nahIM hotii| indriyajJAna meM bhI do prakAra kI jAgRti hai| eka bAhya aura dUsarI aaNtrik| bhale atindriyajJAna nahIM milatA, para indriyajJAna thor3e hI calA gayA hai? usake sTuDenTa bhI hindustAna meM bahuta milate haiM, parantu usake adhyApaka nahIM haiM, kaoNleja nahIM haiN| krodha-mAna-mAyA-lobha kA kAraNa kyA hai? kisI vyakti ko matabheda huA to usakA kAraNa kyA hai? to kaheM, bhaavnidraa| kisI vyakti ko krodha huA to usakA kAraNa kyA hai? to kahe. bhaavnidraa| kisI vyakti ko lobha hotA ho to usakA kAraNa kyA hai? to kahe, bhaavnidraa| bhAvanidrA se upadeza grahaNa nahIM hotaa| hameM ekabAra krodha huA to usameM se hameM ekabAra upadeza milatA hai na ki phira krodha nahIM karo? isake bAvajUda phira krodha karatA hai, vaha bhaavnidraa| krodha AnA, lobha honA, vaha ajAgRti hai| jitanI-jitanI ajAgRti kama huI, jAgRta ho, vaise-vaise krodha-mAna-mAyA-lobha kama hote jAte haiN| ajAgRta arthAt krodha karane ke bAda bhI nahIM pchtaataa| krodha karake jo pachatAtA hai, use thor3I jAgRti hai, para vaha ajAgRta adhika hai| krodha karane ke bAda patA cala jAe aura phira use zuddha kara DAle vaha kucha jAgRti kahalAtI hai| para krodha karane ke bAda patA hI nahIM calatA, vaha ajAgRta dazA! jo jAgati, krodha nAma kI kamajorI utpanna kare use jAgRti kaheMge hI kaise? kahIM bhI krodha nahIM ho, vaisA honA caahie| jo jAgRti krodha kA zamana kare, vaha jAgRti acchii| saccI jAgati to. krodha honevAlA ho. use mor3a le, vh| logoM ko jAgRti hotI hI nhiiN| abhI manuSyoM meM jo eka pratizata bhI jAgRti rahI hai, vaha isa nAbhi jitanI hI hai| dUsarI saba jagaha ajAgRta dazA hai, isa nAbhipradeza meM jo rUcaka pradeza khule hue haiM na, utanI jAgRti hai| bAqI jAgRti hI nahIM rahI, jAgRti hI khatma ho gaI hai| jAgRti bar3hatI-bar3hatI 360 DigrI kI jAgRti ho jAe, vaha kevalajJAna hai| jAgRti 359 DigrI ho taba taka jAgRti hI kahalAtI hai| krodha-mAna-mAyA-lobha sabhI ajAgRti hai| koI mujhe pUche ki vaha ajAgRti kisa prakAra se? vaha smjhaaie|' taba hama use kaheM ki, 'Apako
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________________ (1) jAgRti AptavANI-4 krodha-mAna-mAyA-lobha nikAlane haiM yA nahIM?' taba vaha kahatA hai ki, 'hA~, nikAlane haiN|' 'nikAlane haiM' kahe taba taka vaha jAgRta hai| parantu krodhamAna-mAyA-lobha ko khurAka de detA hai, vaha ajAgRti hai| jinheM nikAlane haiM unheM khurAka dete haiM, isalie ve Tikate haiN| yadi tIna varSa taka unheM khurAka nahIM deM to ve khar3e hI nahIM rheN| manuSya ajAgRta haiM, ye jAnavara bhI ajAgRta haiM, to donoM eka jaise hI kahalAe~ge na? manuSyagati kA lAbha nahIM milA use! nijadoSa darzana khuda kA doSa dikhe taba samajhanA ki jAgRta huA hai, nahIM to nIMda meM hI calate haiM sbhii| doSa khatma hue yA nahIM hue, usakI bahuta ciMtA karane jaisI nahIM hai, para jAgRti kI mukhya z2arUrata hai| jAgRti hone ke bAda naye doSa khar3e nahIM hote aura purAne doSa hoM to ve nikalate rahate haiN| Apa una doSoM ko dekho ki kisa-kisa taraha ke doSa hote haiN| khuda ke doSa dikheM, taba samajhanA ki mokSa meM jAne kI taiyArI huii| jAgRti ke binA kisIko khuda ke doSa nahIM dikhte| sAmanevAle ke doSa nikAlane hoM to do sau-pA~ca sau nikAla detA hai ! yadi hamAre doSa kisIko nukasAna kara rahe hoM to 'hameM' 'caMdUbhAI' se kahanA cAhie ki, 'pratikramaNa kro|' kisIko kiMcit mAtra du:kha dekara koI mokSa meM nahIM gayA hai| roja Ama kA rasa aura pUriyA~ khAtA hogA to usameM harja nahIM, para yaha duHkha dekara mokSa meM jAe, vaha hotA nhiiN| yahA~ para 'kyA khAte haiM, kyA pIte haiM', usakI vahA~ qImata nahIM hai| para vahA~ to kaSAyoM kA hI harja hai aura ajAgRti nahIM rahanI caahie| jagat ko sotA huA kyoM kahA jAtA hai? kyoMki 'sva-para' kA bhAna nahIM hai, khuda kA, sva kA aura para kA, hitAhita kA bhAna nahIM rhaa| mokSa ke lie kaSAyoM kA harja hai| 'TaoNpamosTa' jAgRti hamArI jAgRti 'TaoNpa' para kI hotI hai, Apako patA bhI nahIM cltaa| para Apake sAtha bolate hue jahA~ hamArI bhUla hotI hai, vahA~ hameM turanta mAlUma par3a jAtA hai aura turanta use dho DAlate haiN| usake lie yaMtra rakhA huA hotA hai, jisase turanta hI dhula jAtA hai| hamAre sUkSmatara aura sUkSmatama doSa bace haiM, jo jagat ke kisI bhI jIva ko thor3e-se bhI nukasAnadeha nahIM hote| hameM pUrA jagat nirdoSa dikhatA hai| hama khuda nirdoSa hue haiM aura pUre jagat ko nirdoSa hI dekhate haiN| aMtima prakAra kI jAgRti kauna-sI ki jagat meM koI doSita hI nahIM dikhe, vh| jJAtA-jJeya ke rUpa meM jagat meM saMpUrNa jJAna hAz2ira rahe, vaha saMpUrNa jAgati, vaha hameM rahatI hai| aura jise hamArA jJAna milA ho, unheM kitanI jAgRti honI cAhie ki koI bhI ghaTanA ho, taba hamAre 'pA~ca vAkya' 'eTa e TAima' hAz2ira raheM aura bhItara peTa kA pAnI z2arA bhI nahIM hile| koI bhI dehadhArI ho, phira per3a ho, pakSI ho, unameM zuddhAtmA dekhate-dekhate jaaeN| aisI jAgRti rahe, use 'TaoNpa'vAlI jAgRti kahA hai| usase Upara kI 'TaoNpamosTa' jAgRti kauna-sI? ki maiM isa 'caMdUbhAI' ke sAtha bAteM karU~, taba nizcaya se ye 'caMdUbhAI kauna haiM, vaha lakSya meM rakhakara bAta hotI hai, 'vaha zuddhAtmA hai' vaha lakSya meM rakhakara bAta hotI hai| jAgRti to bahuta 'TaoNpa' bAta hai| bhAva jAgRti - svabhAva jAgRti praznakartA : bhAvajAgRti kyA hai? dAdAzrI : bhAvajAgRti kramika mArga meM hotI hai| akrama mArga meM svabhAva-jAgRti hotI hai| bhAvajAgRti prakRti ko gar3hatI hai aura svabhAvajAgRti prakRti se nirlepa rakhatI hai| mere pA~ca vAkya Apako svabhAva jAgRti meM rakhate haiN| maiMne ApakI bhAvajAgRti khatma kara dI hai| pUrA jagat bhAvanidrA meM pha~sA huA hai| praznakartA : arthAt bhAvajAgRti se bIja par3ate haiM? dAdAzrI : haaN| 'maiM caMdUlAla hU~' karake dAna dene kA bhAva kare to bIja pdd'e| svabhAva jAgRti meM Ane ke bAda Apa bolate jarUra ho ki, 'mujhe
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________________ (1) jAgRti AptavANI-4 dAna denA hai|' lekina usakA bIja nahIM pdd'taa| kyoMki niahaMkArI haiM, islie| khuda kA svabhAva kyA hai, use nahIM jAnatA hai isalie bhAvanidrA kahA hai| khuda ke svabhAva ko jAnanA vaha nirAlaMba darzana hai, nirAlaMba jJAna hai| jAgRti kI zurUAta... pahale pudgala meM jAgRti AnI caahie| AtmabhAna hone ke bAda pudgala meM soe, phira AtmajAgRti utpanna hotI hai| ddha Dhala jAe to ye choTe bacce kaca-kaca karate haiM? nhiiN| kisalie? to kahe, 'ajJAna ke kAraNa hI n|' phira jaise-jaise bar3e hote haiM, vaise-vaise pudgala kI jAgRti AtI hai, taba kaca kaca karanI zurU karate haiN| usake bAda AtmajAgRti kI bAta AtI hai| ina bAlakoM ko vyavahAra jAgati nahIM hai| kisIko vyavahAra jAgRti nahIM hai| vyavahAra jAgRti ho to ghara meM yA bAhara matabheda nahIM pdd'e| kisIke sAtha bhI TakarAva meM nahIM aae| saMsAra meM jAgRti kise kahI jAtI hai ki khuda ke ghara meM kleza hone kI naubata nahIM Ane de| vyavahAra kI jAgRti meM lobha-kapaTa-moha jabaradasta hote haiM aura nizcaya kI jAgati meM to krodhamAna-mAyA-lobha khatma ho gae hote haiN| 'nIMda kyA hai? aura jaganA kyA hai?' vaha to samajhanA par3egA na? loga to aisA hI samajhate haiM ki ye pI.eca.DI. ho gae haiN| jAgRta manuSya to g2az2aba kA hotA hai| mana-buddhi-citta aura ahaMkAra aMta:karaNa ke ina cAroM hI bhAgoM ke hara eka kArya ke samaya hAjira rahe, use jAgRti kahate hai! jAgRti kise kahA jAtA hai? khuda, svayaM se kabhI bhI kisI bhI saMyoga meM klezita nahIM ho, vahA~ se jAgati kI zarUAta hotI hai| phira dUsare 'sTepiMga' meM dUsare se bhI khuda klezita nahIM hotA, taba se TheTha sahaja samAdhi taka kI jAgRti hotI hai| yadi jAga gae to jAgane kA phala honA caahie| kleza ho to jAga gae kisa taraha kahA jAegA? kisIko thor3AsA bhI du:kha de to vaha jAgRta kisa taraha kahA jAegA? kleza rahita bhUmikA karanI, use bahuta bar3A puruSArtha kiyA kahA jAtA hai| 'yoga-kriyAkAMDa' jAgRti nahIM dete praznakartA : ye pUjA, japa, tapa, karate haiM, vaha khuda kI jAgRti ke lie kucha helpa karate haiM kyA? dAdAzrI: vaha to jisa hetu ke lie kareM, usa hetu ke lie phala milatA hai| kisI AdamI ko 'zAdI' karanI ho aura patnI nahIM mila rahI ho, to pUjA, tapa kareM to use vaha mila jAtI hai| jisa hetu ke lie kareM vaha milatA hai| praznakartA : usase adhyAtma meM pragati nahIM milegI? dAdAzrI : adhyAtma ke hetu ke lie kare to AdhyAtmika phala milegaa| bAqI, AdhyAtmika hetu ke lie koI kare, vaisA hai hI nhiiN| sabhI ko jalana ho rahI hai, usa jalana kI hI davAI caahie| isa saMsAra ke duHkhoM kI jalana lagI hai logoM ko| vaha jAgati ke lie kucha karatA hI nhiiN| koI mAna kA bhUkhA, koI kIrti kA bhakhA. koI ziSyoM kA bhUkhA, ina sabhI bhIkhoM ke bhUkhe haiN| adhyAtma meM mAna nahIM, kIrti nahIM, kisI cIja kI vahA~ apekSA nahIM hai| aura ye azubha meM hI par3e haiM, koI mAna meM, koI kIrti meM, saMsArika cIjoM meM, bhogavilAsa meM, kitane loga aise adhyAtma mArga meM hoMge? koI hI vyakti hogaa| adhikatara to mAna ke bhUkhe haiM sbhii| eka hI kSaNa yadi nIMda baMda ho jAe to saba tarapha prakAza hI ho jaae| roz2a ke krama meM rahatA ho aura usameM hI tanmayAkAra rahatA ho, use nIMda meM kahA jAtA hai| carama jJAna kI tulanA meM yaha bAta kara rahA hU~ ki ye japa-tapa karate haiM, ve usameM hI tanmayAkAra rahate haiM, usameM se eka miniTa bhI jAgRta ho jAe to bahuta ho gyaa| khada ke doSa dikheM aura niSpakSapAtI jajamenTa de sake, vaha jAgRta kahalAtA hai| jAgRta ho usake hAtha meM sattA AtI hai| saMpUrNa jAgRta vyakti hI hameM jAgRta kara sakate haiN| praznakartA : kuMDalinI jAgRta karate haiM, vaha kyA hai? dAdAzrI : vaha mikenikala jAgRti hai, usakA aura daraasala jAgRti
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________________ (1) jAgRti AptavANI-4 kA kucha lenA-denA nahIM hai, kuMDalinI jAgRta huI yAnI AtmA thor3e hI jAgRta huA kahA jAegA? vaha mAdakatA hai eka prakAra kii| usase ekAgratA rahatI hai aura ThaMDaka lagatI hai| daraasala jJAnajAgRti kI jarUrata pdd'egii| praznakartA : ye jo 'meDiTezana' karate haiM, ve sabhI kahate haiM na ki meDiTezana bahuta upayogI hai, to vaha kyA hai? dAdAzrI : meDiTezana mAtra mAdakatA hai, usase ThaMDaka rahatI hai| jise jalana hotI ho use meDiTezana karane se zAMti lagatI hai| Apane jJAna liyA taba se Apako zuddhAtmA kA lakSya rahatA hai yA nahIM? praznakartA : dAdA, vaha to niraMtara rahatA hai| dAdAzrI : vahI dhyAna hai| dUsare aura bhalA kauna-se dhyAna karane haiM? yaha nAka dabAkara karate haiM, vaha dhyAna nahIM khlaataa| praznakartA : hama ghara para ApakA nididhyAsana karate haiM, vaha pratyakSa hai yA parokSa? isalie ekAgratA vagairaha karo to ahaMkAra bar3ha jAtA hai aura aise nukasAna uThAtA hai! sirpha eka yathArtha jJAna kA rAstA hI sephasAiDavAlA hai ki jisase dUsarA kucha khar3A nahIM hotaa| isa meDiTezana se khuda ko kyA phAyadA huA, vaha hameM socanA caahie| apanA kleza kama huA? yadi apanA kleza kama huA ho to 'rileTiva' dharma prApta huA kahalAegA aura kleza kA nAza huA to 'riyala' dharma prApta huA khlaaegaa| kleza karavAnevAlA kauna hai? ajnyaan| jitane 'rileTiva' dharma haiM, ve ajJAna meM rakhanevAle haiN| do prakAra ke dhyAna apane Apa hI hote haiM, ArtadhyAna aura raudrdhyaan| jaba ki dharmadhyAna aura zukladhyAna, unheM puruSArtha kahA jAtA hai| AtmadhyAna kA matalaba hI shukldhyaan| maiM zuddhAtmA hU~' vaisA dhyAna rahA, vahI shukldhyaan| jAgRti, jAgRta kI ArAdhanA se hI praznakartA : Apa balavAte haiM ve maMtra, AratI ve saba kyA hai? una sabakI kyA z2arUrata hai? dAdAzrI : aisA hai, ki yaha jo bulavAtA hU~ na, vaha pUrNa jAgRta logoM ke nAma lekara bulavAtA huuN| jo jAgRta haiM, unakI bhajanA sikhAte haiN| jo jAgRta haiM unheM yAda karo to ApakI jAgRti bar3hatI hai| unameM jitane jAgRta ho cuke haiM aura jitane jAgRta haiM, abhI unheM namaskAra bulavAyA hai aura unameM bhI abhI jo jAgRta haiM, unakI bAta adhika hai aura jo ho cuke haiM unakI sAdhAraNa bAta hai| ye namaskAra to sabhI jAgRtoM ko prasanna karate haiM. vinaya karate haiM, premabhAva karate haiN| yaha to sAinTiphika hai| vaha jaisA yahA~ saba karate haiM, vaisA hama bhI kareM to hama para 'jJAnI puruSa' prasanna hote haiN| khuda kI jarUrata se jyAdA akkala DAleM ki phira bigdd'aa| hama logoM kI duniyA to eka hai, para vaisI dUsarI duniyA ke sAtha 'jJAnI puruSa' ke tAra joinTa haiN| abhI jo saMpUrNa jAgRta haiM, unake sAtha hama tAra jor3a dete haiM, jinameM hamase thor3e hI aMza vizeSa jAgRti hai, unake sAtha ApakA tAra jor3a dete haiN| vaha tAra jor3ane se unake sAtha pahacAna ho jAtI hai| dAdAzrI : vaha pratyakSa hai| jaba taka hama hAz2ira haiM taba taka yaha hamArA phoTo bhI pratyakSa hai| 'maiM zuddhAtmA ha~' kA dhyAna zAyada kisIko nahIM rahatA ho, para 'dAdA' hI dhyAna meM rahate hoM to ve donoM eka hI hai| kyoMki 'jJAnI puruSa', ve hI ApakA AtmA hai| praznakartA : meDiTezana zUnyatA meM le jAtA hai? dAdAzrI : nhiiN| vaha spaMdana bar3hAtA hai| igoiz2ama bar3hAtA hai| praznakartA : ye jo cakra haiM, una cakroM jaisA kucha nahIM hai? dAdAzrI : hai| ve sAre cakra ilekTrikala insTaoNlezana haiN| aura vahA~ para cakra para dhyAna karane se ekAgratA hotI hai, mana acchA hotA hai, sthiratA AtI hai, para ahaMkAra bar3ha jAtA hai| sirpha saccA jJAna hI aisA hai ki jo kAunTara veTa nahIM mA~gatA hai| bAqI ye dUsare sabhI kAunTara veTa mA~geM vaisI vastue~ haiN| jo vastu lo usake sAmane badale meM dUsarI vastu denI par3atI hai|
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________________ AptavANI-4 (1) jAgRti bhAvanidrA TAlo isalie 'jJAnI puruSa' pUre jagat ko, bhAvanidrA meM hai, aisA kahate haiN| yaha kAma-roz2agAra karate haiM, usameM paise kamAne meM par3a gae, vaha eka tarapha kI nidrA ur3I aura dUsarI saba ora bhAvanidrA ! isalie dharma kI eka bUMda bhI prApta nahIM kii| dharma to, rAta ko eka kSaNa bhI bhAvanidrA nahIM hone detaa| sarva prakAra ke bhAva utpanna hoM, vaisA yaha loka hai, usameM bhAvanidrA nahIM AnI caahie| dehanidrA AegI to clegaa| praznakartA : bhAvanidrA hI AtI hai, dAdA! dAdAzrI : aisA kaise calegA? yaha Trena Ae taba kucha bhAvanidrA nahIM aatii| yaha Trena to eka janma kA maraNa lAtI hai, lekina bhAvanidrA to anaMta janmoM kA maraNa laaegii| citra-vicitra bhAva utpanna hoM, vaisA yaha jagat hai| usameM tujhe terA samajha lenA hai| yadi tujhe bhAvanidrA hogI to jagat tujhe cipttegaa| jahA~ bhAvanidrA Ae, vahA~ para hI pratikramaNa karanA hai| saccI samAdhi, jAgRti sahita isa dharma meM bar3e-bar3e vAkya likheM, vaha bhI bhaavnidraa| kisIko deha kI samAdhi baratatI hai, ve to mana kI paratoM meM par3e rahate haiN| varnA samAdhi to vaha hai ki hara eka prakAra kI jAgRti rahe, mana-vacana-kAyA se ekaeka bAla kI jAgRti rhe| praznakartA : mana kI samAdhi meM AnaMda kahA~ se AyA? dAdAzrI : vaha to mAnasika samAdhi hai, varnA saccI samAdhi to saMpUrNa jAgRti sahita hotI hai| saMpUrNa jAgRta kA AcAra varlDa meM uccatama hotA hai| jaise-jaise jAgRti bar3hatI jAe vaise-vaise jagat vismRta rahatA hai, usake bAvajUda bhI vaha jagat meM acche se acchA kAma kara batAtA hai, jitanI jAgati utanA Apako sukha brtegaa| jitanI jAgRti utanI Apako mukti brtegii| jitanI jAgRti utanA Apako mokSa brtegaa| jAgati, vahI mokSa hai| yaha sthala jAgRta hone ke lie hI hai| yahA~ hama jagAte hI haiN| jaise premabhagna manuSya mana ke kisI kone meM utara jAe vaise hI ye samAdhivAle mana ke kisI kone meM gahare utara jAte haiM aura usImeM AnaMda uThAte haiN| saccI samAdhi kise kahA jAtA hai? ki bAhara saMpUrNa jAgRta aura aMdara bhI saMpUrNa jAgRta ho| evarIvhera jAgRta ho| use uThate, baiThate, khAte, pIte, hue bhI saccI samAdhi nahIM jaatii| Adhi-vyAdhiupAdhi (bAhara se AnevAle duHkha) meM bhI niraMtara rahe vaha saccI samAdhi hai| use sahaja samAdhi kahA jAtA hai, nirvikalpa samAdhi kahA jAtA hai| ___ 'maiM' kauna? jAnane se, jAgRti khulatI hai praznakartA : sAmAnya rUpa se jAgRti kise kahA jAtA hai? dAdAzrI : dina to pUrA nikala jAtA hai| usameM khAnA, pInA, cAyapAnI vagairaha kA hisAba mila AtA hai| pUrA dina, jAgRti nahIM hone se vaha kisI na kisImeM, kisI bhI viSaya meM ulajhA huA rahatA hai| Apa jise jAgRti samajhate ho, vaha jagat saMbaMdhI kisI eka viSaya meM par3A ho, use kahate ho| vaha to 'sabjekTa' jAgRti kahalAtI hai| jagat ke logoM ko to viSaya aura lakSmI meM hI jAgRti hotI hai| jaba ki yathArtha jAgRti to hara eka jagaha para hotI hai, sarvagrAhI hotI hai| pUre jagat kI tamAma prakAra kI kriyAe~ ekAgratA karane ke lie haiM aura jo kriyA se vyagratA ho to use hamane ulTA upacAra kiyA khlaaegaa| japa-tapa vagairaha ekAgratA ke lie haiN| jise ekAgratA nahIM rahatI ho, use japayoga karanA cAhie. dusarA karanA cAhie, tIsarA karanA caahie| jaise-jaise ekAgratA bar3hatI jAe. vaise-vaise bhAvanidrA halkI hotI jAtI hai| kisIko bhAvanidrA halkI hotI hai, kisIko gAr3ha hotI hai| pAnI DAleM, aise hilAe~ to bhI nahIM jage, vaisI gADha bhAvanidrA meM loga par3e haiN| hama jaba svarUpa kA jJAna dete haiM, taba jarA A~kha khulatI hai| taba use dikhatA hai ki maiM to ina sabase judA huuN| phira jaise-jaise hamAre sAtha baiThatA hai, vaise-vaise A~kha khulatI jAtI hai| phira saMpUrNa jAgati ho jAtI hai| isalie AtmA ko jAnanA pdd'egaa| AtmA jAne binA to vahA~ para koI jAne hI nahIM de|
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________________ (1) jAgRti 16 AptavANI-4 akarttApada, vahA~ saMpUrNa jAgRti praznakartA : AtmA ko jAna liyA, aisA kaba kahalAegA? karttApana chUTa jAe taba? dAdAzrI : 'maiM yaha kara rahA hU~' vaha bhAna TUTa jAe taba AtmA jAna liyA khlaaegaa| pUrA dina bhUleM dikhAtA rahe, vaha aatmaanubhv| 'maiM yaha saMsAra calAtA huuN|' vaha bhAna nahIM hai Apako? praznakartA : vaha to apane Apa calatA hai! dAdAzrI : vaha to jaba acchA hotA hai, koI tArIpha kare ki 'are, inhoMne yaha kitanA acchA kiyaa|' taba kahatA hai, 'maiMne kiyA thaa|' aura galata ho jAe taba kahegA, 'yaha mere karmoM ke udaya ne ghera liyA hai|' purA jagat aise bolatA hai| karttApada kisI kAla meM chUTatA nhiiN| saba chUTatA hai para karttApada nahIM chuutttaa| karttApada kA bhAna nahIM TUTe, taba taka ahaMkArI kahalAtA hai aura ahaMkAra arthAt bhraaNti| saMpUrNa bhrAMtivAle ko 'vahA~' praveza nahIM karane dete| karttApada kA bhAna TUTa jAnA cAhie yA nahIM TUTa jAnA cAhie? zuddhAtmA bolate z2arUra haiM, para usase kucha hotA nahIM hai| vaha to karttApada kA bhAna TUTe aura kartA kauna hai, vaha samajha meM Ae phira kAma Age clegaa| nahIM to kaise calegA? jaba taka karttApada hai, taba taka adhyAtma kI jAgRti hI nahIM mAnI jaatii| karttApada chUTe binA koI bApa bhI mokSa ke daravAz2e meM paiThane de, aisA nahIM hai| 'maiM caMdUlAla hU~' vaha bhrAMti TUTa jAnI cAhie aura karttApada chUTa jAnA caahie| phira nATakIya kartApada rahatA hai| DrAmeTika karttApada yAnI kyA? 'maiMne kiyA', aise kahatA hai| jaise bhrartahari rAjA nATaka meM bolatA hai ki 'maiM rAjA huuN|' para sAtha hI 'maiM lakSmIcaMda haiM aura ghara jAkara khicaDI khAnI hai' vaha bhUla nahIM jaataa| usI taraha Apa 'maiM zuddhAtmA hU~' vaha bhUla nahIM jaate| aura 'yaha maiMne kiyA aisA bolate hoM, vaha 'DAmeTika' kahalAtA hai| kartApada kA bhAna TUTa jAnA caahie| nahIM to loga zuddhAtmA to gAte hI rahate haiM na? zAstroM meM to spaSTa likhA hI hai, usa taraha se vaha zAstra gAtA rahatA hai, para usase usake dina badaleM aisA nahIM hai| vaisA to anaMta janmoM se gAyA hai| upayoga kyA? jAgRti kyA? praznakartA : upayoga aura jAgRti, ve donoM smjhaaie| dAdAzrI : jAgRti ko kisI khAsa jagaha para kendrita karanA, vaha upayoga kahalAtA hai| jAgRti kisI aura meM na calI jAe, jaise ki saMsAra ke phAyade-nukasAna meN| eka hI jagaha para jAgRti ko kendrita rakheM, vaha upayoga! jahA~ jAgRti barate vaha upayoga, para vaha upayoga zubhAzubha kA upayoga kahalAtA hai| aura zuddha upayoga kise kahA jAtA hai? ki jo upayoga zuddhAtmA ke lie hI seTa kiyA ho| 'jJAnI paruSa' kI AjJA meM upayoga rahA, 'riyala'-'rileTiva' dekhate-dekhate cale to samajhanA ki aMtima dazA A gii| yaha to rAste meM bagaleM jhA~katA hai ki 'sTIla TreDiMga kaMpanI, phalAnI kaMpanI, dekho yaha kaisA hai!' isa taraha se dUsare upayoga meM rahe, vaha azubha upayoga kahalAtA hai aura upayoga dharma ke lie ho to acchaa| aura zuddha upayoga kI to bAta hI alaga hai na! akramavijJAna ke kAraNa jAgRti isa jagat kI jAgRti, vaha paudgalika jAgRti kahalAtI hai| isa saMsAra kI jAgRti jise ho, vaha bahuta hoziyAra manuSya hotA hai| pUrA dina jAgRta aura jAgRta / usa jAgRti meM thor3A bhI pramAda nahIM ho, phira bhI vaha paudgalika jAgRti kahalAtI hai, usakA phala saMsAra aaegaa| aura apanI 'yaha' jAgRti hai usakA phala kevalajJAna hai| yahA~ kI kriyAoM ko dekhakara lalacAnA nhiiN| yahA~ kI kriyAe~ sabhI yahIM kI yahIM kharca ho jAnevAlI hai| yahA~ kI kriyAe~ 'keza' phalavAlI haiN| isalie hamane kisIse tyAga nahIM karavAyA na! aura 'isa' vijJAna ne khoja kI hai ki jagat kyA hai aura kyA nahIM? kisake AdhAra para yaha saba calatA hai?' anaMta janmoM kI hamArI vaha khoja hama anAvRta kara rahe haiN| nahIM to bhalA ghaMTebhara meM mokSa hote hue sunA hai kisIkA bhI? karor3oM janmoM meM jisakA ThikAnA nahIM par3e, hama ghaMTebhara meM hI Apako usa svarUpa kA bhAna
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________________ (1) jAgRti karavA dete haiN| pUre varlDa ko kabUla karanA par3e, vaisA yaha vijJAna hai| 'jagat kyA hai? kyA nahIM? yahA~ phala denevAlA kyA hai? aura vahA~ phala denevAlA kyA hai? kitane bhAga meM cetana hai aura kitane bhAga meM nizcetana hai? jagat kauna calAtA hai?' vaha sArI hamArI khoja hai| 17 Agraha mAtra bhAvanidrA hI ! jaba taka manuSya ko kisI bhI prakAra kA Agraha hai, taba taka manuSya bhAvanidrA meM hI hai| Agraha, mokSa meM jAte hue vaha galata cIz2a hai| aisA jaba se jAne, taba se jAgRti zurU hotI hai| abhI to Agraha hI nahIM, parantu matAgrahI, durAgrahI ho gae haiN| jAti kA Agraha ho, use kadAgrahI kahA hai| vaha bahuta jokhimavAlA nahIM hai| lekina mata kA Agraha matalaba matAgraha, yAnI ki 'maiM jaina, maiM vaiSNava, maiM sthAnakavAsI, maiM dezavAsI, maiM digaMbara' vaha bahuta hI jokhimavAlA hai| hitAhita kA viveka, vaha bhI jAgRti vItarAgoM kA mArga kyA kahatA hai ki kisIko Apa 'vaha galata hai' aisA kahoge to Apa hI galata ho| use dRSTiphera hai, isalie use vaisA dikhatA hai| usameM usakA kyA doSa? koI a~dhA dIvAra se TakarAe, phira a~dhe ko ulAhanA diyA jAtA hogA ki dikhatA kyoM nahIM? are, dikhatA nahIM thA isalie hI to vaha TakarA gyaa| vaise hI yaha pUrI duniyA khulI A~khoM se so rahI hai| ye sabhI kriyAe~ ho rahI haiM, ve sabhI nIMda meM hI ho rahI haiN| svapna meM yaha saba ho rahA hai| aura mana meM jAne kyA hI mAna baiThA hai ki hama to kitanI sArI kriyAe~ kara rahe haiN| para ye svapna kI kriyAe~ kAma nahIM aaeNgii| jAgRta kI kriyAoM kI z2arUrata pdd'egii| ye to khulI A~khoM se so rahe haiN| jAgRta to kauna hotA hai? khuda ke hitAhita kA bhAna ho vaha pUrA jagat mAna baiThA hai ki 'hitAhita kA mujhe bhAna hai|' para vaha hitAhita kA bhAna nahIM khlaataa| khuda hI ahita kara rahA hai, jisa lakSmI ko ikaTThI karane ke lie rAta-dina hitAhita DhUMDhatA hai, vaha lokasaMjJA hai| AptavANI-4 usake kAraNa rAta-dina khA-pIkara paisoM ke pIche hI par3e rahate haiN| vaha dekho na, 'oNna' kA vyApAra (mUla qImata se jyAdA meM becanA) kiyA hai! isa hindustAna meM to bhalA oNna ke vyApAra hote hoMge? chupakara jo-jo kArya karate haiM, vaha adhogati hai| hindustAna meM paidA huA to janma se hI sAMsArika jAgRti kucha aMzoM taka lekara AyA hotA hai| eka to sAMsArika jAgRti aura phira kaliyuga, to sUjha nahIM par3atI hai| satyuga ho taba to sUjha par3atI hai| ina choTe baccoM ko unake khilaunoM saMbaMdhita hI jAgRti hotI hai, vaise hI ina logoM ko to 'inkama Taiksa' aura 'sela Taiksa' saMbaMdhI hI, paise saMbaMdhI hI jAgRti pUre dina rahA karatI hai| hindustAna ke logoM ko to aisA hotA hogA ? hindustAna kA manuSya yadi pUrA jAgRta ho jAe to pUre varlDa ko u~galI para nacAe / ye to aNahakka (binA haqa kA) kI lakSmI aura aNahakka ke viSaya ke pIche hI par3e haiN| parantu use mAlUma nahIM ki jAte samaya arthI nikAlate haiM aura nAmavAlA baiMka belensa sArA kudarata kI jabtI meM calA jAtA hai| kudarata kI jabtI matalaba riphaMDa bhI nahIM miltaa| sarakAra ne le liyA ho to riphaMDa bhI milatA hai, para yaha to kudarata kI jabtI ! isalie hameM kyA kara lenA cAhie? AtmA kA / AtmA ke bAre meM bhale na samajho para paraloka kA to karo! paraloka kA nahIM bigar3e, vaisA to rakho ! yaha loka to bigar3A huA hI hai, usameM kucha barakata hai nhiiN| hitAhita kA bhAna ho ki mujhe sAtha meM kyA le jAnA hai, itanA yadi vaha socatA ho na to bhI kAphI hai| 18 jJAnI jAgRta vahA~ jagat..... praznakartA : kRSNa bhagavAna ne kahA hai, 'jahA~ jagat jAgatA hai vahA~ hama sote haiM aura jahA~ jagata sotA hai, vahA~ hama jAgate haiN|' vaha samajha meM nahIM aayaa| vaha samajhAie / dAdAzrI : jagat bhautika meM jAgatA hai, vahA~ zrI kRSNa sote haiM aura jagat sotA hai, vahA~ zrI kRSNa bhagavAna jAgate haiN| aMta meM adhyAtma kI jAgRti meM AnA pdd'egaa| saMsArI jAgRti vaha ahaMkArI jAgRti hai aura nirahaMkArI jAgRti se mokSa hai|
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________________ (1) jAgRti AptavANI-4 caMcalatA hI duHkha kA kAraNa manuSya kI do prakAra kI jAgRti hai, eka sthiratA kI jAgRti aura eka caMcalatA kI jaagRti| manuSya caMcalatA kI jAgRti meM Age bar3ha gayA hai, sthiratA kI jAgRti meM eka pratizata bhI jAgRta nahIM huaa| aura caMcalatA kI jAgRti meM koI 10 pratizata, koI 15 pratizata, koI 20 pratizata, koI 30 pratizata jAgRta huA hotA hai| caMcalatA kI jAgRti jAnavara banAtI hai aura sthiratA kI jAgRti mokSa meM le jAtI hai| jisa jAgRti se sthiratA bar3hatI hai, vaha jAgRti sccii| ye amarIkana behada caMcala ho gae haiM, ve mahAna duHkha meM pha~sa gae haiN| unake du:kha to rone se bhI nahIM jaaeNge| AtmahatyA karoge to bhI nahIM jAe~ge, vaise duHkha khar3e ho rahe haiN| khuda, apane hI jAla meM pha~sa gae haiN| thor3e samaya bAda vahA~ para cIkha-pukAra maca jaaegii| abhI to igoijama kara rahe haiN| caMcalatA bar3hI yAnI pha~sate haiN| caMcalatA bar3he taba kyA karate haiM? hAI-ve para 67 veM mIla para, dUsare phalAMga para vahA~ se phona karane kA koI sAdhana nahIM ho to vahIM se phona karane kA sAdhana rakho aisA kahate haiM, 'are, kyoM dUsare phalAMga para hI lagAnA hai?' taba kahate haiM ki, 'pahale phalAMga para hai, tIsare phalAMga para hai, para dUsare phalAMga para phona karane kA sAdhana nahIM hai!' dekho to sahI, kitanI adhika caMcalatA ho gaI hai! yaha meDanesa hai! itanA sArA khAne-pIne kA hai, phira bhI parA varlDa meDanesa meM par3A hai| loga duHkhI, du:khI aura du:khI! paramAnenTa du:khI !! eka kSaNa ke lie bhI sukhI nahIM!! jaba taka sthiratA kI zakti utpanna nahIM hotI, taba taka sukhI kisa taraha se ho sakate haiM? praznakartA : do vicAroM ke bIca meM sthiratA hotI hai kyA? dAdAzrI : aisA hai na, vaha sthiratA saba bekAra hai| vaha 'pekiMga' kI sthiratA, kisI kAma kI nahIM hai| vaha sthiratA to. sthiratA nahIM kahalAtI na? sthiratA to aDiga honI caahie| Upara se eTamabomba giranevAlA ho, taba bhI sthiratA nahIM TUTe, vaha sthiratA kahalAtI hai, jagat kA mana caMcala hai| hamArA mana sthira gati se ghUmatA rahatA hai, yAnI ki jaise yahA~ para do hajAra loga hoM aura hameM unase zekahenDa karanA ho to ve zekahenDa karate jAe~ge aura Age bar3hate jaaeNge| usI taraha hamAre mana ke vicAra zekahenDa karate-karate jAte haiN| koI vicAra khar3A nahIM rhtaa| eka sekanDa ke lie bhI khar3A nahIM rahatA! aura ApakA eka vicAra paMdraha miniTa taka khar3A rahatA hai, Adhe ghaMTe taka khar3A rahatA hai| khaDA rahatA hai yA nahIM rahatA? praznakartA : hA~, khar3A rahatA hai| dAdAzrI : hamArA bhI mana to hai| mana nahIM ho taba to 'ebasanTa mAinDeDa' khlaaeNge| hamArA mana bahuta prakhara hai| Upara eTamabomba par3e vaisA laga rahA ho, to bhI vaha hilatA-karatA nahIM hai, caMcalatA nAma mAtra ko bhI nahIM hotii| mana sthira vega se ghUmatA rahatA hai| aura ApakA to jaise yaha gur3a kA Tukar3A par3A ho na aura makkhiyA~ usake AsapAsa cakkara lagAtI hI rahatI haiM, vaise hI ApakA mana kisI cIz2a ko dekhe to phiratA hI rahatA hai usake piiche| praznakartA : vaha caMcalatA nikAleM kisa taraha se? dAdAzrI : aba jJAna ke bAda Apako caMcalatA nikAlane kI z2arUrata hI nahIM hai na? Apako to dekhate rahanA hai| maiMne to Apako jJAna diyA hai| aba vaha caMcalatA kyA karatI hai, 'Apako' vaha 'dekhate' hI rahanA hai| bAqI jagat ke loga to, mana ke sAtha khuda bhI khelane lagate haiN| mana nAce taba ve bhI nAcate haiN| are, mana nAca rahA hai| 'tU' usake nAca dekhatA raha na ! yaha to 'Apa' bhI usake sAtha nAcate ho| manacAhA vicAra Ae taba 'Apa' nAcane laga jAte ho aura nApasaMda Ae to usake sAtha jhagar3ate ho ki 'tU kahA~ AyA? tU kahA~ AyA?' nApasaMda vicAra Ae~ taba to patA cala jAtA hai na ki mana kharAba hai, vaha kharAba vicAra kara rahA hai| kharAba vicAra Ae usa ghar3I 'Diprezana' A jAtA hai aura acche vicAra Ae~ taba 'eliveTa' (utsAhita) ho jAtA hai / maiM to Apako aisA taiyAra karanA cAhatA hU~ ki varlDa meM koI manuSya Apako Dipresa kara hI nahIM ske| Apako Dipresa karane AyA ho, vaha khuda hI Dipresa hokara calA jAe! praznakartA : suSupti meM sthiratA jaisI sthiti hotI hai?
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________________ (1) jAgRti dAdAzrI : sthiratA jaisA kucha bhI nahIM hotA! yaha 'mazIna' bahuta garama ho jAe, taba use baMda karake ThaMDA kara dete haiM na? vaise hI yaha suSupti meM baMda rahatA hai, mana pUre dina kA garama ho gayA ho, vaha baMda ho jAtA hai| nIMda sArI mazInarI ko ThaMDA kara detI hai| 21 praznakartA: jJAna lene kI icchA huI, vaha svarUpa jAgRti kahalAtI hai? dAdAzrI : use svarUpa jAgRti ke saMyoga milane zurU hue, aisA kahA jaaegaa| pahale svarUpajJAna prApta karane kI icchA honI, vaha eka saMyoga milA, phira 'jJAnI puruSa' mila jAte haiN| svarUpajJAna prApta karane kA saMyoga mile tabhI kAma ho sake vaisA hai, para vaha saba 'sAinTiphika sarakamasTenziyala eviDensa' hai| (2) dhyAna dhyAna kA svarUpa praznakartA: jaina dharma meM dhyAna kyoM nahIM hai? dAdAzrI : jaina dharma meM cAroM dhyAna haiN| ve apane Apa hI hote haiN| dhyAna karanA nahIM hotA hai| praznakartA: dhyAna kise kahate haiM? dAdAzrI : sAMsArika kriyAe~ karate hue hI dhyAna hotA hai| aura Apako to eka jagaha para baiThakara dhyAna karanA par3atA hai na? praznakartA: haaN| dAdAzrI : vaha to ekAgratA kahalAtI hai| dhyAna to haraeka ko hotA hI rahatA hai| dhyAna kise kahate haiM? abhI koI Apako gAlI de ki 'ApameM akkala nahIM hai|' itanA hI bole to Apako raudradhyAna ho jaaegaa| vaha apane Apa hI ho jAtA hai, koI ukasAe to dhyAna utpanna ho jAtA hai| praznakartA : yaha dhyAna kisa taraha hotA hai? usakI 'sTeja' kaisI hai? dAdAzrI : kisIne kahA ki, 'Apane yaha saba ulTA kara diyaa|' usa samaya jo Apako aMdara asara ho jAtA hai, gussA AtA hai, vaha raudradhyAna hai| kabhI mana meM aisA ho ki, 'aba merA kyA hogA?' vaha ArtadhyAna / 'cInI para kaMTrola A gayA, cInI nahIM lAe haiM, aba kyA hogA?" vaha saba aartdhyaan| ArtadhyAna aura raudradhyAna roz2a hote hI rahate haiN| aura
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________________ (2) dhyAna AptavANI-4 dharmadhyAna to samajhA hI nhiiN| aura cauthA zukladhyAna, vaha to pratyakSa mokSa kA kAraNa hai| praznakartA : mana kI zAMti ke lie dhyAna karate haiM, vaha kyA hai? dAdAzrI : kauna-se dhyAna karate haiM? praznakartA : meDiTezana karate haiM na! dAdAzrI : vaha to saba mAdakatA hai, usameM bahuta phAyadA nahIM hai| praznakartA : to phAyadA kisameM hai? dAdAzrI : phAyadA to, khuda kA svarUpa jAneM ki, 'maiM kauna hU~?', tAki phira niraMtara zAMti, phira jeba kATa le yA cAhe jo ho phira bhI kucha nahIM hotA hai| praznakartA : eka jagaha para sthira baiThe binA dhyAna ho sakatA hai? dAdAzrI : dhyAna to calate-phirate, sAMsArika kriyAe~ karate hue hotA hI rahatA hai| loga rAta-dina ArtadhyAna aura raudradhyAna karate haiN| devagati meM jAne kA dhyAna bhI calate-phirate ho sakatA hai aura mokSagati meM jAne kA dhyAna bhI calate-phirate ho sakatA hai| dhyAna : dhyeya, dhyAtA kA saMdhAna praznakartA : dhyAna kA udbhavasthAna kyA hai? dAdAzrI : dhyAna kA artha kyA hai ki koI bhI dhyeya nakkI kare aura usake sAtha tAra jor3e, vaha dhyAna, jitane samaya taka tAra jur3A rahe, utane samaya taka dhyAna rahatA hai| Apane muMbaI jAne kA nakkI kiyA aura muMbaI kI TikiTa lI, taba gAr3I meM muMbaI kA dhyAna Apako sahaja rUpa se rahatA hI hai| dhyAna meM dhyAtA nakkI ho jAnA cAhie aura dhyeya nakkI honA caahie| Apa khuda dhyAtA aura nakkI kiyA huA dhyeya, ina donoM kA saMdhAna rahe, vaha dhyAna kahalAtA hai| dhyeya aura dhyAtA tanmayAkAra ho jAe~, use dhyAna kahate haiN| dhyAtA to Apa ho hI, dhyeya kI jagaha para Apane kyA rakhA huA hai? praznakartA : konsanTrezana karanA hai, use| 'sva' para hI karanA hai na? dAdAzrI : hA~, 'sva' para hI karanA hai| parantu 'sva' ko samajhe binA kisa taraha se hogA? 'sva' kyA hai, vaha samajhanA par3egA na? 'sva' pustaka meM nahIM hai, kisI zAstra meM likhA huA nahIM hai| zabdarUpa meM likhA huA hogA, parantu jo vAstava meM hai vaha to zabdarUpa meM nahIM hai| isalie Apa use kisa taraha nakkI karoge? praznakartA : sapoz2a karake nakkI nahIM hogA? dAdAzrI : ahamadAbAda jAnA hai aura sapoz2a karake uttara ke badale dakSiNa meM caleM to vaha sapoz2a kaise calegA? regyulara sTeja meM sapojizana honA caahie| sapoz2a usakI bAunDrI meM honA cAhie, AuTa oNpha bAunDrI nahIM honA caahie| ___ dhyAna to taba hogA ki dhyeya ke svarUpa meM pahacAnanA cAhie aura khuda dhyAtA svarUpa ho jAnA caahie| 'maiM caMdalAla ha~', usa prakAra se Apa dhyAtA bana jAte ho na? caMdUlAla to ApakA nAma hai| Apa dhyAtA kisa prakAra banate ho? praznakartA : 'maiM zuddhAtmA hU~' usa prakAra se| dAdAzrI : zuddhAtmA kauna hai lekina? usakA bhAna ho cukA hai Apako? praznakartA : nahIM, nahIM huA hai| dAdAzrI: to AtmA kA bhAna hue bagaira kaho to vaha sArI gappa kahalAtI hai| AtmA kA bhAna honA caahie| bhAna nahIM huA ho to bhI pratIti to baiThanI hI cAhie aura vaha pratIti bhI TUTe nahIM vaisI honI caahie| maiM
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________________ (2) dhyAna 25 AptavANI-4 zuddhAtmA hU~' vaha bhAna ho, taba se hI usakA dhyAna apane Apa rahA hI karatA hai, Apako karanA nahIM pdd'taa| jahA~ kucha bhI karane kA hai, vaha to saMyogoM ke adhIna hai| saMyoga hoM to hogA aura nahIM hoM to nahIM hogaa| aura yaha to zuddhAtmA kA eka bAra bhAna huA ki dhyAna apane Apa utpanna hotA hI hai| eka hIrA kisI jagaha para rakhA ho aura sirpha Apa akele hI jAnate hoM, to vaha Apake khayAla meM hotA hai ki isa jagaha para rakhA hai to ApakA dhyAna vahA~ rahA hI karatA hai! sasurAla meM baiThe hoM, taba bhI ApakA dhyAna vahIM hotA hai| bhUla jAe~ usa samaya pratIti ke rUpa meM hotA hai| nahIM to khayAla ke rUpa meM to hotA hI hai| dhyAna kA bhAI hI khayAla hai! ahaMkAra-dhyAna meM nahIM, para kriyA meM praznakartA : dhyAna mujhe kisa taraha karanA hai? ThIka se hotA nhiiN| mujhe sIkhanA hai| dAdAzrI : dhyAna Apa karate ho yA dUsarA koI karatA hai? praznakartA : maiM karatA huuN| dAdAzrI : kisI samaya nahIM ho pAe, vaisA hotA hai kyA? praznakartA : hA~, hotA hai| dAdAzrI : usakA kAraNa hai| jaba taka Apa caMdUlAla ho', taba taka koI kAma 'karekTa' nahIM hotaa| Apa caMdUlAla ho' vaha bAta kitane pratizata saca hogI? praznakartA : sau prtisht| dAdAzrI : jaba taka yaha 'roMga bilIfa' hai, taba taka 'maiMne itanA kiyA, aise kiyA', vaha igoiz2ama hai| jahA~-jahA~ karo, usake karttApana kA igoiz2ama hogA aura karttApana kA igoiz2ama bar3hegA, vaise-vaise bhagavAna dUra hote jaaeNge| yadi Apako paramAtmApada jAnanA ho to igoijama jAegA taba kAma hogaa| dhyAna yAnI kisIko Ae nahIM, vaha dhyAna hai| jo kiyA jAtA hai vaha ahaMkAra se hai| isalie vaha dhyAna nahIM kahalAtA, vaha ekAgratA kahalAtI hai| jahA~ ahaMkAra nahIM hotA hai, vahA~ dhyAna hotA hai| dhyAna ahaMkAra se nahIM ho sakatA hai| dhyAna to samajhane jaisI cIz2a hai, karane kI nhiiN| dhyAna aura ekAgratA meM bahuta pharka hai| ekAgratA ke lie ahaMkAra kI jarUrata hai| dhyAna to ahaMkAra se nirlepa hai| ahaMkAra ghaTe-bar3he, vaha Apake dhyAna meM rahatA hai yA nahIM rahatA? praznakartA : haaN| dAdAzrI : ahaMkAra bar3hA yA kama huA, vaha dhyAna meM rakhe, use dhyAna kahate haiN| ArtadhyAna aura raudradhyAna meM bhI ahaMkAra kAma meM nahIM aataa| praznakartA : dharmadhyAna meM ahaMkAra hai na? dAdAzrI : usameM bhI ahaMkAra nahIM hai| dhyAna meM ahaMkAra nahIM hai, kriyA meM ahaMkAra hai| praznakartA : raudradhyAna aura ArtadhyAna meM nimitta to ahaMkAra hI hai na? dAdAzrI : sirpha nimitta hI nahIM, parantu kriyA bhI ahaMkAra kI hai| kriyA, vaha dhyAna nahIM hai| para kriyA meM se utpanna honevAlA pariNAma, vaha dhyAna hai| aura jo dhyAna utpanna hotA hai, usameM ahaMkAra nahIM hai| ArtadhyAna ho jAtA hai, usameM 'maiM ArtadhyAna kara rahA hU~' aisA nahIM hotA, isalie dhyAna meM ahaMkAra nahIM hotaa| ahaMkAra 'kisI ora jagaha' para kAma meM Ae, taba dhyAna utpanna hotA hai| praznakartA : dhyAna meM ahaMkAra nahIM hai, kartA nahIM hai, to kisa taraha baMdhatA hai? dAdAzrI : ArtadhyAna hone ke bAda 'maiMne ArtadhyAna kiyA' aisA mAne, vahA~ kartA banatA hai aura usakA baMdhana hai| praznakartA : Apane kahA ki dhyeya nakkI ho jAe aura khuda dhyAtA
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________________ (2) dhyAna AptavANI-4 bana jAe taba dhyAna utpanna hotA hai, usameM ahaMkAra kI z2arUrata nahIM hai na? hai kyA? dAdAzrI : zukladhyAna ho na to kramika mArga meM karma nahIM hote, yaha to akrama mArga hai isalie hote haiN| vaha bhI use khuda ko karttApana se nahIM hote, nikAlI bhAva se hote hai| ye to karma khapAe binA 'jJAna' prApta huA hai na! dAdAzrI: usameM ahaMkAra ho yA nahIM ho| niraahaMkArI dhyAtA ho na to zukladhyAna utpanna hotA hai aura nahIM to dharmadhyAna hotA hai athavA Arta yA raudradhyAna hotA hai| praznakartA : yAnI dhyAtApada ahaMkArI hotA hai yA niahaMkArI hotA hai, para usake pariNAma svarUpa jo dhyAna utpanna hotA hai, usameM ahaMkAra nahIM hai! dAdAzrI : hA~ aura zukladhyAna pariNAma AegA taba mokSa hogaa| praznakartA : dhyeya nakkI hotA hai, usameM ahaMkAra kA bhAga hai kyA? dAdAzrI : dhyeya ahaMkAra hI nakkI karatA hai aura mokSa kA dhyeya aura dhyAtA niahaMkArI hai, isalie zukladhyAna kahalAtA hai| praznakartA : dharmadhyAna ke dhyeya meM ahaMkAra kI sUkSma hAjirI hai? dAdAzrI : hai| ahaMkAra kI hAz2irI ke binA dharmadhyAna hotA nahIM hai na! dhyAna ke pariNAma dhyAna kA phala AtA hai| raudradhyAna kA phala kyA hai? taba kahe. bhItara rAkSasI vRttiyA~ utpanna hotI hai| praznakartA : vRtti ke anusAra karma hoMge na? dAdAzrI : vaha ThIka hai, parantu pahale vRttiyA~ kahA~ se hotI haiM? dhyAna meM se| ArtadhyAna aura raudradhyAna, ve sabhI jAnavara meM yA narkagati meM jAe~, vaise dhyAna haiN| phira vahA~ para use ve karma bhogane par3ate haiN| praznakartA : 'zUTa eTa sAiTa' pratikramaNa karate haiM, vaha bhI eka prakAra kA dhyAna kA parivartana hI hai na? dAdAzrI : haaN| vaha dhyAna kA hI parivartana hai| praznakartA : 'zUTa' kiyA yAnI usane pudgala ko naSTa kiyaa| jo 'vyavasthita' meM thA usameM dakhala kiyaa| to dUsarA janma ho vaha kaisA AegA? dAdAzrI : vaha bhI, bilkula usake jaisA hI AtA hai| jo liMka hai, vaha vaisI kI vaisI hI AtI hai| praznakartA : jo 'zUTa' karake badala DAlatA hai, usakA itanA hI AyuSya hotA hai yA kama ho jAtA hai? dAdAzrI : vaha AyuSya usakA yahA~ para TUTa jAnevAlA thA, isalie usa ghar3I TUTane ke sAre 'sarakamasTenziyala eviDensa' mila jAte haiM aura AyuSya pUrA ho jAtA hai, laTU jhaTapaTa ghUma jAtA hai! praznakartA : Arta, raudra aura dharmadhyAna, vaha pudgala pariNati kahalAtI hai kyA? dAdAzrI : haaN| vaha pudgala pariNati kahalAtI hai aura zukladhyAna vaha svAbhAvika pariNati hai| praznakartA : yAnI zukladhyAna, vaha AtmA kA pariNAma kahalAtA hai kyA? dAdAzrI : haaN| praznakartA : zukladhyAna ho to usameM se jo karma hoMge ve acche hoMge aura dharmadhyAna meM ho to usase thor3I nicalI kakSA ke hoMge, vaha bAta ThIka
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________________ (2) dhyAna AtmadhyAna se hI samAdhi khuda ke svarUpa kA dhyAna, use dhyAna kahate haiN| dUsare dhyAna jo karane jAte haiM, ve to kauna-se gA~va le jAeMge usakA ThikAnA nhiiN| vaha to ekAgratA hai| bhagavAna ne kyA kahA hai ki, 'khicar3I kA dhyAna rakhanA, pati kA dhyAna rakhanA, nahIM to phira svarUpa kA dhyAna rkh|' usake sivAya dUsare dhyAna kA kyA karanA hai? isa samAdhi ke lie dUsare kyA dhyAna karane haiM? AtmA meM Ae to niraMtara samAdhi rahe, vaisA hai! ye dhyAna karane kA kahate haiM, baiThakara zvAsa U~cA-nIcA nikale usa para dhyAna rakhane ko kahate haiN| to jaba zarIra para jalana ho taba kiyA jA sakatA hai vaha dhyAna? nahIM, dhyAna dikhatA nahIM hai, zabda yA kriyAe~ dikhatI prArabdha-puruSArtha puruSArtha kise kahate haiM? dAdAzrI : Apa kyA puruSArtha karate ho? praznakartA : vyavasAya kaa| dAdAzrI : vaha to puruSArtha nahIM khlaataa| yadi khuda hI puruSArtha karatA ho to phAyadA hI lAe, para yaha to nukasAna bhI hotA hai na? vaha puruSArtha nahIM khlaataa| vaha to DorI lapeTI huI hai vaha khula rahI hai, use puruSArtha kaise kahA jAe? Apa puruSArtha karate ho taba phira nukasAna kyoM uThAte ho? praznakartA : vaha to vaisA bhI ho jAtA hai| kabhI nukasAna bhI hotA rAga-dveSa kama karane ke lie dhyAna kiyA jAtA hogA? rAga-dveSa kama karane ke lie vItarAga vijJAna jAnanA hai| nAA dAdAzrI : nhiiN| puruSArtha karanevAle ko to kabhI bhI nukasAna nahIM hotaa| yaha puruSArtha kiyA, aisA kauna bolatA hai? pUrA 'varlDa' 'TaoNpsa' (laTU) haiN| yaha to prakRti nacAtI hai vaise nAcatA hai aura kahatA hai 'maiM naacaa|' yaha itanA-sA hI 'zaoNka' (jhaTakA) deM, to haDDI aura saba bAhara nikala jaae| ye pustakeM par3hate haiM, zAstra par3hate haiM, vaha bhI puruSArtha nahIM hai| vaha saba naimittika puruSArtha hai| sacce puruSArtha ko koI samajhA hI nhiiN| 'maiM hU~, maiM hU~' karate haiN| are, saMDAsa jAne kI sattA nahIM aura tU hai laTU! yaha to zvAsa nAka se liyA jAtA hai| zvAsa lene kI bhI khuda kI zakti nahIM hai| aura eka ucchavAsa nikAlane kI bhI isa laTU meM zakti nahIM hai| yaha to kahegA ki, 'maiM zvAsa letA haiN|' phira rAta ko tU so jAtA hai, taba zvAsa kauna letA hai?
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________________ (3) prArabdha-puruSArtha 31 32 AptavANI-4 dAdAzrI : vaisA hI hai| ye khAne ke lie naimitika puruSArtha karanA par3atA hai, hAtha, mu~ha hilAnA par3atA hai| hama' dakhala nahIM kareM to dA~ta acchI taraha cabAe~ge, jIbha bhI acchI taraha rhegii| yaha to khuda sirpha dakhala hI karatA hai ki, 'khAne kA puruSArtha maiM karatA huuN|' jIbha yadi khAne kA puruSArtha karane jAe na to battIsa dA~toM ke bIca kitanI bAra caba jAe! paranta jIbha dakhala nahIM karatI aura aisA nahIM kahatI kai 'maiM paruSArtha kara rahI haiN|' bhojana ke samaya yadi mila meM puruSArtha (!) karane nahIM jAe, to khAne kI kriyA bahuta acchI taraha svAbhAvika ho aisA hai| yaha to mAtra 'dekhanA' aura 'jAnanA' hai| sabakucha svAbhAvika prakAra se calatA hI rahe aisA hai ! rAta ko Apa hA~DavA (gujarAtI vyaMjana) khAne ke bAda phira so jAte ho! to usake bAda use pacAne ke lie kyA puruSArtha karate ho? praznakartA : khurAka ke pAcana ke lie Age-pIche, ghUmanA-phiranA par3atA hai| tujhe jJAna hai na ki yaha nAka baMda kiyA to kyA hogA? yaha mazInarI isa taraha prabaMdhita hai ki vaha aMdara se zvAsa letI hai aura phira vahI mazInarI zvAsa pheMkatI hai| taba ye loga kahate haiM ki, 'maiM lambA zvAsa letA hU~ aura maiM choTA zvAsa letA hU~!' yaha to tujhe 'tU kauna hai?' usakA hI bhAna nahIM hai| yaha to DorI lipaTatI hai aura laTU ghUmatA hai, usameM 'maiM ghUmA' khegaa| varlDa meM saMDAsa jAne kI sattA bhI kisIko nahIM hai, hameM bhI nahIM hai| yaha 'puruSArtha, puruSArtha' karate ho, vaha jIvaMta kA hai yA mare hue kA? puruSa hue binA puruSArtha kisa taraha se hogA? Apa jise AtmA mAnate ho, vaha to nizcetana cetana hai| yaha puruSArtha kauna karatA hai? praznakartA : vaha to maiM hI karatA hU~ na! dAdAzrI : para 'maiM kauna?' yaha to 'maiM', vahI laTU hai na! aura laTU to kyA puruSArtha karanevAlA hai? aura yadi khuda puruSArtha kara sakatA ho to koI mare hI nahIM, para yaha laTU to kabhI bhI lur3haka jAtA hai| yaha laTU DaoNkTara se kahatA hai, 'sAhaba, mujhe bcaao|' are, DaoNkTara kA bApa mara gayA, mA~ mara gaI, unheM vaha nahIM bacA sakA to tumheM kyA bacAnevAlA hai vaha? DaoNkTara ke bApa ko gale meM kapha ho gayA ho to hama kaheM ki, 'Apa itaneitane oparezana karake peTa meM se gA~The nikAla lete ho, to yaha z2arA kapha hI nikAla lo na!' taba vaha kahegA ki, 'nahIM, aise karane se to ve khatma ho jaaeNge|' taba yaha gairajimmedArI se kahatA hai ki, 'maiMne bcaayaa|' are, arthI nahIM nikalanevAlI ho to aise bol| tU pahale terI arthI uThane se roka! yaha to jAne kahA~ mara jAoge! isalie bAta ko smjho| pAcana meM puruSArtha kitanA? yaha abhI nAztA yahA~ para AyA hai, use khAne meM kyA puruSArtha karanA par3atA hai? yadi isa khAne kI kriyA meM puruSArtha karanA par3atA ho to vaha aura jagat kA puruSArtha, donoM samAna hI haiN| khAne ke lie puruSArtha karanA par3atA hai? praznakartA : nhiiN| dAdAzrI : vaha kriyA pAcana ke lie nimitta hai aura so jAo taba zvAsocchvAsa acche calate haiM, isalie hI to manuSya phreza ho jAtA hai| Apa nIMda meM hoM, to bhI aMdara pAcana ke lie Avazyaka pAcakarasa, bAila, vagairaha milate hI rahate haiN| use calAne ke lie kauna jAtA hai? jaise aMdara kA apane Apa calatA hai, vaise hI bAhara kA bhI sabakucha apane Apa hI calatA hai| mAtra naimittika kriyA, prayatna vagairaha karanA par3atA hai| bAqI sabakucha 'vyavasthita' prakAra se hI prabaMdhita hotA hai| janma liyA taba se hI bhogavaTo (sukha-duHkha kA asara), mAna-apamAna, yaza-apayaza saba lekara hI AyA huA hai, para yaha ahaMkAra bAdhA DAlatA hai| jo kucha kriyA hotI hai, usameM khuda ko kartA mAnatA hai| isameM karane jaisA kyA hai? mAtra AtmA jAnanA hai| peTa meM hA~DavA DAlate haiM aura aMdara kadaratI saba kriyAe~ hotI haiN| usI prakAra bAhara saba kudaratI prakAra se calatA hai| kitanI khurAka, kitane kadama, kisa taraha calanA, kitanA calanA, saba apane Apa hI hotA rahatA hai| yaha to mAtra ahaMkAra karatA hai, akkalamaMdI karatA hai aura mAnatA hai ki khuda puruSArtha kara rahA hai| para puruSa hue binA puruSArtha nahIM hotaa| yaha to 'jJAnI
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________________ (3) prArabdha-puruSArtha 34 AptavANI-4 puruSa' alakha kA lakSya baiThAe, puruSa ho jAe, phira puruSArtha kara sakatA hai| loga kamara kasakara puruSArtha karane jAte haiM ki muMbaI meM aise karanA hai aura vaise karanA hai ! muMbaI to vahI kI vahI rahI hai, kitane hI seTha yoM hI mara gae! muMbaI kI AbAdI hai, taba taka koI kucha karanevAlA nahIM hai| kyoMki AbAdI ko rokane kI sattA nahIM hai aura barabAdI ko bhI rokane kI sattA nahIM hai| aura usameM loga puruSArtha karane nikale haiN| tU to ina saba bartanoM meM sirpha eka camacA hai| puruSArtha, vaha bhrAMta bhASA kA zabda hai, yaha saccI bhASA kA zabda nahIM hai| jaise ki Apa kahate ho, 'maiM unakA samadhI hotA hU~', vaha saccA zabda nahIM hai| vaise hI yaha bhASA alaga hai| jIvoM kA Urdhvagamana kisa taraha? praznakartA : jIva kauna-se puruSArtha se Upara AyA hai? dAdAzrI : vaha Apako smjhaauuN| ye hamAre yahA~ narmadA nadI hai, vaha patthara kI kagAra meM bhI bahatI hai aura miTTI kI kagAra meM bhI bahatI hai| jahA~ patthara kI kagAra ho vahA~ pAnI bahuta z2ora se bahatA hai aura pattharoM kI dhAra bhI tor3a detA hai| phira nadI meM koI itanA bar3A patthara giratA hai, koI itanA bar3A patthara giratA hai| usa samaya ke pattharoM kA konA yadi lage na to khUna nikale vaisA hotA hai| kyoMki tAjA TUTakara gire hue patthara dhAravAle hote haiN| ina jIvoM kA puruSArtha kyA hai, vaha maiM Apako smjhaauuN| isa nadI kA svabhAva kaisA hai ki vaha pattharoM ko bahAva meM aise khIMcakaravaise khIMcakara le jAtI hai| aise calatA hI rahatA hai| ve patthara phira aMdara hI aMdara TakarAte rahate haiM, TakarAte rahate haiN| isalie dasa-paMdraha mIla jAe~ taba mulAyama lagate haiM, cikane lagate haiM, ghisakara taiyAra kie hoM vaise mArbala jaise lagate haiN| para phira bhI ve Ter3he-mer3he hote haiN| phira yahA~ muhAne taka Ate-Ate aise gola ho jAte haiM ki unheM vahA~ para yAtrA meM kyA kahate haiM? 'bhAI, darzana karane ke lie ghara para zAligrAma lete aanaa|' ve gola ho cuke patthara hote haiM, unake loga darzana karate haiN| usI taraha se ye jIva-mAtra ghisate hI rahate haiN| kudarata ghasITatI hai aura TakarAtA hai, TakarAte-TakarAte gola ho jAtA hai! praznakartA : to phira kucha bhI nahIM karanA hai? dAdAzrI : kucha bhI nahIM karanA hai| vaha laTTa kyA karatA hai phira? saMDAsa jAne kI sattA nahIM, vahA~ vaha kyA kare? jo patthara TakarAte-TakarAte gola ho jAte haiM, taba loga use zAligrAma kahakara maMdira meM rakhate haiN| jitane zAligrAma ho cuke utane pUjA meM baiThe aura dUsare samudra meM gae! to vaisA yahA~ para hindustAna meM janma lene ke bAda patthara gola ho cukA hotA hai aura yadi 'jJAnI puruSa' mila gae aura samakita ho gayA to ve pUje gae aura bAkI saba gae samudra meM! samakita hue binA koI puruSArtha nahIM hai| samakita hone taka sArI hI akAma nirjarA (nae karma kA baMdhana hokara purAne karma kA asta honA) hai| ye loga mAnate haiM, vaha puruSArtha to bhrAMti kA hai| bhrAMti kA puruSArtha arthAt phira se janma lenA par3e, vaisaa| yaha Apako jo mArga batAyA ki kahA~ se patthara girate haiM, vaha vyavahAra kI Adi hai| avyavahAra kI Adi hI nahIM, vaha to anAdi hai| parantu vyavahAra kI Adi yahA~ se hotI hai| patthara nadI meM gire taba se| avyavahAra rAzi yAnI jahA~ abhI taka jIva kA nAma bhI nahIM par3A hai, vh| aura jahA~ se nAma par3A ki yaha gulAba, yaha mogarA, ye cIMTI, makor3e... ve saba jIva vyavahAra rAzi meM aae| kudaratI rUpa se dhakke khA-khAkara Age Ate haiN| TheTha anAja kI bAlI Ane taka kudaratI saMcAlana hai| praznakartA : usakA koI kAraNa hai kyA. ki koI patthara dariyA meM girA aura koI patthara zAligrAma huA? dAdAzrI : kAraNa kucha bhI nahIM, jise jo saMyoga mile ve! yaha 'dAdA' kA saMyoga milA to dekho na, Apa paramAnaMda meM rahate ho na! yaha saMyoga milA utanA hii| phira Apako dUsarA kucha karanA par3A hai? kyA carakhA calAnA par3A? nahIM to isa vyavahAra kA aMta kaba Ae? ye patthara aise nadI meM jAe~ taba eka sarIkhe hote haiM, vaise choTe-moTe jarUra hote haiM, para unheM alaga-alaga taraha se ghisatA kauna hai? taba kaheM,
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________________ (3) prArabdha-puruSArtha 'sAinTiphika sarakamasTenziyala eviDensa' Aja patthara yahA~ Akara baiThe hoM to agale sAla to usa tarapha hoNge| unheM to calanA bhI nahIM par3atA na hI kucha karanA par3atA hai aura zAligrAma bana jAtA hai to ina jIvoM kI patthara jaisI hI dazA hai! aura ye patthara hI haiM, inameM se AtmA nikAla deM to patthara hI haiM ! praznakartA: saMyogoM meM puruSArtha hai kyA? dAdAzrI : jo puruSa huA ho, vahI puruSArtha kara sakatA hai| kRSNa bhagavAna ne kahA hai ki, 'uddhavajI, abalA to kyA sAdhana kare?" jainoM ke sabase bar3e AcArya AnaMdaghanajI mahArAja kyA kahate haiM? ve kahate haiM, 'he ajItanAtha! Apa puruSa hue haiM kyoMki Apane krodha - mAna-mAyA-lobha ko jIta liyA hai isalie ajIta kahalAte haiM aura maiM to abalA hU~ kyoMki krodhamAna- mAyA-lobha ne mujhe jIta liyA hai!' aba itane bar3e AcArya apane Apa ko abalA kahate haiM, to auroM ko to kucha kahane ko rahA hI nahIM na! 35 ye sArI hI kriyAe~ mikenikala calatI hI rahatI haiN| vaha to gehU~ pakate rheNge| gehU~ bAz2Ara meM Ae~ge, ve pIse jAe~ge aura gehU~ kI breDa bnegii| vaha saba 'mikenikala' hotA rhegaa| mikenikala eviDensa meM to yaha saba ghaTamALa (zrRMkhalA yA cakra) haiM hI! to saccA puruSArtha kauna-sA ? vAstava meM to yathArtha puruSArtha caahie| prakRti kA nahIM, puruSa kA puruSArtha caahie| jagat meM prakRti kA puruSArtha calatA hai| yaha sAmAyika kiyA, pratikramaNa kiyA, dhyAna kiyA, kIrtana kiyA, vaha to prakRti kA puruSArtha ! jaba ki yathArtha puruSArtha to puruSa hokara kare, to hI yathArtha ko pahu~catA hai| ye 'dAdA', inhoMne 'jJAna' aura 'ajJAna' donoM ko pUrNata: alaga dekhA hai, vaisA hI Apako dikhAte haiM, taba puruSa, puruSa dharma meM A jAtA hai, phira prajJA saceta karatI hai| taba taka prAkRta dharma meM hI rahatA hai| praznakartA: saccA bhAva ho use puruSArtha kahA jAtA hai ? AptavANI-4 dAdAzrI : bhAvAbhAva- vaha karma hai, svabhAvabhAva vaha puruSArtha hai / svabhAvabhAva arthAt kisI cIz2a kA 'svayaM' karttA nahIM hai, svabhAvabhAva! usameM dUsarA koI bhAva nahIM hai| usameM to jJAtA dRSTA aura paramAnaMda hI rahatA hai! 36 svarUpajJAna ke bAda sabhI svabhAvabhAva meM Ate haiN| svayaM puruSa hone ke bAda cetana puruSArtha utpanna hotA hai| svAbhAvika puruSArtha utpanna hotA hai| aura jaba svayaM paramAtma puruSArtha meM AtA hai, taba svayaM hI paramAtma svarUpa ho gyaa| sabhI saMyoga ikaTThe hoM, tabhI 'rileTiva' kArya hotA hai| vaha 'vyavasthita' hai| jJAnI kyA kahate haiM ki isa bhrAMti ke puruSArtha meM the, aba svarUpajJAna prApti ke bAda 'riyala' puruSArtha meM laga jAo ki jahA~ saMyogoM kI z2arUrata nahIM hai| 'riyala' puruSArtha meM to kisI vastu kI z2arUrata nahIM rahatI aura 'rileTiva' puruSArtha meM mana-vacana-kAyA, sabhI saMyogoM kI z2arUrata pdd'egii| sva-puruSArtha kauna-sA ? pudgala pariNati meM kahIM bhI rAga-dveSa nahIM ho, vaha / phira mAra DAle to bhI rAga-dveSa nahIM ho| prArabdha karma kyA? saMcita karma kyA? praznakartA: 'nasIba' aura 'vyavasthita' meM kyA pharka hai? dAdAzrI : 'nasIba, laka-analaka, prArabdha- puruSArtha, takadIratadabIra' ve bhrAMta bhASA kI bAteM haiM, bAlabhASA ke zabda haiN| vaha bAlamaMdira kI bhASA hai, vaha jJAnamaMdira kI bhASA nahIM hai| jJAnamaMdira kI bhASA meM 'vyavasthita' hai| loga kahate haiM na 'prArabdha meM hogA to ho jAegA?' taba koI Apatti uThAe ki, 'puruSArtha kie binA kisa taraha hogA?' yAnI jJAna aisA honA cAhie ki koI Apatti nahIM uThAe / yaha to gappa hai, loga na to prArabdha samajhate haiM, na hI puruSArtha ko samajhate haiM ! bImAra par3A, vaha prArabdha karma nahIM hai| bhagavAna prArabdha karma kise kahate haiM ki yaha kucha bhI khAtA thA, vaha usake prArabdha karma se khA rahA thA, usakA phala ye maror3a uThe, vaha aayaa| khuda ko khAnA nahIM hotA, phira bhI khilAte haiM, vaha prArabdha karma aura maror3a uThate haiM vaha prArabdha karma kA phala hai|
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________________ (3) prArabdha-puruSArtha 37 AptavANI-4 praznakartA : khAte samaya use rokane ke lie kyA kareM? usa samaya prArabdhakarma yA saMcita karma hotA hai? dAdAzrI : pichale janma meM jo saMcita karma hoM, ve isa bhava meM prArabdha ke rUpa meM Ate haiM, isalie yaha khAU~ aura vaha khAU~', rahatA hai aura usameM phira khaTTA-tIkhA khAtA rahatA hai| isalie phira vAiTAliTI pAvara (roga pratirodhaka zakti) para z2ora par3atA hai, usase pAcana nahIM kiyA jA sktaa| isalie usa kacare ko eka jagaha para ikaTThA karatA rahatA hai| isa zarIra meM kucha bhAga aise haiM ki jinameM vAiTAliTI pAvara kacare ko pheMkatI hai| ye DaoNkTara use rez2a (kiraNeM) se jalA dete haiM, yA phira kucha khAsa prakAra kI davAoM se khatma ho jAtA hai| bhrAMta puruSArtha aura prArabdha karma isa saMsAra meM puruSArtha jise mAnate haiM, vaha puruSArtha hai hI nhiiN| aba itanI bar3I bhUla hindustAna meM cale, sabhI jagaha cale, to logoM kI kyA dazA hogI? 'puruSArtha aura prArabdha' ke bheda 'jJAnI puruSa' ke pAsa se samajha lene caahie| apane loga kise puruSArtha mAnate haiM? subaha uThA, vaha jaldI uThA' use puruSArtha kahate haiM, 'kala dera ho gaI aura Aja jaldI uThA' aisA kahatA hai| phira cAya pI lI, phira saMDAsa jAkara AyA, nahAyA-dhoyA aura jhaTa vyApAra ke lie claa| aura vyApAra meM pUrA dina baiThA rahA, use puruSArtha kahatA hai| para vaha to prArabdha hai| TenDara bharA, phalAnA kiyA, trikama sAhaba se mila AyA, phalAnI jagaha para jAkara AyA, yaha sabhI prArabdha hai| bhAgadaur3a karatA hai, dukAna kholatA hai, vaha bhI prArabdha hai| bolo aba, yaha pablika kyA samajhatI hogI prArabdha ko? jo prArabdha hai na use hI puruSArtha kahatI hai, to bolo aba puruSArtha kaba hotA hogA? samajhane jaisI bAta hai na! 'jJAnI puruSa' ke pAsa se prArabdha aura puruSArtha kA bheda samajha leM to hala aae| isa jJAna ke bAda prArabdha-puruSArtha 'Apako' nahIM rahate hai| Apa AtmasvarUpa ho gae isalie bilkula 'vyavasthita' hI hai| jagat ke logoM ke lie jagat 'vyavasthita' nahIM hai| kyoMki vaha khuda bhrAMtisvarUpa meM hai, isalie vaha dakhala kie bagaira rahatA nahIM hai| abhI cAya dera se AI ho to Apa 'vyavasthita' samajha jAte ho aura samabhAva se nikAla (nipaTArA) karake hala lAte ho, para dakhala nahIM karate ho aura vaha kyA karegA? praznakartA : zora macA degaa| dAdAzrI : hama loga to puruSa bane haiM, isalie puruSArtha hai| parantu jagat ke logoM ko binA puruSArtha kI bhUmikA nahIM hotI hai na? vaha bhrAMta puruSArtha kahalAtA hai, vaha bhI puruSArtha hai| para vaha bhI jAnanA cAhie na? bhrAMta puruSArtha se kramika mArga meM Age bar3hate haiM, mokSa kI or| aba jagat ke loga kaheMge ki, 'yaha dukAna khUba Age bar3hAI, vyApAra khUba jamAyA, maiM par3hA, maiM pahale naMbara se pAsa hotA huuN|' use hI puruSArtha kahate haiM, para vaha saba prArabdha hai| bhUla sudhAranI par3egI yA nahIM sudhAranI par3egI? praznakartA : sudhAranI pdd'egii| dAdAzrI : Apa nahIM sudhAro to clegaa| kyoMki Apako to 'vyavasthita' hAtha meM A gayA hai na! para loga to kaba samajheMge yaha?! puruSArtha kauna-sA kareM? sabakucha hI prArabdha hai, to puruSArtha kyA hogA? vaisA kacha samajhane kA vicAra AtA hai Apako? praznakartA : khayAla nahIM aataa| dAdAzrI : kala rAta ko Apane nizcita kiyA ki subaha jaldI uThanA hai aura dera se uThA gayA Apase, taba dUsare logoM ko aisA nahIM kahanA ki, 'Apa saba jAnate the ki mujhe gAr3I se jAnA hai, kyoM jaldI nahIM uThAyA?' aisI kalaha karane kI z2arUrata nahIM hai| hamane logoM se jaldI uThAne ko kahA hotA to bhI vaha usa samaya bhUla gayA hotaa| hameM kalaha karane kI koI jarUrata hai? dera se uThA gayA, vahI prArabdha hai| aba puruSArtha kyA karanA
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________________ (3) prArabdha-puruSArtha 39 AptavANI-4 nApAsa huA, vaha bhI praarbdh| ina zabdoM para se noTa karanA ki jitane saMyoga milate haiM ve sAre hI prArabdha haiN| subaha meM uThA gayA vaha saMyoga kahalAtA hai| sAr3he sAta baje uThA gayA to sAr3he sAta kA saMyoga kahalAtA hai, vaha prArabdha kahalAtA hai| praznakartA : eka vyakti mere lie kharAba bole. mere sAmane hI bole aura maiM usake lie samabhAva rakhakara puruSArtha karU~, to vaha vAstava meM prArabdha kahalAegA yA nahIM? hai hameM? nizcita kiyA ki jaldI uThanA hI cAhie, vaha puruSArtha hai vahA~ para! aura cAya zAyada phIkI Ae to mana meM nizcita karanA ki mere prArabdha ke AdhAra para cAya phIkI aaii| isalie kisIkA doSa nahIM hai| isalie vinatI karake cInI mA~ga lenA, nahIM to mA~ganI hI nahIM aisA nizcita kro| ina donoM meM se eka kro| hamane bhAva kiyA, vaha puruSArtha kahalAtA hai| para vaha 'rileTiva' puruSArtha kahalAtA hai| jaba ki 'riyala' puruSArtha kise kahA jAtA hai? pAriNAmika bhAva jise utpanna huA use 'riyala' puruSArtha kahA jAtA hai| ye loga pUre dina sAmAyika, pratikramaNa, japa-tapa, dhyAna, kriyA z2arUra karate rahate haiM, para saba nIMda meM karate haiN| use puruSArtha nahIM kahA jaataa| puruSArtha jAgatA huA vyakti karatA hai yA sotA huA karatA hai? praznakartA : jAgatA huaa| dAdAzrI : jagat to prArabdha ko hI puruSArtha kahatA hai| kucha thor3e, bahuta hI kama loga jAgRta hoNge| to aise loga kacha samajhate-jAnate hoMge ki aisA honA caahie| bAqI, prArabdha-puruSArtha kA bheda bhI nahIM smjhte| praznakartA : ye sArI bhUleM hI kahalAe~gI na? dAdAzrI : vAstava meM vaha bhUla nahIM huI hai, kisalie? vaha Apako smjhaauuN| prArabdha aura puruSArtha ke jo bheda pahale ke logoM ne DAle hue haiM, ve sahI kaba taka haiM ki jaba taka mana-vacana-kAyA kI ekatA ho| yAnI ki mana meM jaisA ho, vaisA hI vANI meM bole aura vaisA hI vartana meM kre| para isa kAla meM mana-vacana-kAyA kI ekatA TUTa gaI hai| isalie Aja prArabdha aura puruSArtha ke bheda galata Thaharate haiN| yaha kucha bilkula galata nahIM hai, parantu sApekSa hai| praznakartA : prArabdha kI bAta to samajha meM AI, para puruSArtha kI bAta ThIka se nahIM samajha meM aaii| dAdAzrI : saMyoga mile vaha prArabdha aura saMyoga ulTA Ae usa ghar3I samatA rakhanI, vaha puruSArtha hai| jo-jo saMyoga milate haiM, ve sabhI prArabdha haiN| Apa 'pharsTa klAsa' pAsa hue, vaha bhI prArabdha aura koI pharsTa klAsa dAdAzrI : nahIM, hama logoM ko saMyoga milatA hai vaha galata ho, hameM gAliyA~ de, vahA~ loga puruSArtha nahIM karate aura sAmanevAlA gAlI de, mu~ha car3hAe vaisA karate haiN| koI Apako gAliyA~ de, usa samaya Apako mana meM aisA ho ki yaha mere hI karmoM kA phala hai, sAmanevAlA to nimitta hai, nirdoSa hai| vaha bhagavAna kA AjJArUpI puruSArtha hai| usa ghar3I Apa samatA rakho, vaha puruSArtha hai| praznakartA : jinheM samyak darzana nahIM huA, vaise jagat ke logoM ke lie to yahI puruSArtha hai| dAdAzrI : hA~, jagat ke logoM ke lie vaha puruSArtha hai| vaha kaunasA puruSArtha hai? 'rileTiva' puruSArtha hai| kyoMki unheM saMsAra meM 'rileTiva' jJAna hotA hai| kucha sunane meM AtA hai, kucha pustaka meM par3hane meM AtA hai, vaha 'rileTiva' jJAna hotA hai| vaha 'rileTiva' jJAna kA pratApa barate use 'rileTiva' puruSArtha kahA jAtA hai| yahA~ para 'riyala' jJAna kA pratApa baratatA hai, to 'riyala' puruSArtha kahalAtA hai, jagat meM kucha loga to puruSArtha karate haiN| bilkula hI kahIM nApAka nahIM ho gae haiM, lagabhaga haz2Ara meM se dotIna loga nikaleMge, aise haiM z2arUra! parantu ve khuda pUrA-pUrA samajha nahIM sakate ki ise prArabdha kaheM yA puruSArtha kaheM! unase puruSArtha svAbhAvika rUpa se ho jAtA hai| para vaha khuda jAnatA nahIM ki isameM vaha kauna-se 'greDa' kI vastu hai aura 'yaha' kisa 'greDa' kI vastu hai? prArabdha aura puruSArtha meM to loga basa itanA hI jAnate haiM ki mujhe basa gyAraha baje jAnA hai, kyoM dera
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________________ (3) prArabdha-puruSArtha AptavANI-4 huI? kar3hI kyoM isa taraha Dhola dI? aisA kiyA aura vaisA kiyA?' are, kar3hI dula gaI to vaha saMyoga kahalAtA hai| isase se do bhAga alaga hue ki saMyoga aura viyoga do hI haiM saMsAra meN| jitane saMyoga haiM, utane viyoga hone hI vAle haiN| aura saMyoga jo huA, usameM samatA rakhanI, vaha purussaarth| koI phUla car3hAe taba aise chAtI phulAe to vaha puruSArtha nahIM khlaataa| svAbhAvika jo kucha bhI hotA hai, vaha prArabdha hai| phUla car3hAe~, taba hama aise paddhatipUrvaka raheM, vaisA puruSArtha pahale kabhI huA thA? praznakartA : nhiiN| maiM jAnatA hI nahIM thA ki yaha puruSArtha hai| dAdAzrI : isalie hama kahate haiM ki prArabdha aura puruSArtha ko smjho| aura jo puruSArtha hotA hai, use khuda jAnatA nahIM hai, vaha svAbhAvika hotA hai, vaha nIMda meM hotA hai| praznakartA : yaha jo prArabdha hai, vaha jaisA pichale janma meM cArja huA ho, usake anusAra hI prArabdha AtA hai? dAdAzrI : jo cArja ho cukA hai, vaha DiscArja hotA hai| vaha saMyoga svarUpa se DiscArja hotA hai| aura ulTA saMyoga milA ho, use sIdhA kara lenA, vaha puruSArtha hai| phisalane meM to harakoI phisalatA hai, usameM kyA puruSArtha kiyA kahalAegA? phisalane meM rukanA, vaha puruSArtha kahalAtA hai| yaha to bilkula a~dhe bhUta hokara TakarAte haiM aura apane Apa ko jAne kyA hI mAnate haiM ! yaha saba samajhanA par3egA na? galata bAta ko satya mAnA gayA hai, to usakA orachora kaba AegA? jisakA ora nahIM Ae, usakA chora AegA kyA? aura yaha 'vyavasthita' kA jJAna to saba logoM ke lie nahIM hai| kyoMki unake pAsa ahaMkAra hai na! aba ahaMkAra 'vyavasthita' ke tAbe meM hai aura vaha khuda kahatA hai ki maiM kara rahA hU~, isalie una donoM kA vahA~ para TakarAva hotA hai| 'vyavasthita' meM bhI dakhala karake balki sakha bigADatA hai| vaha ahaMkAra se yadi itanA dakhala nahIM karatA ho aura samatA se yadi puruSArtha karatA ho, to bahuta lAbhadAyaka ho jAtA hai| phira bhI 'usase' 'vyavasthita' to mAnA hI nahIM jaataa| 'vyavasthita' to zuddha hone ke bAda, 'AtmA' prApta hone ke bAda hI samajha meM AtA hai ! jagat hai hI 'vyavasthita' usameM do mata nahIM haiM, parantu jo ahaMkAra hai. vaha yadi 'vyavasthita' kahe to dakhala ho jAtA hai| isa prArabdha ko hI logoM ne itanA adhika ulTA kara diyA hai, vahA~ dUsare avalaMbana kI to bAta hI kyA? praznakartA : 'jJAnI puruSa' kI kRpA se prArabdha badalA jA sakatA hai? dAdAzrI : badala sakatA hai, para kisa taraha? bhugatane kA rasa bahuta kar3avA ho to vaha kama kar3avA ho jAtA hai| kar3avAhaTa kama ho jAtI hai. lekina bhugatane kA mUla nahIM jaataa| svarUpajJAna nahIM ho aura kisIke sAtha Apako krodha huA yA kisIne Apa para krodha kiyA to Apako sahaja rUpa se galata lagatA hai yA Dipresa ho jAte ho athavA to usa vyakti para gussA karate ho aap| aba usa samaya Apa yadi apanI pratikriyA badala deM, to use puruSArtha kahate haiN| use, jAgRta hai, aisA kahate haiN| jAgRti ho to hI puruSArtha kara sakegA na? sotA hai, isalie puruSArtha nahIM ho sktaa| ise bhAvanidrA kahA hai| yaha saba prArabdha hI hai| prakRti z2abaradastI nacAtI hai, prakRti utAvale ko utAvalA nacAtI hai, AlasI ko dhIre-dhIre nacAtI hai| aba utAvalA kyA kahatA hai ki, 'yaha prArabdhavAdI AlasI hai aura maiM puruSArthavAdI haiN|' vAstava meM terA utAvalA prArabdha hai aura isakA dhImA prArabdha bA~dhA huA hai| donoM saMyogAdhIna hai| dukAna acchI cale to puruSArthI mAnA jAtA hai aura nahIM cale to kahatA hai ki prArabdhavAdI hai| haqIqata meM aisA nahIM hai| prArabdha yAnI 'phrI oNpha kaoNsTa' cIz2a hai| puruSArtha yAnI Age le jAnevAlI cIz2a hai, vaha kamAI kI cIz2a hai| yAnI usane to saMyama khoyA. para Apane bhI saMyama khoyaa| isalie donoM adhogati meM jaaoge| aba Apa saMyama rakho to ApakI adhogati nahIM hogI, isa jagaha para phisala nahIM jaaoge| sAmanevAlA to phisalA, para Apa bhI phisalo to vahA~ puruSArtha kahA~ kahalAegA!
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________________ (3) prArabdha-puruSArtha 44 AptavANI-4 yaha prArabdha-puruSArtha bahuta samajhane jaisI vastu hai| kala thI vahI kI vahI prathA Aja ho, phira use puruSArtha kaise kahA jAe? phira bhI puruSArtha nahIM hai, vaisA nahIM hai| bahuta huA to haz2Ara meM se do-pA~ca logoM ko hogaa| pratizata ke hisAba se bahuta kama hote haiN| aura ve bhI phira jAnate nahIM ki yaha puruSArtha hai| ve to aisA hI samajhate haiM ki jo jaldI jA rahA ho use hI puruSArtha kahate haiN| hamAre loga puruSArtha to jaldabAjI karanI, haMgAmA karanA, bhAgadaur3a karanA, pUrA dina kabhI bhI phAlatU nahIM rahatA ho, use kahate haiN| 'bahuta puruSArthI vyakti hai, bahuta puruSArthI vyakti haiM' aisA kahate haiN| are, yaha laTU pUrA dina ghUmane ke lie hI janmA hai| use puruSArtha kaise kahA jAe phira? puruSArtha yAnI upayogamaya jIvana puruSArtha yAnI upagoyamaya jIvana / apane yahA~ zuddha upayoga hotA hai aura dUsarI jagahoM para zubha upayoga hotA hai| jo azubha ho cukA hai, para upayogapUrvaka use zubha kara dete haiN| yAnI jitane logoM kA saMyama dikhatA hai, vaha bhI svAbhAvika hai| vaha khuda jAnatA nahIM ki maiM puruSArtha kara rahA huuN| vaha usakI prakRti kA svabhAva hai| jo svAbhAvika hotA hai use puruSArtha nahIM kaha skte| puruSArtha hama jAnate haiM ki, yaha puruSArtha hai, dUsarA saba prArabdha hai, puruSa hone ke bAda kA puruSArtha, vaha saccA puruSArtha kahalAtA hai| yaha 'riyala' puruSArtha hai aura vaha 'rileTiva' puruSArtha kahalAtA hai| praznakartA : samatA aura saMyama meM pharka kyA hai? meM to tapanA hotA hai| koI kahegA ki, khurAka meM Apako saMyama nahIM hai| taba khurAka samAnupAta leM to saMyama ho jAtA hai aura tapa meM to mana ko tapAnA par3atA hai, jalAkara tapAnA par3atA hai aura apanA tapa to alaga hai| jJAna-darzana-cAritra aura tapa, vAlA tapa hai| apanA to, bAhara deha ko azAtA hotI hai, usa ghar3I hameM tapa karanA par3atA hai| kyoMki jaba taka pUraNa hai, vaha pUraNa, galana nahIM ho jAe, taba taka hameM tapa karanA pdd'egaa| zora macAe~ to kucha hogA? bhItara hRdaya lAla ho jAe, cIkha nikala jAe vaisA ho, vahA~ tapa karanA par3atA hai| tapa arthAt kyA? aMtima tapa kise kahate haiM? 'homa DipArTamenTa' aura 'faoNrena DipArTamenTa' ekAkAra nahIM ho jAe~, vahA~ jAgRti rahe, use tapa kahA hai bhagavAna ne! puruSArtha ulTA kare to ukhar3a bhI jaae| khuda 'hola enDa sola' (pUrNa rUpa se) risponsibala hai, jimmedAra hai| sIdhA karanA ho to sIdhA kara aura ulTA karanA ho to ulTA kr| ciMtA nahIM ho, vaisA yaha jJAna hai| ciMtA se loga sulaga jAte haiN| eka vyakti mujhe aise kaha rahA thA ki ciMtA nahIM hogI to mujhase kAma hI nahIM hogaa| isalie merI ciMtA rahane diijiegaa| maiMne use kahA ki, 'bahuta acchA, tU hamArA jJAna hI mata lenaa| satsaMga meM aise hI aanaa|' usake mana meM aisA ki ciMtA ho to hI yaha kAma hogA na, nahIM to kAma hI nahIM hogA na! vaha jAnatA nahIM ki khuda karatA hai yA koI aura karatA hai| use to aisA hI mAlUma hai ki maiM karatA hU~ yaha saba! dAdAzrI : saMyama, vaha puruSArtha hai aura samatA vaha to jJAna se utpanna honevAlA svabhAva hai| 'yama' ko bhI puruSArtha kahA hai, 'niyama' ko bhI puruSArtha kahA hai aura 'saMyama' ko bhI puruSArtha kahA hai| yaha dikhanevAlA saMyama nahIM hai| puruSArtha dikhatA nahIM hai kabhI bhI! praznakartA : saMyama aura tapa meM kyA bheda hai? dAdAzrI : donoM alaga hI haiN| saMyama meM tapanA nahIM hotA aura tapa 'vyavasthita' kI yathArtha samajha praznakartA : 'prArabdha' aura 'vyavasthita' una donoM meM kyA saMbaMdha hai? dAdAzrI : aise dekho to kucha bhI pharka nahIM hai, para logoM ne prArabdha kA ulTA artha kiyA, isalie hamane dUsarI bhASA meM bAta smjhaaii| parantu prArabdha kI tulanA meM 'vyavasthita' U~cA hai| 'vyavasthita' kyA kahatA hai ki tU terA kAma karatA jA, dUsarA saba phala vagairaha merI sattA meM hai| aura prArabdha kucha aisA nahIM kahatA, isalie 'vyavasthita', vaha kampalITa vastu hai| usa para AdhAra rakhakara calo to parezAnI nahIM aaegii| prArabdha saccI bAta thI,
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________________ (3) prArabdha-puruSArtha AptavANI-4 lekina ulTA hI AdhAra ho gayA, vahA~ para kyA ho? praznakartA : mujhe aisA lagatA hai ki prArabdha zabda hai vaha vyakti ko lakSya meM rakhakara hai aura 'vyavasthita' hai vaha samaSTi ko lakSya meM rakhakara hai| yaha ThIka hai? dAdAzrI : nahIM, vaisA nahIM hai, prArabdha vyakti ko lakSya meM rakhakara hai hI, para 'vyavasthita' to usase Age jAtA hai| prArabdha pahale ho jAtA hai, usake bAda phira vaha 'vyavasthita' hotA hai| vyavasthita' vyaSTi-samaSTi sabhI kA spaSTIkaraNa detA hai| 'vyavasthita' ke jJAna meM sArA hI spaSTIkaraNa maiMne de diyA hai| jagat kaisA hai? kauna calAtA hai? kisa taraha calatA hai? saba batA diyA hai| isalie batA diyA hai ki Apako hitakArI ho, Apako zAMti rahe, saMkalpa -vikalpa nahIM ho| kramika mArga meM vyavasthita' samajha meM nahIM aataa| kramika mArga TheTha taka ahaMkArI mArga hai, isalie 'vyavasthita' kahA hI nahIM jA sktaa| khuda kartA bane to 'vyavasthita' ko kartA eksepTa hI nahIM kregaa| unheM to aisA hI hai ki, 'maiM kartA huuN|' taba kaheM ki, 'Apa karttA the, to phira nukasAna kisa taraha huA?' taba kahatA hai ki, 'bhAI, prArabdha ke adhiin|' ve loga prArabdha aura puruSArtha donoM kahate haiN| Apako jJAna mile kitane varSa hue? praznakartA : tIna vrss| dAdAzrI : to tIna varSa meM Apako 'vyavasthita' meM koI bhUla lagI apane Apa cala rahA hai| isalie Apako parezAna hone jaisA hai hI nhiiN| ye bAla kaise apane Apa uga rahe haiM! mUMcha uga rahI hai ! tujhe jaba phreMcakaTa karavAnI ho taba krvaanaa| zAyada kabhI koI mUMche mUMDa de to tU ghabarAnA mt| aura usa mUMDanevAle para cir3hanA mata / ve to phira se A jaaeNgii| mUMche to mahInebhara meM phira se uga jaaeNgii| isalie ciDhane jaisA nahIM hai| beTA mara gayA to ciMtA mata karanA, 'vyavasthita' hai| nukasAna ho jAe to bhI ciMtA mata krnaa| phAyadA ho to tU uchalakUda mata krnaa| vaha sArA 'vyavasthita' karatA hai| ta to karatA nahIM hai| rAta-dina. saMdhyA-uSA. saba kaise niyama meM haiM, vaise hI mana kA bhI 'vyavasthita' ke tAbe meM hai| yaha to hamane sArA anAvRta kara diyA hai| aura itanA anAvRta karane ke lie hI bahuta lambe kAla kI hamArI khoja thI ki vAstava meM kyA hai? prArabdha kaheM to hama ArAma se so jAe~ge, parantu phira puruSArtha kahate ho, to jaldI uTheM yA sote raheM? arthAt yaha adbada mujhe pasaMda nahIM thaa| taba kyA haqIqata hai? taba hamane kahA, 'vyavasthita'! yAnI oNla rAiTa! yaha 'vyavasthita' kA jJAna dene ke bAda vyakti saMpUrNa jJAnI kI taraha hI raha sake vaisA hai| saMkalpa-vikalpa khar3e hI nahIM hote| inkamaTaiksavAle kI ciTThI AI ki Apako jurmAnA kiyA jAegA to hama turanta hI samajha jAe~ ki 'vyavasthita' hai| aura 'vyavasthita' meM hogA to vaha jurmAnA karegA na? nahIM to use saMDAsa jAne kI bhI zakti nahIM hai, to vaha aura kyA karanevAlA hai? jagat meM koI kucha kara sake, vaisA hai hI nhiiN| aura apanA 'vyavasthita' hogA to vaha bhI chor3anevAlA nahIM hai, to kisalie hama DareM? hamArA hai vaha hameM chor3anevAlA nahIM hai| usameM sAhaba becArA kyA kare? sAhaba to nimitta haiN| aura vaha sAhaba ke sAtha baira bhI rakhatA hai ki, sirpha yaha sAhaba hI aisA hai, vaha kaba se mere pIche paDA hai| are, sAhaba tere pIche nahIM par3ate, terA karma tere pIche par3A hai| yAnI ye loga binA samajhe baira hI bA~dhate haiM na balki ! praznakartA : nahIM, z2arA bhI nahIM lgii| dAdAzrI : hari meM to zaMkA par3atI hai ki hari ne aisA kisalie kiyA? hari nAma kA koI hai hI nahIM, vahA~ pr| yaha to AsarA hai| saMta puruSoM kA diyA huA zabda, ina logoM ko AdhAra to cAhie na? yaha to apanA akramavijJAna hai, isalie 'jaisA hai vaisA' jagat kaha diyA ki itanA jaba taka khuda kartA banatA hai, taba taka 'kauna kartA hai' vaha samajha meM nahIM aataa| aura kauna kartA hai, vaha samajha meM A jAe, to khuda kartA
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________________ AptavANI-4 (3) prArabdha-puruSArtha nahIM rhegaa| dekho, Apako kucha bhI nahIM karanA par3atA na? praznakartA : nhiiN| dAdAzrI : kramika mArga yAnI ahaMkAra to hai hI aura usake sAtha hari kI icchA, una donoM kA mela kisa taraha ho? isalie mahAvIra bhagavAna ne kaha diyA ki vyavahAra kA tU kartA hai| yadi ta ahaMkArI hai to ta hI kartA hai aura yadi tU niahaMkArI hai to 'vyavasthita' kartA hai| praznakartA : dAdA, yadi hari ko kartA kaheM, to khuda ko akartA samajhakara nahIM raha sakate? dAdAzrI : nahIM, khuda kabhI bhI akartA banegA kisa taraha? akartA bane to tyAga kisa taraha kiyA jAe? 'hari icchA' to khada ke mana ke samAdhAna ke lie hai ki yaha pyAlA gira gayA to vaha 'hari icchA' ke adhIna hai, aisA kaha detA hai| bAkI hari nAma kA koI hai hI nahIM, vahA~ para kaisI 'hari icchA'? apane kAma meM kisIko daqhala karane kA adhikAra kyA hai? mere kAma meM bhalA hari ko kisalie icchA karanI par3e? vaha kyA UparI (baoNsa, variSTha mAlika) hai merA? para dekho na, abhI taka yaha polampola calI hI hai na? 'jJAnI puruSa' to kisIkA avalaMbana nahIM lete haiN| kucha loga udayakoM kA phala hai kahate haiN| hamane to, yaha 'vyavasthita' itanA acchA diyA hai ki Apako z2arA bhI muzkila nahIM pdd'e| aura 'vyavasthita' dekhakara Apako diyA hai| pUrA sau pratizata 'vyavasthita' hai! nahIM to Apa ulTe raste car3ha jaaoge| hama kyA kahate haiM ki, jagat ke saMbaMdha meM 'vyavasthita' hai| tujhe maiMne jo diyA hai, vaha aba terA calAtA rhegaa| tU aba puruSArtha dharma meM rh| taba koI pUche ki, sAhaba merA calegA yA nahIM calegA? are, 'vyavasthita' hai, isalie tU usa tarapha dekhanA mt| yaha zarIra, mana, vacana sabhI usake basa meM hai| tU to, zarIra jo karatA hai use dekhatA rh| ye caMdUbhAI kyA karate haiM, use Apa dekhate rho| aura tU hamArI pA~ca AjJA pAlatA rh| bolo, itanA AsAna, sarala prakAra se diyA hai yA nahIM? praznakartA : ina pA~ca AjJA meM rahanA, vaha puruSArtha kahalAtA hai? dAdAzrI : hA~, AjJA meM rahanA vahI puruSArtha hai, vahI dharma aura vahI tp| AjJA meM sabhI A gyaa| phira aura kacha bhI karanA nahIM hai| yadi jJAnI mila jAe~ to unakI AjJA meM hI rahanA hai| bhAgya bar3A yA puruSArtha? praznakartA : bhAgya bar3A yA puruSArtha bar3A? dAdAzrI : bhAgya ko aura puruSArtha ko jo pahacAne 'vaha' bar3A! use loga pahacAnate nahIM haiN| Apa kise puruSArtha samajhate ho? Apako bhAgya kA anubhava huA hai? praznakartA : maiM to, sabakucha bhAgya se hI hotA hai, aisA mAnatA huuN| dAdAzrI : puruSArtha kahA~ dekhA Apane? praznakartA : roz2a ke rUTIna meM hotA hai vaha puruSArtha hai| dAdAzrI : prArabdha kauna-sA? praznakartA : camatkAra jaisA ho, taba Apake darzana hue use bhAgya mAnatA huuN| dAdAzrI : aura yahA~ Apa Ae vaha puruSArtha kahalAtA hai? praznakartA : hA~, vaha puruSArtha kahalAtA hai| dAdAzrI : yAnI prArabdha aura puruSArtha meM bheda kA hI logoM ko patA nahIM cltaa| yaha bhrAMti se aisA kahate haiN| bhrAMti eka dRSTi hai na?! usa bhrAMta dRSTi se aisA dikhatA hai ki yaha prArabdha aura yaha puruSArtha / vAstava meM puruSArtha dikhatA hI nhiiN| yaha jo dikhatA hai, vaha sArA hI prArabdha hai| puruSArtha to hotA rahatA hai, usakA khuda ko patA bhI nahIM cltaa| yadi puruSArtha dikhe, taba to sabhI use mor3a deN| praznakartA : puruSArtha kisa taraha hotA hai? dAdAzrI : puruSArtha aMdara ho rahA hai, jise bhAvapuruSArtha kahate haiN| aba
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________________ (3) prArabdha-puruSArtha AptavANI-4 bhAva, loga bolate to jarUra haiM, para samajhate nahIM haiN| dravya sArA prArabdha hai aura bhAva puruSArtha hai| praznakartA : jo karma karate haiM, vaha bhAgya se hotA hai yA karma se bhAgya hotA hai? dAdAzrI : bhAgya se karma hotA hai, para karma hotA hai usameM bhAva ho jAtA hai usakA patA nahIM calatA, vahA~ para usa ghar3I aMdara sUkSma rUpa se puruSArtha calatA hI rahatA hai| ve 'kaoNz2ez2a' haiM aura ye saba 'iphekTsa ' haiN| sabhI iphekTsa prArabdha haiN| Apa yahA~ Ae - vaha prArabdha, yaha pachA - vaha prArabdha, yaha suna rahe ho - vaha prArabdha aura puruSArtha to aMdara ho rahA hai| isalie janma se maraNa taka sabakucha hI anivArya hai| jo anivArya hai, vaha saba prArabdha hai| isalie zAdI kie bagaira cArA nahIM hai, vidhavA-vidhura hue bagaira cArA nahIM hai, par3he bagaira cArA nahIM aura naukarI-vyavasAya kie bagaira cArA nahIM hai| koI nyAya se vyApAra kare to ulTA calatA hai aura anyAya se kare to acchA calatA hai, vaha sArA hI prArabdha hai| sthUla bhAga sArA hI prArabdha hai aura sUkSma bhAga hai, vaha puruSArtha hai| praznakartA : jo bhAgya hotA hai, vaha badalatA rahatA hai yA vaise kA vaisA hI rahatA hai? karma acche hoM to bhAgya badalatA hai kyA? dAdAzrI : acche karma karane se jo dikhane meM badalA huA lagatA hai ki aisA kiyA to aise baca gayA, vaha vAstava meM to vaisA bhAgya meM thA isalie hI vaisA huaa| yoM hI nhiiN| isalie yaha saba prArabdha hI hai, vaha badalatA nahIM hai| praznakartA : manuSya U~ce karma kare to bhI use duHkha ho, vaha bhugatanA to par3egA na? dAdAzrI : U~ce karma hoM to bhI duHkha nahIM bhoge to jAe~ kahA~? du:kha to sabhI bhugatane hI haiN| zAtA vedanIya aura azAtA vedanIya donoM hote haiN| beTI kI zAdI karavAe~ taba zAtA vedanIya hotI hai, phira zAdI karane ke bAda jamAI paise mA~gane Ae, usa ghar3I azAtA vedanIya utpanna hotI hai| bAhara kI zAtA-azAtA 'vyavasthita' ke adhIna hai aura aMdara kI zAtA rahe, vaha puruSArtha hai| kramika mArga, bhrAMta puruSArthAdhIna prArabdha arthAta kyA? apane hAtha kI sattA nahIM hai| vaha parasattA hai, phira bhI hama hamArI sattA mAneM vaha puruSArtha hai| maiMne aisA kiyA, vaisA kiyA, kartA nahIM hai, phira bhI Aropita bhAva rakhe, vaha sArA puruSArtha hai, vaha bhrAMta puruSArtha kahalAtA hai| aura 'maiM kartA nahIM hU~' aisA bhAna huA taba se bhrAMta puruSArtha baMda ho jAtA hai aura phira mokSa kA puruSArtha zurU hotA hai|| praznakartA : 'maiM kartA nahIM hU~' usa prakAra kA bhAva Ae, vaha bhI phira bhAgya meM ho tabhI hotA hai na? dAdAzrI : vaha bhAgya meM ho to hI hotA hai| phira bhI bhAgya kA hI hai, aise boleM to nahIM clegaa| AtmA prApta ho jAne ke bAda yathArtha puruSArtha zurU hotA hai| nahIM to bhrAMta puruSArtha to hai hI na! bhrAMti kA bhrAMta puruSArtha cala rahA hotA hai aura jJAna kA jJAna puruSArtha cala rahA hotA hai| jJAna puruSArtha mokSa meM le jAtA hai aura bhrAMta puruSArtha yahA~ saMsAra meM bhaTakAtA hai| praznakartA : prayatna, prArabdha aura puruSArtha ye tInoM eka hI haiM? dAdAzrI : prArabdha aura prayatna to eka hI vastu hai| donoM eka hI mA~-bApa ke bacce haiN| aura kharA puruSArtha to kise kahA jAegA? milAvaTa nahIM ho, use| vaha binA milAvaTavAlA hotA hai| sacce puruSArtha meM kisIkA avalaMbana nahIM caahie| vaha to jaba bhI karanA ho taba ho sakatA hai| aura saMsAra meM kahe jAnevAlA yaha puruSArtha to, paira acche hoM to sTezana jAyA jA sakatA hai| sira bhArI nahIM ho to ThIka se bar3hatA hai Age, yAnI parAdhIna kahalAtA hai yaha sb| sApekSa, apekSAvAlA kahalAtA hai aura puruSArtha nirapekSa hotA hai| yadi yathArtha puruSArtha meM A gayA, taba to sabhI bAtoM kA hala A jAtA hai| praznakartA : maiM kramika mArga meM thA, Aja akrama mArga kI ora merA
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________________ (3) prArabdha-puruSArtha dhyAna mur3a gyaa| to vaha merA puruSArtha mAnU~ yA bhAgyodaya mAnU~ ? dAdAzrI : vaha Apake puNya kA udaya khlaaegaa| bhAgya kA udaya Apako yahA~ lekara aayaa| phira hamane Apako jJAna diyaa| yAnI Apa puruSa hue aura puruSa hone ke bAda puruSArtha zurU huaa| jaba taka 'maiM kara rahA hU~', taba taka puruSArtha nahIM khlaataa| AtmA kA jJAna huA yAnI AtmA 'dekhanAjAnanA' sIkha gyaa| 'hama' 'jJAtA' aura 'caMdUlAla ' 'jJeya', itanA jAna liyA, taba se puruSArtha zurU huA ! 51 AtmA aura prakRti do hI haiN| prakRti pUrI prArabdhAdhIna hai| ye kriyAe~ hone se bhAva apane Apa kudaratI prakAra se utpanna hote haiN| ye bhAva to AnevAle bhava kA puruSArtha haiN| para usakI logoM ko khabara nahIM hai ki ise bhrAMta puruSArtha kahA jAtA hai! agale bhava kA jo cArja karatA hai vaha bhrAMta puruSArtha aura dUsarA saba prArabdha hai| bhAva to hote hI haiM na? vivAha karanA hai, vaha bhAva to karanA par3atA hai na? pUrvabhava ke bhAva se abhI hameM icchAe~ hotI haiM, arthAt bhAva cArja kiyA thA isalie yaha aayaa| yAnI bhAva ko puruSArtha kahA aura dravya ko prArabdha kahA jAtA hai| parantu loga to unakI bhASA meM dravya ko hI puruSArtha kahate haiM aura vaha bhAvapuruSArtha to samajha meM hI nahIM aataa| yahA~ akrama mArga meM dravya aura bhAva donoM ko DiscArja svarUpa meM rakha diyA hai| kramika mArga bhAva ke adhIna hai| akrama mArga meM to hama svabhAva meM A gae, isalie bAqI saba parabhAva haiN| hamane bhAva ko eka ora rakha diyA aura dravya kA samabhAva se nikAla karane ko kahA hai| praznakartA: jaba taka khuda ko jAne nahIM, taba taka puruSArtha kiyA kahA hI nahIM jAegA? dAdAzrI : kharA puruSArtha huA nahIM kahA jAegA, para bhrAMti kA puruSArtha to hogaa| yadi mana-vacana-kAyA kI ekAtmavRtti ho, taba bhrAMti ke puruSArtha meM se bIja par3atA hai| vaha vyavahAra puruSArtha kahalAtA hai| mana meM jaisA ho, vaisA vANI meM bole aura vaisA hI vartana meM rakhe aura zubha meM par3e to vyavahAra 1 AptavANI-4 puruSArtha se phAyadA hotA hai| aura aise karate-karate 'riyala' ke lie yoga mila jAtA hai| isalie zubha kI prazaMsA kI gaI hai| yaha bhrAMta puruSArtha eka prakAra kA puruSArtha hI kahalAtA hai| ise bhrAMta puruSArtha kisalie kahA jAtA hai, vaha Apako smjhaauuN| kramika mArga aisA hai ki yadi use kaheM ki tU japa karane baiTha jA, to vaha japa karane baiThatA hai| vaha jApa prArabdha se hotA hai, para usa samaya bhItara jo bhAva karatA hai, usase vApisa agale janma kA bIja DalatA hai, vaha puruSArtha kahalAtA hai| isalie prArabdha bhogate samaya bhItara puruSArtha utpanna hotA hai| prArabdha bhogate samaya bhItara puruSArtha kA bIja DalatA hai| kyoMki 'maiM kartA hU~' yaha bhAna hai islie| nahIM to prArabdha bhogate hue bIja nahIM DaleM aura mokSa meM jaae| parantu karttAbhAva hai, isalie prArabdha para, kriyAoM para bahuta z2ora dete the| kyoMki unake sAtha puruSArtha apane Apa hotA hI rahatA hai| 52 Aja to vaha kramika mArga phrekcara ho gayA hai| japa karane baiThA ho to japa karatA jAtA hai aura mana meM bhAva karatA jAtA hai ki, 'mere phAdara nAlAyaka haiM, mere phAdara nAlAyaka haiM... mujhe parezAna karate haiN| merA tela nikAla dete haiN|' isalie mana meM alaga, vANI meM alaga aura vartana meM alaga hI prakAra kA hotA hai| nahIM to abhI taka kramika mArga kaisA thA ki prArabdha bhogate hue puruSArtha karo aura akrama mArga yAnI kyA? sIdhA 'DAyarekTa' puruSArtha / 'jJAnI puruSa' kI kRpA se puruSa hokara puruSArtha utpanna ho jAtA hai| saMpUrNa jAgRti meM A jAtA hai, ekadama ujAlA ho jAtA hai ! phira eka sekanDa bhI ApakA 'svarUpa' nahIM bhUlate ho Apa ! prArabdha, kisa taraha udaya meM AtA hai? praznakartA para puruSArtha kareM, tabhI prArabdha AegA na? : dAdAzrI : vaha puruSArtha nahIM hai| vaha naimittika prayatna hai| naimittika prayatna Apa karate jaao| praznakartA: vaha prArabdha kA hI naimittika karma hai? dAdAzrI : vaha prArabdha ke AdhAra para hI honevAlA hai| prArabdha kI
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________________ (3) prArabdha-puruSArtha AptavANI-4 nahIM aura banAvaTI lekara jAe~ to kauna paise degA? puruSArtha kise kahate ho Apa? hI preraNA se honevAlA hai| praznakartA : prArabdha arthAt kyA? dAdAzrI : prArabdha yAnI pichale janma meM bhAvakarma bA~dhA huA hotA hai| aba vaha bhAvakarma jAe 'kampyUTara ke pAsa, yAnI ki samaSTi meM jAtA hai aura samaSTi meM phira kudarata use milatI hai, dUsare saba kudaratI kAraNa bhI mila jAte haiM aura yahA~ para hameM rUpaka ke rUpa meM prApta ho jAtA hai| vyavasthita' zakti hameM rUpaka ke rUpa meM detI hai| phira vaha uThAe to hameM uThanA hai aura calAe vaise calanA hai| kharAba vicAra bhI usake mAdhyama se hote haiN| acche vicAra bhI usake mAdhyama se hote haiN| yaha bahuta sUkSma bAta hai| praznakartA : abhI jo prArabdha hai, vaha apane pUrvabhava ke bhAvoM kA phala hai? dAdAzrI : hA~, vaha pUrvabhava ke bhAvoM kA phala hai aura abhI jo naye bhAva utpanna ho rahe haiM, ve agale bhava kA kAraNa hai| praznakartA : naye bhAva utpanna hote haiM, ve isI bhava meM phala nahIM deMge? praznakartA : dharma aura mokSa ke lie jo kriyAe~ kareM, vaha puruSArtha ! dAdAzrI : vaha puruSArtha nahIM khlaataa| vaha to hitakArI kiyA kahA jAtA hai| aura usake alAvA jo-jo kareM, vaha sArA ahitkaarii| yaha to hitakArI aura ahitakArI huA, para puruSArtha kise kahate haiM? hama jo kareM, vaha saphala ho jAe, vaha puruSArtha hai| praznakartA : koI kahe ki hama zrama kareM to hI prArabdha milegA aura koI kahe ki prArabdha ho to hI zrama karane kA maukA milegaa| isameM saccA kyA hai? dAdAzrI : ina A~khoM se jo-jo dikhatA hai, kAnoM se jo-jo sunA jAtA hai, nAka meM jo-jo sugaMdha AtI hai, jIbha se jo-jo cakhA jAtA hai. camaDI se jo-jo sparza hotA hai, ina pA~ca indriyoM ke jJAna se jo-jo anubhava meM AtA hai, vaha sArA hI prArabdha hai| bolo, aba aisI bAta kisa taraha samajheM loga? praznakartA : to puruSArtha kI z2arUrata to hai hI na? dAdAzrI : nahIM, kucha nahIM phlegaa| naye bhAva haiM, ve kaoNjez2a haiM aura kaoNz2ez2a kA agale janma meM iphekTa hotA hai| isalie 'kaoNz2ez2a aura iphekTa, iphekTa aura kaoNjeja' aise calatA hI rahatA hai| anaMta janmoM taka calatA hI rahatA hai ! jaba taka 'jJAnI puruSa' kaoNz2ez2a baMda nahIM kara deM, bhAvakarma kA kartA baMda nahIM ho jAe, taba taka yaha cakra calatA hI rahatA hai! saphala ho vaha puruSArtha praznakartA : dRr3ha puruSArtha se prArabdha ko badalA jA sakatA hai? dAdAzrI: sirpha puruSArtha hI ho to use badalA jA sakatA hai. para puruSArtha kise kaheM, vaha jAnanA par3egA na? jAne binA kyA kAma hogA? ina noToM meM eka saccA ho aura dUsarA banAvaTI ho, usameM sacce ko hama pahacAneM dAdAzrI : vAstava meM yaha saba prArabdha hI hai| saccA puruSArtha logoM ko samajha meM nahIM AyA, isalie bhrAMta puruSArtha DhUMDha nikaalaa| bhrAMta puruSArtha yAnI 'ilyujana' (bhrAMti) jaisA ! puruSArtha DhUMDhI jA sake, vaisI vastu nahIM hai| puruSArtha yadi DhUMDhA jA sake na to kala sAre hI loga puruSArtha karake mokSa meM cale jAe~! para ye to prArabdha ko hI badalate rahate haiM, isalie inakI mehanata bekAra jAtI hai| jaba ki maiM vaha AsAnI se batA detA hU~, isalie unakI mehanata phalatI hai| puruSArtha to vaha kahalAtA hai ki jo saphala ho, nahIM to anaMta janmoM taka siraphoDI kare to bhI kucha hogA nhiiN| kyoMki ajJAnI kI siraphor3I! ajJAnI se ajJAna kabhI bhI jAtA nahIM hai|
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________________ 56 AptavANI-4 (4) zraddhA aMdhazraddhA-ajJazraddhA eka bar3e phArma suprinTenDanTa the| ve mujhe kahate haiM ki hama aMdhazraddhA nahIM rkhte| unakI yaha bAta hamane noTa kara lii| phira hama sAtha meM phArma meM ghUma rahe the| bIca meM pacAsa phuTa kA kheta aayaa| usameM bahuta U~cI ghAsa thii| use pAra karate samaya ve bhAI cAra-cAra phuTa lambI chalA~ga mArakara pAra nikala ge| maiMne unheM pUchA, 'isa ghAsa meM sA~pa hai yA bicchU hai, vaisA Apa jAnate nahIM the to kisa AdhAra para Apa paira rakha rahe the?' kaisI jabaradasta aMdhazraddhA hai! aMdhazraddhA ke binA to khAnA bhI nahIM khAyA jA sakatA, sTImara meM baiThA nahIM jA sakatA aura TaiksI meM bhI nahIM baiThA jA sktaa| kauna-sI zraddhA se TaiksI meM baiThate ho? eksiDenTa nahIM hogA usakI Apako zraddhA to nahIM hai! are, ghara para pAnI pIte ho, to usameM chipakalI girI yA koI jIvajaMtU girA yA kisI par3osI ne khaTamala mArane kI davAI DAla dI hai yA nahIM, usakI jA~ca karate ho? yAnI aMdhe vizvAsa ke binA to ghaDIbhara bhI cale vaisA nahIM hai| Apa jise aMdhazraddhA kahate ho yA samajhate ho, vaha aMdhazraddhA nahIM hai, ajJazraddhA hai| pUrA jagat ajJazraddhA meM hai| choTA baccA gaDe-gur3iyoM se khelatA hai, vaha ajJazraddhA hai, vaise hI dharma meM bhI ajJazraddhA hotI hai| sirpha svayaM khuda 'jJAnI puruSa' hI aMdhazraddhA rahita hote haiM, phira bhI deha aMdhazraddhA meM hotA hai| abhI hama bhI ghara jAkara binA jA~ca kie pAnI pIe~ge, para hameM deha kA mAlikIbhAva nahIM hotaa| AtmazraddhA-prabhuzraddhA praznakartA : AtmazraddhA aura prabhuzraddhA, una donoM meM kyA pharka hai? dAdAzrI : prabhuzraddhA meM prabhu alaga aura maiM alaga, aise judAI mAnI jAtI hai aura AtmazraddhA to khuda svayaM AtmA hokara AtmA kI bhakti karanA, vh| yaha pratyakSa bhakti aura vaha parokSa bhakti kahalAtI hai| jise AtmAnubhava nahIM huA, ve jinheM prabhu kahate haiM, ve hI unakA AtmA haiM, parantu usakI use khabara nahIM hai| isalie prabhu ke nAma se ArAdhanA karate haiM, parantu parokSarUpa se unake hI AtmA ko pahu~catA hai| zraddhA-jJAna praznakartA : zraddhA ke binA jJAna ho sakatA hai yA nahIM? dAdAzrI : yaha ajJAna bhI zraddhA ke binA nahIM hotA hai| zraddhA, vaha 'kaoNz2ez2a' haiM aura jJAna 'pariNAma' hai| yaha svarUpajJAna hone ke bAda kaisA bana jAnA cAhie? zraddhA kI pratimA bana jAnA cAhie! dekhate hI zraddhA aae| zraddhA kI pratimA kabhI hI prakaTa hotI hai!
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________________ AptavANI-4 (5) abhiprAya abhiprAyoM kA a~dhApana koI tInapattIvAlA (tAza khelanevAlA) yahA~ para AyA ho aura ApakA usa para abhiprAya baiTha gayA ho ki 'yaha tInapattIvAlA hai' to vaha yahA~ para baiThA ho, utanI dera Apako aMdara khaTakatA rhegaa| dUsare kisIko nahIM khaTakegA, usakA kAraNa kyA hai? praznakartA : dUsare jAnate nahIM ki 'yaha tInapattIvAlA hai', islie| dAdAzrI : dUsare jAnate haiM, para abhiprAya nahIM baiThAte aura Apako abhiprAya baiTha gayA hai, isalie khaTakatA hai| ye abhiprAya Apako chor3a dene caahie| ye abhiprAya hamane hI bA~dhe haiM, yAnI yaha hamArI hI bhUla hai, isalie ye khaTakate haiN| sAmanevAlA aisA nahIM kahatA ki mere lie abhiprAya baaNdho| hameM khaTake, vaha to hamArI hI bhUla kA pariNAma hai| praznakartA : kisI vastu ko jAne binA usake bAre meM rAya banA lenA, vaha prejyuDisa (pUrvAgraha) hai? dAdAzrI : nahIM, aisA nahIM hai| ye bhAI hamezA dAna dete haiM aura Aja bhI ve dAna deMge, vaisA mAna lenA, vaha prejyuDisa hai| koI vyakti roz2a Apa para kaTAkSa kara jAtA ho aura Aja bhojana ke lie bulAne AyA ho to use dekhate hI vicAra AtA hai ki yaha kaTAkSa karegA, vaha prejyuddis| isa prejyuDisa ke kAraNa saMsAra khar3A rahA hai| pahale kA jajamenTa chor3a do| vaha to badalatA hI rahatA hai| cora apane sAmane corI kare to bhI usa para pUrvAgraha mata rakhanA, kala zAyada vaha sAhUkAra bhI bana jaae| hameM eka kSaNa ke lie bhI pUrvAgraha nahIM hotaa| abhiprAya aura indriyA~ ye Ama bahuta svAdiSTa hoM, to indriyA~ to unheM eksepTa kareMgI hii| ve sAmane Ae~ to jhaTapaTa khAne lagatA hai, para khAne ke bAda Ama yAda Ate haiM, vaha kisalie? vaha isalie ki usane abhiprAya bA~dhe the ki 'Ama bahuta acche haiN|' indriyA~ kucha yAda nahIM karatIM, ve to becArI to rakho, taba khA letI haiN| hamAre abhiprAya hamase rAga-dveSa karavAte haiN| abhiprAya chUTeM to sahaja ho jaae| abhiprAya baMdhA ki rAga-dveSa hote haiN| jahA~ abhiprAya nahIM, vahA~ rAgadveSa nhiiN| abhiprAya meM se aTakaNa praznakartA : abhiprAya baMdha gayA aura chUTe nahIM to kyA hotA hai? dAdAzrI : jisa vastu para jabaradasta abhiprAya baiTha jAe yAnI use vahA~ aTakaNa (jo baMdhanarUpa ho jAe, Age nahIM bar3hane de) ho hI jAtI hai| abhiprAya saba tarapha ba~Te hue hoM to nikAlanA AsAna hotA hai, para aTakaNa jaisA ho to nikAlanA muzkila hai| vaha bahuta bhArI roga hai| viSaya rAga-dveSavAle nahIM haiM, abhiprAya kI mAnyatA hI rAga-dveSa hai| abhiprAya kisa taraha chUTeM? praznakartA : gAr3ha abhiprAya nikAleM kisa taraha? dAdAzrI : jaba se nakkI kiyA ki nikAlane haiM, taba se ve nikalane lagate haiN| bahuta gAr3ha hoM, unheM roja do-do ghaMTe khodeM to ve khatma hoNge| AtmA prApta hone ke bAda puruSArtha dharma prApta huA kahalAtA hai aura puruSArtha dharma parAkrama taka pahu~ca sakatA hai, jo kaisI bhI aTakaNa ko ukhAr3akara pheMka sakatA hai| para ekabAra jAnanA par3egA ki isa kAraNa se yaha khar3A
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________________ (5) abhiprAya AptavANI-4 huA hai, phira usake pratikramaNa karane caahie| ghara meM se sabake eka-dUsare ke lie abhiprAya nikala jAe~ to kaisA svarga jaisA ghara ho jAe! praznakartA : hameM kisIke lie koI khAsa abhiprAya ho ki isakI prakRti aisI hI hai, taba mana meM aisA rahatA hai ki ise kahU~gA nahIM to ThikAne nahIM rhegaa| dAdAzrI : jaba taka bhItara abhiprAya nahIM TUTeMge ki sAmanevAle ko DA~Te binA cale vaisA nahIM hai, taba taka kisIke sAtha kucha bhI huA to vaha DA~Te binA nahIM rahegA, pichale riekzana to Ae~ge hii| hama nakkI kareM ki abhiprAya chor3anA hai, phira bhI thor3e samaya taka pichale riekzana rheNge| sAmanevAle ko bhI raheMge aura hameM bhI rheNge| praznakartA : abhiprAya bAra-bAra parezAna karate haiN| dAdAzrI : una abhiprAyoM kA abhiprAya rakhanA hI nahIM cAhie, vaise upAya karane caahie| praznakartA : abhiprAya kauna rakhatA hai? dAdAzrI : yaha Ama yahA~ para AyA, to hamArI prakRti ke anusAra indriyoM ko acchA lagatA hai| para indriyoM ko aisA nahIM hai ki isake lie acchA yA burA abhiprAya bA~dhe, vaha usakA svabhAva nahIM hai| lokasaMjJA isameM bahuta kAma karatI hai, logoM kA mAnA huA khuda bilIfa meM rakhatA hai ki yaha acchA hai aura yaha khraab| phira buddhi nizcita karatI hai aura kAma karatI hai| jJAnI kI saMjJA se lokasaMjJA khatma ho jAtI hai, taba usameM se chUTA jAtA tarapha nahIM cale jAnA caahie| praznakartA : usake lie hameM kyA karanA cAhie? dAdAzrI : pratikramaNa karake miTA denA cAhie turanta hii| pratikramaNa nahIM ho to 'dAdA' ko yAda karake yA Apake iSTadeva ko yAda karake saMkSipta meM kaha denA ki 'yaha vicAra A rahA hai vaha ThIka nahIM hai, vaha merA nahIM hai|' sAmanevAle ke prati apanA abhiprAya TUTA yA hama usake sAtha khuza hokara bAteM kareM to ve bhI khuza ho jAte haiN| bAqI use abhiprAya sahita dekho, usake doSa dekho, to hamAre mana kI chAyA usake mana para par3atI hai| phira vaha Ae to bhI hameM acchA nahIM lagatA, usakA asara turanta use bhItara hotA hai| abhiprAya badalane ke lie kyA karanA par3egA? cora ho to mana meM use 'sAhUkAra, sAhUkAra' khnaa| ye acche vyakti haiM, zuddhAtmA haiM, hamase hI galata abhiprAya par3a gayA hai|' isa taraha aMdara badalate rhnaa| vANI kucha bigar3a gaI hai, vaha abhiprAya ke kaarnn| usake kAraNa taMtIlI (vivAdavAlI, tIkhI, cubhanevAlI) vANI nikalatI hai| taMtIlA boleM, taba sAmanevAlA bhI taMta kI zurUAta karatA hai| kisI para zaMkA nahIM honI caahie| zaMkA honA, arthAt ve saba abhiprAya par3e hue haiM usakA pariNAma hai| dekho na Aja ke bacce itane lambe bAla rakhate haiM, vaha kisalie? unake abhiprAya meM hai ki yaha acchA dikhatA hai aura ina bhAI ko lambe bAla rakhane ko kaheM to? unheM vaha kharAba lgegaa| yaha abhiprAyoM kA hI sAmrAjya hai| buddhi ne jisameM sukha mAnA usake abhiprAya haiN| abhiprAya buddhi ke Azaya ke adhIna hai| koI hamase dagA kara gayA ho, vaha hameM yAda nahIM rakhanA hai| abhI vartamAna meM vaha kyA kara rahA hai, vaha dekha lenA cAhie, nahIM to prejyuDisa kisIke lie thor3A bhI ulTA yA sIdhA vicAra Ae ki turanta use dho DAlanA caahie| vaha vicAra yadi. thoDe hI samaya rahA na to vaha sAmanevAle ko pahu~ca jAtA hai aura phira panapatA hai| cAra ghaMTe meM, bAraha ghaMTe meM yA do dinoM bAda bhI usameM panapatA hai| isalie spaMdana kA pravAha usa
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________________ (5) abhiprAya 61 62 AptavANI-4 khlaaegaa| pichalA yAda karane se bahuta nukasAna hotA hai| praznakartA : para dhyAna meM to rakhanA cAhie na vaha? dAdAzrI : vaha to apane Apa ho hI jAtA hai| dhyAna meM rakheM to prejyuDisa hotA hai| prejyuDisa se to phira saMsAra bigar3atA hai| hameM vItarAga bhAva se rahanA hai| pichalA lakSya meM rahegA hI, para vaha kucha helpiMga cIja nahIM hai| apane karma ke udaya vaise the, isalie usane hamAre sAtha vaisA vartana kiyA thaa| udaya acche haiM to U~cA vartana kregaa| isalie prejyuDisa rakhanA mt| Apako kyA mAlUma par3e ki jo pahale Thagakara gayA, vaha Aja naphA dene AyA hai yA nahIM? aura Apako usake sAtha vyavahAra karanA ho to karo aura nahIM karanA ho to mata krnaa| parantu prejyuDisa mata rkhnaa| aura zAyada kabhI vyavahAra karane kA samaya Ae taba to bilkula prejyUDisa mata rkhnaa| praznakartA : abhiprAya vItarAgatA tor3ate haiM? dAdAzrI : haaN| hameM abhiprAya nahIM hone caahie| abhiprAya anAtma vibhAga ke haiM, vaha Apako samajhanA hai ki ve galata haiM, nukasAnadAyaka hai| khuda ke doSa, khuda kI bhUleM, khuda ke vyU poinTsa se abhiprAya bA~dhate haiN| Apako abhiprAya bA~dhane kA kyA rAiTa (adhikAra) hai? praznakartA : abhiprAya baMdha jAe~ aura ve miTe nahIM, to nayA karma baMdhatA hai? hAtha meM hai, to abhiprAya rakhane kI z2arUrata hI kahA~ hai? svarUpajJAna milane ke bAda jJAtA-jJeya kA saMbaMdha prApta hone ke bAda do-pA~ca abhiprAya par3e hoM unheM nikAla deM, to vida oNnarsa pAsa ho jAe~ hama! ___ abhiprAya ke kAraNa jaisA hai vaisA dekhA nahIM jA sakatA, mukta AnaMda kA anubhava nahIM hotA, kyoMki abhiprAya kA AvaraNa hai| abhiprAya hI na raheM, taba nirdoSa huA jAtA hai| svarUpajJAna ke bAda abhiprAya hai taba taka Apa mukta kahalAte ho, lekina mahAmukta nahIM khlaate| abhiprAya ke kAraNa hI anaMta samAdhi rukI huI hai| pahale jo kaoNjez2a the, unakA abhI iphekTa A rahA hai| lekina usa iphekTa para 'acchA hai, burA hai', aisA abhiprAya detA hai, usase rAga-dveSa hote haiN| kriyA se kaoNz2ez2a nahIM baMdhate, para abhiprAya se kaoNz2ez2a baMdhate haiN| svAgata yogya abhiprAya cIjeM bhogane meM harja nahIM hai, lekina una para abhiprAya nahIM rahanA caahie| 'aba mujhe harja nahIM' aisA abhiprAya bhI nahIM honA caahie| jhUTha bola liyA jAe usameM harja nahIM, para abhiprAya to 'satya' bolane kA hI honA caahie| abrahmacarya kA harja nahIM, para usakA abhiprAya nahIM honA caahie| abhiprAya to 'brahmacarya' kA hI honA caahie| abhiprAya to 'yaha deha dhokhA hai' usameM rakhanA hai| kisI bhI prakAra kA abhiprAya bojhA bar3hAtA hai| jisakA abhiprAya, usakA bojhA! hama sAmanevAle para abhiprAya rakheM, isIlie vaha hama para rakhatA hai| hama apanA abhiprAya tor3a deM to usakA abhiprAya apane Apa calA jaaegaa| abhiprAya kA svarUpa praznakartA : abhiprAya arthAt pratiSThita ahaMkAra? dAdAzrI : haaN| abhiprAya ahaMkAra ke paramANuoM se banA huA hai| dAdAzrI: yaha akramavijJAna prApta ho gayA ho aura AtmA-anAtmA kA bhedajJAna ho gayA ho, use nayA karma nahIM bNdhtaa| hA~, abhiprAyoM kA pratikramaNa nahIM ho to sAmanevAle para usakA asara rahA karatA hai| isalie use Apa para bhAva nahIM aataa| zuddha bhAva se rahe to eka bhI karma baMdhegA nahIM aura yadi pratikramaNa karo to vaha asara bhI ur3a jaaegaa| sAta se guNA kiyA use sAta se bhAga de diyA, vahI puruSArtha / janma se mRtyu paryaMta 'sAinTiphika sarakamasTenziyala eviDensa' ke
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________________ (5) abhiprAya kuzalatA kA a~dhApana kuzalatA, eksaparTa hone se roke hameM likhanA-karanA nahIM AtA, pena bhI pakar3anA nahIM aataa| hameM kucha bhI nahIM aataa| saMsAra kA kucha bhI nahIM Ae, unakA nAma 'jnyaanii'| hama abuddha kahalAte haiN| abhiprAya vyaktitva dikhAtA hai| abhiprAya se dRSTi hI badala jAtI hai| abhiprAya mRtaprAya hoM, binA Agraha ke hoM to harja nahIM, jaldI khatma ho jAte haiN| para jo abhiprAya AgrahavAle haiM, ve jJAna para AvaraNa lAte haiN| mizracetana ke prati abhiprAya jar3a vastu kA abhiprAya do, usameM itanA adhika harja nahIM hai, use chor3ate dera nahIM lgegii| para mizracetana ke sAthavAle abhiprAya ke sAmane hama saceta rahane ko kahate haiN| ___hara eka ko apanI-apanI vAipha ke lie abhiprAya baiTha cuke hote haiN| isalie TakarAva hotA hai| 'maiM caMdUlAla hU~' vaha abhiprAya hI hai na? Apa ho, vaisA nahIM mAnate ho aura nahIM ho vaisA mAnate ho| ghara ke sAre hI logoM ke sAtha gAr3ha abhiprAya baMdha gae hote haiN| isalie jinake mu~ha car3heM-utareM, vaise mizracetana ke lie abhiprAya bA~dhanA hI nhiiN| abhiprAya hI aMtarAya haiN| pApa jala sakate haiM, parantu abhiprAyoM ke aMtarAya to khada ke lie hI hAnikAraka bana jAte haiM aura jinase chUTanA hai, vahA~ para hI adhika gA~TheM par3a jAtI hai| khuda ke hAvabhAva khuda ko hI kar3ave lagate haiM, para ve pudgala ke haiN| apanI rAjIkhuzI se abhiprAyoM kA mAla bharA hai| hara eka ke khuda ke abhiprAya ke anusAra hAvabhAva hote haiN| 'zuddhAtmA' to hai, parantu pratiSThita AtmA kA abhiprAya khar3A huA, isalie usake anusAra hI 'mazInarI' clegii| 'zuddhAtmA' ke sivAya dUsarA sabakucha hI mazInarI hai| praznakartA : Apa apane Apa ko abuddha kahate haiM, para prabuddha lagate haiM hmeN| dAdAzrI : para maiM to hara eka bAta kA anubhava karake kahatA huuN| Aja sattara varSa kI umra huI, parantu abhI taka mujhe dAr3hI banAnI nahIM aatii| loga mana meM mAnate haiM ki unheM dAr3hI banAnI AtI hai, vaha saba igoijama hai| kucha hI, bahuta kama logoM ko dAr3hI banAnI AtI hogii| majhe khuda ko bhI samajha meM AtA hai, ki mujhe yaha rez2ara kisa taraha pakar3anA cAhie. kitanI DigrI se pakar3anA cAhie, usake bAre meM kucha mAlama nahIM hai| usake eksaparTa hama nahIM hue haiN| jaba taka maiM eksaparTa nahIM huA, taba taka hameM nahIM AtA hai aisA hI kahA jaaegaa| praznakartA : eksaparTa hone meM Apako phAyadA nahIM dikhA na? dAdAzrI : phAyade kI bAta nahIM, parantu 'jaisA hai vaisA' maiM kaha detA hU~ ki mujhe dAr3hI banAnI nahIM aatii| Apako lage ki, aisA to kisa taraha ho sakatA hai? parantu Apako AtA hai vahI galata hai| vaha sirpha igoijama hai| kucha ko to bleDa kA upayoga karanA bhI nahIM AtA, bleDa kAma meM
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________________ (6) kuzalatA kA a~dhApana 65 66 AptavANI-4 A cukI yA nahIM, vaha bhI nahIM jaante| yaha to sArA polampola calatA rahatA hai! praznakartA : eksaparTa matalaba? dAdAzrI : manuSya eksaparTa nahIM ho sktaa| eksaparTa, vaha to kudaratI bakhziza hai| isa AtmavijJAna meM maiM bhI eksaparTa huA hU~, vaha bhI kudaratI bakhziza hai| nahIM to manuSya jJAnI kisa taraha bana sakatA hai? isalie hama kahate haiM ki 'disa ija baTa necurl|' are, mujhe to calanA bhI nahIM aataa| loga kaheM ki dAdA bahuta acchA calate haiM ! para maiM to jJAnadRSTi se dekhatA hU~, isalie mujhe patA calatA hai ki mujhe calanA bhI nahIM aataa| praznakartA : parantu hameM to ApakA sabhIkucha AdarzarUpa hI dikhatA hone ke bAda taTastha dRSTi se dekhA, logoM ko vyApAra karate hue dekhA taba maiM samajha gayA ki yaha to kucha AtA hI nhiiN| yaha to igoiz2ama hI hai khaalii| kucha pA~ca loga mAneM, svIkAra kareM, isalie kyA sArI kuzalatA A gaI? praznakartA : ApakI dRSTi se abudhatA ThIka hai, para vyavahArika dRSTi se? dAdAzrI : 'maiM buddha hU~' vaha bhAna aura yaha jJAna vaha donoM sAtha meM raha hI nahIM skte| hamAre pAsa jJAna kA phula prakAza hai, isalie hameM buddhi kI z2arUrata hI nahIM na? buddhi imozanala karavAtI hai aura jJAna mozana (saMtulana) meM rakhatA hai| hameM saMsAra vismRta ho cukA hai| hameM hastAkSara karanA bhI nahIM aataa| paMdraha-bIsa varSoM se kucha likhA hI nahIM isalie saba vismRta ho gayA hai| yaha saMsAra apane Apa vismRta ho jAe, vaisA hai| usake lie itane sAre prayoga karane kI z2arUrata nahIM hai| paricaya chUTA ki vismRta ho gyaa| yAnI paricaya chUTa jAnA caahie| sAdhAraNa vyavahAra meM harja nahIM hai, para paricaya meM harja hai| dAdAzrI : vaisA lagatA hai, para maiM jJAnarUpa se dekhatA hU~, aMtima sthiti ke cazme se dekhatA hU~, isalie aMtima lAiTa se yaha saba kaccA lagatA hai| kucha loga mujhe kahate haiM ki dAdA, Apake sAtha baiThakara hama bhojana karanA sIkha ge| aba maiM apane Apa ko jAnatA haiM na ki majhe bhojana karanA hI nahIM aataa| bhojana karanevAle kA phoTo kaisA honA cAhie, kaisA cAritra honA cAhie, vaha hameM lakSya meM hotA hI hai| parantu vaisA kise hotA hai? bakhzizavAle ko hotA hai| eka ora ahaMkAra ho aura eka ora eksaparTa honA. ve donoM sAtha meM ho hI nahIM skte| ahaMkAra hI eksaparTa hone se rokatA hai| sAra kA khAtA parabhava se kyA-kyA sAtha meM lekara Ae haiM? caMdUbhAI kI z2arUrata kI sArI vastue~ lekara hI Ae ho, mana kI z2arUrata kI sArI vastue~ lekara Ae ho, citta kI z2arUrata kI sArI vastue~ lekara Ae ho, buddhi kI, ahaMkAra kI z2arUrata kI sArI hI vastue~ lekara Ae ho, aba ve jarUrata kI vastue~ kudarata Apako saplAi karatI hai aura khuda kahatA hai ki maiM kara rahA huuN| saba taiyAra ho usameM hamane kyA kiyA kahalAegA? jo taiyAra nahIM hai usake lie karanA, vaha puruSArtha kahalAtA hai| yaha sArA to Apa taiyAra lekara Ae hue ho : dukAna, oNphisa, patnI, bacce saba taiyAra sAmAna lekara Ae hue ho| yaha bahIkhAte kA hisAba hai| isalie hama abudha haiM vaha anubhavapUrvaka kaha rahe haiM, aise hI nahIM khte| phira bhI Apako prabudha dikhate haiM vaha ApakI dRSTi hai| merI dRSTi kahA~ hogI? vaha Apako samajha meM AyA? hamArI carama dRSTi hai| vyApAra meM bhI maiM khuda ko eksaparTa mAnatA thaa| use bhI yaha jJAna
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________________ (6) kuzalatA kA a~dhApana AtmA ke pitA bhI nahIM hote aura patra bhI nahIM hote. bahIkhAte ke lenadena ke hisAba ke lie ikaTThe hote haiM sbhii| aba Age kyA karanA hai, vaha nahIM jAnane se Aja jotate rahate haiN| are, yaha to jotA huA hI hai, taiyAra hI hai| usameM bahuta dhyAna rakhane kI z2arUrata nahIM hai| sahaja citta rakhanA aura dUsarA saba krnaa| janma se mRtyu taka ke sAre hI sTezana anivArya rUpa se lekara Ae hue ho| khuda ko acchA lagatA hai taba samajhatA hai ki merI marjI kA hai aura pasaMda nahIM ho, taba kahatA hai ki anivArya hai| vAstava meM to sabakucha hI anivArya hai| yaha saba jAnanA par3egA na? aise kaba taka gappa calane deMge? kucha sAra to nikAlanA cAhie na? sAra kA khAtA sAtha meM rakhanA caahie| sabjI lene gae, vaha to anivArya rUpa se lAnI cAhie, parantu rAste meM phalAne bhAI ne jaya-jaya kiyA, usase chAtI aise phUla jAtI hai! usase nukasAna hI hotA hai na? isalie bahI dekhakara sAra nikAlanA cAhie ki kahA~ nukasAna huA? vivAha meM gae aura kisIne Aie seTha kahA ki turanta hI Apa TAiTa ho gae to dekhanevAlA samajha jAtA hai ki seTha ne nukasAna utthaayaa| usameM sAmanevAle kA to pharja hai ki Apako 'Aie' kahe, parantu Apako vahA~ para kaccA nahIM par3a jAnA caahie| aise pakke ho jAo ki kahIM bhI nukasAna nahIM ho| ekabAra nukasAna uThAyA, do bAra uThAyA, bIsa bAra nukasAna uThAyA, para aMta meM Apako sAra nikAlanA cAhie ki ye jaya-jaya kaha rahe haiM, vaha mujhe kaha rahe haiM yA bhItaravAle ko kaha rahe haiM? 'bhItara' 'bhagavAna' baiThe haiM, ve 'zuddhAtmA' haiN| (7) aMtarAya aMtarAya kisa taraha par3ate haiM? praznakartA : saMsAra hai hI aisI vastu ki vahA~ nire aMtarAya hI haiN| dAdAzrI : Apa khuda paramAtmA ho, para usa pada kA lAbha nahIM milatA, kyoMki nire aMtarAya haiN| 'maiM caMdUbhAI hU~' bole ki aMtarAya par3ate haiN| kyoMki bhagavAna kahate haiM ki, 'tU mujhe caMdU kahatA hai?' yaha nAsamajhI se bolA to bhI aMtarAya par3ate haiN| aMgAroM para anajAne meM hAtha DAleM to ve chor3eMge kyA? bhItara paramAtmA baiThe haiM, anaMta zakti hai bhItara, vaha jitanI cAhie utanI mile vaisA hai| para jitane aMtarAya DAle utanI zakti AvRtta ho jAtI icchA karo, vahA~ aMtarAya par3ate haiN| jisa cIz2a kI icchA hotI hai usakA aMtarAya hotA hai| havA kI icchA hotI hai? isalie usakA aMtarAya khar3A nahIM hotaa| para pAnI kI thor3I-thor3I icchA hotI hai usase usake aMtarAya khar3e hote haiN| jJAnI puruSa ko kisI bhI vastu kI icchA nahIM hotI, isalie unakA niraaMtarAya pada hotA hai, hara eka vasta sahaja hI A milatI hai. 'jJAnI' ko kisI cIz2a kI bhIkha nahIM hotii| bhikhArIpana chUTe to Apa khuda hI paramAtmA ho| bhikhArIpana se hI baMdhana hai| khuda kI vastuoM ke lie khuda hI aMtarAya khar3e karatA hai| buddhi
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________________ (7) aMtarAya ke Azaya meM ho aura aMtarAya nahIM ho to vaha vastu binA icchA ke sAmane AtI hai ! 69 jagat meM sabhI vastue~ haiM, para milatI kyoM nahIM? taba kahe, 'aMtarAya bAdhA DAlatA hai|' praznakartA ye aMtarAya kisa taraha Dalate haiM? dAdAzrI : ye bhAI nAztA de rahe hoM to Apa kahate ho ki, 'aba rahane de na, bekAra bigdd'egaa|' vaha aMtarAya DAlA kahalAtA hai| koI dAna de rahA ho vahA~ Apa kaho ki, 'ise kahA~ de rahe ho? ve to har3apa le jAe~ vaise haiN|' vaha Apane dAna kA aMtarAya ddaalaa| phira denevAlA de yA nahIM de vaha cIz2a alaga rahI, para Apane aMtarAya ddaalaa| phira Apako duHkha meM bhI koI dAtA nahIM milegaa| praznakartA: vANI se aMtarAya nahIM DAle hoM, parantu mana se aMtarAya DAle hoM to ? dAdAzrI : vANI se bole hue kA iphekTa isa janma meM AtA hai aura mana se citrita kiyA huA dUsare janma meM rUpaka meM aaegaa| yAnI ye saba khuda ke hI DAle hue aMtarAya haiM, nahIM to AtmA pAsa kyA cIz2a nahIM hotI? jagat kI tamAma vastue~ usake lie taiyAra hI haiN| ve to 'hama Ae~? hama Ae~?' aisA pUchate haiN| phira bhI aMtarAya kahate haiM, 'nhiiN| nahIM AnA hai|' aMtarAya usa cIz2a ko milane hI nahIM dete| praznakartA : yAnI khuda jAgRti rakhanI cAhie ki ulTA vicAra nahIM aae| dAdAzrI : aisA nahIM hogA, vicAra to ulTe-sIdhe Ae bagaira raheMge hI nhiiN| hameM unheM miTA denA hai, vaha apanA kAma ! Apako vicAra AyA ki, 'ise nahIM denA caahie|' para jJAna hAz2ira hotA hai ki yaha bIca meM kahA~ aMtarAya DAlanA ? isalie turanta miTA denA caahie| jJAna nahIM ho to kyA kareMge? hama kaheM ki, 'aisA vicAra kisalie kiyA?' to vaha Upara se AptavANI-4 kahegA, 'karanA hI caahie| Apa isameM kyA samajhate ho?' vaha ulTA Dabala kara detA hai / pAgala ahaMkAra kyA nahIM kare? khuda, khuda ke hI paira para kulhAr3I mAratA hai| aba hama ise miTA sakate haiN| mana meM pazcAtApa kareM, kSamA mA~ge aura phira nizcita kareM ki aisA nahIM bolanA cAhie, to miTAyA jA sakatA hai| patra posTa meM DAlane se pahale badalA jA sakatA hai aura yadi soce ki dAna denA acchA hai, taba pahale kA kahA huA miTa jaaegaa| 70 praznakartA : acche kArya kA anumodana kareM to ? dAdAzrI : to usa denevAle ko lAbha hotA hai aura khuda ko bhI lAbha hotA hai| hamane anumodanA nahIM kI ho to hameM anumodanA karanevAlA koI nahIM milegaa| jaba ki yaha saba jJAniyoM ke lie heya (tyAgane yogya) hai| vaha saba saMsAra bar3hAnevAlA hai| phira bhI, jise AtmA kA jJAna nahIM ho usake lie to ramaNIya saMsAra kA sAdhana hai| isa saMsAra meM aMtarAya kisa taraha par3ate haiM, vaha Apako smjhaauuN| Apa jisa oNphisa meM naukarI karate hoM, vahA~ Apake AsisTinTa ko beakkala kahA ki usase ApakI akkala para aMtarAya par3A! bolo, aba pUre jagat ne ina aMtarAyoM meM pha~sa pha~sakara, isa manuSya janma ko yoM hI kho DAlA hai! Apako rAiTa hI nahIM hai, sAmanevAle ko beakkala kahane kaa| Apa aisA bolo taba sAmanevAlA bhI ulTA bolegA, usase use bhI aMtarAya par3eMge ! bolo aba, ina aMtarAyoM meM par3ane se jagat kisa taraha ruke? kisIko Apa nAlAyaka kaho to ApakI kuzalatA para aMtarAya par3atA hai! Apa usake turanta hI pratikramaNa karo to vaha aMtarAya par3ane se pahale dhula jaaegaa| ilAyacI maha~gI, lauMga maha~ge, supArI maha~gI, isalie loga khAte nahIM haiN| vaha khAne ko nahIM milatA hai, vaha aMtarAya par3e hue haiM islie| ghara meM sAta vyakti zrIkhaMDa khA rahe hoM aura eka vyakti bAjare kI roTI aura chAcha khAtA hai, DaoNkTara ne kahA hotA hai ki zrIkhaMDa khAoge to mara jAoge ! vaha aMtarAya kisalie par3atA hai? khAnA sAmane AyA taba hamane usakA tiraskAra kiyA hogA, islie|
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________________ (7) aMtarAya 71 AptavANI-4 aMtarAya par3atA hai| koI kahe ki, "jJAnI puruSa' Ae haiM, calo AnA ho to|' taba Apa kaho ki, 'aba aise 'jJAnI puruSa' to bahuta dekhe haiN|' yaha aMtarAya DalA! aba manuSya hai, isalie bole bagaira to rahatA hI nahIM na! Apase nahIM jAyA jAe aisA ho, taba Apako mana meM bhAva ho ki, 'jJAnI puruSa' Ae haiM para mujhase nahIM jAyA jA sakatA', to aMtarAya tteNge| aMtarAya DAlanevAlA khuda nAsamajhI se aMtarAya DAlatA hai, usakI use khabara nahIM mokSamArga meM aMtarAya mokSamArga meM to aMtarAya Ae~ taba khuda kI zaktiyA~ adhika prakaTa hotI jAtI haiN| isalie isameM aMtarAya Ae~ to bhI hameM hamArA nizcaya dRr3ha rakhanA hai ki 'kisIkI tAkata nahIM ki mujhe roka sake', vaisA bhAva rakhanA hai| mu~ha para nahIM bolanA hai, bolanA to ahaMkAra hai| khuda kA anizcaya hI aMtarAya hai| nizcaya kareM to aMtarAya TUTa jAte haiN| AtmA kA nizcaya ho jAe taba sAre aMtarAya TUTa hI jAte haiM na! saMsArI buddhi ke aMtarAyoM kA bahuta harja nahIM hai, para dhArmika buddhi ke aMtarAya anaMta janmoM taka bhaTakA dete haiN| usameM bhI 'rileTiva' dharma ke aMtarAya kaI sAdhu, sAdhvI, AcArya mahArAjoM ke TUTe hue hote haiM, taba 'riyala' dharma, Atmadharma ke aMtarAya bahuta Dale hue hote haiN| aba dharma meM aMtarAya kisalie paDate haiM? 'maiM kucha jAnatA hU~' vaha sabase bar3A aMtarAya hai| dharma meM jAnA kaba kahA jAtA hai? kabhI bhI Thokara nahIM lage, ArtadhyAna-raudradhyAna nahIM ho, thoDA-sA bhI raudradhyAna kA pariNAma taka khar3A nahIM ho, vaise saMyoga bhI nahIM mileM, use 'jAna liyA' kahA jAtA hai| isalie bhagavAna ne kyA kahA hai, jaba taka ArtadhyAna aura raudradhyAna hotA hai, taba taka 'maiM kucha bhI nahIM jAnatA, 'jJAnI puruSa' jAnate haiM', aise bolnaa| taba taka sira para jimmedArI mata lenaa| bahata jokhima hai| dUsare sTezana para utara jaaoge| bhagavAna ne sabase bar3A aMtarAya jJAnAMtarAya ko kahA hai| lakSmI ke aura dAna ke aMtarAya TUTate haiM, para jJAna ke aMtarAya jaldI nahIM ttuuttte| jJAnAMtarAya-darzanAMtarAya kisase? praznakartA : jJAnAMtarAya, darzanAMtarAya kisase par3ate haiM? dAdAzrI : dharma meM ulTA-sIdhA bole, 'Apa kucha bhI nahIM samajhate aura maiM hI samajhatA hU~', usase jJAnAMtarAya aura darzanAMtarAya par3ate haiN| yA phira koI AtmajJAna prApta kara rahA ho, usameM rukAvaTa DAle to use jJAna kA pratyeka zabda bolanA jokhima se bharA huA hai, vaha bolanA nahIM Ae to mauna rahanA acchaa| usameM bhI dharma meM bahuta jokhima hai, vyavahAra ke jokhima to ur3a jaaeNge| ye bhajana gAne kyoM nahIM Ate haiM? 'hameM to AegA hI nhiiN|' aise karake aMtarAya khar3e kie haiN| hameM to AegA hii|' vaisA bole to aMtarAya tteN| sIkhane jAnA hI nahIM par3atA, saba sIkhakara hI AyA huA hai| praznakartA : 'mujhe bhajana gAnA AtA hai' bole to A jAtA hai? dAdAzrI : nhiiN| 'AtA hai' vaisA nhiiN| kyoM nahIM AegA?' vaisA mana meM dRr3ha rahanA caahie| kucha kahate haiM, 'aisA akrama jJAna to kahIM hotA hogA? ghaMTebhara meM mokSa to hotA hogA?' aisA bole ki unheM aMtarAya pdd'e| isa jagat meM kyA nahIM ho sakatA, vaha kahA nahIM jA sktaa| isalie yaha jagat buddhi se nApane jaisA nahIM hai| kyoMki yaha huA hai, vaha haqIqata hai| AtmavijJAna' ke lie to khAsa aMtarAya Dale hue hote haiN| yaha sabase aMtima sTezana hai| parokSa ke lie jinake aMtarAya TUTa gae hoM, unheM pratyakSa ke aMtarAya hote hI haiN| isalie unheM parokSa hI milate haiN| aura pratyakSa ke aMtarAya to bahuta bar3e-bar3e Dale hue hote haiN| ve TeM taba to anaMta janmoM ke nukasAna kI bharapAI ho jAtI hai| praznakartA : jJAnAMtarAya aura darzanAMtarAya kisa taraha TUTate haiM?
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________________ (7) aMtarAya 73 dAdAzrI : ve aMtarAya jJAnIpuruSa tor3a dete haiN| 'jJAnI puruSa' ajJAna tor3a dete haiM aura aMtarAya bhI nikAla dete haiN| parantu kucha aMtarAya to 'jJAnI puruSa' bhI nahIM tor3a skte| praznakartA : ve kauna-se aMtarAya haiM? dAdAzrI : jahA~ vinayadharma khaMDita ho rahA ho vh| vinaya to mokSamArga meM mukhya vastu hai| 'jJAnI puruSa' ke lie eka bhI ulTA vicAra nahIM AnA caahie| praznakartA : yahA~ Ane kA bhAva rahA karatA hai, parantu pudgala-mAyA nahIM Ane detI to kyA kareM? dAdAzrI : vahI aMtarAya karma hai| hamAre bhAva dRDha hoMge to eka dina vaha pUrA hogaa| aMtarAyakarma acetana hai aura hama logoM ke bhAva cetana ko pAe hue haiM, usase ataMrAya TUTate haiN| aura 'jJAnIpuruSa' ke pAsa se 'vidhi' meM mA~gate rahanA cAhie ki hamAre aMtarAya tor3a dIjie to ve tor3a deNge| jJAnI kA vacanabala Apake aMtarAya tor3a degaa| aMdara kheda rahe ki satsaMga meM nahIM jAyA jA sakatA, usase aMtarAya TUTate haiN| praznakartA : aMtarAya apane Apa TUTate haiM yA puruSArtha se TUTate haiM? dAdAzrI : ve bhAva se TUTate haiN| jaba aMtarAya TUTane kA kAla Ae, taba bhAva hotA hai| jise 'yaha' jJAna mila jAe na usake to sAre aMtarAya TUTa jAte haiN| kyoMki aMtarAya ahaMkAra ke kAraNa Dalate haiM ki 'maiM kucha huuN'| aMtarAya karma TUTe to ghaDIbhara kI bhI dera nahIM lgtii| AtmA meM aura mokSa meM kitanI dUrI hai? kucha bhI nhiiN| bIca meM aMtarAya par3e hue haiM, utanA hI dUra hai! AtmA prApta karane ke bAda aMtarAya saMyoga svarUpI haiM aura saMyoga viyogI svabhAva ke haiM aura 'hama' 'zuddhAtmA' asaMyogI, aviyogI haiN| (8) tiraskAra-tarachor3a jisakA tiraskAra, usase hI bhaya jisakA tiraskAra karoge, usase bhaya lgegaa| isa pulisavAle se kisalie bhaya lagatA hai? usake prati tiraskAra hai islie| Apa jisakA tiraskAra karoge, usake prati ApameM bhaya ghusa jaaegaa| rAta ko macchara para tiraskAra ho gayA to pUrI rAta sone nahIM degaa| korTa kA tiraskAra ho, vakIla kA tiraskAra ho, to korTa ke aMdara praveza karate hI bhaya lagatA hai| koI jAna-pahacAnavAlA ho usase kyoM bhaya nahIM lagatA? kyoMki usa para tiraskAra nahIM hai| praznakartA : pahale tiraskAra hotA hai yA pahale bhaya hotA hai? dAdAzrI : pahale tiraskAra hotA hai| pahale bhaya nahIM hotaa| vaha kisa taraha? sunA ho ki yaha pulisavAlA bahuta kharAba hai, vaha jJAna huA ho, isalie usa jJAna ke AdhAra para pahale tiraskAra ho jAtA hai aura tiraskAra se bhaya utpanna hotA hai| phira vaha bhaya bar3hatA jAtA hai aura pulisavAle ko dekhe aura akulAhaTa ho jAtI hai| pulisavAlA Apake pAsa sirpha eDresa hI pUchane AyA ho, to bhI! praznakartA : tiraskAra se bhaya lagatA hai to rAga se kyA hotA hai? dAdAzrI : mUrchA hotI hai, besudhI hotI hai| ye donoM jAe~ taba vItarAga hotA hai|
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________________ AptavANI-4 (8) tiraskAra-tarachor3a tarachor3a, kitanA jokhimavAlA? praznakartA : tiraskAra aura tarachor3a, ina donoM meM kyA farka hai? dAdAzrI: tiraskAra to zAyada kabhI patA bhI nahIM cle| tiraskAra bilkula 'mAilDa' (halkI-phulkI) vastu hai, parantu tarachor3a to bahuta ugra svarUpa hai, turanta khUna nikalatA hai, isa deha meM se khana nahIM nikalatA, mana meM se khUna nikalatA hai| praznakartA : tiraskAra aura tarachoDa ke phala kaise hote haiM? tarachor3a sabhI daravAje baMda kara detI hai| jise hama tarachor3a mAreM, vaha kabhI bhI daravAjA kholegA hI nhiiN| praznakartA : tiraskAra aura tarachor3a haiM, ve jIvana vyavahAra meM hara pala anubhava meM Ate haiN| dAdAzrI: hA~, hara eka ko yahI ho rahA hai na? jagat meM duHkha hI usake haiN| ulTI vANI to aisI nikalatI hai, 'akAla par3e' aisA bolatA dAdAzrI : tiraskAra kA phala itanA bar3A nahIM AtA, parantu tarachor3a kA bahuta bar3A AtA hai| tarachor3a tamAma prakAra ke aMtarAya DAlatA hai| isalie vastue~ hameM prApta nahIM hone detA, bilkula parezAna karake rakha detA hai| tarachor3a kyA nahIM karatA? tarachor3a se to sArA jagat khar3A rahA hai| isalie hama eka hI vastu kahate haiM ki 'baira chor3o, tarachor3a nahIM lage vaise clo|' tarachor3a ke lie hamArA citta bahuta jAgRta rahatA hai| dera rAta ko rAste para se jAnA ho, taba hama jAgRta hote haiM ki jisase hamAre jUtoM kI AvAz2a se kuttA nahIM jAga jaae| usake aMdara bhI AtmA hai na? koI hameM prema se poijana de, to bhI hama use tarachor3a nahIM mAreMge! vItarAga mArga meM to kisIkA bhI virodha yA tarachor3a nahIM hotaa| cora, DAkU yA badamAza, vItarAga kisIke bhI virAdhaka nahIM hote| unheM aisA kaheM 'tU galata dhaMdhA lekara baiThA hai' to use tarachor3a lagegI aura tarachor3a lage vahA~ bhagavAna ko nahIM dekha skte| bhagavAna to itanA hI kahate haiM ki, 'use bhI tU tattvadRSTi se dekh| avasthA dRSTi se dekhegA to terA hI bigar3anevAlA hai|' hama kIcar3a meM patthara DAleM to? kIcar3a kA kyA bigar3anevAlA hai? kIcar3a to bigar3A huA hI hai, chaTiM hama para hI udd'eNge| isalie vItarAga to bahuta samajhadAra the| jIva-mAtra ko tarachor3a nahIM lage vaise nikala jAte praznakartA : ulTI vANI ke to Ajakala rAjA hote haiN| dAdAzrI : hameM pichale janmoM kA dikhatA hai, taba Azcarya hotA hai ki ohoho! tarachor3a kA kitanA adhika nukasAna hai! isalie majadUroM ko bhI tarachor3a nahIM lage, usa prakAra AcaraNa karate haiN| aMta meM sA~pa hokara bhI kATate haiM, tarachor3a badalA lie bagaira rahatA nahIM hai| bAhara ke ghAva to bhara jAe~ge, parantu vANI ke ghAva to pUrI z2indagI nahIM bhrte| are, kucha ghAva to sau-sau janmoM taka nahIM bharate haiM! tarachor3a kA upAya kyA? praznakartA : kyA upAya karU~ ki jisase tarachor3a ke pariNAma bhugatane kI bArI nahIM Ae? dAdAzrI : usake lie dUsarA koI upAya nahIM hai, sirpha pratikramaNa hI karate rahanA hai| jaba taka sAmanevAle kA mana vApasa nahIM palaTe, taba taka krnaa| aura pratyakSa mila jAe~, to phira vApasa mIThA-mIThA bolakara kSamA mA~ga lenA ki, 'bhAI, merI to bahuta bhUla ho gaI, maiM to mUrakha hU~, beakla huuN|' isase sAmanevAle ke ghAva bharate jaaeNge| hama apane Apa ko burA-bhalA kaheM to sAmanevAle ko acchA lagatA hai| taba usake ghAva bhara jAte haiN| saMsAra meM sukhI hone kI icchA ho to kisIko tarachor3a mata maarnaa|
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________________ (8) tiraskAra-tarachor3a oo tarachor3a kise mArate ho? bhagavAna ko hii| kyoMki hara eka ke bhItara bhagavAna baiThe hue haiN| manuSya ko gAlI nahIM pahu~catI, bhagavAna ko pahu~catI hai| saMsAra ke sabhI pariNAma bhagavAna svIkAra karate haiM, isalie ve pariNAma aise lAnA ki bhagavAna svIkAra kareM to vahA~ apanA kharAba nahIM dikhe, eka jIva ko bhI tarachor3a mArakara koI mokSa meM nahIM jA sktaa| vyaktitva saurabha vItarAgatA se baratate haiM 'ye' 'jJAnI' praznakartA : Apako sabase adhika priya vastu kauna-sI hai? dAdAzrI : mujhe AtmA ke sivAya koI vastu priya nahIM hai| praznakartA : AdhyAtmikatA ke bAre meM Apake anubhava, vicAra btaaie| dAdAzrI : maiM mana-vacana-kAyA se bilkula judA rahatA hU~, bilkula nirAlA rahatA huuN| phira bhI kevalajJAna nahIM huA hai, kAla ke AdhAra para vaha cAra DigrI pacA nahIM hai| praznakartA : saMsAra se Apa kisa prakAra alipta raha sakate haiM? dAdAzrI : saMpUrNa vItarAgatA se| vyavasAya-vyApAra karate haiM, inkamaTaiksa-selsaTaiksa sabhI bharate haiM, saMsAra kI seMkaDoM talavAroM ke nIce bhI vItarAgatA meM rahate haiN| hAtha kATa DAleM, to bhI vItarAgatA rahatI hai| praznakartA : itanA hone ke uparAMta bhI Apako vyApAra kA mahatva lagatA hai? dAdAzrI : hameM kisI cIz2a kA mahatva nahIM hotA, phira bhI karanA par3atA hai| pulisavAlA pakar3akara le jAe aura karavAe aura vaha karanA par3e, usake jaisA hai| praznakartA : vyApAra meM phAyadA ho to?
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________________ (9) vyaktitva saurabha 79 dAdAzrI : vaisI koI vRtti hI nahIM hai| phAyade kA vicAra hI nahIM AyA, saba sahaja rUpa se hotA hai| kisI bhI prakAra kI icchA hI nahIM hai, yaha nirIcchaka dazA huI hai ! praznakartA: ApakI aisI dazA kaba se huI hai? dAdAzrI : vaise to sArA jIvana dharmadhyAna meM hI gayA hai, para 1958 meM jJAna prakaTa huA ! praznakartA : yaha jJAna Apako prakaTa huA to usake pIche Apane kitanI sAdhanA kI thI? dAdAzrI : 'yaha' to anaMta avatAroM kI sAdhanA kA phala haiM, phira bhI isa avatAra meM bhI sAdhanA thii| isake uparAMta, mAtA ke saMskAra bahuta uttama mile haiN| praznakartA: Apane vrata, niyama, upavAsa kie the? dAdAzrI : hamase saugaMdha khAne jitanA bhI upavAsa nahIM huA hai| hA~, pUrI z2indagI hamezA uNodarI tapa kiyA hai| covihAra (sUryAsta se pahale bhojana karanA), ubalA huA pAnI, kaMdamUla niSedha vagairaha bahuta hI sTrikalI kie haiN| 1958 kA vaha adbhuta darzana praznakartA: Apako 1958 meM sUrata meM jo darzana huA, vaha kaisA huA thA? dAdAzrI : isa deha meM se mAnoM ki alaga ho gae hoM, vaisA lagA / praznakartA: vaha muktatA kaisI lagI thI ? dAdAzrI : ebsolyUTa mukta hI, vaha dazA alaga hI thI ! usakA varNana ho sake vaisA nahIM hai ! praznakartA: vaha momenTa (kSaNa) thA, usase pahale Apako kucha lagA 80 AptavANI-4 thA ki kucha honevAlA hai? dAdAzrI : zAMti bahuta rahA karatI thii| para vaha ahaMkAra sahitavAlI zAMti kahalAtI hai, vaha kAma kI nahIM hai| vaha to ajJAnI ko bhI raha sakatI hai| praznakartA: usa samaya sTezana para ApakA AnaMda anokhA thA? dAdAzrI : jJAtA-dRSTA - paramAnaMda, sAre guNa sahita alaga ho gayA thaa| deha meM nahIM, vacana meM nahIM, mana meM nahIM, usa taraha alaga ho gayA thA, usa sthiti ko 'jJAna prApta ho gayA' kahA jAtA hai| jJAna hI AtmA hai| praznakartA: Apako jJAna prakaTa hone ke bAda jJAnaprakAza utanA hI rahatA hai yA bar3hatA rahatA hai ? dAdAzrI : hameM to yaha 'anubhavajJAna' hai| usameM do prakAra kA prakAza nahIM hotA hai| niraMtara eka hI prakAra kA prakAza rahatA hai, hameM AtmA kA spaSTa anubhava hai| jaba taka AtmA kA spaSTa anubhava nahIM ho jAtA, taba taka jJAna bar3hatA rahatA hai| parantu spaSTa anubhava ho jAe, taba vaha jJAna pUrA ho jAtA hai| praznakartA: AdhyAtmika sTaDI karanevAlA pUrNatA taka pahu~cA, usakA kisa taraha patA cale? dAdAzrI : unakI vANI vItarAga hotI hai, bAteM vItarAga hotI haiM, vartana vItarAga hotA hai| unakI haraeka bAbata meM unakI vItarAgatA hotI hai| koI gAlI de to bhI vItarAgatA aura phUla car3hAe~ to bhI vItarAgatA hotI hai| unakI vANI syAdavAda hotI hai yAni ki kisI dharma kA, kisI jIva kA pramANa nahIM dubhatA (Ahata hotaa)| jJAna kA tarIkA nahIM hotA praznakartA: Apa mukti meM vicarate haiM, parantu vaha siddhi kisa taraha prApta huI ?
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________________ (9) vyaktitva saurabha AptavANI-4 dAdAzrI : ApakI hI taraha mujhe bahuta loga pUchate haiM, taba mujhe kahanA par3atA hai ki, 'Apako nakala karanI hai? nakala karoge to ApakI mehanata bekAra jaaegii|' 'disa ija baTa necurl|' aura vaha bhI sUrata sTezana kI beMca para baiThA huA thA, taba atyaMta bhIr3a meM yaha jJAna prakaTa huA! praznakartA : Apako 'baTa necurala' jJAna huA vaha kyA hai? use smjhaaie| dAdAzrI : 'baTa necurala' jJAna kisIko hI hotA hai| koI kahegA ki, 'maiMne apane Apa kiyA hai| to vaha jJAna adhUrA rahatA hai| yaha to 'necuralI' apane Apa huA hai| yadi kiyA hotA, to 80 pratizata vikalpa kama huA hotA, to 20 pratizata bAkI rhtaa| yaha to 100 pratizata nirvikalpa hai, yaha vItarAga vijJAna hai| 'jJAnI', mokSa kA pramANa dete haiM praznakartA : ApakA nityakrama kyA hai? dAdAzrI : maiM mere mokSa meM hI niraMtara rahatA hU~, abhI bhI maiM mere mokSa meM hI huuN| yaha vANI nikala rahI hai, vaha TeparikaoNrDa nikala rahA hai, usakA mAlika maiM nahIM huuN| yaha vANI 'sahI hai yA galata' use maiM dekhatA rahatA huuN| praznakartA : Apake bhItara kI 'Tepa' nahIM bole, taba vaha 'blenka' nikala jAtI hai kyA? dAdAzrI : sunAI de vaisI Tepa bhI calatI rahatI hai aura sUkSma vANI kI Tepa bhI calatI rahatI hai| praznakartA : 'jJAnI puruSa' paramANu badala sakate haiM? yA phira unakI upasthiti se ve badalate haiM? ke raMga badala sakate haiM, vaha hama kara dete haiN| praznakartA : dUdha meM dahI DAlA, vaha kise kahA jAtA hai? dAdAzrI : jo jama gayA hai, barpha ke rUpa meM ho cuke haiM, una karmoM ko to bhoganA hI pdd'egaa| bhApa aura pAnI ke rUpa meM hoM, unheM 'jJAnI' bhasmIbhUta kara dete haiN| phira bhI khuda to naimittika bhAva meM hI hote haiM, akartA hI rahate haiN| praznakartA : mokSa arthAt kyA? dAdAzrI : mokSa arthAt sarva du:khoM se mukti aura sanAtana paramAnaMda rhe| mokSa arthAt muktbhaav| praznakartA : baMdhana kisase hai? dAdAzrI : ajJAna se| praznakartA : mokSa, vaha sthala hai yA avasthA hai? dAdAzrI : vaha avasthA hai aura vaha yaha 'avasthA' nahIM hai, vaha svAbhAvika avasthA hai| praznakartA : mokSa arthAt svataMtratA? dAdAzrI : hA~, saccI Az2AdI-koI UparI nahIM aura koI anDarahainDa bhI nhiiN| praznakartA : vaisI mukta sthiti saMsAra meM upalabdha hai? dAdAzrI : kyoM nahIM? yaha maiM prApta karake baiThA hI hU~ na! saMsAra meM rahakara upalabdha ho sakatA hai, usake pramANa ke rUpa meM maiM huuN| mujhe dekhakara Apako enkarejamenTa milatA hai ki saMsAra meM bhI upalabdha ho sake aisA dAdAzrI: dUdha meM dahI DAlane ke bAda jJAnI kacha bhI nahIM kara skte| dahI DAlane se pahale kaheM to hogA, bAda meM kucha nahIM hogaa| 'jJAnI karma bhasmIbhUta kara sakate haiM, sirpha vahI eka unakI sattA hai| kucha bhAgoM praznakartA : darzana aura jJAna meM kyA pharka hai?
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________________ (9) vyaktitva saurabha 83 AptavANI-4 dAdAzrI : ajJAna se bilkula nirlepa vijJAna, vaha ebsolyUTa vijJAna dAdAzrI : darzana hI mokSa meM jAne kA mukhya sAdhana hai| jJAna to darzana ke vizeSa bhAva se hai| aura jJAna-darzana mila jAe~, taba cAritra utpanna hotA hai| jJAna kise kahate haiM? darzana dvArA jo jAnA, samajhA, vaha aMdara phiTa ho jAe, phira vaha dUsaroM ko samajhAe, vaisI dazA utpanna ho, taba vaha jJAna kahalAtA hai| vAstava meM to darzana hI kAma karatA hai| praznakartA : jJAna aura zuddhAtmA ke bIca koI saMbaMdha hai? dAdAzrI : zuddhAtmA khuda hI jJAnasvarUpa hai| khuda saMpUrNa jJAnasvarUpa ho jAe taba paramAtmasvarUpa kahalAtA hai| praznakartA : AtmA kriyA nahIM karatA to karma kauna bA~dhatA hai? dAdAzrI : ahaMkAra jo yaha bolatA hai ki, 'maiMne yaha kiyA' vahI karma bA~dhatA hai| praznakartA : jJAyaka aura jijJAsu, una donoM meM kyA pharka hai? dAdAzrI : bahuta pharka hai| unakI to tulanA hI nahIM ho sktii| jJAyaka to khuda paramAtmA huA aura jijJAsu ko to guru banAne par3eMge, DhUMDhate rahanA pdd'egaa| jijJAsA utpanna huI hai yAnI puruSArthI huA kahalAegA, para yaha jJAyaka to khuda hI bhagavAna kahalAtA hai| praznakartA : mumukSu aura jijJAsu meM kyA pharka hai? dAdAzrI : mumukSu arthAt kevala mokSa kI icchAvAlA aura jijJAsu arthAt jise abhI taka sukha kI vAMchanA hai aura vaha jahA~ se mile vahA~ se lene jAtA hai| praznakartA : brahmAMDa ke aMdara aura brahmAMDa ke bAhara se dekhanA matalaba kyA? dAdAzrI : jJeyoM meM tanmayAkAra ho jAe, taba brahmAMDa meM kahalAtA hai| aura jJeyoM ko jJeya ke rUpa meM dekhe, taba brahmAMDa se bAhara kahalAtA hai| praznakartA : ebsolyUTa vijJAna arthAt kyA? praznakartA : AtmA zabda anAdikAla se hai? dAdAzrI : hA~, anAdi kAla se hai| anAdi kAla se jJAna aura jJAna kA tarIkA eka hI hai| nimitta kI mahattA praznakartA : AtmA ko pahacAnane ke lie nimitta kI z2arUrata hai kyA? dAdAzrI : nimitta ke binA to kucha nahIM hotA hai| kisIko hI vaha apavAdarUpa meM hotA hai, use svayaMbuddha kahA jAtA hai| svayaMbuddha ko bhI pichale avatAroM meM jJAnI mile hoM, taba hotA hai| nimitta ke binA to kucha bhI nahIM hotaa| upAdAna bhI jAgRta cAhie aura nimitta bhI caahie| 'upAdAna kA nAma lekara jo taje nimitta, pAe nahIM siddhatva ko rahe bhrAMti meM sthit|' - zrImad raajcNdr| yAnI pahale nimitta caahie| upAdAna ajAgRta ho to bhI jJAna use U~cA le AegA, para nimitta ke binA kucha bhI nahIM hogaa| praznakartA : vaisA sau pratizata nizcita rakhe ki nimitta se AtmAnubhava nahIM hotA hai, to? dAdAzrI : to AtmAnubhava kabhI bhI nahIM hogaa| lAkhoM mana upAdAna jAgRta rakhe, para nimitta nahIM mile to vaha kabhI bhI nahIM hotaa| nimitta kI hI qImata hai saarii| praznakartA : yAnI aisA nizcita rakheM ki nimitta se hI AtmAnubhava hotA hai? dAdAzrI : aisA hai na, upAdAna jAgRti to sabhI ko rakhanI hI cAhie,
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________________ (9) vyaktitva saurabha AptavANI-4 vaha to bahuta logoM ke pAsa hai| parantu nimitta ke binA kyA kareM? dUsarA koI upAya nahIM hai| praznakartA : nimitta puNya se milate haiM yA puruSArtha se? dAdAzrI : puNya se| varnA, puruSArtha kare aura isa upAzraya se usa upAzraya kI ora daur3e, aise anaMta janmoM taka bhaTakatA rahe to bhI nimitta prApta nahIM hoMge aura hamAre puNya hoM to rAste meM hI mila jAte haiN| usameM puNyAnubaMdhI puNya caahie| puNya kA saMbaMdha kaba taka? praznakartA : AtmA kA puNya se koI saMbaMdha hai? dAdAzrI : koI saMbaMdha nahIM hai| para jaba taka bilIfa aisI hai ki 'yaha maiM kara rahA hU~, taba taka saMbaMdha hai| jaba 'maiM nahIM karatA' vaha rAiTa bilIfa baiTha jAe, usake bAda AtmA kA aura puNya kA koI saMbaMdha nahIM dharmadhyAna praznakartA : dharmadhyAna kise kahate haiM? dAdAzrI : koI gAliyA~ de aura krodha ho jAe, vaha raudradhyAna hai| aba koI gAliyA~ de, taba itanA jJAna hAz2ira ho jAe ki yaha gAliyA~ denevAlA nimitta hai aura yaha mere hI karma ke udaya kA phala AyA hai, isalie isameM koI gunahagAra hai hI nhiiN| aisA samajha meM Ae aura khuda ko krodha nahIM Ae taba dharmadhyAna hotA hai| aurtadhyAna aura raudradhyAna ko badalanA, vaha dharmadhyAna hai| zukladhyAna praznakartA : zukladhyAna arthAt kyA? dAdAzrI : zukladhyAna arthAt 'maiM zuddhAtmA ha~', vaisA niraMtara dhyAna rahe, vaha / vaha Tukar3oM meM nahIM honA cAhie, niraMtara honA caahie| zukladhyAna yAnI zAzvata vastu kA dhyAna utpanna honA, vaha aura dharmadhyAna, vaha avasthA kA, azAzvata vastu kA dhyAna utpanna honA, vaha hai| mana aura AtmA praznakartA : mana aura AtmA meM kyA pharka hai? dAdAzrI : mana to ajJAna pariNAma se khar3e hue spaMdanoM kI gA~The haiM, ve phUTeM taba vicAra svarUpa hotA hai| mana to sthUla hai, nizcetana cetana hai aura AtmA to caitanya paramAtmA hai| prema aura bhakti praznakartA : prema aura bhakti, una donoM meM se uttama kauna-sA hai? dAdAzrI : bhagavAna ke prati prema na? yaha saMsArI prema nahIM hai na? bhagavAna ke prati prema ho to hI bhakti utpanna hogI, nahIM to nahIM hogii| binA prema kI bhakti, vaha bhakti hI nahIM mAnI jaaegii| praznakartA : puNya kI vRddhi ho usake lie kyA kareM? dAdAzrI : sAre dina logoM para upakAra karate rhnaa| ina manoyoga, vANIyoga aura dehayoga kA upayoga logoM ke lie karanA, vaha puNya kahalAtA hai| praznakartA : dUsare kA bhalA karane jAe~, para khuda kA bigar3a jAe to? dAdAzrI : khuda kA usameM nahIM bigar3egA, usakI hama gAranTI dete praznakartA : abhI kA yaha kAla aisA hai ki mAlA phereM, japa kareM, tapa kareM, bhakti kareM, cAhe jo kare, phira bhI zAMti nahIM rahatI, vaha kyA hai? dAdAzrI : usakA artha yahI hai ki ThIka rAstA nahIM milA hai, isalie rAstA bdlo|
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________________ (9) vyaktitva saurabha 87 praznakartA: premalakSaNA bhakti kise kahate haiM? dAdAzrI bhagavAna ke sAtha kA prema, vahI kharI premalakSaNA bhakti hai| pUrA dina bhagavAna bhulAe nahIM jaaeN| rupaye ginate samaya bhI yAda rahA kareM, vaha bhagavat prem| abhI taka to lakSmI ke lie prema adhika hai| beTI kI zAdI karavAte samaya bhagavAna vismRta ho jAte haiM, vaha moha hai, mUrchA hai| premalakSaNA bhakti to bahuta ucca bhakti hai| usameM to bhagavAna khuda hAz2ira hote haiN| nirdoSa dRSTi, vahA~ jaga nirdoSa praznakartA: nirdoSatA kisa taraha prApta hotI hai? dAdAzrI : pUre jagat ko nirdoSa dekhoge taba maiMne pUre jagat ko nirdoSa dekhA hai, taba maiM nirdoSa huA huuN| hita karanevAle ko aura ahita karanevAle ko bhI hama nirdoSa dekhate haiN| praznakartA: 'rileTiva' to dikhane meM doSita hI dikhatA hai na? dAdAzrI : doSita kaba mAnA jAtA hai? usakA zuddhAtmA vaisA karatA ho, tb| lekina zuddhAtmA to akarttA hai| vaha kucha bhI kara sake aisA nahIM hai| yaha to DiscArja ho rahA hai, usameM tU use doSita mAna rahA hai| doSa dikheM, usakA pratikramaNa krnaa| jaba taka jagat meM koI bhI jIva doSita dikhatA hai, taba taka samajhanA ki aMdara zuddhikaraNa nahIM huA hai, taba taka indriyajJAna hai| praznakartA: kar3avAhaTa eka prakAra kA ahaMkAra kahalAtA hai? dAdAzrI kar3avAhaTa, miThAsa, ve donoM karma ke phala haiM aura ve karma ke phala, jaba taka ahaMkAra ho taba taka hI hote haiN| acchA karane kA ahaMkAra kiyA to miThAsa AtI hai, burA karane kA ahaMkAra kiyA to kar3avAhaTa AtI hai| praznakartA: isa jagat meM kauna ulajhAtA hai? 88 AptavANI-4 dAdAzrI ajJAna / praznakartA: kSamA mA~ganevAlA bar3A yA kSamA denevAlA bar3A ? : dAdAzrI kSamA to ghor3AgAr3IvAlA, TaiksIvAlA yA maTakIvAlA bhI mA~gane A sakatA hai| para kisIko kSamA nahIM dI hotI hai| isalie kharI qImata kSamA kare usakI hai| kSamA denA bahuta muzkila hai| hamArI sahaja kSamA hotI hai| ApakI bhUla ho jAe to apane Apa kSamA de dI jAtI hai, Apa mA~go yA nahIM mA~go to bhii| karttA huA to bIja par3eMge praznakartA: eka vyakti socatA hai ki mAranA hai aura dUsarA mAratA hai, to una donoM meM kyA pharka hai? dAdAzrI : socatA hai vaha gunahagAra hai aura jo mAra DAlatA hai vaha duniyA kA gunahagAra hai| jise isa janma meM mAra DAlA, vaha pichale janma kA gunahagAra hai, usakA to isa janma meM nikAla ho jaaegaa| jela meM jAegA, loga TIkA-niMdA kreNge| usakA hala ho jAegA, lekina bAda meM bIja nahIM DalA hogA tabhI / praznakartA: bIja kA koI krama hai? aisI koI samajha hai ki yaha bIja DalegA aura yaha nahIM DalegA? dAdAzrI : haaN| Apa kaho ki, 'yaha nAztA kitanA acchA banA hai aura maiMne khAyA to bIja pdd'aa| 'maiMne khAyA' vaha bolane meM harja nahIM hai| kauna khAtA hai, vaha Apako jAnanA cAhie ki 'maiM nahIM khAtA hU~, khAnevAlA khAtA hai|' yAnI karttA bano to hI bIja pdd'egaa| AtmajJAna milA yA prakaTa huA? praznakartA : 'ApakI dazA prApta karanI' aura 'mokSa prApta karanA', ina donoM meM kyA pharka hai? dAdAzrI : kucha bhI pharka nahIM hai| hamArA to mokSa ho hI gayA hai|
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________________ (9) vyaktitva saurabha AptavANI-4 praznakartA : tIna sau chappana DigrI kA nikalavAne ke lie kinhIM pAtra jIvoM kI z2arUrata par3egI? dAdAzrI : hA~, vaise pAtra kI z2arUrata pdd'egii| vaha AyA ki nikalegA hI ekadama se| yAnI jaise-jaise pAtra Ae~ge, vaise-vaise ucca jJAna nikalatA jaaegaa| use prakaTa karanA hamAre hAtha meM nahIM hai| yaha to rikaoNrDa hai| phira pAtra bhI mileMge aura rikaoNrDa bhI bolegii| merI dazA tU prApta kare to terA bhI mokSa ho hI jaaegaa| mokSa bAhara nahIM DhUMDhanA hai, bhItara hI hai| praznakartA : Apane kahA ki Apa apane Apa ko pahacAno to apane Apa ko pahacAnane ke lie kyA kareM? dAdAzrI : vaha to mere pAsa aao| Apa kaha do ki hameM apane Apa ko pahacAnanA hai, taba maiM ApakI pahacAna karavA duuN| praznakartA : Apake pAsa se jJAna milA, vahI AtmajJAna hai na? dAdAzrI : jo milA vaha AtmajJAna nahIM hai, bhItara prakaTa huA vaha AtmajJAna hai| hama bulavAte haiM aura Apa bolo to usake sAtha hI pApa bhasmIbhUta hote haiM aura bhItara jJAna prakaTa ho jAtA hai| vaha Apake bhItara prakaTa ho gayA hai na? mahAtmA : hA~, ho gayA hai| praznakartA : 'jJAnI' kI kRpA prApta karane ke lie kyA karanA cAhie? dAdAzrI : 'jJAnI' kI AjJAe~ pAle, taba jJAnI ko khuda ko hI patA cala jAtA hai, jJAnI ko aura kucha bhI nahIM caahie| jisa gA~va jAnA ho, usa gA~va ke niyama meM hoM to rAjI rahate haiM, dUsarA kucha nhiiN| ....taba vANI vijJAna kaha jAtI hai praznakartA : ApakI sAdhanA kI liMka kaba se cala rahI hai? dAdAzrI : kitane hI kAla se hara eka kI liMkabaddha ToliyA~ hotI hI haiN| ye to saba liMka hI haiN| 1958 meM usa dina yaha jJAna huA thaa| phira bAda meM yaha jJAna prakaTa honA cAhie. ise prakaTa hone ke lie liMka milatI hI rahatI hai| hameM tIna sau chappana DigrI kA jJAna huA hai, para vaha nikalA nahIM hai, usase nIce kA nikalatA hai| aura jisa dina tIna sau chappana DigrI taka kA nikalegA, taba to gaz2aba ho jAegA isa kAla kA! ..vaha kaisA adbhuta sukha praznakartA : Apako jJAna huA taba patA cala gayA thA ki yaha mujhe jJAna huA? dAdAzrI : are, patA kyA? usa ghar3I siddhagati meM baiThA hoU~ vaisA apAra sukha baratA, taba phira usakA patA kaise nahIM calatA ! baiMca para baiThA thA to bhI siddhagati kA sukha barata rahA thA! mere sAtha meM sevA meM baiThe the, unakA to yoM hI mokSa ho gayA! yaha akrama to g2ajaba kA nikalA hai !!! 'jJAnI' vikasita kareM sva-zakti praznakartA : Apake caraNoM meM vidhi karate haiM, usakA kyA artha hai? dAdAzrI: yaha caraNavidhi aMdara AtmA ko deha se alaga karatI hai aura aMtarasukha, svayaMsukha utpanna hotA hai, sArI nirbalatAe~ calI jAtI haiN| jJAnI ke caraNoM meM g2az2aba kI zakti hotI haiM! 'jJAnI' kI upamA? praznakartA : 'jJAnI' kI upamA nahIM hotI? dAdAzrI : unakI upamA nahIM hai| 'jJAnI' kauna? sabhI loga jJAnI nahIM khlaate| jinheM deha kA mAlikIpana z2arA bhI nahIM, vANI kA, mana kA mAlikIpana nahIM hai, jo khuda AtmA meM hI niraMtara rahate haiM, jinameM kiMcit mAtra ahaMkAra nahIM hotA, ve 'jnyaanii'|
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________________ (9) vyaktitva saurabha AptavANI-4 praznakartA : 'jJAnI' meM namratA kI parAkASThA hotI hai? dAdAzrI : namratA to sAmAnya manuSya meM bhI hotI hai, para 'jJAnI' ko to ahaMkAra hI nahIM hotaa| gAliyA~ deM to bhI ahaMkAra nahIM hotaa| praznakartA : 'jJAnI' nispRhI hote haiM? dAdAzrI : 'jJAnI' nispRhI nahIM hote| nispRhI to bahuta loga hote haiN| hameM kucha nahIM cAhie', aisA bahuta loga kahate haiM, para ve nispRhatA kA ahaMkAra hai| 'jJAnI puruSa' saspRha-nispRha hote haiN| yAnI bhautika sukhoM meM nispRha aura Apake AtmA ke lie sspRh| praznakartA : spRhA yAnI icchA? dAdAzrI : spRhA yAnI eka hI prakAra kI icchA nahIM, anekoM prakAra kI, taraha-taraha ke vinAzI sukha bhogane kI icchAe~ hotI haiM, use spRhA kahA jAtA hai| praznakartA : Apa bhaviSya batA sakate haiM? dAdAzrI : hama aisA nahIM kahate, parantu Apa yadi duHkha meM hoM, to Apako saMpUrNa ciMtA rahita kara sakate haiN| 'jAnI' kI parakha praznakartA : 'jJAnI' ko pahacAneM kisa taraha? dAdAzrI : unheM cher3o aura phuphakAreM nahIM to samajhanA ki sacce jJAnI haiN| parIkSA to karanI par3egI na? bApajI meM krodha-mAna-mAyA-lobha dikheM to turanta hI dukAna badala lenaa| praznakartA : jJAnI kI parIkSA kareM, usameM avinaya hotA hai, unheM burA lagatA hai aura khare 'jJAnI' hoM to doSa bhI lagate haiM na? dAdAzrI : yadi khare jJAnI mile hoM to phira ve to ApakA kalyANa hI kareMge, anucita ho jAe to bhI kalyANa hI kreNge| aura jo krodha se bhara jAe~, phana phailAe~, to Apa unase mAphI mA~gakara, pA~ca-pacAsa ke cazme dekara khuza kara denA caahie| aisA karane para bhI zAMta nahIM hoM to unase kaho ki, 'bApajI, merA dimAga z2arA cakrama hai| abhI hI ghara para patnI ke sAtha lar3akara AyA hU~', tAki ve khuza ho jaaeN| kaba taka apanA TAima vahA~ bigAr3eM? AptavANI-kaisI kriyAkArI praznakartA : ApakI AptavANI par3hate hue pariNAma itanA acchA AtA hai ki par3hate hI rheN| dAdAzrI : yaha 'jJAnI puruSa' kI vANI hai aura phira tAz2I hai| abhI ke paryAya haiM, isalie use par3hate hI apane sAre paryAya badalate jAte haiM, vaisevaise AnaMda utpanna hotA jAtA hai| aise karate hue yoM hI samakita ho jAe kisIko ! kyoMki yaha vItarAgI vANI hai| rAga-dveSa rahita vANI ho to kAma hotA hai, nahIM to kAma nahIM hotaa| bhagavAna kI vANI vItarAga thI, usakA asara Aja taka cala rahA hai| 2500 varSa ho cuke haiM, to bhI usakA asara hotA hai, to 'jJAnI puruSa' kI vANI kA bhI asara hotA hai, do-cAra pIr3hI taka to hotA hI hai| vItarAga vANI ke alAvA dUsarA koI upAya nahIM hai, mokSa meM jAne ke lie| praznakartA : AptavANI ke donoM bhAga maiMne par3he haiN| usameM kahIM bhI kisIkA khaMDana yA TIkA nahIM hai, pUrI pustaka meM! dAdAzrI : aisA hai na, ki samakitI jIva kisIkA bhI virodha nahIM krte| unameM khaMDana-maMDana nahIM hotaa| kisalie khaMDana-maMDana? kisalie virodha? virodha to eka prakAra kA ahaMkAra hai, vaha pAgala ahaMkAra kahalAtA dharma to vaha kahalAtA hai ki vikhavAda nahIM ho, amRtavAda ho vaha dharma, vikha arthAt viss|
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________________ (9) vyaktitva saurabha praznakartA : AptavANI par3hate-par3hate 'dAdA' dikhate haiM! dAdAzrI : hA~.... 'dAdA' dikhate haiN| ekjekTa 'dAdA' dikhate haiN| jahA~ icchA kare, vahA~ 'dAdA' dikhe vaise haiM aura apanA phala mile vaisA hai| ye 'dAdA' nahIM haiM, ye dikhate haiM ve to bhAdaraNa ke paTela haiN| ye bolate haiM ve bhI dAdA nahIM hai, vaha to TeparikaoNrDa bolatA hai| 'dAdA' to 'dAdA' haiM! jo vItarAga haiM, caudaha loka ke nAtha haiM !! jinheM 'hama' bhI bhajate haiN| jo bhItara vItarAga baiThe haiM, ve 'dAdA' haiN| ye to bhItara prakaTa ho gae haiM! kitane hI logoM kA kalyANa ho jaaegaa| hAtha se sparza karegA usakA bhI kalyANa ho jAegA! yaha 'akrama vijJAna' hai| abhI kramika cale vaisA nahIM hai| (10) akrama mArga 'jJAnI' kRpA se hI 'prApti' praznakartA : Apane jo akrama mArga kahA, vaha Apake jaise 'jJAnI' ke lie ThIka hai, sarala hai| para hamAre jaise sAmAnya, saMsAra meM rahanevAle, kAma karanevAle logoM ke lie vaha muzkila hai| to usake lie kyA upAya dAdAzrI : 'jJAnI puruSa' ke vahA~ bhagavAna prakaTa ho cuke hote haiM, caudaha loka ke nAtha prakaTa ho cuke hote haiM, vaise 'jJAnI puruSa' mila jAe~ to kyA bAkI rahegA? ApakI zakti se nahIM karanA hai| unakI kRpA se hotA hai| kRpA se sabakucha hI badala jAtA hai| isalie yahA~ to jo Apa mA~go vaha sArA hI hisAba pUrA hotA hai| Apako kucha bhI nahIM karanA hai| Apako to 'jJAnI puruSa' kI AjJA meM hI rahanA hai| praznakartA : parantu khuda ke AtmA kA uddhAra khuda ke AtmA ko hI karanA hai na? dAdAzrI : ThIka hai, para vaha bAta 'kramika mArga' kI hai| yaha to 'akrama vijJAna' hai| yAnI pratyakSa bhagavAna ke pAsa se kAma nikAla lenA hai aura vaha Apako pratikSaNa rahatA hai, ghaMTe-do ghaMTe hI nhiiN| praznakartA : yAnI unheM saba sauMpa diyA ho, to ve hI saba karate haiM? dAdAzrI : ve hI saba kareMge, Apako kucha bhI nahIM karanA hai| karane se to karma bNdhege| Apako to sirpha liphTa meM baiThanA hai| liphTa meM pA~ca
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________________ (10) akrama mArga AptavANI-4 AjJAe~ pAlanI haiN| liphTa meM baiThane ke bAda bhItara uchalakUda mata karanA, hAtha bAhara mata nikAlanA, itanA hI Apako karanA hai| kabhI hI aisA mArga nikalatA hai, vaha puNyazAliyoM ke lie hI hai| yaha to apavAda mArga hai| dasa lAkha varSoM meM ekabAra apavAda mArga nikalatA hai! varlDa kA yaha gyArahavA~ Azcarya kahalAtA hai ! apavAda meM jise TikiTa mila gaI, usakA kAma ho gyaa| ....apUrva aura avirodhAbhAsa praznakartA : isa 'akrama' dvArA mokSa dene kI bAta hai, vaha Apane zurU kI hai yA pahale kucha thA aisA? dAdAzrI : hara bAra dasa lAkha varSoM meM AtA hai| yaha bilkula nayA nahIM hai, para nayA isalie dikhatA hai ki dasa lAkha varSoM se kisI pustaka meM nahIM hotA hai, isalie apUrva kahalAtA hai| par3hA nahIM ho, sunA nahIM ho, jAnA nahIM ho, vaisA yaha apUrva! praznakartA : Apa jJAna dete haiM, usake pIche koI vaijJAnika bhUmikA ho to vaisI koI bAta kIjie na! dAdAzrI: yaha pUrA vijJAna hI hai, avirodhAbhAsI vijJAna hai| aura vijJAna kI bhUmikA kyA hai? Apake sarva pApa bhasmIbhUta kara DAlatA hai| usake binA to Apa sAkSAtkAra prApta hI nahIM kara sakate aura sAkSAtkAra prApta kie binA mokSa meM nahIM jA sakate aura vaha sAkSAtkAra yoga niraMtara rahanA caahie| eka kSaNa bhI sAkSAtkAra yoga nahIM badale, apane Apa hI rahA kare, Apako yAda nahIM karanA pdd'e| AtmA jAnane ke lie, are AtmA jAnane kI bAta to kahA~ gaI para AtmA kucha zraddhA meM Ae ki 'maiM AtmA ha~' vaisI pratIti baiThe usake lie bhayaMkara prayatna logoM ne kie haiN| para vaha zraddhA baiThanI muzkila ho jAtI hai, aisA vicitra kAla hai| aba aise kAla meM AtmA kA anubhava 'jJAnI puruSa' ke pAsa se ho jAnA, ve hI isa akrama jJAna kI siddhiyA~ haiN| sabhI devIdevatAoM kI jo 'jJAnI puruSa' para kRpA barasatI hai, pUrA brahmAMDa jina para khuza hai, usase yaha saba prApta hotA hai| akrama meM pAtratA praznakartA : upAdAna kI yogyatA ke binA, pAtratA ke binA nimitta upakAra kara sakatA hai? yadi kara sakatA hai to kitanA aura kisa prakAra se? dAdAzrI : kramika mArga meM upAdAna kI yogyatA ke binA nimitta upakAra nahIM kara sktaa| ye akramajJAnI cAhe kisIkA bhI kAma kara sakate haiN| unase milA, vahI usakI paatrtaa| yaha to akramavijJAna hai. ghaMTebhara meM hI mukti de, aisA yaha vijJAna hai! jo karor3oM janmoM taka nahIM ho sake, vaha ghaMTebhara meM hI ho jAtA hai! turanta phala denevAlA hai| kramika arthAt kyA ki 'sTepa bAya sttep'| sIr3hI dara sIr3hI car3hanA, parigraha chor3ate-chor3ate U~ce cddh'naa| praznakartA : yadi sattA meM jo doSa Dala gae hoM to akramika mArga se sadguru unakA nAza kara sakate haiM? dAdAzrI : hA~, sabakA nAza kara dete haiN| praznakartA : khada kA AtmA una doSoM kA nAza nahIM kara sakatA, parantu sadguru kara sakate haiM? dAdAzrI: 'jJAnI puruSa' sabakucha hI kara sakate haiN| 'jJAnI puruSa' kyA nahIM kara sakate? sabakucha kara sakate haiM, kyoMki ve kartA nahIM haiN| jo kartA hoM, unase kucha nahIM hotaa| aura 'jJAnI paruSa' to kartA haiM hI nahIM. sirpha nimitta hI haiN| praznakartA : khuda kA AtmA vaha nahIM kara sakatA? dAdAzrI : khuda kA AtmA yadi kara sakatA to abhI taka bhaTakanA hI nahIM par3atA na? nimitta ke binA kabhI bhI ThikAnA nahIM pdd'taa| khuda kA AtmA kucha nahIM kara sktaa| jo baMdhA huA hai, vaha svayaM kisa taraha chUTa sakatA hai?
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________________ 98 AptavANI-4 praznakartA : jindagI meM varSa kama haiM aura rAstA lambA hai, para yaha akrama vastu mila gaI, usase bahuta ullAsa AtA hai! (10) akrama mArga praznakartA : itane sAre jJAnI pUrva meM ho gae haiM, to kisIne aisA akramika mArga batAyA thA? dAdAzrI : hA~, batAyA thaa| RSabhadeva bhagavAna ne batAyA huA hai| RSabhadeva bhagavAna ne akrama mArga batAkara bharata rAjA ko saMsAra meM teraha sau rAniyoM ke sAtha mokSa diyA thA, dUsare ninyAnave beToM ko 'kramika mArga' diyA thaa| praznakartA : vaha to bharata rAjA kI pAtratA hogii| hamArI vaisI yogyatA kahA~ hogI? dAdAzrI : isa 'akrama vijJAna' meM yogyatA dekhI hI nahIM jaatii| mujhase milanA cAhie aura vaha kahe ki merA kalyANa kara dIjie, to bahuta ho gyaa| aho! aisA g2az2aba kA jJAna! yaha hameM 'necurala' dena hai| merI khoja thI, para abhI yaha 'sAinTiphika sarakamasTenzila eviDensa' hai| kudaratI rUpa se 'lAiTa' ho gaI hai, Apa apanA dIyA prakaTa kara jaao| praznakartA : isa 'akrama mArga' meM sAtavIM maMjila para pahu~cakara phira cauthI, pA~cavI para utara sakate haiM kyA? dAdAzrI : nahIM, phira nahIM utrtaa| phira aisA hai na, ki yadi khuda ko jAna-bUjhakara khoda DAlanA ho, pheMka denA ho, to use kauna roka sakatA hai? bAkI khuda kI icchA ke binA koI girAnevAlA nahIM hai| yahA~ para hI mokSa ho jAnA caahie| udhAra mokSa hameM nahIM caahie| mokSa arthAt muktbhaav| yahA~ para hI ciMtA, varIz2a nahIM hotI, koI asara nahIM hotA, hamArA UparI koI hai nahIM, aisA anubhava meM AtA hai| yaha anubhava meM AnA hI caahie| anubhava ke binA to kAma kA hI nahIM, anubhava ke binA to saba ghoTAlevAlA khlaaegaa| keza' caahie| isalie 'disa iz2a da keza bainka oNpha DivAina solyushn|' dAdAzrI : aisA hai na, aisA kabhI hotA nahIM hai aura huA to apanA kAma nikAla lenA hai| ullAsa to AegA hI na! majhe yaha jJAna prakaTa huA, taba mujhe bhI ullAsa AyA ki aisA g2az2aba kA jJAna ! g2az2aba kI siddhiyA~ utpanna huI haiN| kyoMki isa varlDa meM aisI koI cIja nahIM hai ki jisakI mujhe bhIkha ho| mAna kI bhIkha, lakSmI kI bhIkha, kIrti kI bhIkha, viSayoM kI bhIkha, ziSyoM kI bhIkha, maMdira banavAne kI bhIkha, kisI bhI cIz2a kI bhIkha hameM nahIM thI, taba yaha pada prApta haA hai! phira bhI yaha 'sAinTiphika sarakamasTenziyala eviDensa' haiN| aba isa pada ke AdhAra para Apako vahI dazA prApta ho jAtI hai| jinakA nididhyAsana kareM usa rUpa ho jAte haiN| praznakartA : pUrvajanma ke yoga se hI 'akrama' milatA hai na? dAdAzrI : yaha eka hI sAdhana hai ki jisake dvArA mujhase bheMTa ho sakatI hai| koTi janmoM ke puNya jageM, taba aisA yoga A milatA hai| bAqI saba kramika mArga kahalAte haiN| kramika mArga vaha 'rileTiva' mArga hai| 'rileTiva' arthAt bhautika phala detA hai aura mokSa kI ora dhIredhIre 'sTepa bAya sTepa' le jAtA hai| tyAga aura tapa karate-karate aMta meM ahaMkAra zuddha karanA pdd'egaa| phira vahA~ para Age mokSa kA daravAjA milegaa| krodha-mAna-mAyA-lobha, viSaya, sAMsArika bhAva-ina sabase ahaMkAra zaddha karanA par3atA hai, taba vahA~ para mokSa kA daravAjA khulatA hai| kramika mArga to bahuta muzkiloMvAlA hai| aura yahA~ akrama mArga meM to 'jJAnI puruSa' ApakA ahaMkAra zuddha kara dete haiN| ahaMkAra aura mamatA donoM nikAla dete haiM, phira rahA kyA? phira Apa apane svarUpa ke anubhava meM A jAte ho| AtmA kA anubhava ho jAe Apako, tabhI kAma hotA hai|
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________________ 100 AptavANI-4 qAbU nahIM hai| kisalie qAbU nahIM hai? taba kaheM ki, 'use khuda ko roMga bilIfa baiThI hai|' 'maiM caMdUlAla hU~' vahI sabase bar3I 'roMga bilIfa' hai| praznakartA : vyavahArika rUpa se aisA mAnanA par3atA hai| (11) AtmA aura ahaMkAra sanAtana cetana praznakartA : cetana kahA~ se AyA? usakI utpatti kahA~ se huI? dAdAzrI : usakI utpatti nahIM hai aura vyaya bhI nahIM hai| ye to jIva kI avasthAe~ haiN| avasthAe~ badalatI haiM, vastu vaisI kI vaisI rahatI hai| kudarata arthAt... praznakartA : kudarata arthAt kyA? dAdAzrI : kudarata arthAt 'sAinTiphika sarakamasTenziyala eviDensa' dAdAzrI : vyavahArika rUpa se mAno to harja nahIM hai, para Apako koI gAlI de to use Apa svIkAra karate hoM yA nahIM? usakA Apa para asara nahIM hotA hai na? praznakartA : hotA hai| dAdAzrI: to Apa vyavahArika rUpa se 'caMdUlAla nahIM ho', vAstavika rUpa se hI 'caMdUlAla' ho, vaisI 'roMga bilIfa' baiThI hai| logoM ne kahA, 'caMdUlAla', isalie Apane bhI vaisA mAna liyaa| phira 'isa strI kA pati hU~, isa bacce kA bApa hU~, maiM aisA hU~, maiM kalekTara hU~, phalAnA huuN|' aisI kitanI 'roMga bilIfa' haiM? praznakartA : bahuta saarii| dAdAzrI : ye roMga bilIfa baiThI haiM, isalie hI deha kA jIva para kaMTrola hai| yadi roMga bilIpheM nikala jAe~ to deha kA jIva para bilkula kaMTrola nahIM rhtaa| AtmA khuda anaMta zaktivAlA hai, para ina roMga bilIfoM ke kAraNa pha~sa gayA hai| ve roMga bilIpheM kisase jAe~gI? 'jJAnI puruSa' rAiTa bilIfa deM, jise apane zAstra samyak darzana kahate haiM, vaha samyak darzana mila jAe taba jaaeNgii| nahIM to 'maiM caMdUlAla hU~' mAnane se kabhI bhI dina nahIM bdleNge| vAstava meM Apa 'khuda' caMdalAla nahIM ho| bAya 'rileTiva' vyU poinTa se Apa caMdUlAla ho, bAya 'riyala' vyU poinTa se Apa kyA ho? vaha patA lagAnA cAhie na? nahIM lagAnA cAhie? arthAt abhI 'Apake' Upara deha kA hI 'kaMTrola' hai| sirpha deha kA hI nahIM, mana kA bhI kaMTrola' hai! mana kampalITa phiz2ikala hai| ina sabhI kA 'kaMTrola' abhI Apake Upara hai| are, deha ke jIva para kaMTrola kI kahA~ bAta karate ho| eka pha~sI huI ho, vaha darda kare, usakA bhI kaMTrola jIva ke Upara hai! praznakartA : ye vaijJAnika saMyogika pramANa ikaTThe hoM to unake pIche koI zakti to hai na? dAdAzrI : vaha jIvaMta zakti nahIM hai, vaha jar3a zakti hai| jar3a aura cetana kI miksacara zakti hai| usameM jaDa kA vizeSa bhAva ho gayA hai| isameM AtmA to anAdi kAla se jaisA hai vaisA, vaise kA vaisA hI rahA hai| kisakA kisa para qAbU? praznakartA : jIva zarIra para kAbU rakhatA hai yA zarIra jIva para kAbU rakhatA hai? dAdAzrI : vahI prazna hai na! abhI jIva kA isa zarIra para bilkula
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________________ (11) AtmA aura ahaMkAra 101 102 AptavANI-4 khada kartA hote na to koI arthI meM hI nahIM jaataa| saMDAsa jAne kI zakti nahIM hai kisImeM bhii| phira bhI usakI dasarI khada kI zaktiyA~ haiM. para ve zaktiyA~ prakaTa nahIM huI haiN| aura jo 'maiM karatA hU~', aisA kahate haiM ve to 'khuda' kI zakti se bAhara kI vastu hai| loga kahate haiM na ki 'maiMne khAyA, maiMne pIyA, mujhe bhUkha lagI!''lagI hai taba bujhA de na !' taba kahatA hai, 'nahIM, aMdara kucha DAle bagaira bujhegI nahIM!' ahaMkAra pahale ho jAtA hai, usake bAda yaha zarIra banatA hai, usake bAda ye bAhara ke pariNAma Ate haiN| ahaMkAra se karma baMdhate haiM aura usakA yaha phala hai| ye mana-vacana-kAyA, ve sabhI phala haiN| ahaMkAra 'kaoNz2a' hai aura ye mana-vacana-kAyA, ve 'iphekTsa ' haiN| 'kaoNz2ez2a enDa iphekTa' 'iphekTa enDa kaoNz2ez2a' aise calatA hI rahatA hai| 'kaoNjeja' ko 'jJAnI puruSa' baMda kara dete haiN| isalie mAtra 'iphekTa' hI rahate haiM, phira vApisa 'iphekTiva boDI' (pAriNAmika deha) nahIM banatI hai| dharma : bheda svarUpa se - abheda svarUpa se ahaMkAra kA svarUpa praznakartA : vAstava meM AvAgamana AtmA kA hai yA deha kA? dAdAzrI : AvAgamana na to deha kA hai, na hI AtmA kA, ahaMkAra kA hI AvAgamana hai| yaha deha hai, vaha to usakA sArA sAmAna lekara AtI hai, parantu mUla AvAgamana to ahaMkAra hI karatA hai| jisakA ahaMkAra khatma ho gayA, usakA AvAgAmana baMda ho gyaa| praznakartA : ahaMkAra kI saccI paribhASA kyA hai? dAdAzrI : ahaMkAra kI saccI paribhASA jagat samajhA nahIM hai| loga jo samajhe haiM, usa anusAra nahIM hai| saba khuda kI bhASA meM hI samajhate haiN| hara eka kI khuda kI bhASA alaga hotI hai na? para vaha bhagavAna kI bhASA ke sAmane nahIM clegii| vahA~ to TesTa lenevAle haiM, vahA~ vaha kAma nahIM aaegii| ahaMkAra yAnI khuda nahIM karatA hai, phira bhI kahatA hai ki 'maiM karatA hU~' vaha Aropita bhAva hai| use ahaMkAra kahA jAtA hai| ahaMkAra mUla vastu hai aura usameM se mAna, abhimAna, garva, ghemarAjI (atyaMta ghamaMDI, jo khuda apane sAmane auroM ko bilkula tuccha mAne) saba taraha-taraha ke zabda bane haiN| abhimAna kaisI cIz2a hai? usameM Aropita bhAva arthAt ki ahaMkAra to hai hI, lekina 'mere cAra baMgale haiM, do gAr3iyA~ haiM' aisA pradarzana kare, vaha abhimAna kahalAtA hai| jo khuda nahIM karatA hai, use karane kA Aropa kare, vaha ahaMkAra hai| praznakartA : gItA meM ahaMkAra ko mUla vastu kahA hai, utpatti se pahale kI vaha vastu honI cAhie na? dAdAzrI : vaha utpatti se pahale kI hI vastu hai| gItA kI bAta saccI hai| utpatti ke bAda ahaMkAra nahIM hotaa| mUla to pahale ahaMkAra ho jAtA hai aura phira utpatti hotI hai| isa bhava meM Apane jo-jo karma kie. unakA jo ahaMkAra karate ho, usakA phala agale bhava meM AtA hai| yaha to karatA hai koI dUsarA aura Apa bhrAMti se mAnate ho ki maiMne kiyaa| yadi duniyA meM dharma do prakAra ke hote haiM : eka - AtmA-paramAtmA ko abheda svarUpa se pahacAnanA, vaha eka prakAra kA dharma hai| dUsarA- AtmAparamAtmA ko bheda svarUpa se pahacAnanA, yAnI maiM aura bhagavAna donoM alaga haiM, usa prakAra se pahacAnanA, vh| pahale prakAra kA dharma aisA hai ki AtmA hI paramAtmA hai, vaisA bhAna hotA hai| yaha saccA dharma hai, usake bAda mukti milatI hai| khuda kA AtmA hI paramAtmA hai, aisA bhAna ho, taba mukti milatI hai| aura AtmA-paramAtmA alaga haiM, jaba taka aisA bhAna hai, taba taka puNya baMdhatA hai yA pApa baMdhatA hai aura isalie kAraNa zarIra utpanna hotA rahatA hai aura anaMta janmoM taka bhaTakatA rahatA hai| bhagavAna alaga aura maiM alaga aisA kahate rahate haiM, vaha bhrAMta mAnyatA hai| vAstava meM bhagavAna aura Apa eka hI ho, para Apako vaha samajha meM nahIM aataa| Apa aura paramAtmA eka hI ho, aisA samajhAnevAlA koI milatA nahIM hai, vaha mile to Apako abheda svarUpa kA bhAna krvaae| ye bhagavAna alaga lagate haiM, ve ApakI
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________________ (11) AtmA aura ahaMkAra 103 kamajoriyA~ haiM, isalie hI Apa jIva svarUpa meM ho| aura bhagavAna meM kamaz2orI nahIM haiM, isalie ApakI kamajoriyA~ jAe~gI, to phira bhagavAnasvarUpa kA niraMtara sAkSAtkAra rahegA / yaha to loga 'caMdU-caMdU' karate rahate haiM isalie use asara ho jAtA hai ki, 'maiM caMdU huuN|' isa bhrAMti kA asara phira jAtA nhiiN| bAkI khuda hI paramAtmA hai ! taraNatAraNa hI tAreM praznakartA: usa paramAtmA kI 'sTeja' taka jAne ke lie kyA karanA par3atA hai ? dAdAzrI : usake lie 'jJAnI puruSa' ke pAsa se kRpA prApta karanI caahie| yadi dhIre-dhIre usa sTeja meM jAnA ho to 'jJAnI puruSa' ke pAsa se AjJA lenI cAhie aura yadi kRpA prApta kara le, to vaha pada ghaMTebhara meM hI mila jaae| aura nahIM to dhIre-dhIre, dhIre-dhIre jaanaa| jise bahuta jaldI nahIM ho, abhI indriyoM ke rasa bhogane kI icchA raha gaI ho, saMsAra kI icchA raha gaI ho, vaha dhIre-dhIre jAe aura jise isa saMsAra ke sukha meM bhI duHkha lagatA rahatA ho, sukha bhI sahana nahIM hotA ho, to phira vaha mukti kA adhikArI ho gyaa| phira 'jJAnI puruSa' use mukti dete haiN| kyoMki 'jJAnI puruSa' khuda taraNatAraNa hue haiM, khuda tara gae haiM aura aneka logoM ko tArane meM samartha haiN| praznakartA: vaisI gurukRpA ho jAe to phira mehanata kama karanI pdd'egii| dAdAzrI : abhI Apa jo mehanata kara rahe ho, vaha sArI bekAra jaaegii| aba vaha bilkula bekAra nahIM jAtI, jo kAma ghaMTebhara meM ho jAe, usake badale pUrA sAla bigar3atA hai| aura guru sira para hoM, ve guru jahA~ taka pahu~ce hoM, vahA~ taka hameM le jAte haiN| aura 'jJAnI puruSa' TheTha taka pahu~ce hue hote haiM, isalie ve hameM TheTha taka le jAte haiN| ////////// praznakartA zakti' hai ? (12) vyavasthA 'vyavasthita' kI 'vyavasthita zakti' jagat niyaMtraNa kisI zakti se hai, vahI 'vyavasthita dAdAzrI : vahI 'vyavasthita zakti' hai| yaha niyaMtraNa yAnI kaisA hai? hameM pAnI Upara car3hAnA ho to paMpa calAnA par3atA hai aura pAnI khAlI kara denA ho to? Apako kucha bhI nahIM karanA pdd'taa| koI pUche ki aisA kyoM? kyoMki pAnI kA svabhAva hI hai ki nicale sthAna para cale jaanaa| vaise hI yaha niyaMtraNa bhI svabhAva se hI hotA hai| praznakartA : jagat meM jo mUla tatva haiM, una para to 'vyavasthita' kA qAbU hai na? dAdAzrI : kisIkA bhI kisI para qAbU hai hI nhiiN| beqAbU TolI hai yaha sArI, sabhI svataMtra haiN| 'vyavasthita' to Apake jAnane ke lie hai, samajhane ke lie haiN| bAkI unheM kucha bhI par3I nahIM hai| 'vyavasthita' to Apako mokSa ke sTezana taka jAne kI TikiTa hai| vaha TikiTa ho to Apase Age bar3hA jaaegaa| koI kisIke basa meM nahIM hai, saba svataMtra haiN| usameM AtmA paramAtmA hai, cetana hai| phira bhI dUsare usakI sunate nahIM haiN| dUsare tatva kahate haiM ki, 'tU paramAtmA hai, usameM hameM kyA? tU judA aura hama judA hai !' kAlacakra ke anusAra.... praznakartA : ye yuga, satyuga kaliyuga kisa taraha bane ?
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________________ (12) vyavasthA 'vyavasthita' kI 105 AptavANI-4 dAdAzrI : yaha to kAlacakra hotA hai| jaise yaha gola cakra ghUmatAghUmatA aise utaratA hai, vaise hI yaha utaratA huA kAla hai| isake bAda vApisa car3hatA huA kAla aaegaa| praznakartA : to phira pApI aura puNyazAliyoM kA kyA doSa? dAdAzrI : kucha bhI doSa nahIM hai| vAstava meM khuda doSita hai hI nahIM, parantu khuda kahatA hai ki, 'maiMne yaha kiyaa|' galata kare yA saccA kare, phira bhI 'maiMne kiyA', aisA kahatA hai| vaha khuda hastAkSara kara detA hai, usake lie bhugatanA par3atA hai| yaha khuda nahIM krtaa| nahIM karanA ho, phira bhI kudarata usase z2abaradastI karavAtI hai| naimittika dhakke se hotA hai saaraa| ye satayuga aura sAre yuga kaise haiM? abhI dina meM hameM cane lene hoM to thor3e-bahuta milate haiM, so mana, do sau mana mila sakate haiN| parantu rAta ko DhAI baje jAe~ to? kitane cane mileMge? vaisA hai| kAla ke anusAra hotA rahatA hai| sevA meM samarpaNatA praznakartA : to isa jagat ke lie hameM kucha bhI karane kA nahIM rahatA hai? dAdAzrI : haaN| usakA phala puNya milatA hai, mokSa nahIM miltaa| praznakartA : usakA zreya sAkSAtkArI paramAtmA ko sauMpa deM, to bhI mokSa nahIM milatA? dAdAzrI : aise phala sauMpA nahIM jA sakatA na kisiise| praznakartA : mAnasika samarpaNa kareM to? dAdAzrI : vaisA samarpaNa kare to koI phala le hI nahIM aura koI de hI nhiiN| vaha to sirpha kahane ke lie samarpaNa hai| usakA phala khuda ko hI milatA hai| kudarata ke ghara aisA nyAya hai ki 'bhugate usakI bhuul'| praznakartA : 'maiM karatA hU~' vaha bhAva chUTa jAe to? dAdAzrI : karttAbhAva chUTa jAe aura svarUpajJAna ho jAe, to karma nahIM bNdhtaa| kyA naI hI samAja-racanA? praznakartA : duniyA meM kucha loga logoM ko mArate haiM, kATate haiM aura naI samAja-racanA khar3I karate haiM, usake bAda kyA hogA? dAdAzrI : yaha samudra hai, isa samudra meM hamale hote haiM, ve Apane dekhe haiM kyA? bar3I-bar3I machaliyA~, sau-sau mana kI, dasa-dasa mana kI, aMdara hI aMdara lar3atI haiM, vaha saba dekhA hai Apane? praznakartA : basa, vaisI hI lar3AIyA~ calatI hI raheMgI, aisA? dAdAzrI : haaN| yaha kudarata kA kAma hai| koI isameM kucha nahIM karate becAre! yaha 'vyavasthita' karavAtA hai| ye lar3AIyA~, vaoNra, saba kudaratI hai| Apako yadi saMsAra pasaMda nahIM ho to akartA hokara, 'jJAnI puruSa' ke kahe anusAra raho to hala A jaae| isameM kisIkI sattA nahIM hai| varlDa meM kisIkI saMDAsa jAne kI bhI sattA nahIM hai| jaba kudarata meM saMyoga hoMge tabhI saba hogaa| dAdAzrI : Apako karanA thA hI nahIM, yaha to ahaMkAra khar3A ho gayA hai| sirpha ye manuSya hI ahaMkAra karate haiM, karttApana kaa| praznakartA : ye bahana DaoNkTara haiN| eka garIba pezenTa AyA, usake prati anukaMpA hotI hai, ilAja karatI hai, parantu Apake kahe anusAra to phira anukaMpA karane kA koI savAla hI nahIM rahatA na? dAdAzrI: vaha anukaMpA bhI kudaratI hai, para vApisa ahaMkAra karate haiM ki, 'maiMne kaisI anukaMpA kI!' ahaMkAra nahIM kare to koI harja nhiiN| parantu ahaMkAra kie binA rahate nahIM haiM na? praznakartA : isa jagat kI sevA meM paramAtmA kI sevA kA bhAva rakhakara sevA kare, vaha pharja meM AtA hai na?
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________________ (12) vyavasthA 'vyavasthita' kI 107 praznakartA : yaha jagat to lakjurIyasa banatA jA rahA hai, jar3a hotA jA rahA hai| dAdAzrI : kaba taka lakjuriyasa nahIM the? jaba taka kucha dekhA nahIM thA, taba taka hii| isalie jinhoMne dekhA nahIM thA, ye vaise nirmohI the| gA~va meM dekhA hI nahIM thA na? praznakartA : nahIM milA to brahmacArI the, aisA? dAdAzrI : abhI jo moha dikhatA hai, vaha dekhane kA moha hai| aura isa moha meM se jJAna utpanna haA hai| ThokareM khA-khAkara dama nikala gayA hai aura usa moha meM se vairAgya janmA hai| (13) vyavahAradharma : svAbhAvikadharma sukha prApta karane ke lie dharma kauna-sA? praznakartA : dharma kyA hai? dharma kise karanA hai? dharma pAlana karane kA artha kyA hai? dAdAzrI : ye sAre dharma cala rahe haiM, ve vyavahArika dharma haiM, vyavahArika matalaba vyavahAra calAne ke lie| vaiSNava dharma, jaina dharma, zaiva dharma vagairaha saba vyavahAra dharma hai| aba isa roDa para gAr3iyoM kA vyavahAra hotA hai yA nahIM hotA? unakA kyA dharma hai ki TakarAoge to Apa mara jaaoge| TakarAne meM jokhima hai isalie kisIke sAtha TakarAnA nahIM, kisIko duHkha yA trAsa mata denA, vaisA vAhanadharma bhI kahatA hai, vaise hI yaha vyavahAradharma bhI kahatA hai ki kisIko trAsa mata denaa| Apako sukha cAhie to dUsaroM ko sukha denaa| vahI manuSya Apako sukha nahIM de sake to dUsare manuSya sukha deMge aapko| yadi duHkha doge to koI na koI manuSya Apako duHkha degA hI, yaha vyavahArika dharma kahalAtA hai| jaba ki saccA dharma to khuda kI vastu kA svabhAva hai| vaha Atmadharma hai, khuda kA svAbhAvika dharma hai, usameM to niraMtara paramAnaMda hI hai| saccA dharma to 'jJAnI puruSa' AtmA de deM taba se apane Apa hI calatA rahatA hai aura vyavahAradharma to hameM karanA par3atA hai, sIkhanA par3atA hai| sarva samAdhAna se, sukha hI praznakartA : dharma meM aura vyavahAra meM sabhI jagaha lAgU ho aura sukha
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________________ (13) vyavahAradharma : svAbhAvikadharma 109 110 AptavANI-4 rahe aisI kauna-sI cIz2a hai? dAdAzrI : hamAre pAsa svarUpa kA jJAna le jAe to use sabakucha sukhavAlA hI hotA hai| aura jisake aMtarAya hoM aura jJAna nahIM lenA ho to ve hameM saba pUcha leM aura samajha leM ki 'yaha saMsAra kisa taraha calatA hai, yaha saba kyA hai?' taba bhI use sukha rhe| samAdhAna rahe, vahI dharma hai| kucha aMzoM taka samAdhAna aura kacha aMzoM taka asamAdhAna rahe, vaha 'rileTiva' dharma hai, vaha pahalI sIr3hI hai| phira 'riyala' dharma meM AtA hai, jisameM hara eka saMyoga meM samAdhAna rahanA caahie| samAdhAna ho to hI zAMti rahegI na? jIva-mAtra kyA DhUMDhatA hai? AnaMda DhaMDhatA hai, parantu kSaNabhara bhI AnaMda nahIM miltaa| zAdI meM jAe yA nATaka meM jAe, para vApisa phira du:kha AtA hai| jisa sukha ke bAda duHkha Ae, use sukha kaheMge hI kaise? vaha to marjI kA AnaMda kahalAtA hai| sukha to paramAnenTa hotA hai| yaha to TemparerI sukha haiM aura phira kalpita haiM, mAnA huA hai| hara eka AtmA kyA DhUMDhatA hai? hamezA ke lie sukha, zAzvata sukha DhUMDhatA hai| vaha 'isameM se AegA, isameM se AegA, yaha le lU~, aisA karU~, baMgalA banavAU~ to sukha AegA, gAr3I lU~ to sukha aaegaa|' aise karatA rahatA hai| para kucha AtA nhiiN| balki aura adhika jaMjAloM meM pha~satA hai| sukha khuda ke bhItara hI hai| AtmA meM hI hai| isalie AtmA prApta kare to sukha hI prApta hogaa| rAta ko sAr3he dasa baje so gae aura kisIko do sau rupaye udhAra die hoM aura vicAra Ae ki 'Aja usakI muddata pUrI ho gaI, usakA kyA hogA?' phira nIMda AegI kyA? usa ghar3I para samAdhAna hone kA sAdhana cAhie yA nahIM cAhie? samAdhAna ke binA to manuSya meDa ho jAtA hai, prezara bar3ha jAtA hai aura hArTa ke darda khar3e ho jAte haiN| samAdhAna ho jAe, to kucha caina mile| ___ bhagavat upAya hI, sukha kA kAraNa praznakartA : Apane 'TemparerI' AnaMda kahA hai aura dUsarA 'paramAnenTa' AnaMda kahA hai, para hamane jaba taka vaha sukha nahIM bhogA, taba taka una donoM meM pharka kisa taraha patA cale? dAdAzrI : usakA patA hI nahIM cltaa| jaba taka paramAnenTa sukha nahIM AyA hai taba taka ise hI Apa sukha kahate ho| eka gobara meM rahanevAlA kIr3A ho, use phUla meM rakheM to vaha mara jAegA, kyoMki use isa sukha kI Adata hai, paricita hai, usakI prakRti hI aisI bana gaI hai| aura phUla ke kIr3e ko gobara meM acchA nahIM lgegaa| loga kaheMge ki paisoM meM sukha hai, para kucha sAdhu mahArAja aise hote haiM ki unheM paise deM to bhI ve nahIM lete| Apa mujhe pUre jagat kA sonA dene Ao to bhI maiM vaha nahIM lN| kyoMki majhe paise meM sukha hai hI nhiiN| isalie paise meM sakha nahIM hai| yadi paisoM meM sukha ho to sabhI ko usameM se vaha sukha laganA caahie| jaba ki AtmA kA sukha to sabako hI mahasUsa hotA hai| kyoMki vaha saccA sukha hai, sanAtana sukha hai| vaha AnaMda to kalpanA meM bhI nahIM Ae, utanA adhika AnaMda hai! jahA~ AtmA-paramAtmA ke alAvA dUsarI koI bAta nahIM hotI, vahA~ para saccA AnaMda hai, jahA~ saMsAra kI kiMcit mAtra bhI bAta nahIM hotI ki saMsAra meM se kisa taraha phAyadA ho, kisa taraha guNa utpanna hoN| loga sadguNa utpanna karanA cAhate haiN| ye guNa, sadguNa, durguNa, ye saba anAtma vibhAga haiM aura vinAzI haiN| phira bhI logoM ko unakI jarUrata hai| hara eka ko hara eka kI apekSA ke anusAra alaga-alaga caahie| lekina jise saMpUrNa vItarAga pada cAhie to ina sAre sadguNoM, dargaNoM se pare honA cAhie aura 'khada kauna hai' vaha jAnanA cAhie aura vaha jAnane ke bAda AtmA-paramAtmA kI bAtoM meM hI rahe, to usase saMpUrNa vItarAga dazA utpanna hotI hai| praznakartA : saccA sukha mila nahIM rahA aura samaya bItatA jA rahA dAdAzrI : saccA sukha cAhie to hameM saccA bananA pdd'egaa| aura
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________________ (13) vyavahAradharma : svAbhAvikadharma 111 112 AptavANI-4 saMsArI sukha cAhie to saMsArI bananA pdd'egaa| saMsArI sukha pUraNa-galana svabhAva kA hai, AtA hai aura phira uDa jAtA hai, vaha dvaMdvavAlA hai| 'maiM kauna hU~', usakA khayAla A jAe, bAda meM hI hamezA saccA sukha baratatA hai| praznakartA : saMsAra meM sukha kaba milegA? dAdAzrI : saMsAra meM sukha hotA hI nahIM hai| parantu bhagavat upAya lo to kucha zAMti lagatI hai aura jJAna upAya se hamezA ke lie zAMti lagatI hai| abhI ninyAnave pratizata duHkha aura eka pratizata sukha, sAMsArika sukha hai| satyuga meM sukha the| kAla kA to kyA doSa? praznakartA : samaya ke kAraNa sukha-duHkha hote haiM? dAdAzrI : yaha to samasaraNa mArga hai| ye jIva pravAha meM baha rahe haiM, yAnI ki gati kara rahe haiN| gati kisa taraha nApI jAe? dravya-kSetra-kAla aura bhAva mila jAe~ taba kArya dikhatA hai| kAla pratyakSa dikhatA hai isalie loga kAla ko hI gAte rahate haiN| isa kaliyuga meM, isa dUSamakAla meM hama Ae, usameM apanA karttApana kitanA hai? usameM apanA kitanA hissA hai? pUre jagat ko bhItara apAra jalana hai| niraMtara aMtaradAha hotA rahatA hai| kisIne kahA ki, 'caMdUbhAI meM akkala nahIM hai' to bhItara asara ho jAtA hai, aMtaradAha lagatA hai| aMtaradAha yAnI kyA? bhItara paramANa jalate haiM aura eka jale, taba dUsare ko sulagAtA hai, dUsarA tIsare ko sulagAtA hai, aisA niraMtara calatA rahatA hai, 'ilekTrisiTI' kI taraha jalatA rahatA hai, vedanA kI taraha bhugatanA par3atA hai| vizeSa paramANu sulageM, taba loga kahate haiM ki, 'merI jAna jalatI rahatI hai|' vaha kisa taraha sahana ho? jisakA aMtaradAha gayA, taba se hI mukti kI naubateM bajIM! 'normeliTI' se bAhara calA gayA hai, isalie 'poijana' ho gayA hai| Aja isa bhautika vijJAna se apAra bAhyasukha ho gae haiM, jaba ki dUsarI ora aMtarasukha sUkha gayA hai! aMtarasukha aura bAhyasukha, ina donoM kA kucha 'ikvala bailensa' (saMtulana) honA caahie| thor3A-bahuta kama-jyAdA ho gayA ho to calegA, para usakA anupAta honA caahie| bhautika sukha nIce gayA ho to calA sakate haiM, para Aja to AMtarika sukha khatma ho gayA hai| isa amarIkA meM to bilkula khatma ho gayA hai| vahA~ kI prajA ko to bIsabIsa goliyA~ khAe~, taba muzkila se nIMda AtI hai! amarIkA ne eka tarapha apAra bhautika sukha prApta kie haiM, jaba ki dUsarI tarapha aMtarasukha khatma ho gayA!! yaha kaisA sAinsa!!! manuSya aMtarazAMti ke lie bAhara bhAgadaur3a karate haiM, para isa taraha bhAgadaur3a se zAMti milegI? aMtarazAMti ho tabhI bAhara zAMti milegii| isalie pahale aMtara meM sukha hai vaisA zraddhA meM A jAnA cAhie, taba aMtarazAMti milegii| bhagavAna ne kyA kahA thA ki aMtarasukha aura bAhyasukha kA kA~TA dekhate rhnaa| aMtarasukha kama ho aura bAhyasukha bar3he to samajhanA ki maranevAlA hai| kA~TA thor3A-bahuta U~cA-nIcA ho to calA sakate haiM, para yaha to aMtarasukha kI DaMDI bilkula U~cI calI gaI, taba terI kyA dazA hogI? ye bAhara ke sukha bar3hA die, cAlIsa lAkha ke phleTa lie hoM, khAne-pIne kA bahutAyata meM ho, Tokare bhara-bharakara phrUTa ke hoM, taba sAhaba ko blaDa prezara aura hArTa aTeka Ae hue hote haiM aura memasAhiba ko DAyAbiTIz2a huA hotA hai ! una donoM ke mu~ha para DaoNkTara ne sIkI (pazuoM ke mu~ha para bA~dhI jAnevAlI jAlI) bA~dha dI hotI hai!!! phira yaha saba khAe kauna? taba kaheM, ghara ke ve cUhe, naukara aura rasoiye khA-pIkara gola-maTola ho gae hote haiM! phleTa meM jAo to jaise zamazAna meM nahIM A gae hoM! seTha ke sAtha bAteM karo to bhI nire ahaMkAra se bAta karatA hai vaha / seTha maha~ge bhAva kI cAya pilAte haiM, para jaba taka bhAvarUpI dravya nahIM par3A hai, taba taka cAhe jaisA solaha AnI kA sonA ho, phira bhI bekAra hai| seTha kA mu~ha dekheM to jaise ki seTha ha~sanA hI bhUla gae hoM, vaisA lagatA hai! yaha aMtarasukha - bAhyasukha Aja kA bhautika vijJAna 'AuTa oNpha bailensa' ho gayA hai,
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________________ (13) vyavahAradharma : svAbhAvikadharma 113 114 AptavANI-4 bAhyasukha kI kaisI bheMTa(!)? aMtarazAMti tRpti detI hai aura bAhya zAMti se lobha bar3hatA rahatA hai| jahA~ svArtha buddhi hai, vahA~ aMtarazAMti nahIM rhtii| ahaMkAra vilaya hone se sanAtana sukha jitanA ulTA cale utanA igoiz2ama bar3hatA hai aura jitanA igoijama vilaya ho utanA sukha baratatA rahatA hai| hamArA igoijama khatma ho gayA hai, isalie niraMtara sanAtana sukha rahatA hai| duHkha meM bhI sukha rahe, vaha kharA sukha hai| koI apamAna kare taba bhI khuda ko bhItara sukha lagatA hai, taba aisA hotA hai ki, 'are, yaha kaisA sukha!' AtmA meM paramasukha hI hai, lekina kaluSita bhAva ke kAraNa vaha sukha Avarita ho jAtA hai| yaha sukha kahA~ se AtA hai? viSayoM meM se? mAna meM se? krodha meM se? lobha meM se? inameM kisImeM se nahIM Ae to samajhanA ki yaha samakita hai| jahA~ kucha bhI duHkha nahIM hotA, vahA~ AtmA hai| mithyA darzana se hI duHkha saMsAra meM du:kha kI upAsanA kI hai, isalie du:kha hai| vAstava meM du:kha nahIM hai| isa jagat meM sabakucha hI hai, parantu du:kha kisalie upasthita hue haiM? adarzana se hii| samyak samajha kise kahA jAtA hai ki duHkha meM se sukha kA zodhana kre| krnaa| mA~-bApa kI sevA se to apAra sukha prApta ho aisA hai| logoM ne jisameM sukha mAnA, usameM hameM bhI sukha mAnanA, vaha lokasaMjJA hai| aura AtmA meM hI sukha hai vaisA mAnanA, vaha jJAnI kI saMjJA hai| eka vyakti bhagavAna se roja prArthanA kare ki, 'he bhagavAna! mujhe sukhI karo, sukhI kro|' dUsarA vyakti prArthanA kare taba bolatA hai ki, 'he bhagavAna! ghara ke sabhI loga sukhI hoN|' usameM khuda to A hI jAtA hai| saccA sukhI dUsarAvAlA vyakti hotA hai, pahalevAle kI arjI bekAra jAtI hai| aura hama to jagatkalyANa kI bhAvanA karate haiM usameM khuda kA AtyaMtika kalyANa A jAtA hai| duHkha upakArI banate haiM praznakartA : kuntI ne duHkha mA~gA, sukha nahIM mA~gA, tAki bhagavAna yAda aaeN| usakA rahasya kyA hai? dAdAzrI : aisA hai, ghara kA yaha daravAjA hama hamezA baMda rakhate the| para eka jAe aura baMda kareM, taba taka to dUsarA khaTakhaTAtA hai| vaha jAe taba daravAjA baMda kareM, vahA~ para tIsarA khaTakhaTAtA hai, aise pare dina calatA rahatA hai| yadi tIna ghaMTe taka koI nahIM khaTakhaTAe to baMda kiyA huA kAma kA hai, para yaha to baMda kareM aura khaTakhaTAe, baMda kareM aura khaTakhaTAe, isalie baMda kareM, usake badale to daravAjA khulA hI rakha do na! vaise hI eka para eka du:kha Ae~, taba duHkha se kaha do ki, 'ye daravAje khule haiM, tujhe jaba AnA ho taba A aura jaba jAnA ho taba jaa|' jitane saMta hue haiM, ve sabhI kisake bhoktA the! ve du:khabhoktA the| duHkha aura sukha vikalpa haiN| isalie vikalpa ko cenja kara dete haiM, yAnI duHkha kA nAma sukha aura sukha kA nAma du:kha rakha dete haiN| phira daravAje khule rakhate haiM, jise AnA ho vaha aae| pudgala sukha : udhAra kA vyavahAra pudgala sukha kI AzA chor3a, vaha udhArI vyavahAra hai| pudgala sukha jisa du:kha se hama ghabarAe~ nahIM, vaha sAmane AtA hI nahIM, luTerA bhI nahIM AtA aura bhagavAna bhI nahIM Ate! bhagavAna kyA kahate haiM ki yadi tujhe mokSa cAhie to 'jJAnI puruSa' ke pAsa jA aura saMsAra meM sukha cAhie ho to mA~-bApa aura guru kI sevA
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________________ (13) vyavahAradharma : svAbhAvikadharma 115 phrI oNpha kosTa nahIM AtA hai, vaha to lekara vApisa cukAnA par3atA hai| udhAra lekara kitane dina taka sukhI hoMge? udhAra ke rupaye kaba lie jAte haiM? jaba nAka kaTe tb| yaha to jahA~-tahA~ se udhAra liyA hai, vaha aba vApisa denA par3a rahA hai| jaba vApisa deM, taba vaha du:kha ke rUpa meM denA par3atA hai| zArIrika, mAnasika yA vAcika cAhe jisa prakAra se denA pdd'egaa| beTA'pApAjI-pApAjI' kare to vaha kaDavA laganA caahie| yadi mIThA lagA to use udhAra kA sukha liyA kahA jAegA, vaha phira du:kha ke rUpa meM vApisa denA pdd'egaa| beTA bar3A hogA taba Apase kahegA ki, 'Apa beakkala ho|' taba hogA ki aisA kyoM? vaha jo pahale Apane udhAra liyA thA, vaha vApisa le rahA hai| isalie pahale se hI sAvadhAna ho jaao| hamane to udhArI sukha lene kA vyavahAra hI chor3a diyA thaa| ahA, khuda ke AtmA meM anaMta sukha hai! use chor3akara isa bhayaMkara gaMdagI meM par3eM? gharavAle yA bAharavAle kar3avA bole to sahana nahIM hotA, isalie hamane kahA hai ki vANI rikaoNrDa hai| isa kAla meM rikaoNrDa Ter3hI bajatI hai| sAmanevAle kI cAhe jitanI, cAhe jaisI rikaoNrDa baja rahI ho, para hama rikaoNrDa ke rUpa meM sunate raheM aura sAmanevAlA Uba jAe, taba samajheM ki vAstava meM jJAna pacA hai| kaSAya kabhI bhI kaSAya se jIte nahIM jA sakate, kaSAya samatA se hI jIte jA sakate haiN| khAne kI yA dUsarI kisI cIz2a kI bhAvanA hI nahIM honI caahie| paudgalika sukha kI tamannA, are usakA vicAra hI nahIM AnA caahie| kyoMki vaha udhArI vyavahAra pusAe vaisA nahIM hai| vaha vApisa mA~geM taba diyA nahIM jA skegaa| pudgala khuda vItarAga hai| Apa use jaba se lAoge, taba se udhArI vyavahAra zurU ho jAtA hai| (14) saccI samajha, dharma kI dharma kA sthAna praznakartA : dharma kisa sthala para hai? dAdAzrI: dharma do prakAra ke haiN| eka laukika dharma aura dUsarA alaukika dhrm| laukika dharma saMsArika sukha dete haiN| mithyAtva sahita jojo kriyAe~ kI jAtI haiM, ve sabhI laukika dharma kahalAte haiN| usakA phala saMsAra hai| usase bhautika sukha milate haiM, para mokSa nahIM miltaa| jaba ki alaukika dharma meM Ae, yAnI ki mithyAdarzana TUTe, taba se mokSa kA rAstA mila gayA kahA jAtA hai| mithyAdarzana TUTe kisa taraha? 'jJAnI puruSa' use jJAna meM samajhAe~ ki ye saba 'roMga bilIpheM ' haiM aura ve 'roMga bilIfa' phrekcara kara dete haiM aura 'rAiTa bilIfa' usakI mAnyatA meM hamezA ke lie baiTha jAtI hai, vaisI unakI kRpA utare taba samyak darzana hotA hai, aura samyaka darzana huA, usake sAtha hI samyak jJAna hotA hI rahatA hai aura samyaka cAritra bhI AtA hI rahatA hai| dharma : tyAga meM yA bhoga meM praznakartA : dharma vaha tyAga meM hai yA bhoga meM hai? dAdAzrI : dharma tyAga meM bhI nahIM hotA hai aura bhoga meM bhI nahIM hotA hai, donoM viparIta mAnyatAe~ haiN| tyAgavAlA vApisa grahaNa karatA hai| apane meM kahAvata hai na, ki 'tyAge so Age?' isalie jitanA tyAga karoge usakA aneka gunA hokara vApisa AegA aura grahaNa kiyA to use vApisa grahaNa kI ar3acaneM Ae~gI, taba phira use vApisa tyAga karane kI bhAvanA
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________________ (14) saccI samajha, dharma kI 117 118 AptavANI-4 hogii| kyoMki bahuta grahaNa ho jAe taba Uba jAtA hai| praznakartA : taba phira tyAga kareM yA tyAga nahIM kareM? dAdAzrI : tyAganA kitanA hai? apane sira para jitanA bojha uThA sakeM, utane hI bojha kI jarUrata hai aura usase jyAdA kA tyAga kara denA caahie| usake badale loga bojhA bar3hAte rahate haiN| ArtadhyAna aura raudradhyAna hoM, aisA ho to utanA AvazyakatA se adhika mAla tyAga denA caahie| tyAga use kahate haiM ki vaha ArtadhyAna aura raudradhyAna nahIM krvaae| ...taba dharma ne rakSaNa kiyA? ApakI jeba kaTe aura pA~ca hajAra rupaye jAe~ to Apako bhItara parezAnI-parezAnI ho jAtI hai| thAnedAra se kahate ho ki, 'sAhaba, dekhie yahA~ se kATA hai, yahA~ se kATA hai|' kyoMki Apa mAnate ho ki "Apa 'caMdUlAla' ho aura ApakI jeba kaTI hai|" aura ye bhAI haiM ve sIdhe ghara cale jAte haiM, kisIko kucha dikhAte-karate nahIM haiN| kyoMki ve 'pravINabhAI' hI nahIM haiM na! aura jeba bhI unakI nahIM hai| isalie unheM kucha bhI parezAnI hI nahIM rahatI hai na! use mukti kahate haiN| saMsAra sparza nahIM ho, vaha mukti| aura Apako to parezAnI sparza karatI hai na? praznakartA : ekadama, cAroM ora se sparza karatI hai| dAdAzrI : pUrI z2indagI dharma kiyA, are anaMta janmoM se dharma kiyA para dharma ApakA sagA nahIM huaa| eka jeba kaTe, usase pahale to dharma calA jAtA hai, vaha dharma hI nahIM khlaataa| hara eka minaTa para hAz2ira rahe vaha dharma kahalAtA hai| dharma rakSaNa detA hai, zAMti detA hai. samAdhi detA hai| ciMtA nahIM krvaataa| ciMtA ho, use dharma nahIM khte| kisakI ciMtA karate ho? beTI bar3I ho gaI, usakI? are, beTI bar3I haI vaha usake zarIra se bar3I huI, usameM tujhe kyA hai itanA kucha? beTI bar3I nahIM hogI? yaha paudhA bhI bar3A hotA hai, jaise-jaise umra bar3hatI hai vaise-vaise! yaha to beTI baDI hotI jAtI hai, vaise-vaise bhItara akulAhaTa hotI jAtI hai| aura eka vyakti kI beTI thI, vaha bar3I hI nahIM ho rahI thI, taba kahatA hai, 'ThiganI raha gaI hai! isalie akulAhaTa hotI hai|' isa taraha aise akulAhaTavAle loga haiN| inheM kahA~ pahu~ca pAe~? dekho akulAhaTa, akulAhaTa! jarA akkalavAlI lar3akI hogI to kaheMge ki, 'z2arUrata se jyAdA akkalamaMda hai' aura jarA kama akkalavAlI hogI to kaheMge ki 'pAgala hai!' cAroM tarapha se isakA ThikAnA hI nahIM hai na! koI apamAna kare taba ApakA dharma calA jAtA hai kyA? praznakartA : hA~, calA jAtA hai| dAdAzrI : roja bhagavAna kI pUjA karate rahate haiM, phira bhI thor3AsA kisIne apamAna kiyA to vaha calA jAtA hai kyA? praznakartA : are, sevA-pUjA yA mAlA kara rahe hoM, taba bhI koI apamAna kare to usa ghar3I bhI dharma calA jAtA hai, sAhaba! dAdAzrI : dharma vaha kahalAtA hai ki dharma hokara pariNamita ho| dharma hokara pariNamita ho, vaha kise kahate haiM ki sAmanevAlA gAliyA~ deM, usa ghar3I dharma hamArI madada kre| yaha to sirpha bhAgadaur3a, bhAgadaur3a karate haiN| kitane hI maMdira aura jinAlayoM kI sIr3hiyA~ ghisa DAlIM, saMgamaramara ke patthara bhI ghisane lage, para kucha bhI kalyANa nahIM hotA hai| dharma hAjira nahIM rahe, vaha dharma hI nahIM khlaataa| maiMne pA~ca bAra Apake pAsa cakkara lagAe hoM to Apa mere z2arUrata ke samaya para hAz2ira rahate ho aura yaha to dharma kA roja karate haiM, para vaha (dharma) z2arUrata ke samaya hAz2ira hI nahIM rahatA, Ane se pahale hI ekadama bhAga jAtA hai, use dharma kaise kaheMge? roz2a kitAbeM par3hate rahate haiM, ve itanI sArI par3hI kI dimAga pUrA kitAba jaisA ho gayA! dimAga hI kitAba bana gayA!! bhagavAna ne kyA kahA thA ki AtmA jaan| usake badale ye kitAbeM hI jAnatA rahA hai| usakA kyA karanA hai? itanA-itanA pUrI z2indagI kiyA, lekina ArtadhyAna aura raudradhyAna hote rahate haiM! kyA karoge aba? bahuta dhokhA khAyA hai| pUrI z2indagI krodha-mAna-mAyA-lobha ne lUTa liyA aura kucha bhI nahIM rahane diyaa| aba kamI par3egI taba kyA karoge? anaMta janmoM se dharma kiyA, para dharma pariNamita nahIM hotA aura adharma
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________________ (14) saccI samajha, dharma kI 120 AptavANI-4 dekheM ki jUte gAyaba ho ge| to samajhanA ki kisI aura ke ho gae aura raha gae to pahana lenaa| donoM mata bigaadd'naa| pacAsa-sau rupaye ke lie kyA bhagavAna ke sAtha bigAr3eMge? praznakartA : para yaha to hararoz2a kA hai na? dAdAzrI : hararoz2a gAyaba nahIM jAte haiN| yaha to use Dara hai| praznakartA : jAe~ vaisA hai! dAdAzrI : bahuta soce na, usIke jAte haiN| mere jaise vicAra nahIM karate, unake jUte yoM hI par3e rahate haiM ! jAte hI nahIM, niyama hai, dharma rakSaNa karatA praznakartA: zraddhA rakhe to dharma rakSaNa karatA hai? bar3hatA gyaa| thor3A bhI koI cher3e-kare ki, 'caMdUlAla meM akkala nahIM hai|' to usase pahale hI dhamAkA ho jAtA hai| sAmAyika karate hue yA mAlA pherate samaya bhI koI cher3e to bhI dhamAkA ho jAtA hai| ho jAtA hai yA nahIM? praznakartA : ho jAtA hai| dAdAzrI: aisA kyoM ho gayA hogA seTha? samatA nahIM rahatI hai na?! varnA upAdhi meM samatA rahe, taba samajhanA ki mokSa ke bigula bje| praznakartA : vaha samatA kisa taraha rahe? dAdAzrI : kyoM kisa taraha rahe? dekho, ina bhAI ko samatA rahatI hai yA nahIM rahatI? unheM pUcho to sahI? upAdhi meM samatA rahanI hI cAhie, nahIM to dharma hI kaise kahalAegA? abhI taka kiyA vaha kharA dharma hI nahIM khlaataa| dharma to vaha ki apamAna kare, jeba kaTa jAe, to bhI hAjira rhe| yaha dharma to ApakI sahAyatA nahIM karatA hai na? praznakartA : nahIM krtaa| dAdAzrI : yAnI ki Apa dharma ke prati sinsiyara nahIM rhe| isa kaliyuga meM dharma ke prati koI bhI sinsiyara nahIM rhtaa| bhAI ke prati sinsiyara nahIM rahatA, patnI ke prati bhI sinsiyara nahIM rahatA, taba phira dharma ke prati sinsiyara kisa taraha rahe? loga roz2a cA~dI kI DibbI lekara bhagavAna ke darzana karane jAte haiN| taba maiMne bhagavAna se kahA ki, 'bhagavAna ! itane sAre loga roja darzana karate haiM, phira bhI Apa una para rAz2I kyoM nahIM hote?' taba bhagavAna ne kahA ki, 'ye loga roz2a Akara darzana to karate haiM, para phira usa ghar3I unake jUtoM ko bhI yAda karate rahate haiM ki koI le jAegA, le jAegA, are dukAna ko bhI sAtha meM yAda karate rahate haiN| aba bolo, isameM merA kyA doSa hai? maiM una para kisa taraha rAjI hoU~?' taba loga mujhe pUchate haiM ki, 'to hameM darzana kisa taraha karane cAhie?' taba maiM unheM samajhAtA hU~ ki, 'darzana karate samaya Apako jUtoM se aisA kahanA cAhie ki, 'dAdA bhagavAna' kI AjJA se tujhe kahatA hU~ ki ta jaldI se jaldI jAnA aura nahIM jAnA ho to rukanA', aise karake darzana krnaa| darzana karake Ae~ aura dAdAzrI : zraddhA kisa taraha rahe? jahA~ dAnata hI khoTI ho, vahA~ para zraddhA kisa taraha rahe? dAnata sAfa cAhie, kSatriyoM ke jaisii| bhagavAna kSatriya the n| sAfa dAnatavAle to jUtoM se kahate haiM ki, 'tujhe jAnA ho to jAnA, maiM to bhagavAna ke darzana karane jA rahA huuN|' aura Apako to yaha cAhie aura vaha bhI cAhie! janma se pahale aura marane ke bAda... 'janma pahelA cAlato ne mUA pachI cAlaze aTake nA koI di' vyavahAra re, sApekSa saMsAra re...' - nvniit| kyA karanA bAkI rahA hai aba Apako? janma se pahale bhI (saMsAra) calatA thA aura marane ke bAda bhI clegaa| yaha to binA bAta ke ruka gae ho ki mujhe calAnA hai! aisA hai na, ki yaha calatA rahatA hai aura calatA rhegaa| Apa apane khAo-pIo aura so jaao| ArAma se z2arA z2aha taka ghUma aao| isa taraha hAya-hAya kisalie karate rahate ho? yaha to pUrA dina kAma-kAma, hAya-hAya karate rahate haiM, jaise ki kabhI bhI citA meM jAnA
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________________ (14) saccI samajha, dharma kI 121 hI nahIM ho aisA mAnakara karatA rahatA hai! hA~, pA~ca sau, haz2Ara varSoM taka citA meM nahIM jAnA ho, taba to hama samajheM ki 'hAya hAya' bhale hI kre| abhI to becAre ko haz2Ara varSa nikAlane haiM!' yaha to ThikAnA nahIM ki kaba citA meM jAnA hai, kaba 'phela' ho jAe vaha kaha nahIM sakate! yoM skUla meM sabhI pAsa hue haiM, para isameM phela ho jAte haiM ! - sacce dharma kI samajha roz2a-roz2a dharma kareM, para pUre dina hAya-hAya, hAya-hAya karate rahate haiM! bhagavAna ne kahA hai ki dharma vaha hai ki jo dharma hokara pariNamita ho / itanA hI yadi sAre bhakta samajha gae hote, to turanta soca meM par3a jAte ki are dharma hokara pariNamita to hotA nahIM sau mana sAbuna DAleM, para kapar3A vaise kA vaisA rhe| taba bhalA vaha sAbuna galata hai yA DAlanevAlA galata yA kapar3A galata ? utane kA utanA ArtadhyAna aura raudradhyAna hotA rahe, to nahIM samajha jAe~ ki kucha bhUla raha jAtI hai| ArtadhyAna aura raudradhyAna samajha meM AtA hai na Apako ? praznakartA: nahIM, nahIM samajha meM AtA, z2arA samajhAie / dAdAzrI : rAta ko gyAraha baje pA~ca loga Apake ghara mehamAna banakara Ae, taba aMdara kucha asara ho jAtA hai kyA? praznakartA: vaha to AnevAle ke Upara AdhArita hai| manacAhe mehamAna hoM to kucha bhI nahIM hotA aura anacAhe mehamAna Ae~ to mana meM hotA hai ki ye abhI kahA~ se Ae? dAdAzrI : manacAhe mehamAnoM ko dekhakara aMdara AnaMda ho, vaha bhI ArtadhyAna hai aura anacAhe mehamAnoM ko dekhakara aMdara ye kahA~ se Ae' aisA ho, vaha bhI ArtadhyAna kahalAtA hai| mehamAna Ae~ taba aMdara ukatAhaTa hotI hai, parantu mu~ha para to kahatA hai ki, 'Aie- aaie|' kyoMki ijjata jAtI hai na! yaha ijjatadAra agalA janma bigAr3akara ijjata rakhane gayA !! isase to mu~ha para kaha de na ki kahA~ se Ae? jisase AnevAlA aura 122 AptavANI-4 bItA huA donoM nahIM bigar3eM! yaha to mu~ha para 'Aie- Aie' karatA hai aura phira dhIre se patnI se pUchatA hai ki, 'Apako kyA kaha rahe the ki kaba jAe~ge? sAmAna to bar3e-bar3e lAe haiM!' taba patnI kahe ki, 'maiM kyA jAnU~ ? dosta to Apake haiN| mujhe kyA lenA-denA?' yahA~ para patnI nahIM sa~bhAlatI pati ko ki, 'are, aba abhI to Ae haiM aura 'kaba jAe~ge, kaba jAe~ge' kyA kara rahe hoM ? thor3e dina, dasa dina paMdraha dina rahane to do|' aba yaha duHkha kaba miTe? dharma kisa taraha pariNAma de? dharma to, gyAraha loga Ae~, to bhI dhIre se kahegA, 'Aie, pdhaarie|' dUsarA kucha bakher3A nahIM / mana bhI nahIM bigaadd'e| mana bigar3A huA ho to mehamAna cehare para se hI pahacAna jAte haiN| yaha ArtadhyAna kahalAtA hai| ArtadhyAna kA phala tiryaMcagati hai / raudradhyAna arthAt kyA? apamAna kareM to pahale lAla-pIlA ho jAtA hai| 'caMdUlAla meM akkala nahIM hai', aisA kisIne kahA ki turanta hI 'akkala kA borA' khar3A ho jAtA hai ! vaha raudradhyAna kahalAtA hai| bhItara gussA ho jAe, vaha raudradhyAna kahalAtA hai| raudradhyAna kA phala narkagati hai| bolo, bhagavAna ne nyAya se kahA hai yA anyAya se? bhagavAna anyAya se nahIM bole hoMge na? vItarAga bhagavAna kabhI bhI anyAya karate hI nahIM na! aba yaha apamAna yA nukasAna sahana kyoM nahIM hotA? taba kaheM ki, 'dharma jAnA nahIM, dharma sunA nahIM, dharma para zraddhA nhiiN|' dharma sunA hI nahIM hai abhI tk| dharma sunA ho aura zraddhA baiThI ho to dharma usa ghar3I madada karatA hai| yaha to dharma khar3A hI nahIM rahatA na? Apako akele ko aisA hai, vaisA nahIM hai| saccA dharma to vaha kahalAtA hai ki sarva duHkhoM se mukta kare / duHkha bar3hAe use dharma kahA hI kaise jAe ? mokSa kA mArga to..... - mokSa kA mArga eka hI hai, do mArga mokSa ke nahIM haiN| jaba dekho taba mokSa kA eka hI mArga hotA hai| jJAna darzana- cAritra aura tapa ye cAra staMbha mokSa ke haiN| unheM jaba bhI dekho, taba vaise ke vaise hI hote haiN| phira rAste usake lie alaga-alaga hote haiN| koI kramika mArga hotA hai, jisameM japa
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________________ 124 AptavANI-4 (14) saccI samajha, dharma kI 123 tapa karake Age jAnA hai, sIr3hiyA~ car3hakara jAnA hai| aura eka mArga-akrama mArga hai, jisameM sIr3hiyA~ car3hate-car3hate nahIM jAnA hai, liphTa meM jAnA hai| jo anukUla ho usa mArga se jaanaa| Apako liphTa meM jAnA hai yA sIr3hiyA~ car3hate-car3hate jAnA hai? praznakartA : vaha to liphTa meM hI jAnA AsAna aura sarala rahegA na? dAdAzrI : to hamAre pAsa AnA, eka ghaMTe meM hI Apako naqada de duuNgaa| phira ciMtA nahIM hogI, upAdhi (bAhara se AnevAle duHkha) nahIM hogI aura samAdhi rahegI! taba hama jAneM ki mokSa jAne kI taiyArI huii| beTiyoM kI zAdI karo, beToM kI zAdI karo. koI dikkata nahIM aaegii| sirpha hamArI AjJA meM rhnaa| rahA jAegA na AjJA meM? praznakartA : kyoM nahIM? mujhe to isakI hI z2arUrata hai| vaha to kSaNika sukha hai| dAdAzrI : anaMta janmoM se isa kSaNika sukha meM hI race-base ho| karor3oM janmoM se aise hI the aura Aja bhI aise hI ho, ulTe adhika bigar3a gae ho| jaba taka ArtadhyAna aura raudradhyAna hotA hai, taba taka bhagavAna ke sacce bhakta nahIM khlaate| yoM sIdhe samajhadAra lagate haiM, para cher3eM to phana phailAte haiM ! ve sacce bhakta nahIM khlaate| bhagavAna kI mUrti ke darzana kie, para bhItara baiThe hue bhagavAna ko nahIM phcaanaa| anaMta janmoM se mUrti ko hI namaskAra kie haiM na? bhagavAna ko pahacAnA nahIM hai na? loga aupacArikatA se bhagavAna ke darzana karate haiM aura bhojana karate samaya cabAcabAkara dekhate haiM ki aMdara jAyaphala hai, ilAicI hai! yaha to ulTe bigar3atA jA rahA hai| aba mokSa meM kaba jAoge seTha? praznakartA : aba usakA upAya Apa batAie ki kyA hai? dAdAzrI : upAya meM to 'jJAnI puruSa' se mA~ga lenA ki 'sAhaba merI mukti kiijie|' Apa to kucha bolate hI nahIM na? Apako mukti kI icchA hI nahIM hai na! mA~ga to karanI par3egI na? hama jauharI kI dukAna meM gae hoM aura sirpha dekhate raheM aura bole nahIM, taba taka vyApArI ko kisa taraha patA cale ki Apako kyA cAhie? isalie mokSa, divyacakSu jo-jo cAhie, una sabakA TenDara bhara ke laanaa| hama eka ghaMTe meM hI sabakucha de deNge| svabhAvabhAva, vaha svadharma praznakartA : dharma kise kaheM? vahI samajhanA thaa| dAdAzrI : jo hameM dharakara rakhe, girane nahIM de, vaha dharma kahalAtA hai| abhI to Apa gira rahe ho, usakA Apako patA hI nhiiN| isa kaliyuga ke sabhI manuSya slipa ho rahe haiM, dhIre-dhIre adhogita meM jA rahe haiN| dharma kA eka hI artha nahIM hai| dharma kitanI taraha ke haiM? eka DigrI se lekara tIna sau sATha DigrI taka ke dharma haiN| hara eka vyakti ke alagaalaga vyUja (dRSTikoNa) ke alaga-alaga dharma haiM, isalie matabheda haiN| apane deza meM jo dharma calate haiM ve dharma kyA haiM ki bure karma chur3avAte haiM aura acche karma karavAte haiN| praznakartA : yAnI use hI dharma kahate haiM? dAdAzrI : nhiiN| use saccA dharma nahIM kahA jA sktaa| isa sone kA dharma kyA hai? use jaMga lagatA hai kyA? yAnI khuda ke svabhAva meM rahe to dharma kahalAtA hai| yAnI Apa AtmA ho, to AtmasvarUpa meM raho, to hI dharma khlaaegaa| yaha to dehAdhyAsa hai| bure karma chur3avAtA hai aura acche karma karavAtA hai| vaha saba bhrAMti hI hai| acche karma bhI bhrAMti hai aura bare karma bhI bhrAMti hai, lekina usa kAraNa se maiM acche karmoM ko chor3a dene ko nahIM kahatA huuN| bare meM se acche meM jAte haiM, vaha acchI bAta hai, lekina phira bhI bhrAMti nahIM jAtI hai| bhrAMti jAne ke bAda sacce dharma kI zurUAta hotI hai| vastu svabhAva meM pariNamita ho, vaha dharma hai! yAnI Apa AtmA ho| khuda kA kyA svabhAva hai? to kaheM, 'niraMtara prmaanNd|' paramAnaMda meM rahA. to bAhara kI vastu Apako asara nahIM kregii| vahI dharma hai aura vaha mokSa taka pahu~cAtA hai-mukti detA hai|
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________________ 126 AptavANI-4 (15) AcaraNa meM dharma dharma aura AcaraNa praznakartA : dharma kA AcaraNa nahIM hotA hai, daadaa| dAdAzrI : bhagavAna ke lie AcaraNa kI kImata nahIM hai. heta kI qImata hai| AcaraNa ko bhagavAna ne 'no karma' kahA hai. ve nahIM jaise karma haiN| hetu sahita AcAra ho usakI to bAta hI alaga! dharma to, eka hI paisA diyA ho, para sacce dila se diyA ho, vaha kahalAtA hai| jo vastu hameM sthiratA karavAe vaha dharma! 'jJAnI puruSa' sthiratAvAle hote haiM, isalie jo koI bhI unase DorI bA~dha jAe, usakI nAva sthira rahatI hai| manuSyatva kI sArthakatA praznakartA : yaha manuSya janma vyartha nahIM jAe, usake lie kyA karanA cAhie? dAdAzrI : 'yaha manuSya janma vyartha nahIM jAe' usakA hI pUre dina ciMtavana kareM to vaha saphala hogaa| isa manuSya janma kI ciMtA karanI hai, jabaki loga lakSmI kI ciMtA karate haiM! koziza karanA Apake hAtha meM nahIM hai, para bhAva karanA Apake hAtha meM hai| koziza karanA dUsare kI sattA meM hai| bhAva kA phala AtA hai| vAstava meM to bhAva bhI parasattA meM hai, parantu bhAva karo to usakA phala AtA hai| kleza, vahA~ dharma nahIM kleza yAnI bhayaMkara saMsAra rog| jisase kleza utpanna nahIM ho use dharma kahate haiN| saMsAra meM khAe-pIe usameM harja nahIM hai, para jo kleza utpanna hotA hai, vaha nahIM honA caahie| bhagavAna kyA kahate haiM ki mokSa nahIM mile usameM harja nahIM hai, parantu kleza nahIM ho to saMsAra meM rahanA acchA hai| kleza to bhayaMkara roga kahalAtA hai, TI.bI. se bhI adhika bhayaMkara roga kahalAtA hai| 'kleza nahIM gayA to tU dharma hI nahIM jAnatA', aisA bhagavAna ne kahA hai| kleza ho to jAnavaragati AtI hai| isalie do bAteM sIkha lenI haiN| kleza nahIM hotA ho to saMsAra meM rahanA, nahIM to mokSa kA mArga ddhuuNddhnaa| jahA~ thor3A bhI kleza hai-vahA~ dharma nahIM hai aura jahA~ dharma hai-vahA~ kleza nahIM hai| kleza kA artha to mAnasika roga hai| usake kAraNa to agalA janma bigar3atA hai| deha ko roga ho jAe to agalA janma nahIM bigar3atA, phira bhI usake lie to ilAja karavAte haiN| to phira kleza ke roga ke ilAja kI khoja nahIM karanI cAhie? usakI to turanta khoja karanI cAhie, ki kisa kAraNa se kleza huA hai! akrama vijJAna : nayA hI abhigama pUrA saMsAra galataphahamI ke kAraNa hai| maiM logoM se kahU~ ki, 'dayA rakho, zAMti rakho, satya bolo|' to loga mujhe kaheMge ki, 'Apa hI dayA rakhie, hamase nahIM hotaa|' hajAroM varSoM se zAstra bhI yahI gAte rahate haiM ki 'saca bolo, dayA rakho, zAMti rakho, krodha mata karo' taba loga kahate haiM ki, 'hameM lAkha saca bolanA hai, para saca bolA nahIM jaataa| lAkha krodha nahIM karanA hai, para ho jAtA hai| isalie Apake zAstra kAma ke nahIM haiN|' aisA karake logoM ne purANoMzAstroM ko parachattI para car3hA diyA hai| hama jagat ko nayA hI sAinsa denA cAhate haiN| dayA rakhanI, zAMti rakhanI, satya bolanA, ve saba iphekTsa haiN| logoM ke pAsa 'iphekTsa ' kA jJAna hai, kisIke pAsa 'kaoNjeja' kA jJAna hai hI nahIM, vaha ajJAna hai| hama kaoNz2ez2a kA spaSTIkaraNa denA cAhate haiN| opana Tu skAi kara de, vaha jJAna hai| jJAna to kriyAkArI honA caahie| anubhavajanya jJAna ho tabhI kriyAkArI hotA hai| bAqI pustakoM ke jJAna se to bhaTake hI haiN| 'rileTiva' dharma kaisA honA cAhie ki jo pariNAma laae| saba dharmoM kA kudaratI prakAra se badalAva honevAlA hai aura yaha
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________________ (15) AcaraNa meM dharma 127 128 AptavANI-4 aura dharma kyA hai? taba kaheM, khuda ke svarUpa meM ramaNatA karanI vaha / laukika dharma arthAt bhagavAna kI AjJA meM rahanA, vh| 'akrama mArga' to aisA sarala rAstA nikAlegA ki dharma sabhI ko ekadama AsAna lagegA aura turanta usakA phala milegaa| dharma kise kahA jAtA hai? jo pariNamita ho vaha dharma, jaise hama khIra khAe~ usake bAda hamArI bhUkha khatma ho jAtI hai, vaise hI jo 'svarUpajJAna' dete haiM usase kisI kAla meM kisI janma meM nahIM huI ho, vaisI aMtarazAtA hotI hai| bAhya azAtA bhale ho, parantu aMtarazAtA niraMtara rahatI hai| jagat meM bAhyazAtA hotI hai, para aMtarazAtA kisIko bhI nahIM hotii| apanA sAinsa kyA kahatA hai ki tU corI karatA hai yA tujhase jhUTha bolA jAtA hai, usameM hameM harja nahIM hai, para usakA tU 'isa taraha se' pratikramaNa krnaa| hama cora se aisA nahIM kahate ki tU corI mata kr| hama use kahate haiM ki tU corI karatA hai, usakA yaha phala hai, isalie samajha lenaa| yaha corI karatA hai, jhUTha bolatA hai, krodha karatA hai, vaha saba anivArya rUpa se karanA par3atA hai| usameM hama use DA~TeM ki aisA kyoM karatA hai to vaha jyAdA karegA aura mana meM vApisa cora nakkI karegA ki 'corI to karU~gA hI, tU kauna hai mujhe DA~TanevAlA?' isalie prema se samajhAo, prema se sabhI roga jAte haiN| zuddha prema 'jJAnI puruSa' ke pAsa se hI yA unake pholoarsa ke pAsa se hI milegaa| krodha ke sAmane kSamA, kapaTa ke sAmane RjutA, mAna ke sAmane mRdutA kI AvazyakatA pdd'egii| krodha ho jAe to hone denaa| mAna, lobha hoM to hone denA, para unakA pratikramaNa karake badala denaa| usase sabase bar3A dharmadhyAna hotA hai| kucAritra kA vicAra Ae to usameM harja nahIM hai, unase ghabarAnA mata, lekina unakA pratikramaNa krnaa| yaha liphTamArga hai. isase tez2a gati se Age bar3hA jAtA hai| dharmadhyAna Ae taba se hI vyavahAra samakita ke cinha dikhate haiN| kucAritra kA vicAra Ae to hama use kaheM, 'aao| cAya pIo, Apa A gae! aba 'jJAnI puruSa' batAte haiM vaisA maiM kruuNgaa|' yaha cauthe darje kA dharmadhyAna kahalAtA hai| AjJA hI dharma yAnI kauna-sA dharma karanA hai? 'jJAnI puruSa' kI AjJA pAlanI vaha 'jJAnI puruSa' ko khuza rakhane se adhika uttama dUsarA koI dharma duniyA meM nahIM hai aura hamArA rAjIpA (gurajanoM kI khuzI) utpanna karanA Apake hI hAtha meM hai| Apa jaise-jaise hamArI AjJA meM rahakara U~ce Ate jAe~ge, vaise-vaise Apa para hamArA rAjIpA bddh'egaa| bhagavAna ne kahA hai ki 'jJAnI' ko rAjI karane meM unakI sarva icchAoM kI prazaMsA karanA sIkhoge, taba bhI mokSa hai! hamArI eka hI AjJA pAle, to vaha AjJA hI use TheTha mokSa taka pahu~cA de, vaisA hai| jJAna ke anusAra pravartana eka darjI ko aisA jJAna phiTa ho gayA ki piMjare meM cUhe pakar3akara chor3ane se kaue ko bhojana milegA, dUsare ko phAyadA ho rahA hai| aba usa jJAna ke kAraNa cUhoM ko mAranA usake hisse meM AtA hai| hamane usakA vaha jJAna badala diyA, vaha zraddhA ke kAraNa use phiTa ho gayA ki cUhe mAranA nukasAnadeha hai, usake bAda vaisA jJAna kriyA meM AtA jAtA hai| zraddhA jJAna se badalanI caahie| samajhapUrvaka badalI jAnI cAhie, cAritra ko phira hameM nahIM dekhanA hai| vaha to usakA pahale kA iphekTa ho taba taka cAritra nahIM bdltaa| aba vaha jaba cUhe mArane jAegA taba use hogA ki nahIM mArane caahie| phira bhI pUrva ke iphekTa ke kAraNa mAra degA, taba use bhItara hotA rahegA ki yaha galata ho rahA hai| phira bhI yaha jJAna zubhAzubha kA hai| zuddha jJAna meM to aisA kucha bhI nahIM hotA hai| kriyA meM Ae yA nahIM Ae para jJAna DiganA nahIM caahie| zraddhA se jJAna ekjekTa rahanA caahie| saccA jJAna jAnane kI hI z2arUrata hai, phira usa jJAna para se zraddhA kabhI bhI cala-vicala nahIM honI caahie| kriyAe~ phira bhale jo bhI hoM ve nahIM dekhI jaatiiN| praznakartA : vacanabala se 'ekjekTalI' rahatA hai na? dAdAzrI : vacanabala se kriyA meM parivartana hotA hai| vacanabala se galata karate hue ruka jAtA hai|
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________________ (15) AcaraNa meM dharma 129 130 AptavANI-4 sIdhe ke lie zakti mA~ganI par3atI haiM jisa ajJAna para zraddhA baiTha gaI ho, to vaha kriyA bahuta dera taka calatI hai aura thor3I zraddhA ho to vaha kriyA vega se khatma ho jAtI hai| thoDA-sA ajJAna ho to vaha jaldI khatma ho jAtA hai| ajJAna kA jJAna jAnane meM usakI pudgala zaktiyA~ kharca hotI haiM aura jJAna kA jJAna jAnane ke lie prArthanA karanI par3atI hai ki mujhe ye zaktiyA~ diijie| ajJAna kA jJAna jAnane ke lie to pudgala zaktiyA~ yoM hI milatI hI rahatI hai| jaba ki jJAna ke lie vaisI zaktiyA~ nahIM milatI haiN| asatya, corI, abrahmacarya, unameM padgala kI zaktiyA~ saralatA se milatI hI rahatI hai| jaba ki usase viruddha satya, brahmacarya, ke lie zaktiyA~ mA~ganI par3atI haiN| vaha jJAna-darzana se jAnakara, zraddhA se zaktiyA~ mA~gane se zaktiyA~ milatI haiN| ajJAna nIce utAra denevAlA hai aura usameM pudgala zaktiyA~ AtI hI rahatI haiN| jaba ki jJAna U~cA car3hAnevAlA hai, usake pudgala virodhI hone ke kAraNa zaktiyA~ mA~ganI par3atI haiM, tabhI U~cA car3hA jA sakatA hai| prArthanA se zaktiyA~ prApta praznakartA : U~cA car3hane ke lie ye zaktiyA~ kisa taraha maaNgeN| aura kisase mA~geM? dAdAzrI : khuda ke zuddhAtmA se, 'jJAnI puruSa' se zaktiyA~ mA~gI jA sakatI haiM aura jinheM svarUpajJAna nahIM ho, ve khuda ke guru, mUrti, prabhu jinheM mAnatA ho, unake pAsa se zaktiyA~ mA~ganI caahie| jo-jo khuda meM galata dikhe usakA lisTa banAnA cAhie aura usake lie zaktiyA~ maaNge| zraddhA se, jJAna se, jo galata hai, use nakkI karake rakho ki yaha galata hI hai| usake pratikramaNa karo, jJAnI ke pAsa se zaktiyA~ mA~go ki aisA nahIM honA cAhie, taba vaha jaaegaa| bar3I gA~The hoM, ve sAmAyika se vilaya ho jAtI haiM aura dUsare choTe-choTe doSa to prArthanA se hI khatma ho jAte haiN| binA prArthanA se jo utpanna huA hai, vaha prArthanA se khatma ho jAtA hai| yaha saba ajJAna se utpanna ho gayA hai| paudgalika zaktiyA~ prArthanA se khatma ho jAtI haiN| phisala jAnA AsAna hai aura car3hanA muzkila hai| kyoMki phisalane meM paudgalika zaktiyA~ hotI haiN| praznakartA : prArthanA matalaba kyA? dAdAzrI : pra + arthanA = praarthnaa| pra yAnI vizeSa artha kI mA~ga karanA, vh| bhagavAna ke pAsa se aura adhika artha kI mA~ga karanA, vh| praznakartA : jagat meM prArthanA karate haiM, usakA phala to AtA hai na? dAdAzrI : prArthanA saccI honI cAhie, vaisA koI hI hotA hai| praznakartA : sau meM eka hotA hai na? dAdAzrI : hotA hai, koI hRdaya zuddhivAlA ho usakI prArthanA saccI hotI hai| lekina prArthanA karate samaya citta dUsarI jagaha para ho to vaha saccI prArthanA nahIM khlaatii| praznakartA : prArthanA kareM to kisake lie aura kisalie kareM? dAdAzrI : prArthanA arthAt svayaM khuda kI khoja karatA hai| bhagavAna khuda ke bhItara hI baiThe haiM, para unase pahacAna nahIM huI hai isalie maMdira meM yA jinAlaya meM jAkara darzana karate haiM vaha parokSa darzana hai| prArthanA : satya kA Agraha praznakartA : eka vyakti hai, vaha kevala satya ke rAste para calatA hai aura dUsarA hai vaha prArthanA karatA hai. to donoM meM se kauna saccA hai? donoM meM se kise bhagavAna jaldI mileMge? dAdAzrI : prArthanA kare use| praznakartA : 'satya hI Izvara hai' aisA kahA jAtA hai na? dAdAzrI : yaha satya Izvara nahIM hai| yaha satya to badala jAe aisA hai| yaha Apa mAnate ho ki 'maiM caMdUbhAI hU~' vaha galata hI hai na? yaha satya vinAzI hai, yaha kharA sat nahIM hai| kharA sat to jo avinAzI hai vahI sat
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________________ (15) AcaraNa meM dharma hai| vahI sat-citta AnaMda svarUpa hai| isa jagat kA satya kaisA hai? Apa aisA kaho ki, 'isa vyakti ko maiMne paise die haiM, vaha luccA hai, vApisa nahIM de rahA / ' taba dUsarA vyakti Apase kahegA ki, 'kicakica kisalie kara rahe ho? ghara jAkara khA-pIkara cupacApa so jA na zAMti se, kalaha kisalie kara rahe ho?' Apa use kaho ki, 'kalaha karanI caahie| merA satya hai|' to Apa sabase bar3e gunahagAra ho / satya kaisA honA cAhie? sAdhAraNa honA caahie| satya meM naitikatA honI caahie| usameM kisIko dhokhA yA nukasAna nahIM hotA, luccAI nahIM hotii| corI nahIM hotii| naitikatA hI cAhie, dUsarI kisI cIz2a kI z2arUrata nahIM hai| ye satya ko pakar3akara jo baiThe the, ve aMta meM dariyA meM gire haiM! 131 satya kA Agraha karanA, vaha poijana hai aura asatya kA Agraha karanA, vaha bhI poijana hai| praznakartA: jisa taraha satya ke Apa vibhAga banAte haiM, vaise prArthanA meM bhI vibhAga hote haiM na? daMbhI prArthanA AtI hai na? dAdAzrI : prArthanA bilkula saccI honI cAhie, gappabAz2I nahIM clegii| totA AyArAma-gayArAma bolatA hai, rAma rAma bolatA hai, vaha samajhakara bolatA hai yA binA samajhe? usI prakAra ye prArthanAe~ samajhakara, vicArapUrvaka, hRdaya para asara ho vaisI honI caahie| (16) 'rileTiva' dharma : vijJAna 'rileTiva' dharma, Devalapa hone ke lie 'rileTiva' dharma, vaha svabhAvika dharma nahIM hai, jaba ki 'riyala' dharma svabhAvika dharma hai| vaha svabhAvika sukha utpanna karatA hai| vaha to 'khuda kauna hai' aisA jAnatA hai, 'yaha saba kauna calAtA hai' yaha jAneM taba moha TUTatA hai| nahIM to 'yaha' merI bahana hai aura mausI hai, usa mausI para se bhI moha TUTatA nahIM hai na! yadi jala gae hoM to koI pUcha jAtA hai, varnA lagAva kisIko bhI nahIM hotaa| jagat ke sAre 'rileTiva' dharma virodhAbhAsavAle haiN| 'rileTiva' dharma kise kahA jAtA hai ki isa dhotI ko zuddha karanA ho to sAbuna se dhonA par3atA hai, para phira sAbuna apanA maila chor3atA jAtA hai| sAbuna kA maila nikAlane ke lie TinopaoNla DAlo to vaha TinopaoNla vApisa apanA maila chor3atA jAtA hai ! vaise hI ye laukika guru ApakA maila nikAlate haiM aura phira khuda kA maila chor3ate jAte haiM! sAre 'rileTiva' dharma maila se maila nikAlane kA kAma karate haiM! vItarAgI jJAna sunA nahIM, jAnA nahIM aura zraddhA meM nhiiN| yadi vaisA huA hotA to kAma hI ho gayA hotA! vItarAgI jJAna, vItarAgI puruSa ke binA nahIM miltaa| parokSa bhajanA se saMsAra khar3A hotA hai, puNya baMdhatA hai| usase saMsAra mIThA lagatA hai aura usase to saMsAra meM aura adhika gahare utaratA hai, isase to kar3avA acchaa| jo 'rileTiva' dharma cala rahe haiM ve kyA kahate haiM ki acche kArya
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________________ (16) 'rileTiva' dharma : vijJAna 133 134 AptavANI-4 praznakartA : dAdA, Apa jo 'rileTiva' kahate haiM, usakI maryAdA kyA kr| bhale ahaMkAra se kara, para usakA phala acchA milegA, puNya bNdhegaa| bAjarA boyA ho to bAjarA milegA aura kuca (ghAsa) boyA ho to kuca milegaa| isalie tujhe anukUla ho vaha ugaanaa| kharAba vicAroM ko ukhAr3a denA pdd'egaa| para yaha to kyA karatA hai ki acche bIja DAlatA hai aura bera ke bhI DAlatA hai ! to ye bera kI jhAr3iyA~ uga nikalI haiM ! 'rileTiva' sArA miksacara hai aura 'riyala' svataMtra hai| jisameM parivartana hotA hai vaha 'rileTiva' kA hai, 'rileTiva' arthAta jisameM milAvaTa ho gaI hai vaha aura 'riyala' arthAt zuddha! 'rileTiva' kI cAhe jitanI slAisa kareM to unameM se eka bhI riyala' kI slAisa milegI kyA? vItarAgoM ne kahA hai ki yaha Apa karate ho, usase Age to bahuta kucha hai| phira bhI ye mArga haiM, aise karate-karate Age bar3hA jaaegaa| hara eka dharmavAlA apane dharma ko aMtima sTezana mAnatA hai, phira bhI usake lie ThIka hai, aisA mAne to hI Devalapa hotA jaaegaa| vItarAga dharma hI mokSArtha jJAna to apAra hai, lekina vItarAgoM ne jisa jJAna ko jIta liyA hai, usase Age jJAna hI nahIM hai| kisI jagaha para 'hAreM' nahIM, ve hI vItarAga! zAyada kabhI deha hAra jAe, mana hAra jAe, vANI hAra jAe para ve khada nahIM haarte| vItarAga kaise sayAne hote haiM! vItarAgoM kA dharma to saiddhAMtika hai, arthAt naqada phala milatA hai| mokSa kA naqada phala milatA hai! jo mokSadAtA bhagavAna haiM, ve niSpakSapAtI haiN| vItarAga bhagavAna bhItara haiM, ve niSpakSapAtI haiN| vItarAga dharma kise kahate haiM ki jo 360 DigrI kA dharma ho, saMpUrNa dharma ho| saccA dharma, rahasyapUrNa dharma niSpakSapAtI hotA hai| pakSapAta galata nahIM hai, vaha sTenDarDa meM rakhatA hai aura AuTa oNpha sTenDarDa meM niSpakSapAta hai| 'yaha' to sAinsa hai, dharma nhiiN| hindU dharma, jaina dharma, krizciyana dharma, ve sabhI dharma haiN| sAinsa eka hI hotA hai aura dharma alaga-alaga hote haiN| ___'rileTiva' dharma kI maryAdA jagat ke dharma 'rileTiva' dharma haiM, ve 'rileTiva' meM helpa karate haiM, 'riyala' kI ora lAne meM helpa karate haiN| dAdAzrI : pA~ca indriyoM se jo anubhava meM AtA hai, jo hotA hai, vaha sArA hI 'rileTiva' kI sImA meM hotA hai| praznakartA : 'rileTiva' kA 'riyala' ke sAtha saMbaMdha hai kyA? dAdAzrI : hai hI na! 'riyala' thA tabhI 'rileTiva' khar3A huA na ! 'riyala' ke saMsarga se 'rileTiva' utpanna huA hai, avasthA utpanna huI hai aura jo avasthA hai na, vaha vinAzI hai| praznakartA : 'riyala' jaba taka prApta nahIM huA ho, taba taka 'rileTiva' kI z2arUrata hai na? dAdAzrI : jaba taka 'riyala' nahIM milA, taba taka 'rileTiva' hI hotA hai| 'riyala' prApta hone ke bAda hI 'rileTiva' alaga hotA hai| pAriNAmika dharma kA tharmAmITara dAdAzrI : abhI kyA kara rahe ho? praznakartA : zrImad rAjacaMdra kI pustakoM kA adhyayana aura dharma kA adhyayana karatA huuN| dAdAzrI : pustakeM par3hane mAtra se kAma nahIM ho jAtA, vahA~ to kaSAya rahita honA pdd'egaa| 'caMdUbhAI meM akkala nahIM hai', aisA Apake sunane meM Ae to Apako duHkha hogA yA nahIM hogA? asara hogA usakA? praznakartA : hogaa| dAdAzrI : to usa zabda se coTa lagI aapko| jaba taka zabdoM se coTa lagatI hai, taba taka dharma kA Apane kucha bhI prApta nahIM kiyA, aisA maannaa| patthara lage to vaha ThIka hai, usakI malahama paTTI-davAI karanI par3atI hai| parantu yaha zabda kI coTa lagatI hai, vaha dharma kA phala nahIM hai!
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________________ (16) 'rileTiva' dharma : vijJAna 135 AptavANI-4 1. dharmAdharma AtmA (mUr3hAtmA) 2. jJAnadhana AtmA (aMtarAtmA) 3. vijJAnaghana AtmA (paramAtmA) jJAnaghana AtmA dharma kA phala vaha hai ki zabda se coTa nahIM lge| apane pAsa kucha to honA cAhie na ki jo batAe ki kitanA buqhAra car3hA aura kitanA utarA? mukhya bhAvanA, mokSamArga meM tIna cIz2oM kI mokSamArga meM z2arUrata hai: 1. AtmA prApta karane kI tIvra icchaa| 2. 'jJAnI puruSa' prApta karane kI tIvra icchaa| 3. 'jJAnI puruSa' nahIM mileM taba taka 'jJAnI puruSa' prApta hoM, aisI bhAvanA krnaa| prathama 'jJAnI puruSa' ke lie bhAvanA karanI cAhie, ve mileM to lAbha ho jAtA hai| basa itanA hI mUla rAstA hai, dUsarA saba vyavahAra dharma hai| aura vyavahAra dharma meM nizcaya dharma hai to basa ye tIna vAkya hI haiN| itanA samajha meM Ae to hala A jaaegaa| 'pUre brahmAMDa ke jIva-mAtra ke riyala svarUpa ko atyaMta bhakti se namaskAra karatA huuN| riyala svarUpa, vaha bhagavat svarUpa hai, isalie pUre jagat kA bhagavat svarUpa se darzana karatA huuN|' yaha vAkya yadi samajha jAe, taba bhI dharma prApta kara liyA kahA jaaegaa| ye sAre dharma 'rileTiva' dharma haiN| rileTiva' dharma arthAt bhautika du:kha nikAlakara bhautika sukha denevAle haiM, ye mokSa denevAle nahIM haiN| 'rileTiva' arthAt vyU poinTa! eka-eka vyU poinTa meM lAkhoM loga hote haiN| dharmAdharma AtmA adharma ko dhakkA mAratA rahe vaha dharma, use dharmAdharma kahA jAtA hai| jahA~ bhI adharma ho vahA~ dharma hotA hI hai, kyoMki adharma nikAlane ke lie hI dharma hai| AtmA kI tIna dazAe~ haiM: siddhAMta kaba kahalAtA hai? dharmAdharma pada meM se Age bar3he aura 'jJAnI puruSa' kI kRpA kA pAtra ho jAe, taba jJAnadhana AtmA meM AtA hai| AtmA jJAnaghana hai aura avinAzI hai| jJAnaghana arthAt kyA ki 'vaoNTa iz2a riyala enDa vaoNTa ija rileTiva?' yAnI ki zAzvatI aura azAzvatI vastu ko pahacAnane lage taba thiyarI oNpha riyAliTI meM AtA hai aura mokSa hotA hai| taba zuddhAtmA kA lakSya baiThatA hai, alakha-niraMjana kA lakSya baiThatA hai, taba kAma hotA hai| yaha saMsAra 'rileTiva' hai aura hama 'riyala' haiN| yAnI hameM 'riyala' ke pakSa meM rahanA hai aura 'rileTiva' kA nikAla karanA hai| cipaTe hae bhUta kA nikAla karanA par3egA na? yaha to sAinsa hai| sAinsa meM kisIko matabheda nahIM hotaa| matabheda dharmAdharma meM hotA hai| jitane dharma calate haiM, una sabhI meM matabheda hotA hai, vikalpa hote haiN| vikalpa kaba taka kahalAte haiM? dharmAdharma AtmA hai, taba tk| adharma ko dhakke mAratA rahe, vaha dhrm| are, adharma ke sAtha ThIka nahIM lagatA ho to rAga-dveSa ke binA raha na, para kisa taraha rahe? adharma ke prati dveSa aura dharma ke prati rAga!! dharmAdharma AtmA, vaha mithyAtva dazA hai| 'rileTiva' dharma dharmAdharma kahalAte haiN| rileTiva' dharma kare to acchA kahalAtA hai, Age jAkara acchA khAnA-pInA milegA aura gAr3I clegii| para ye saba sigar3I ke sukha kahalAte haiN| sigar3I kahIM koTa se cipaTAI jAtI hai? mokSa jAne ke lie to adharma ko yA kisIko bhI dhakkA nahIM mAranA pdd'taa| mokSa jAne ke lie to adharma kA aura dharma kA, donoM kA nikAla karanA hai| dharmAdharma vaha deha kA, mana kA, buddhi kA, prakRti kA svabhAva hai aura AtmA kA vItarAga svabhAva hai| yadi Apako vItarAga svabhAva meM rahanA ho to dharma ke prati prema sthApita mata karanA aura adharma ke sAtha kica-kica mata krnaa|'oNl dIz2a rileTivsa Ara TemparerI enDa riyala iz2a prmaanentt'|
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________________ (16) 'rileTiva' dharma : vijJAna 137 138 AptavANI-4 jJAnI puruSa jJAnaghana AtmA de sakate haiM, jo dharmAdharma se nikAla letA hai| dharmAdharma AtmA hai, taba taka bhaTakana hai| dharma kA phala bhautika sukha aura adharma kA phala bhautika duHkha haiN| dharma se saMsAra prApta hotA hai| 'thiyarI oNpha riyAliTi' meM AyA, taba jJAnadhana AtmA prApta hotA hai| usake bAda kyA rahA? 'thiyarI oNpha ebsolyUTiz2ama!' vaha vijJAnaghana AtmA hai| vijJAnaghana AtmA jJAna arthAt AtmA aura vijJAna arthAt prmaatmaa| yaha to sAinsa hai| AtmA-paramAtmA kA sAinsa arthAt siddhAMta ! usameM kisI jagaha para aMza mAtra cenja nahIM hotA aura TheTha ArapAra le jAtA hai| jJAnaghana AtmA meM Ane ke bAda, avinAzI pada ko prApta karane ke bAda vijJAnadhana ko jAnanA caahie| vijJAnadhana arthAt sabhI meM 'maiM hI ha~', aisA dikhe vaha vijJAnadhana AtmA kahalAtA hai - baMdhA huA hai, phira bhI mukta rahe! 'jJAnI puruSa' vijJAnaghana AtmA hote hai ! 'thiyarI oNpha ebsolyUTiz2ama' meM hI nahIM parantu khuda thIyarama oNpha ebsolyUTiz2ama meM hote haiN| pUre varlDa kA puNya jAgA ki yaha akrama vijJAna nikalA, vijJAnaghana AtmA nikalA!! pUrA varlDa sAyansa ke rUpa meM hai, phira bhI Aja loga sAinsa ko jAnate nahIM haiM, isalie dharma ke pIche daur3ate rahate haiN| parantu yadi sAinsa jAna le ki itanI vastu hai aura yaha kisa taraha calatI hai, to vaha mukta ho jaae| yahI atyaMta gahana pahelI hai| gaccha-mata, vahA~ 'rileTiva' dharma jaina dharma, vaiSNava dharma, muslima dharma, pArasI dharma, IsAI dharma vagairaha saba 'rileTiva' dharma kahalAte haiN| ina dharmoM ko aura 'isa' kA kucha lenAdenA nahIM hai| yaha 'riyala' vastu hai| 'rileTiva' dharma arthAt sTepa bAya sTepa Age bar3hAtA hai| usameM bhI 'rileTiva' dharma sacce nahIM haiN| jahA~ gaccha (sampradAya kA eka varga)-mata hoM, vahA~ eka bhI dharma saccA nahIM hotaa| gaccha aura mata ho, vahA~ mokSa kA mArga hI nahIM hotaa| mokSamArga hotA hI nhiiN| pakSa aura mokSa donoM virodhAbhAsI haiN| jahA~ gaccha-mata hai, vahA~ saMsArI se bhI adhika baMdhana hai| mokSa to vItarAga dharma se hai| saMpradAya arthAt ekAMtika kahalAtA hai| vItarAga dharma ekAMtika nahIM hotA, anekAMtika hotA hai| vItarAga, saMpradAya se bAhara hotA hai| vItarAga dharma arthAt matabheda rhit| apanA anekAMta mArga hai| yahA~ pArasI haiM, jaina haiM, muslima haiM, vaiSNava haiN| yahA~ sabhI ko mAfika Ae, vaisI bAteM hotI hai| yahA~ syAdavAda vANI hai| ekAMtika dharma ho vahA~ eka hI prakAra ke loga, eka matavAle hI saba loga Ate haiM, dUsarA koI nahIM jaataa| vItarAga vANI se saba du:khoM kA kSaya hotA haiN| mata aura gaccha haiM, taba taka mokSamArga to kyA para dharma bhI prApta nahIM kiyA, aisA kahA jaaegaa| prApta kara liyA' nahIM kahA jAegA! praznakartA : 'prApta kara liyA' kaba kahA jAegA? dAdAzrI : kleza jAe, ciMtA jAe, taba 'prApta kara liyA' kahA jaaegaa| jisameM gAliyA~ de to bhI kleza-ciMtA nahIM ho. dhaula mAre to bhI kleza nahIM ho, abhI gAr3I meM biThAe~ to bhI kleza nahIM ho aura gAr3I meM se turanta utAra deM to bhI kleza nahIM ho, to use 'prApta kara liyA' kahA jAegA! nahIM to 'prApta kara liyA' kahalAegA hI kaise? dharmasAra arthAt..... duniyA meM do prakAra ke sAra haiM : dharmasAra aura smysaar| dharma kise kahate haiM? dharmasAra prApta huA to dharma huA kahA jAtA hai| dharmasAra kise kahate haiM? ArtadhyAna aura raudradhyAna nahIM hoM, use| sabhI khAe, pIe, ghUme, phire, vyApAra kare, parantu raudradhyAna aura ArtadhyAna nahIM hoM, use dharmasAra kahA hai aura marma kA sAra arthAt mukti| yaha dharma kA jo marma hai, usakA sAra nikalA, vahI mukti kahalAtI hai| dharma ke sAra se mukti nahIM hotI, parantu dharmasAra meM se marma utpanna hogaa| aura marma sAra se mukti hogii| sabhI dharmoM kA sAra kyA haiM? ArtadhyAna aura raudradhyAna gayA? nahIM gayA to tU dharma meM nahIM hai| kama huA? to kahate haiM, 'haaN|' kama huA ho vaise logoM ko calo mAna leM ki yaha dharma meM hai| lekina jinheM kama nahIM huA, khUba hotA hai, ve dharma meM haiM aisA svIkAra nahIM hotaa|
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________________ (16) 'rileTiva' dharma : vijJAna 139 dharmasAra kise kahA jAtA hai? Apako cher3e-kareM to bhI kisIkA doSa nahIM dikhe, use| jagat kA sAra kyA hai? to kahe, vissysukh| dharma kA sAra kyA hai? to kahe, ArtadhyAna aura raudradhyAna nahIM hoM, vh| dharmasAra, jagat meM mukhya sAra hai| dharmasAra prApta nahIM huA, vaha dharma hI galata hai| phira jaina ho yA vaiSNava ho yA cAhe jo ho, ve grahaNa kI huI sArI bAteM galata haiM! svAbhAvika pariNati, svapariNati utpanna huI yAnI samayasAra utpanna huaa| dharma kyA? vijJAna kyA? dharma aura vijJAna meM farka hai| vijJAna saiddhAMtika hotA hai aura dharma sabhI 'rileTiva' hote haiM, unakA phala bhI 'rileTiva' hotA hai aura unakI kriyAe~ bhI 'rileTiva' hotI haiN| 'maiM' 'caMdUbhAI hU~', aisA mAnakara Apa jo karate ho vaha dharma hai aura 'jaisA hai vaisA' yathArtha jAnA, vaha vijJAna kahalAtA hai| ni:zaMka hone ke bAda, khuda kA svarUpa jAnane ke bAda 'jaisA hai vaisA' jAne vaha vijJAna kahalAtA hai| vijJAna avirodhAbhAsI hotA hai, 'jaisA hai vaisA' phekTa vastu hI batAtA hai| praznakartA : ise jarA vistAra se smjhaaie| dAdAzrI : aisA hai na, 'Apa caMdUbhAI ho' aisA karake kisIko gAliyA~ do to vaha adharma kahalAegA aura kisIko acchA-acchA khilAo-pilAo, kisIke mana ko zAMti do, vaha dharma kahalAegA aura kisIko kharAba lage, kisIke mana ko azAMti de to vaha adharma khlaaegaa| 'rileTiva' vastu se 'rileTiva' utpanna hotA hai aura 'riyala' vasta se 'rileTiva' utpanna nahIM hotaa| 'riyala' se sArA 'riyala' hI utpanna hotA hai, sirpha 'riyala' ko riyalAiz2a karanA bAkI hai| abhI to Apako bhrAmaka mAnyatAe~ haiM ki 'yaha saba merI zakti se calatA hai. bhagavAna ne kiyA. mere graha kharAba hai| vAstava meM kartA dUsarA hI hai| (17) bhagavAna kA svarUpa, jJAna dRSTi se Izvara kA aMza yA sarvAMza? dAdAzrI : Apa kauna ho? praznakartA : maiM Izvara kA aMza huuN| dAdAzrI : yaha aMza kI bAta logoM ko samajhAkara ulTe rAste para calAyA hai| khuda bhagavAna kA aMza kisa prakAra se ho sakatA hai? bhagavAna ke Tukar3e kisa taraha kie jA sakate haiM? AtmA asaMyogI vastu hai| saMyogI vastu ho to usake Tukar3e kreN| AtmA svAbhAvika vastu hai, svAbhAvika ke Tukar3e nahIM ho skte| vAstava meM Apa sarvAMza hI ho, parantu Avarita ho| Izvara kA maiM aMza hU~' usakA artha kyA kahanA cAhate haiM ki mujhe aMzajJAna prakaTa huA hai, aMza AvaraNa khulA hai| ye sUryanArAyaNa to pUrNa haiM, parantu jitanA viraNa haTA utane aMzoM meM prakAza huA, parantu sUryanArAyaNa to sarvAMza hI haiN| vaise hI Apa khuda sarvAMza hI ho, mAtra Avarita ho| zurUAta meM ekendriya jIva hotA hai, usakA aMza AvaraNa khula gayA hai| use kulhAr3I mAro to duHkha hotA hai, parantu gAliyA~ do yA cAya do to use kucha bhI nahIM hotaa| phira do indriya ve sIpa, phira tIna indriya kITa pataMge, phira cAra indriya aura phira pA~ca indriya hote haiN| paMcendriyavAle ko paMcendriya jitanA AvaraNa khulA hai| bAkI bhagavAna hara eka meM sarvAMza rUpa meM hI haiM, mAtra AvaraNa sahita hai| saMpUrNa nirAvaraNa ho jAe to Apa khuda hI paramAtmA ho| jisakA vibhAjana hotA ho, usake aMza hote haiN| AtmA to avibhAjya hai, usake anaMta pradeza avibhAjya rUpI haiN|
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________________ (17) bhagavAna kA svarUpa, jJAna dRSTi se 141 142 AptavANI-4 prApta kiyA hai| vaha saMkalpI cetana hai| aura Apa yaha vastu unase pUche binA le lo, to utanA doSa Apako lagegA aura usakI kImata dekara Apa lo aura phira use tor3a DAlo, cUracUra kara do, to bhI doSa nahIM lgegaa| cetana tatva to vaha ki jisameM jJAna hai, darzana hai| jAgRti hue binA khuda kA bhAna prakaTa nahIM hotA hai| saMpUrNa jAgRti Ae to khuda kA bhAna prakaTa hotA hai aura bhAna prakaTa ho taba khada sarvAMza rUpa se Izvara hai, aisA khuda ko patA calatA hai, anubhava meM AtA hai aura usake bAda kI jo kriyA hotI hai usameM duHkha nahIM hotA hai kabhI bhii| bhagavAna kI sarvavyApakatA dAdAzrI : bhagavAna kahA~ rahate hoMge? praznakartA : bhagavAna to sarvavyApI haiN| kaNa-kaNa meM saba ora hI bhagavAna haiN| dAdAzrI: taba to phira bhagavAna ko kahIM bhI ha~Dhane ko rahA hI nahIM na? yadi sabhI jagaha bhagavAna haiM to phira saMDAsa kahA~ jAe~? sabhI jagaha bhagavAna hoM to phira jar3a aura cetana jaisA kucha alaga rahA hI nahIM na? isalie aisA nahIM hai| jar3a bhI hai aura cetana bhI hai| sabhI geha~ hoM to bInane ko kyA rahA? gehU~ meM se gehU~ pahacAno, tabhI ka~kar3a bIne jAeMge aura ka~kar3a ko pahacAnoge taba bhI kAma ho jaaegaa| usI taraha isameM se AtmA ko jAno to anAtmA ko jAna sakoge aura anAtmA ko jAnoge to bhI AtmA ko pahacAna skoge| jaba ki ye loga kahate haiM ki saba jagaha bhagavAna haiM to phira unheM DhU~Dhane kA kahA~ rahA? saMkalpI cetana ye loga kahate haiM ki kaNa-kaNa meM bhagavAna haiM, isameM haiM, usameM haiN| usa kahanevAle kI bhASA meM aura usakA artha karanevAle kI bhASA meM farka hogA yA nahIM? praznakartA : farka to hogA hI na? dAdAzrI : vaha kisa apekSA se kahA hai, vaha samajhAtA huuN| isa jagat meM AtmA aura anAtmA do vibhAga haiN| isa tipAI meM cetana nahIM hai, para yaha vastu 'caMdUbhAI' kI milkiyata hai, isalie usane utane cetana bhAva ko
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________________ 144 AptavANI-4 karane kA guNa hai? praznakartA : vaha AtmA kA guNa nahIM hai| bhUla se kaSAya kara baiThatA (18) jJAtApada kI pahacAna Apa AtmA? pahacAne binA? dAdAzrI : kyA nAma hai? praznakartA : cNduulaal| dAdAzrI : vAstava meM 'Apa caMdUlAla ho' vaha bAta nizcita hai? yA usameM zaMkA hai? praznakartA : vaha to zarIra kA nAma hai| dAdAzrI : to Apa kauna ho? praznakartA : aatmaa| dAdAzrI : AtmA arthAt kyA? AtmA arthAt yaha deha hai vaha AtmA hai yA ye cUr3iyA~ haiM, ve AtmA haiM yA dimAg2a hai, vaha AtmA hai? kise AtmA kaheMge? use pahacAnanA par3egA na? AtmA kA jJAna to jAnanA par3egA na? praznakartA : aNtraatmaa| dAdAzrI : haaN| aMtarAtmA to hai para use jAnanA paDegA na ki usake kyA guNadharma haiM? vaha khAtA-pItA hai yA nahIM khAtA-pItA? yA phira koI jalA de to vaha jalatA hai yA nahIM jalatA? AtmA kI bhUla? AtmA kA guNa kyA hai? usakA ciMtA karane kA guNa hai yA kaSAya dAdAzrI : AtmA se bhUla ho, to vaha AtmA hI kaise kahalAegA? AtmA to paramAtmA hI hai| vaha bhUla karegA hI kahA~ se? aura AtmA kI bhUla dikhAnevAle hama vApisa usake UparI ki 'bhAI, AtmA ne bhUla kI?' AtmA ne bhUla kI yaha vAkya iTaselpha kahatA hai ki AtmA ne bhUla kI hai aura hama zuddha haiM, binA bhUla ke!(?) AtmA khuda hI paramAtmA hai, khuda hI vItarAga hai| vaha to svarUpa kA bhAna nahIM huA hai isalie khuda mAnatA hai ki, 'maiM caMdUlAla huuN|' 'maiM caMdUlAla hU~', vaha Aropita bhAva hai, kalpita bhAva hai, 'rileTiva' bhAva hai| to 'riyala' meM kauna hoMge Apa? yaha caMdUlAla, to 'rileTiva' kahalAtA hai| 'rileTiva' meM bahuta taraha ke vikalpa hote haiM, 'maiM unakI beTI hU~, mausI hU~, cAcI hU~' aise bahuta vikalpa haiM, jaba ki 'riyala' meM koI vikalpa nahIM hai| 'riyala' kA riyalAiz2a kiyA jAe to hameM patA cala jAegA ki svarUpa kA bhAna huA, isalie mokSa jAne kI taiyArI huii| 'riyala' kA kabhI bhI bhAna hI nahIM huaa| AtmA kA bhAna honA, use samakita athavA samyak darzana kahate haiN| samakita nahIM huA thA kabhI bhI, yadi huA hotA to yahA~ baiThe nahIM hote hm| samakita ke binA ghar3Ibhara bhI aMtarazAMti nahIM rahatI, mUrchA meM hI rahatA hai| vivAha ho taba mUrchita ho jAtA hai aura vivAha ho jAne ke bAda, thA vaise kA vaisA, use mohanidrA kahA hai| svAdhyAya yA parAdhyAya? dAdAzrI : kisakA paThana karate ho? praznakartA : jaina svAdhyAya, sUtra, vyAkhyAna aisA saba karatA huuN| dAdAzrI : yaha svAdhyAya jo karate haiM, ve parAdhyAya karate haiN| ekabAra svarUpa kA svAdhyAya kare na, taba se hala A jaae| jagat meM calatA hai vaha parAvalaMbana hai, vaha avalaMbana saccA bhI hotA hai| parantu svAvalaMbana se to
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________________ (18) jJAtApada kI pahacAna 146 AptavANI-4 mukti prApta karatA hai aura parAvalaMbana se bhaTakatA hI rahatA hai| aMta meM to ahaMkAra vilaya karanA hai ina manuSyoM kA svabhAva kaisA hai ki zubhAzubha mArga ko grahaNa karanA, use dharma mAnate haiN| sabhI dharmoM meM zubhAzubha hI hai| jainadharma meM yadi zubhAzubha kI bAta ho to vaha nicalI koTi kA mAnA jAegA, vahA~ to zubhAzubha kI bAta hI nahIM hotii| usameM to kathAnuyoga arthAt ki jo uttama puruSa ho cuke haiM, uttama zreSThI, uttama jJAnI ho cuke haiM, unakA varNana sunate haiN| usameM se bhAva jagate haiM ki mujhe bhI aisA honA hai| jaina dharma kA sAra hI yaha hai, jaba ki Aja to zubhAzubha meM par3a gae! jainoM meM cAra prakAra ke anuyoga haiM - kathAnuyoga, caraNAnuyoga, karuNAnuyoga aura dravyAnuyoga haiM aura vedAMta meM cAra yoga haiN| bhagavAna ne kahA hai ki yadi tU jaina hai to ina cAra anuyogoM kA paThana karanA aura usa vedAMta meM cAra yogoM kA paThana karanA, to AtmA milegaa| zubhAzubha se to ahaMkAra bar3hatA hai aura kathAnayoga se ahaMkAra nahIM bddh'taa| vastupAla-tejapAla kI kathA sunakara bhAva hotA hai ki hama bhI vaise bneN| yaha to ahaMkAra bar3ha gae haiN| jainoM meM ahaMkAra kitanA honA cAhie? ghara ke saMcAlana ke lAyaka yA vyApAra ke laayk| yaha to nirA tUfAna lagA rakhA hai! 'jJAtA' ko hI 'jJeya' banAyA! "anAdi se 'jJeya' ko hI 'jJAtA' samajhakara barateM log|"- nvniit| anAdi se logoM kA lie dharma kisameM baratatA hai? jJeya ko jJAtA mAnakara dharma karate haiN|'aacaary', vaha 'jJeya' hai aura 'khada'"jJAtA' hai. lekina bhrAMti se jJeya ko svayaM mAnatA hai| 'AcArya' ko 'khuda hI hai' aisA mAnatA hai| yaha vyAkhyAna maiMne diyA, zAstra maiMne par3he, tapa maiMne hI kiyA, tyAga maiMne kiyaa|' parantu karanevAlA jAnatA nahIM aura jAnanevAlA karatA nhiiN| karanevAle kA aura jAnanevAle kA kabhI bhI milApa thA nahIM, hai nahIM aura hogA nhiiN| yaha to kahegA, 'maiM hI AcArya hU~ aura maiMne hI vyAkhyAna diyaa|' hama to samajha gae ki Apa kauna-se sTezana para baiThe ho! mATuMgA sTezana para baiThA huA hai aura kahatA hai ki agalA sTezana hI kalakattA hai| nahIM, vaha to agalA sTezana to mAhima kI khAr3I kA AyA! anaMta janmoM taka bhaTakegA to bhI kalakattA nahIM AegA! jJAtA-vaha jJAtA hai aura jJeya-vaha jJeya hai| 'caMdUbhAI', ve jJeya haiN| isakA bhAI', vaha jJeya hai, 'isa vyApAra kA mAlika hai', vaha jJeya hai| isa makAna kA mAlika hai', vaha jJeya hai aura 'hama' jJAtA haiN| hama jJAtA aura yaha jJeya, aise dekhate rahe to phira samAdhi rahatI hai| hamArA' dharma kyA hai? kyA huA use dekhanA aura jJAtA-dRSTAparamAnaMdI! dharma kise kahA jAtA hai? sonA sone ke dharma meM ho use| sonA pItala ke dharma meM ho, vaha svadharma nahIM kahalAtA, vaha paradharma kahalAtA hai| yaha to jo caMdUlAla banakara baiThA hai, vaha deha ke dharma ko khuda kA mAnatA hai, aMta:karaNa ke dharma ko khuda kA dharma mAnatA hai| vaha paradharma hai| paradharma se kabhI bhI mokSa nahIM hogA, svadharma se mokSa hai| sonA hara samaya apane dharma meM hI hai| para yaha to 'caMdUlAla' kA AropaNa karate haiM, itanA hI nahIM, sAtha meM vApisa kahatA hai ki isakA sasura, isakA beTA, isakA bApa, korTa meM jAe-taba isakA vakIla, dukAna meM ho-taba seTha' yahI bhrAMti hai| 'svayaM zuddhAtmA hI hai', para aise Aropa ke kAraNa samajha meM nahIM aataa| ajJAna nivRtti vijJAna se mokSadharma arthAt ajJAna se nivRtti ho, vh| isa' mokSamArga meM ajJAna se nivRtti karavA dete haiM, isalie jJAna meM huI pravRtti ! ajJAna nivRtta ho jAe to vijJAna utpanna hotA hai| parantu jJAnI ke binA kisIse ajJAna nivRtta nahIM hotA, kisIkA dehAdhyAsa nahIM chUTatA hai| dehAdhyAsa kI nivRtti, hI mokSa hai| eka hI aMza jJAna kI pravRtti ho jAe to sarvAza ho jaae| eka hI aMza sAinsa ho jAe to sarvAza ho jaae| kyoMki jJAna, vaha sAinsa hai, ajJAna, vaha sAinsa nahIM hai| eka aMza vijJAna kaba utpanna hotA hai? ki 'isa' rAste ke jAnakAra hoM, rAste ke jAnakAra se pUchanA par3atA hai, taba rAstA milatA hai| vaise hI 'ina' jAnakAra 'jJAnI paruSa' se pache to mArga kI prApti hotI hai| 'yaha' dharma nahIM hai, sAinsa hai| yaha to 'riyala' dharma hai| yaha hamezA prakaTa nahIM rhtaa| yaha to caudaha lokoM ke nAtha hamAre bhItara prakaTa hue
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________________ (18) jJAtApada kI pahacAna 147 haiN| yaha deha hai, vaha to bulabulA hai, yaha kaba phUTa jAe kahA nahIM jA sktaa| yaha hai taba taka Apa apanA kAma nikAla lo| vItarAgoM meM jaisA prakAza huA thA, vaisA prakAza hai| ina 'jJAnI puruSa' ke pAsa saMpUrNa samAdhAna ho jAe, vaisA hai, isalie ApakA kAma nikAla lo| hama to Apako itanA kaha dete haiN| hama vItarAga haiM, isalie Apako phira patra nahIM likheMge ki aaie| baMdhana meM se mukti dilavAe-vaha dhrm| saccI Az2AdI de, vaha dharma kahalAtA hai| (19) yathArtha bhaktimArga zraddhA hI phala detI hai aisA hai, devatA ApakI bilIfa ke adhIna hai| mUrti meM darzana karo, para bilIfa nahIM ho to kyA phAyadA? bilIfa anaavakAza rUpa se ho to vaha rAta-dina yAda AyA karatI hai| isalie mUrti meM zraddhA rkho| mUrti bhagavAna nahIM hai, ApakI zraddhA hI bhagavAna hai| phira bhI bhagavAna ke darzana karo to bhAva se krnaa| mehanata karake darzana karane jAo, para darzana ThIka se bhAva se nahIM karo to mehanata bekAra jaaegii| bhagavAna ke maMdira meM yA jinAlaya meM jAkara sacce darzana karane kI icchA ho to maiM Apako darzana karane kA saccA tarIkA sikhlaauuN| bolo, hai kisIko icchA? praznakartA : hA~, hai| sikhalAie daadaa| kala se hI usa anusAra darzana karane jaauuNgaa| dAdAzrI : bhagavAna ke maMdira meM jAkara kahanA ki, "he vItarAga bhagavAna! Apa mere bhItara hI birAje haiM, para mujhe usakI pahacAna nahIM huI, isalie Apake darzana karatA huuN| mujhe yaha 'jJAnI puruSa' dAdA bhagavAna ne sikhalAyA hai, isalie usa anusAra Apake darzana karatA haiN| to majhe mere 'khuda kI' pahacAna ho, aisI Apa kRpA kiijie|" jahA~ jAo vahA~ isa anusAra darzana krnaa| ye to alaga-alaga nAma die haiN| sabhI bhagavAna rileTivalI alaga-alaga haiM, parantu riyalI eka hI hai| dukAna TAvara ke pAsa ho to dukAna ke vicAra yahA~ karatA hai! are, jisa sthala para ho usa sthala ke vicAra kr| are, rAste meM bhI dukAna ke
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________________ (19) yathArtha bhaktimArga vicAra karate-karate jAtA hai! aura maMdira jAne ko nikale taba koI dharma ke vicAra karatA hI nahIM! vahA~ to dukAna ke vicAra karatA hai| kucha ko to roz2a maMdira meM jAne kI Adata par3a cukI hotI hai| are, Adata par3a cukI hai isalie tU darzana karatA hai bhagavAna ke? bhagavAna ke darzana to roz2a naye-naye hI lagane cAhie aura darzana karane jAte samaya bhItara ullAsa, phreza kA phreza hI honA caahie| yaha to roz2a DibiyA lekara darzana karane jAne kI Adata par3a cukI hai| 149 dharma kahA~ se kara sakeMge? pUre dina karma kareM yA dharma kareM? yaha to ghaMTe-do ghaMTe hI kAma kareM aura gAr3I tez2I se cale vaisA puNya ho, vahI dharma prApta kara sakatA hai aura dharma kara sakatA hai| bhakti se Izvara kI prApti praznakartA: koI bhI vyakti bhakti kare to Izvara milate haiM ? dAdAzrI : ina pA~ca indriyoM se Izvara ke lie kucha bhI nahIM hotA, jo hotA hai vaha parokSa bhakti hai| praznakartA: vaha kAlpanika bhakti hai na? dAdAzrI : vaha kAlpanika hI kahalAtI hai aura nirvikalpa bhakti ho taba kAma hotA hai| vikalpa bhakti mana se hotI hai| praznakartA: mujhe bhakti sabase adhika pasaMda hai| dAdAzrI : bhakti, vaha ApakI graMthi hai| bhakti kA vicAra Ae, darzana kA vicAra Ae, vaha graMthi hai| kabhI na kabhI nigraMtha honA hI hai| Apane sunA ki parasoM DAkora (gujarAta kA eka gA~va) jAnA hai to Apako phira vahA~ jAne kI gA~Tha phUTatI hai| hAlA~ki vaha galata nahIM hai| kharAba vicAroM se to yaha acchA kahalAtA hai| bhakti arthAt kyA? ki bhakti kA raMga rakhe to saMsAra ke dUsare roga nahIM Ae~ / praznakartA: bhaktimArga paDhU~ to aisA lagatA hai ki vaha karane jaisA hai| yoga kA, karma kA, jJAnamArga kA paDhU~ to aisA lagatA hai ki vaha karane 150 AptavANI-4 jaisA hai, yaha kyA hai? dAdAzrI : pUrA jagat svacchaMda nAma ke roga meM hai, vaha khuda ke nApa se sabakucha nApane jAtA hai| praznakartA: Apa jJAna deMge, para hamArI kucha buniyAda to cAhie na ? dAdAzrI : ye sabhI binA buniyAda ke hI the| buniyAdavAlA koI huA hI nahIM hai| jisa jAne hue se Thokara lage, vaha aMdherA nahIM kahalAegA? ujAle meM Thokara nahIM lgtii| viSama paristhiti meM samatA rahe vahI jJAna kahalAtA hai, samatA meM to sabhI ko samatA rahatI hai| 'maiMne yaha kiyA, vaha kiyA, maiMne bhakti kI / ' vaha saba igoiz2ama hai| jJAna AuTa oNpha igoiz2ama hai| raNachor3ajI galata nahIM haiM, terI bhakti galata hai| phira bhI vaha parokSa bhakti hai, sekanDarI bhakti hai| parokSa bhajanA kA phala aparAbhakti aura aparokSa bhajanA kA phala parAbhakti hai| parAbhakti se mokSa hai| ye bhakta maMjhIroM kI tAla meM hI masta rahate haiN| bhagavAna ke tAla meM masta huA vaisA koI hI hotA hai| sirpha bhagavAna ke nAma para karate haiM, usase kitanA kucha hotA hai! bhakti : parokSa aura pratyakSa praznakartA: bhaktimArga meM bhautika samasyAe~ Ar3e AtI haiM na? dAdAzrI : bhaktimArga do prakAra ke haiN| eka parokSa bhakti, usase saMsAraphala milatA hai aura dhIre-dhIre Urdhvagati hotI rahatI hai| aura dUsarI pratyakSa bhakti, jahA~ bhagavAna prakaTa hue haiM unakI pratyakSa bhakti / vahA~ hala A jAtA hai| parokSa bhakti meM to bahuta bAdhAe~ AtI haiN| khuda ke hI vicAra khuda ke Ar3e Ate haiN| bhakti kA mArga acchA hai para bhakti to aisA hai na ki kabhI saMyoga badaleM to vaha calI jAtI hai, para jJAna to niraMtara sAtha meM hI rahatA hai| praznakartA: bhaktimArga meM jokhimadArI kisa para hai? bhagavAna para?
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________________ (19) yathArtha bhaktimArga dAdAzrI : haaN| narasiMha mehatA bhI kahate the ki, 'he bhagavAna, mujhe chudd'vaao|' sabhI bhaktoM ke bhItara ArtatA to hotI hI hai| ArtavANI unhoMne nikAlI thI ki, 'he bhagavAna, du:kha se mujhe chudd'vaaie|' phira bhI vaha bhakti acchI hai, usa para hI sabakucha luTA baitthe| sabase adhika U~cI bhakti kisakI? sacce bhaktoM kii| ve sacce bhagavAna ko nahIM bhajate, parantu parokSa bhagavAna ko bhajate haiM, phira bhI vaha saccI bhakti hai, vaha pratyakSa ko prApta karavAnevAlI hotI hai| parantu saccA bhakta kaba kahalAtA hai? eka bhI saMkalpa-vikalpa nahIM pakar3e tb| vaha kyA kahatA hai ki saMkalpa-vikalpa bhagavAna karate haiM, sabakucha bhagavAna para chor3a detA hai| jaba ki yaha to beTe kI zAdI karavAe taba khuda zAdI karavAtA hai aura janme taba khuda per3e bA~TatA hai aura beTA mara jAe taba bhagavAna ne mArA kahegA! saccA bhakta to sabakucha bhagavAna para chor3a detA hai| vaha kyA kahatA hai, 'bhagavAna, mujhe kyA? bhagavAna terI lAja jA rahI hai|' vaisI bhakti milanI muzkila hai| eka 'rileTiva' ko riyalAija karatA hai aura dUsarA 'riyala' ko riyalAija karatA hai| bhaktoM ko sAkSAtkAra ho, vaha kyA hai? ki bhItara muralIvAle kRSNa dikhate haiM, vaisI siddhi lAe hote haiN| parantu yadi ve mujhe mileM to maiM unase kahU~ ki, 'vaha to dRzya hai aura tU dRSTA hai| tujhe yadi muralIvAle kRSNa dikhate haiM, ve sacce kRSNa nahIM haiN| vaha to dRzya hai aura sacce kRSNa to jo unheM dekhate haiM, ve haiM, vaha tU khuda hI hai| yaha to dRSTi dRzya meM par3I hai| dRSTA meM par3e to kAma ho jaae|' bhaktoM ne bhI isa dhyeya ko prApta nahIM kiyA hotA hai| unheM bhI usakI z2arUrata hai| dhyeya ho to khuda dhyAtA hotA hai, parantu dhyeya kA svarUpa jAnane ke lie guru caahie| narasiMha mehatA ne kyA gAyA hai? 152 AptavANI-4 bhakti : sthUla se sUkSmatama praznakartA : hara eka dharma ke zAstroM meM nAma kA mahatva bahuta batAte haiM, nAma kA japa karanA hotA hai, usakA kyA rahasya hogA? dAdAzrI : vaha saba ekAgratA ke lie hai| 'nAma' sthUla hai, sthUla bhakti hai| phira 'sthApanA', vaha sUkSma bhakti hai, phira 'dravya', vaha sUkSmatara bhakti hai aura aMta meM 'bhAva', vaha sUkSmatama hai| ye cAra prakAra kI bhaktiyA~ haiN| to sirpha mahAvIra, mahAvIra bolate hoM, to bhI sthUla bhakti huI aura yadi sthApanA yAnI ki phoTo rakhakara 'mahAvIra, mahAvIra' kareM to sUkSma bhakti kahalAtI hai| yaha merA phoTo rakhakara bhakti kare usakI tulanA meM, maiM khuda hAjira hoU~ aura merI hAjirI meM bhakti kare to vaha sUkSmatara bhakti kahalAtI hai| aura phira merI AjJA hI pAle to vaha sUkSmatama bhakti kahalAtI hai| merA kahanA hai, hamArI AjJA, usake bhAva meM A jAe to vaha bhAvabhakti ho gii| vaha turanta phala denevAlI hai| bAkI tInoM prakAra kI bhakti bahuta hI phala denevAlI hai| aura sirpha 'yaha' hI riyalI keza hai, isalie to hama kahate haiM ki, 'disa ija da keza baiMka ina da varlDa (isa duniyA meM sirpha yahI naqada baiMka hai)|' ise keza baiMka kisalie kahate haiM ki abhI 'yahA~' para uccatama bhAvabhakti hotI hai| nAmabhakti bhI galata nahIM hai| nAma kA vaisA niyama nahIM hai| nAma meM to 'rAma' bole to bhI calegA aura koI 'nIma' bolatA rahe to bhI clegaa| sirpha bolanA caahie| jo boleM usakA bhItara upayoga rahanA cAhie, tAki aura kahIM para upayoga nahIM jaae| AtmA ko eka ghar3Ibhara bhI akelA chor3A jAe aisA nahIM hai, isalie kucha na kucha usake lie upayoga rakhanA caahie| arthAt nAmasmaraNa karate haiM, vaha kucha galata nahIM hai| koI vastu galata hotI hI nahIM isa jagat meN| lekina nAma, sthApanA aura dravya, ve tInoM hI vyavahAra haiM aura sirpha bhAva hI nizcaya hai| vyavahAra meM to anaMta janmoM se yahI kA yahI kiyA hai aura bhaTakate hI rahe haiN| AcArya hue, sAdhu hue, sAdhvIjI hue, aise hI bhaTakate rahe haiM, mArga nahIM milaa| 'jahA~ lagI AtmA tatva cihnayo nahIM, tyahA~ lagI sAdhanA sarva jhuutthii|' (ki jaba taka AtmAtatva prApta nahIM kiyA taba taka sArI sAdhanA jhUThI hai|)
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________________ (19) yathArtha bhaktimArga 153 154 AptavANI-4 svarUpa kA bhAna karavAtI hai, 'maiM caMdUlAla hU~, maiM lohe kA bar3A vyApArI hU~', vaisA bhAna karavAtI hai| buddhi parAbhakti nahIM hone detii| yahA~ to jJAna dene ke bAda phira parAbhakti hI hotI hai| parAbhakti to kise kahate haiM ki jo AtmA ke lie kI jAe, zuddhAtmA ke lie, Atmahetu ke lie kI jAe, vh| Atmahetu ke lie jAge-vaha nIMda kahalAtI hai, Atmahetu ke lie khAe-vaha upavAsa aura Atmahetu ke lie bhakti kare vaha parAbhakti hai| mokSa : jJAna se yA bhakti se? praznakartA : bhaktimArga se mokSa hai yA jJAnamArga se mokSa hai? dAdAzrI : bhaktimArga se Apa kyA samajhe? jJAnamArga zurU hone ke bAda bhakti AtI hai| koI sTezana kA rAstA dikhAe. phira Apa caloge na? rAste kA jJAna hone ke bAda usa rAste para calanA, vaha bhakti hai| bhakti zabda kA vAstavika artha kyA hai? usa zabda ke aMdara Azraya samA jAtA hai| ina sabhI ko jJAna diyA hai, ve sabhI bhaktimArga meM bhI haiN| jisakA Azraya liyA usakI bhakti karanI hai| praznakartA : arthAt bhaktimArga bhI akramamArga meM hai? dAdAzrI : 'yaha' parAbhakti hai| akramamArga meM AtmA prApta kara lene ke bAda jo bhakti karate haiM, ve khuda apane Apa kI hI bhakti karate haiN| ye mAlA banAte haiM, ve bhI khuda kI hI bhakti karate haiM, phira bhale hI mAlA hameM car3hAe~! 'jJAnI puruSa' kI bhakti khuda ke AtmA kI hI bhakti hai| jaba taka ApakA AtmA saMpUrNa vyakta nahIM huA, taba taka 'jJAnI paruSa' hI ApakA AtmA haiN| 'jJAnI puruSa' zalya rahita hote haiN| khuda prasannacitta hone ke kAraNa, sAmanevAle ko bhI una prasannacitta ke darzana karane se hI AnaMda prakaTa hotA hai| 'jJAnI' ke darzana mAtra se aneka janmoM ke pApa bhasmIbhUta ho jAte haiM! parAbhakti : aparAbhakti pUrA jagat bhakti DhUMDha rahA hai, vaha aparAbhakti hai| jisa bhakti meM thor3A-sA bhI buddhi kA praveza nahIM ho, vaha mokSa kI bhakti kahalAtI hai| bhakti mokSa kI honI caahie| buddhi kA praveza ho, to vaha aparAbhakti hotI hai| buddhi bAhara nikala gaI, to parAbhakti hai| yahA~' para pUre dina jo calatI hai vaha parAbhakti hai| parAbhakti kA phala mokSa hai| apanA to yaha mokSamArga hai| jahA~ mokSamArga nahIM hai, vahA~ saMsAra mArga hai| jisa bhakti meM baddhi AtI hai, taba vaha imozanala rakhatI hai| maiM 'pana kA bhAna karavAtI hai, 'rileTiva'
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________________ 156 AptavANI-4 hI aisA kaha sakate haiN| hara eka jIva anAdi se hai, parantu 'jJAnI' mile aura jJAna ho usake bAda hI sAdi-sAMta (sa-Adi, sa-aMta) meM AtA (20) guru aura jJAnI yathArtha guru praznakartA : mere pahale ke guru haiM, to yahA~ Apako guru banA sakatA praznakartA : to phira mokSa ke mArga meM guru kI z2arUrata hai kyA? dAdAzrI : hA~, kucha kahate haiM na ki guru kI z2arUrata nahIM hai! yaha to lAiTa ko bujhA dene jaisI bAta hai| guru to prakAza hai, parantu guru to pahacAna meM Ane cAhie na? ye to a~dhere ko prakAza mAnate haiM to kisa taraha kAma ho? 'guru' to, ye saba AcArya-mahArAja haiM na, ve guru kahalAte haiN| 'sadguru', kauna? ki jinheM sat prApta huA hai ve| jinheM sat prApta huA ho, ve to hamane ulTA kiyA ho phira bhI cir3hate nahIM haiM aura 'jJAnI puruSa' to sva-puruSArtha sahita hote haiN| 'jJAnI puruSa' to varlDa ke Azcarya kahalAte dAdAzrI : do guru to cAhie hii| saMsAra ke guru zubhAzubha kA sikhalAte haiN| aura yahA~ to zubhAzubha se chur3avAte haiN| vAstava meM ye gurupada hI nahIM hai| yahA~ koI bAdhaka vastu nahIM hotI, sAdhaka vastu hI hotI hai| saMsAra ke guru to cAhie hii| unake AzIrvAda hoM to bhautika sukhoM ke lie bahuta kAma aaegaa| aura yaha to alaukika vastu hai! saMsArI guru laukika guru kahalAte haiN| praznakartA : laukika guru matalaba kyA? praznakartA : 'jJAnI' ko pahacAneM kisa taraha? dAdAzrI : acchA sikhalAe~ ve laukika guru| saMsAra kA siMcana isa bhava meM kisa AdhAra para hotA hai? jo yojanA bana cukI hotI hai, usa AdhAra pr| mA~-bApa acche milate haiM, gar3hAI ke lie sAdhana acche milate haiN| saba lekara hI AtA hai| 'jJAnI' kI kRpA to ni:zabda hotI hai, mu~ha para nahIM kahate ki dhanavAna bananA yA putravAna bnnaa| parantu 'jJAnI' kI kRpA se mokSa milatA hai! dAdAzrI : 'jJAnI' se kahanA cAhie ki, 'sAhaba, merA kucha hala lA diijie| taba yadi ve aisA kaheM ki 'itanA karake laao|' taba Apa kahanA ki, 'sAhaba, itane samaya taka kiyA hI hai to bhI aMta nahIM aayaa|' isa choTe bacce ko kahIM bhejeM to kucha karegA kyA? vaha to bar3e ko hI karanA pdd'egaa| vaise hI 'jJAnI puruSa' mileM, to unake pAsa se sIdhA hI mA~ga lenA hotA hai| saMsAra meM se mukti dilavAe~ ve guru sacce! bAkI dUsare saba guru to bahuta se hote haiM, ve kisa kAma ke? vaha to yahA~ se sTezana taka jAnA ho to bhI rAste kA guru banAnA par3atA hai| praznakartA : hara eka ko mokSa milane hI vAlA hai, to phira 'jJAnI' kI kyA jarUrata hai? dAdAzrI : senTrala sTezana AegA hI, parantu sTezana Ane ke bAda laukika guru laukika guru bhale hI jJAnI nahIM haiM, parantu ve 'kauna haiM' vaha mAlUma hai? ve relve ke 'poinTamena' jaise haiN| gADI dillI kI ho use poinTa milavA detA hai aura gAr3I ko dillI kI paTarI para mor3a detA hai| Aja to dillI
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________________ (20) guru aura jJAnI 157 158 AptavANI-4 ke bajAya sUrata kI tarapha mor3ate haiM, usase sabhI gAr3iyA~ Amane-sAmane TakarA gaI! are, 'poinTamena' kI tanakhvAha khAte ho, to itanA to kAma karo! ye to vAda-vivAda meM harAkara guru bana baiThe! vaha guNavAcaka nAma hai yA nAmavAcaka nAma hai? nyAya denA par3egA na isakA? yadi guNavAcaka nAma ho to dUsare prazna khar3e hoNge| aura nAmavAcaka ho to harja nahIM hai! bhagavAna ne to kyA kahA huA hai ki, 'hama pUre jagat ke ziSya haiN|' pUre jagat kA koI guru nahIM bana sktaa| yaha to saba vyApAra lagAkara baiThe haiM, kahIM bhI dharma kI niSThA hI nahIM rhii| yaha to khAna-pAna aura mAna kI hI niSThA hai| yaha hameM kaThora bolanA par3atA hai, vaha kyA hameM acchA lagatA hogA? phira bhI Apa sAvadhAna raho usake lie kahate haiN| satya kauna bolatA hai ki jise kucha bhI nahIM caahie| inameM kucha sacce puruSa hoMge jarUra, para ve bahuta kama, saiMkar3oM meM do-pA~ca pratizata hI mileNge| sIdhA calAnevAle kauna hai ki jo khuda sau pratizata sIdhA calatA ho, vahI dUsaroM ko sIdhA calA skegaa| khuda meM ulTA ho to dUsaroM ko kisa taraha upadeza de sakegA? maiM jisameM sau pratizata karekTa hoU~ usakA Apako upadeza dUM, to hI vacanabala clegaa| _ 'rileTiva' dharma, to saphara ke sAthI jaise ye 'rileTiva' dharma haiM ve saphara ke sAthI jaise haiN| saphara meM acchA vyakti, jarA majabUta vyakti sAtha meM hoM to rAste meM acchA rahatA hai aura luTere jaisA koI mila jAe to lUTa legaa| saphara ke sAthI arthAt jisakA biginiMga hotA hai aura jisakA enDa hotA hai| jisakA biginiMga nahIM ho aura aMta bhI nahIM Ae, vaisA sAtha kisa kAma kA? sAtha arthAt kudaratI rUpa se eka vicAravAle ikaTThe ho jAe~, vh| apanA to yaha sAinsa hai| 'phraoNma jIro TU haMDreDa' taka kA hai| yaha to TheTha taka kA hai aura AgepIche ke 'rilezana sahita' hai| dharma to ArapAra le jAe, vaha hotA hai| vaisA to kabhI bhI utpanna hotA hI nahIM na? ho to kAma hI nikala jaae| hAlA~ki kucha nahIM milA ho, usase to isa 'rileTiva' dharma kA sAtha acchaa| vyApAra, dharma meM to zobhA nahIM hI detA pUre jagat kA jo ziSya bane vahI guru banane ke lAyaka hai| eka kSaNabhara bhI 'yaha merA ziSya hai' aisA bhAna nahIM rahatA ho to ziSya bnaao| hamane pA~ca hajAra logoM ko jJAna diyA hai, parantu hameM eka kSaNabhara ke lie bhI 'merA ziSya hai' aisA nahIM lgtaa| ____ bhagavAna ne kahA hai ki sabakucha Ter3hA karoge to calegA, parantu sirpha guru sIdhe bnaanaa| anaMta janmoM se Ter3he guru mile haiM, isalie hI bhaTakA hai| hindustAna deza meM dharma ke sAtha vyApAra le baiThe haiM, vaha ThIka nahIM hai| vyApAra meM dharma honA cAhie, dharma meM vyApAra nahIM krte| bhale hI jJAnI nahIM hoM, parantu unheM dekhakara terA dila TharatA ho to vahA~ baiThanA, parantu dharma ke vyApArI ke pAsa mata par3e rhnaa| aura yadi zuddha vyakti nahIM milate hoM, to bhIma ne kiyA thA vaisA karane jaisA hai| bhIma ko zuddha vyakti nahIM mile the, to unhoMne eka loTA liyA aura raMga diyA aura usa para likhA 'namo neminAthAya' aura usake darzana karate the ! hAlA~ki usameM kisIkA doSa nahIM hai| yaha kAla hI vicitra AyA hai, to isameM aisA hI hotA hai| ve bhI becAre kyA kareM? ve bhI pha~sa gae haiM udhara! praznakartA : Asana para sAdhU baiThe hoM aura jAkara unheM namaskAra kiyA to aisA kahA jAegA ki unheM guru banA diyA? dAdAzrI : nahIM, hameM unheM kahanA cAhie, unake sAtha saudA kara lenA caahie| yaha to sArA vyApAra hai, isalie 'kaoNnTrekTa' karanA cAhie ki Aja se mere hRdaya meM ApakA guru kI taraha sthApana kara rahA huuN| sthApana karane ke bAda maMDAna kiyA kahA jAtA hai phira sthApana karane ke bAda khaMDana karanA to bar3A gunAha hai, nahIM to sthApana karanA hI nhiiN| bhagavAna kI bhASA aisI hai ki sthApana karanA nahIM aura sthApana karo to khaMDana karanA nhiiN| pUrI duniyA meM guru banAnA yadi kisIko AyA ho to vaha ina khojA logoM ko! Apake guru ne yadi vivAha kara liyA ho. are. vivAha nahIM kiyA ho parantu kisIko cher3a bhI diyA ho to vahA~ Apa saba unheM mArane
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________________ (20) guru aura jJAnI 159 160 AptavANI-4 lagoge aura ina khojA logoM ke guru ne to vivAha kiyA eka yUropiyana leDI se! aura una sabhI logoM ne utsava manAyA ki apane guru eka yUropiyana leDI se vivAha kara rahe haiN| unheM ziSya kahate haiN| guru kI kamiyA~ nahIM nikAlanI caahie| saba kI kamiyA~ nikAlanA parantu guru kI kamiyA~ nahIM nikAlate, nahIM to guru banAnA hI nhiiN| jisakI dharma saMbaMdhI bhUla miTe, vaha to bhagavAna kahalAtA hai| kisIkI bhUla nahIM nikAlanI cAhie, vaha to bahuta bar3I jokhimadArI hai| isalie sahajAnaMda svAmI ne kyA khoja kI vaha jAnate ho? guru pA~cavI ghAtI hai| yadi thor3A bhI unakA ulTA dekha liyA to mAre jaaoge| aura ulTA dikhe to bhI 'nahIM, vaisA nahIM hai', aisA karake A~kheM baMda kara denaa| kyoMki, nahIM to isase jIva adhogati meM cale jAe~ge saare| sirpha jo sa~bhalakara rahe haiM to ve AgAkhAna (eka saMpradAya) ke| dekho, vahA~ kabhI bhI AvAja uThAI hai? aura apane loga, yadi unake ziSya hoM to sabhI prakAra se use nyAya meM tola dete| maiM guru kI ArAdhanA karane ko nahIM kahatA hU~, parantu unakI virAdhanA nahIM krnaa| aura yadi ArAdhanA kareM to kAma hI ho jAe, parantu ArAdhanA karane kI itanI adhika zakti logoM meM nahIM hotI hai| maiM kyA kahatA hU~ ki pAgala guru banAo, bilkula pAgala ko banAo, parantu pUrI z2indagI unake prati sinsiyara raho to ApakA kalyANa ho jaaegaa| bilkula pAgala guru ke prati sinsiyara rahane se Apake sabhI kaSAya khatma ho jAe~ge! parantu itanA samajha meM AnA cAhie na! vahA~ taka mati pahu~canI cAhie na! isalie to Apake lie patthara ke deva rakhe haiM ki yaha prajA aisI hai isalie patthara ke rakho, tAki kamiyA~ to nahIM nikaaleN| taba kahe, 'nahIM, patthara meM bhI kamI nikAlate haiM ki 'yaha zrRMgAra ThIka nahIM hai!' yaha prajA to bahuta vicArazIla! bahuta vicArazIla hai, ve guru ke doSa nikAleM aise haiN| khuda ke doSa nikAlanA to kahA~ rahA, parantu guru kA bhI doSa nikAlate haiM! utanI adhika to unakI elarTanesa!! hama gAranTI dete haiM ki koI bhI pAgala guru banAo aura yadi pUrI z2indagI use nibhAoge to mokSa tIna janmoM meM ho jAegA, aisA hai| lekina guru jIvita hone caahie| isalie to ina logoM ko vaha nahIM pusAyA aura mUrtiyA~ rakhI gii| praznakartA : guru jo AjJA kareM, usa AjJA meM hI rahanA cAhie na? dAdAzrI : hA~, pAgalapanavAlI AjJA kareM to bhI AjJA meM hI rahanA caahie| Apako yadi mokSa meM jAnA ho, to guru banAo to guru ke prati aMta taka sinsiyara rho| ziSya kise kahate haiM ki guru ke sukha meM khuda kA sukha maane| guru ko kisase AnaMda hotA hai, vaha dekhe| aura yadi pUrI z2indagI guru ko nibhAe to sabhI kaSAya khatma ho jaaeNge| Apake kaSAya dhone kA sAdhana pAgala guru haiM, nahIM to phira 'jJAnI puruSa' use dho deNge| bIcavAle to saba bhaTakA deNge| 'mukta puruSa' kI AjJAvaza rahanA, vaha dharma kahalAtA hai| jinheM ekabAra hamane guru kI taraha sthApana karake namaskAra kiyA ho, phira vaise koI bhI guru hoM, cakrama hoM yA pAgala hoM, para ekabAra namaskAra karane ke bAda unakI niMdA meM nahIM par3anA caahie| guru kI kArastAnI bAhara nikale taba hama niMdA kareM, vaisA nahIM honA caahie| guru ulTA kare to vaha jokhimadArI guru kI hai, dUsare kisIkI nahIM hai| ye khojA saMpradAya ke loga guru kI niMdA nahIM krte| unakI bAta kitanI samajhadArIvAlI hai ! unake isa samajhadArI ke guNa ko svIkAra karanA caahie| vItarAga kyA kahate haiM ki kisI bhI manuSya kA samajhadArIvAlA guNa ho to use svIkAranA caahie| jaba ki hindu to bahuta Devalapa jAti hai isalie turanta hI niMdA karatI hai ki aisA kaise ho sakatA hai? to ye loga garu ke bhI nyAyadhIza! niMdA meM par3ate haiM, usa buddhi ko haTA na yahA~ se| ina logoM ko pUrvavirAdhaka jIva kisalie kahA hai ki kacarA raha gayA thA, tabhI isa kAla meM AyA hai| cauthe Are (kAlacakra kA bArahavA~ hissA) vAle to satyuga, tretA aura dvApara ke jo 'rabiza maTiriyalsa' haiM, vahI Aja ke jIva haiM. ve virAdhanAvAle hI hote haiN| jo khAne ko dete haiM, unhIM kI virAdhanA karate haiM, guru sikhalAe~ to unakI virAdhanA karate haiN| mA~-bApa khAne kA dete haiM. phira bhI unake
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________________ (20) guru aura jJAnI 162 AptavANI-4 bAre meM ulTA bolate haiN| ve par3osI ko aisA kahate haiM ki 'mere pApA, mammI se lar3a rahe the, nAlAyaka haiM!' taba phira usa lar3ake ko par3osI ukasAte haiN| khuda apane hI ghara kI bAta bAhara nikAla detA hai! yAnI sinsiyAriTI rahI hI nahIM isa kAla meN| 'jJAnI puruSa' kA siddhAMta kaisA! jinheM pUjya mAnA ho phira ve cAhe jitanA kharAba kareM, parantu ta terI dRSTi mata bdlnaa| merA to pahale se hI siddhAMta hai ki maiMne jisa paudhe ko pAnI pilAkara bar3A kiyA ho to vahA~ se mujhe relve lAina bhI le jAnI ho to usake pAsa se mor3akara le jAU~, parantu merA ugAyA huA paudhA nahIM ukhA.! siddhAMta honA caahie| ekabAra sthApita karane ke bAda phira khaMDana kabhI bhI nahIM krte| khaMDana kI bAta to kahA~ rahI, parantu Apa mile ho taba se Apake lie jo abhiprAya banAyA hai, eka sekanDa ke lie bhI merA vaha abhiprAya badalatA nahIM! Aja maiM nakkI karU~ ki yaha manuSya acchA hai, phira usa AdamI ne merI jeba meM se paise le lie hoM, koI isa bAta ko siddha kara detA ho ki maiMne khuda use corI karate hue dekhA hai, phira bhI maiM kahU~ ki yaha cora nahIM hai| kyoMki hamArI samajha alaga hai| vaha vyakti hamezA ke lie kaisA hai, vaisA hamane dekha liyA hai, phira saMyogavaza vaha vyakti cAhe jo kare, usakI hama noMdha (atyaMta rAga athavA dveSa sahita lambe samaya taka yAda rakhanA, noTa karanA) nahIM krte| pUrA jagat saMyogavaza kI noMdha karatA hai| mUlataH pUrvavirAdhaka jIva haiM isalie virAdhanA kA unheM vicAra AtA hI hai| usameM hama unakA doSa nahIM maante| hama kyA kahate haiM ki virAdhanA kA vicAra to Apako AegA hI, parantu virAdhanA meM hameM ekAkAra nahIM ho jAnA cAhie, usa rUpa nahIM ho jAnA caahie| acche rahate haiM yA phira ulTe rAste le jAnevAle saMyoga nahIM mile isalie acche rahe haiM! hama sabakA dhyeya 'zuddhAtmA' aura mokSa, tAki dUsarA kucha chue hI nhiiN| para-pariNati chue hI nhiiN| abhI Apa pUrA dina para-pariNati meM rahate ho aura mokSa DhUMDha rahe ho? mokSa meM jAnA ho to vahI eka dhyeya caahie| dharma kA marma dharma to bAhara bhI hai| itane sAre loga dharma meM jAte haiM, maMdira meM jAte haiM, upAzraya meM jAte haiM, vahA~ saba jagaha dharma hai, parantu marma nahIM rahA, vahA~ marma jaisA kucha bhI nahIM miltaa| itanA bar3A hAphUz2a kA Ama ho, parantu kATeM taba aMdara guThalI aura chilake do hI nikaleM, taba usameM kyA marma rahA? vaisA dharma raha gayA hai, parantu dharma kA marma nahIM rhaa| dharma arthAt saccI vastu kI khoja Aropita bhAva se karanI, vh| aura 'yaha' to 'sAinsa' hai! dharma to vaha ki AdhyAtmika ke sAdhana milavA de| ....vaisA bhAna, vaha bhI bar3I jAgRti guru kI hI virAdhanA yAni ki jisake dvArA kucha prApta kiyA thA, eka AnA yA do AnA, usakI khuda virAdhanA kare arthAt jisase sthApana honevAlA thA usakA hI khaMDana kare, ve pUrvavirAdhaka jiiv| isa kAla meM pUrvavirAdhaka jIva haiM, maiM bhI unameM se thaa| mujhe yaha jJAna haA thA, vaha 'maiM pUrvavirAdhaka hU~' vaisA bhAna hone ke bAda yaha jJAna huA thaa| ___guru ko pahacAnanA..... praznakartA : nAsamajhI meM guru ko pahacAne binA guru banA lene ke bAda samajha meM AyA ki ye guru ThIka nahIM haiM, to kyA kareM? dAdAzrI : guru ko pahacAnanA nahIM hotA hai, guru ke prati to hameM bhAva hotA hai, isalie unheM guru banA dete haiN| guru ko pahacAnanA to kisIko AtA hI nhiiN| vaisI jauharIpana hI kahA~ hai? ye to kA~ca le Ae~ vaise loga haiN| inheM hIre kI parakha hai, parantu manuSya kI parakha kahA~ se lAe~? yaha kyA hara eka bhUla miTAne ke bAda hI mokSa meM jAyA jA skegaa| bhUla miTAe bagaira mokSa meM nahIM jAyA jA skegaa| cAhe jaise saMyoga mileM phira bhI sthiratA nahIM TUTe, dhyeya nahIM badale, use dharma prApta kiyA kahA jaaegaa| yaha to loga AbarU rakhane ke lie
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________________ (20) guru aura jJAnI 163 (21) tapazcaryA kA hetu hotA hai ki bhAva AtA hai aura guru banA dete haiM, 'sAhaba, kala se Apa mere guru|' praznakartA : hA~, to unheM guru banAyA isalie TheTha taka unake sAtha meM hI rahanA cAhie? dAdAzrI : guru banAne ke bAda unake udayakarma badaleM aura ve kucha pAgala ho jAe~ to bhI unakA gurupada kyA calA gayA? ve udayakarma ke AdhAra para pAgalapana karate haiM, parantu jo ziSya unakA gurupada sa~bhAlakara rakheM, use bhagavAna ne ArAdhaka pada mAnA hai| jinakI ArAdhanA kI unakI virAdhanA nahIM karanI caahie| praznakartA : aisA bhI kahate haiM na ki guru ke binA jJAna kisa taraha milegA? dAdAzrI : guru to rAstA dikhAte haiM, mArga dikhAte haiM aura 'jJAnI puruSa' jJAna dete haiN| 'jJAnI puruSa' arthAt jinheM jAnane ko kucha bhI bAkI nahIM rahA, khuda tadsvarUpa meM baiThe haiN| arthAt 'jJAnI puruSa' Apako sabakucha de dete haiM aura guru to saMsAra meM Apako rAstA dikhAte haiM, unake kahe anusAra kareM to saMsAra meM sukhI ho jAte haiN| parantu vahA~ para yaha duHkha, yaha upAdhi (bAhara se AnevAle duHkha) jAtI nahIM na? yaha upAdhi to hamezA ke lie cipaTI huI hI rahatI hai| ye saba loga guru ko bhajate haiM, taba yadi bahuta huA to sAMsArika sukha thor3A-bahuta milatA hai, parantu upAdhi nahIM jaatii| Adhi, vyAdhi aura upAdhi meM samAdhi dilavAe~ ve 'jJAnI puruss'| tapa, tyAga aura upavAsa praznakartA : vrata, tapa, niyama z2arUrI haiM yA gairaz2arUrI haiM? dAdAzrI : aisA hai, ye kemisTa ke yahA~ jitanI davAiyA~ haiM ve sabhI jarUrI haiM, para vaha logoM ke lie jarUrI haiM, Apako to jo davAiyA~ jarUrI haiM utanI hI botaleM Apako le jAnI haiN| vaise hI vrata, tapa, niyama, ina sabhI kI jarUrata hai| isa jagat meM kucha bhI galata nahIM hai| corI karatA hai vaha galata nahIM hai, ye inkama Taiksa vasUlate haiM vaha bhI galata nahIM hai| apanI jeba kaTa jAtI hai vaha to kudarata kA Taiksa hai! usa Taiksa kI vasUlI karanevAle cora loga hI to haiM ! usameM kucha galata hai hI nhiiN| japa, tapa kucha bhI galata nahIM hai| parantu hara eka kI dRSTi se, hara eka kI apekSA se satya hai| praznakartA : to japa-tapa karanA z2arUrI hai yA nahIM? dAdAzrI : nahIM, DragisTa ke vahA~ sabhI davAIyA~ hotI haiM to kyA sArI davAIyA~ hameM khAne kI z2arUrata hai? Apako jitanA darda ho utanI hI davAI. ekAdha-do botaleM lenI hotI haiN| sabhI botaleM le jAe~ to mara jAe~ge ulTA! japa-tapa kA zauqa ho to vaha krnaa| praznakartA : japa-tapa kA zauqa hotA hai? dAdAzrI : zauqa ke binA to koI karatA hogA? aisA hai, yaha striyoM kA zauqa, zarAba kA zauqa, bIr3I kA zauqa, ve sabhI zauqa azubha zauqa kahalAte haiN| aura ye japa-tapa ve zubha ke zauqa haiN| hamezA hI roja-roz2a
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________________ (21) tapazcaryA kA hetu 166 AptavANI-4 patA cala jAtA hai ki abhI rAzana ke lie gae haiM, cAvala lAe~ge, cInI laaeNge| dekho puNyazAlI (!) loga ye! are! bar3e bAraha-bAraha maMjila ke makAna banAe phira bhI unake puNya kitane kacce par3a jAte haiM? 'jJAnI' ko tyAgAtyAga? vItarAga mArga ke manuSya kA jIvana upayogamaya honA caahie| vaha upayoga kaisA hotA hai ki azubha hotA ho usameM se zubha ko grahaNa karate haiN| karanA par3e vaha saba zauqa kahalAtA hai| praznakartA : japa-tapa se karma baMdhate haiM? dAdAzrI : usase karma hI baMdhate haiM na! hara eka cIz2a se karma hI baMdhate haiN| rAta ko so jAo to bhI karma baMdhate haiN| aura japa-tapa karate haiM usase to bahuta karma baMdhate haiN| parantu ve puNya ke karma baMdhate haiM, usase agale janma meM bhautika sukha milate haiN| yaha pUrA vItarAga mArga lAbhAlAbha kA mArga hai| dharma meM pA~ca AnA bhI jAne mata denaa| upavAsa kare to kahatA phiratA hai ki, 'do upavAsa haiM aura tIna upavAsa haiN|' aura beTA Ae usake sAtha kalaha karatA hai, 'kyoM Aja subaha dukAna meM nahIM gayA?' are, dukAna kA tujhe kyA karanA hai? tU apanA upavAsa kara n| beTA kahegA ki, 'z2arA Aja mujhase jAyA nahIM jA skaa|' to pitA kalaha karatA hai| isa tarapha mA~jI isa rUma meM upavAsa meM baiThI hoM aura dUsare rUma meM pyAle bajane lageM to 'yaha kyA huA? kyA phUTA?' karatI haiN| mA~jI, ApakA AtmA phUTa gayA! eka pyAlA phUTA to vahA~ para citta calA jAtA hai| ye saba nirA nukasAna hI uThAte haiN| prApta tapa aisA hai, isa kAla meM jIvoM ko jAna-bUjhakara tapa nahIM karane haiM aura anajAne meM jo tapa A jAe~, apane Apa A paDeM, to vaise tapa karane ko kahA hai| kyoMki isa dUdhamakAla meM eka to manuSya mUlataH tapA huA hI hotA hai, phira ghara meM ho, beDarUma meM ho yA upAzraya meM ho| para hotA hai tapA huA hii| tape hue ko tapAkara kyA kAma hai? sira kaTavAkara pagar3I pahanane jaisI bAta hai yh| pyAlA phUTe taba tapa karanA hai| beTA dukAna para nahIM gayA, taba tapa karanA hai| pratikUlatA meM jaba hamArI prakRti uchale taba bhItara ghamAsAna maca jAtA hai, usa samaya tapa karanA hai| isa kAla meM A cuke tapa karane haiN| satyuga meM to seTha ko parI z2indagIbhara patA bhI nahIM calatA thA ki 'ghara meM cAvala kahA~ se Ate haiM aura kitane ke Ate haiM?' apane Apa AyA hI karatA thA! aura Aja to ghara ke sAre hI logoM ko praznakartA : 'jJAnI' ko 'tyAgAtyAga' saMbhava nahIM hotA, vaha smjhaaie| dAdAzrI : yAnI kyA ki ye yahA~ para bhojana kI thAlI AI ho aura usameM kar3hI khArI AI to 'jJAnI' usakA nibaTArA kara dete haiN| aura kar3hI bahuta acchI AI, svAdiSTa AI to bhI usakA nibaTArA kara dete haiN| vahA~ para 'yaha maiMne tyAga diyA hai' aisA nahIM khte| tyAga kahA arthAt tiraskAra kahalAtA hai aura atyAga vaha rAga hai| 'jJAnI' ko rAga yA dveSa kucha bhI nahIM hotA, isalie 'jJAnI' ko tyAgAtyAga saMbhava nahIM hotA, jo AyA vaha vItarAga bhAva se svIkAra kara lete haiM aura usakA nibaTArA kara dete haiN| hameM to nikAla karake hala lAnA hai| bhagavAna ne, ye loga jo tyAga karate haiM, use tyAga nahIM kahA hai| bhagavAna ne vastu kI mUrchA ke tyAga ko tyAga kahA hai| ina 'dAdA' ke pAsa cIjeM sArI hI haiN| phalAnA hai, vyApAra hai, unake nAma se vyApAra calatA hai, unake nAma ke ceka calate haiN| 'dAdA' ne kucha bhI tyAga nahIM diyA hai| parantu nahIM, unheM mUrchA kisI bhI prakAra kI nahIM hai, isalie unakA sarvasva tyAga hai| aura sAdhu mahArAja kahate haiM na ki, 'merA janmasthala isa gA~va meM hai', vaisA nahIM bola skte| tyAgI haiM phira bhI yaha sArA aMdara bharA huA hotA hai, vaha mUrchA TUTI nahIM hai| aura hama jo kahate haiM usameM kucha bhI tyAga karane jaisA nahIM hai| kisakA tyAga karane jaisA nahIM hai? vastu kA tyAga nahIM karanA hai, mUrchA kA tyAga karanA hai| mUrchA kise kahate haiM? mohanIya
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________________ (21) tapazcaryA kA hetu 167 168 AptavANI-4 karma ko| logoM ne vastue~ bahuta tyAga dI haiM, parantu vastu to pUrI khar3I hI rahI hai| kyoMki vastu kI mUrchA nahIM gii| svarUpajJAna kI prApti ke bAda Apako mUrchA nahIM rahatI, kyoMki Apa zuddhAtmA hae ho| zaddhAtmA ho gae isalie sarva mUrchA gii| Apake mohanIya karma kA saMpUrNa nAza ho gayA hai, nahIM to zuddhAtmA kA lakSya baiThatA nhiiN| mohanIya karma kA chIMTA bhI ho, taba taka zuddhAtmA kA lakSya nahIM baiThatA hai| zuddhAtmA kA lakSya praznakartA : dAdA, zuddhAtmA kA lakSya baiThe yAnI vaha anubhava meM Ae taba lakSya baiThA kahalAegA? dAdAzrI : rAta ko Apa so gae hoM aura jAgo, taba sabase pahale apane Apa kyA lakSya meM AtA hai Apako? praznakartA : 'maiM zuddhAtmA hU~' vahI AtA hai| dAdAzrI : apane Apa 'maiM zuddhAtmA hU~' aisA Ae to lakSya baiTha gayA hai aisA smjhnaa| use yAda nahIM karanA pddtaa| yAda kareM to vaha to yAdadAzta nahIM ho to yAda nahIM bhI aae| lakSya, vahI jAgRti hai| aura hama logoM ko to anubhava bhI hai| anubhava, lakSya, pratIti - ye tInoM hI hameM haiN| AtmA kA anubhava ho jAe, usake bAda hI samabhAva se kriyA hotI hai, pravartana hotA hai| ve sabhI karmendriyA~ aura gyArahavA~ mana, unheM eka dina khurAka nahIM denI hai, kAna se sunA to jAegA para hameM sunane nahIM jAnA hai, A~kha se dikhegA, para hameM uThakara dekhane nahIM jAnA hai| pUre dina kucha bhI nahIM karanA hai, mana ko bilkula khurAka nahIM denI hai| praznakartA : hila-Dula sakate haiM? dAdAzrI : nahIM, kucha bhI nahIM kara skte| praznakartA : so sakate haiM? dAdAzrI : leTa sakate haiN| praznakartA : nIMda Ae to? dAdAzrI : to vApisa baiTha jaanaa| caubIsa ghaMTe niraMtara jAgRti meM nikAlane haiN| aisI eka hI gyArasa karo to AtmA judA hI par3a jaaegaa| praznakartA : isakA pAlana karanA kaThina hai| dAdAzrI : Apa nizcaya karoge to usakA pAlana hogA hii| ApakA nizcaya aura hamArA vacanabala ho to vaha pAlA hI jA sakegA! praznakartA: upavAsa karanA ho to ApakI AjJA lekara karanA cAhie kyA? dAdAzrI : hama kisIko aisI AjJA nahIM dete haiM ki tU upavAsa kr| parantu Apako upavAsa karanA ho to usakA nizcaya karake hamAre pAsa se AjJA le jaanaa| AjJA se, vacanabala se ApakA kAma pUrA hotA hai| praznakartA : kabhI 'dAdA' yahA~ muMbaI meM upasthita nahIM hoM aura upavAsa karane kI icchA ho to Apake citrapaTa ke pAsa se AjJA lI jA sakatI hai? 'dAdAI' gyArasa yaha gyArasa karate haiM, vaha bhI sAinTiphika hai| ye 'dAdA' kI gyArasa z2indagI meM eka bAra kare to usakA kalyANa ho jAe aisA hai, eka bAra 'dAdA' ke nAma para honA caahie| praznakartA : dAdA kI gyArasa kisa taraha karanI cAhie? dAdAzrI : pA~ca karmendriyA~, pA~ca jJAnendriyA~ aura gyArahavA~ mana, unheM nirAhArI rkheN| A~kha, kAna, muMha, sparza ve jJAnendriyA~ aura hAtha-paira, saMDAsa dAdAzrI : hA~, AjJA lekara karo to harja nahIM hai| Apa bulAo to upasthita ho jAU~ aisA huuN| para Apako bulAnA nahIM AtA hai na?
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________________ (21) tapazcaryA kA hetu 169 170 AptavANI-4 vibhAga saca bacA hai, dUsarA sabhI dhvasta ho gayA hai| praznakartA : AyaMbila meM ye jo vidhiyA~ karate haiM, mAlAe~ pherate haiM, vaha saba ThIka hai? praznakartA : pA~ca karmendriyoM, pA~ca jJAnendriyoM kA to samajha meM AyA para mana kA kyA dAdA? vaha to bhramaNa karatA hI hai na? dAdAzrI : bhale hI bhramaNa kre| hameM use AhAra nahIM denA hai, use nirAhArI rakhanA hai| phira vaha uchalakUda kare yA baiThA rahe, para hameM use AhAra nahIM denA hai| hAthoM ko AhAra nahIM denA hai. A~khoM ko AhAra nahIM denA hai, usa dina baiThe rahanA hai| phira pairoM ko AhAra nahIM denA hai, pustaka lekara nahIM baiThanA hai aura 'dAdA, dAdA' bolate rahanA hai| vaha bhI mu~ha se nahIM bolanA hai, mana meM 'dAdA' kA smaraNa calatA hI rhe| aise yadi eka gyArasa kareM to ikaTThA phala mila jaaegaa| yaha to gyArasa kare taba bhI mauraiyA ke laDDU, phira ghI kI pariyA~, kar3hI- alaga-alaga prakAra kI sabjiyA~, to balki usa dina adhika khA letA hai| dAdAzrI: AyaMbila kA aura usakA koI lenA-denA nahIM hai| vaha phira alaga cIz2a hai| AyaMbila arthAt kyA ki eka bAra meM eka hI dhAna khAnA aura bhagavAna ke maMtra japate rahanA, vhii| AyaMbila arthAt maMtra nahIM japatA ho aura (eka dhAna) eka hI samaya khAe to bhI vaha AyaMbila kahalAtA hai| vaha to koI bhI kara sakatA hai| eka dhAna khAkara rahe, vaha to zarIra kA bahuta bar3A tapa hai| usase zarIra ke sabhI prakAra ke poijana, sabhI dravya jalakara naSTa ho jAte haiM, vaha sabase acchA hai| yaha to tIrthakara mahArAjoM kI sAinTiphika khoja hai ! isalie jainoM se kahA hai ki Apa itane to bhAgyazAlI ho ki yaha AyaMbila Apake yahA~ bacA hai| parantu abhI taka eka dhAna khAte haiM aura usakA zarIra acchA rahatA hai| AyaMbila se camar3I ke kucha roga miTa jAte haiN| kor3ha ke lie bhI vaha lAbhadAyaka praznakartA : tapa kare, upavAsa kare, AyaMbila kare, usase kyA hotA dAdAzrI : usase zarIra zuddha hotA hai aura mana kI zuddhi hotI hai| jarA vANI bhI acchI hotI hai aura kabhI vANI bigar3a bhI jAtI hai| acchA bhojana karane ke bAda bolane kA kahe to bolegA nhiiN| aura bhUkhe peTa ho to jalana nikAlatA hai! AyaMbila : eka sAinTiphika prayoga praznakartA : yaha AyaMbila jo kiyA jAtA hai, vaha bhagavAna mahAvIra ke samaya se hai yA kaba se hai? dAdAzrI : AyaMbila to sAinsa hai| vaha bhagavAna RSabhadeva ke samaya se hai| vaha Atmadharma ke hetu ke lie nahIM hai, zarIradharma ke hetu ke lie hai| vaha zarIra ko acchA rakhane ke lie hai| jisake zarIra meM jaharIle dravya hoM yA phira zarIra svastha nahIM ho, vaha AyaMbila kre| vaha paddhatipUrvaka honA caahie| eka hI vastu, eka hI dhAna khAte haiM, dUsarA dhAna nahIM khaate| AyaMbila bahuta hI saca kahA hai| tIrthaMkara bhagavAna ke mahala meM 'yaha' pUrA praznakartA : bahuta loga AyaMbila varSoM taka karate haiM, usase kyA phAyadA hotA hai? dAdAzrI : AyaMbila kucha samaya taka kareM to hI phAyadA hotA hai, bahuta lambe kAla taka kareM to phira nukasAna karatA hai| zarIra meM dasare dravya, viTAminoM kI kamI ho jAtI hai| sabakucha normeliTI meM caahie| upavAsa meM upayoga praznakartA : upavAsa tIna dina, nau dina, eka mahInA, tIna mahInoM ke kie jAte haiM, vaha kyA hai? dAdAzrI : upavAsa acchI vastu hai, para upavAsa to, jisane bahuta pakavAna khAe hoM, usake lie upavAsa hotA hai| ye becAre kaMTrola kA anAja khAkara par3e rahate haiM, unake lie kaisA upavAsa? upavAsa karane ko galata
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________________ (21) tapazcaryA kA hetu 171 172 AptavANI-4 dAdAzrI : upayoga kahIM bhI rahA hI nahIM hai| isalie upayoga kI koI bAta nahIM krtaa| upayoga kA upayoga baMda ho gayA hai isalie use rakha diyA hai eka or| bAqI, upayoga ko samajhAe~ to vaha AsAna nahIM nahIM kahA hai bhagavAna ne| bhagavAna ne kahA hai ki, 'upavAsa karanA, parantu upavAsa ke sAra ke rUpa meM AtmA prApta nahIM ho to upavAsa gae bekaar|' upavAsa ke sAra ke rUpa meM AtmA nahIM milA, AtmA kA kucha samakita jaisA nahIM huA to upavAsa kA phala saMsAraphala milegA, usakA puNya milegaa| yaha to anaMta janmoM se upavAsa karatA hai, parantu bhagavAna ne use binA samajhe bhUkhoM maranA kahA hai| kyoMki binA upayoga se kie gae sAre upavAsa bekAra gae haiM !! yaha to tapavAle ke sAtha baiTheM to hamalogoM ko bhI tapa karanA acchA lagegA hii| AtmA to AhArI hai hI nahIM, yaha deha hI AhArI hai| yaha to eka bAra AtmA jAnane ke bAda hI spaSTa hotA hai| nahIM to spaSTa hotA hI nhiiN| bhagavAna ne kahA hai ki upayogapUrvaka eka upavAsa hogA to kAma ho jaaegaa| yaha Apako svarUpajJAna prApta haA hai, isalie Apase to zuddhAtmA ke upayogapUrvaka upavAsa hogA, zuddha upayogapUrvaka hogaa| Apake pAsa to 'vastu' hAtha meM A gaI hai, pataMga kI Dora Apake hAtha meM hai| aba use gotA nahIM khAne denA, vaha Apake hAtha meM hai| eka upavAsa ho sake to eka karake to dekho| phira usakA 'TesTa' to dekho! ravivAra kA dina ho, kahIM bhI jAnA nahIM ho, taba krnaa| usameM soe rahanA nahIM hotaa| sone se upayoga nahIM rahatA na? aura yaha upavAsa to zuddha upayogapUrvaka karanA hai| usameM pUrA dina ye kavirAja ke pada par3ho to bAhara bhI zuddha aura aMdara bhI zuddha rahatA hai, nahIM to hamArI pA~ca AjJA kA avalaMbana lenA caahie| usa taraha se pUrA dina zuddha upayoga meM nikAla do to Apako upavAsa kiyA ho vaisA lagegA bhI nhiiN| bhUkha lagI hai vaisA hotA rahe, to upayoga cUka gae hoM tabhI vaisA hogaa| bhUkha lagI aisA jAneMge z2arUra para vedeMge nhiiN| vedeM to upayoga cUka gae khlaaegaa| aura jAneM to upayogapUrvaka kA khlaaegaa| kucha ko to upavAsa ke dina to bahuta acchA rahatA hai, zAtA vedanIya lagatI hai| yAnI bilIfa para AdhArita hai| praznakartA : 'dAdA', upayoga kahIM bhI rahA nahIM, isalie upayoga kI koI bAta hI nahIM krtaa| praznakartA : hA~, samajhAe to AsAna hai! dAdAzrI : bhagavAna ne kahA hai ki azubha meM se zubha kare to vaha bhI upayogapUrvaka kara aura zuddha meM Ae taba tU zuddha upayoga-yAnI paramAtma svarUpa ho gyaa| yAnI upayoga rakhane ko kahA hai| yoM to sabakucha hotA hai, para usakA artha hI nahIM koii| hAlA~ki usakA phala milegA, kisIkA bekAra nahIM jAnevAlA hai| zuddha upayoga 'hama' eka miniTa bhI nahIM cUke haiM kabhI bhii| kevala-zuddha upayoga hI hotA hai hmaaraa| zubha upayoga to hamAre kAma kA rahA nhiiN| 'zuddha upayogI ne samatAdhArI, jJAna dhyAna manohArI, karma kalaMka ko dUra nivArI, jIva vare shivnaarii|' praznakartA : apane 'svarUpajJAna' prApta kie hue mahAtmA upavAsa kareM to? dAdAzrI : bahuta phAyadA hogaa| eka upavAsa se pUre varSa kA phala milegA, para bahuta jAgRti rakhanI par3atI hai| ___ bhagavAna ne kahA hai ki eka upavAsa zuddha upayogapUrvaka ho to pUre varSa kA zuddha upayoga eka sAtha ho jAtA hai| upavAsa ke lie eka rAta pahale tAlA lagA denA caahie| rAta ko nizcaya karake so jAe~ na ki kala zuddha upayogapUrvaka upavAsa karanA hai| hamArI AjJA le, usake bAda 'maiM zuddhAtmA hU~, maiM zuddhAtmA hU~' ke lakSya meM pUrA dina rahe aura hamArI pA~ca AjJA meM rhe| isa anusAra chattIsa ghaMTe mu~ha para tAlA lagAkara upavAsa kare to pUre varSa use zuddha upayoga prApta hogaa| aura bhagavAna ne kahA hai ki yadi tujhe jJAna nahIM ho aura upavAsa karegA to tujhe bhUkhe rahane kA phala milegA,
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________________ (21) tapazcaryA kA hetu 173 174 AptavANI-4 praznakartA : Avazyaka bhojana nahIM kareM to dharma kA puruSArtha kisa taraha ho sakegA? dAdAzrI : uNodarI arthAt bhUkha lage to khAnA, para bhUkhe peTa dharma karane ko nahIM kahA hai| uNodarI se DojiMga nahIM hotaa| uNodarI sabase acchI cIz2a hai| bhojana ke cAra bhAga kara dene haiN| do bhAga roTI-sabjI ke, eka bhAga pAnI aura eka bhAga khAlI rahane denA vAyu saMcAra ke lie| nahIM to jAgRti khatma ho jaaegii| jAgRti nahIM cUkeM vaha uNodarI kahalAtA hai| upavAsa to yahA~ bahuta bar3ha gayA ho, zarIra bigar3a gayA ho taba krnaa| vaha Avazyaka nahIM hai| 'upavAsa', phira bhI kaSAya praznakartA : jisa dina upavAsa karU~ usa dina subaha meM ulUM taba se 'koI merA kAma kara de to acchA' aisA hotA rahatA hai| tujhe bukhAra AyA hogA to miTa jaaegaa| kucha to ratha para baiThane ke lie upavAsa karate haiN| are, tere zarIra kI pasaliyA~ to dikha rahI haiM, phira kisalie aisA karatA hai? vaha to koI moTA ho usake kAma kA hai| bhagavAna kA kahA huA upavAsa galata nahIM hai| vaha to bahuta suMdara hai, para vaha kise karane ko kahA thA? ye Apako maiMne 'svarUpajJAna' diyA hai, isalie Apa upavAsa karo to vaha bhagavAna ke kahe anusAra hogaa| varnA jisane asalI ghI khAyA ho, zuddha dUdha pIyA ho, bhojana karate samaya zaddha ghI ho, jaba kaMTrola kA anAja nahIM thA, kaMTrola kA ghI nahIM thA, milAvaTavAlA mAla nahIM thA, una dinoM jo bhojana karate the unheM bhagavAna ne upavAsa karane ko kahA thaa| Aja ke ye jIva bhUkhe haiM, unheM bhalA kyA upavAsa karane? ina logoM meM tAkata hI kahA~ hai? inakI pasaliyA~ to dikhatI haiN| do-tIna upavAsa kare to harja nahIM hai| .....eka bhI upavAsa nahIM huA praznakartA : Apane jJAnI banane ke lie kitane upavAsa kie? dAdAzrI : mujhe saugaMdha khAne ke lie eka upavAsa karanA cAhie, vaha bhI nahIM huaa| hama niraMtara uNodarI tapa karate haiM, yaha hamArI khoja hai| niraMtara uNodarI, vaha niraMtara upavAsa jaisA hai| ye bArahoM prakAra ke tapa karane jAe~ to kaba aMta AegA? uNodarI-jAgRti kA hetu praznakartA : jIvana meM mokSa mArga para Age bar3hane ke lie upavAsa nahIM ho sake to yathAzakti kyA karanA cAhie? dAdAzrI : uNodarI krnaa| praznakartA : uNodarI kA artha kyA hai? dAdAzrI : Apa cAra roTiyA~ khAte hoM to pahale tIna roTiyA~ khAo, phira do roTiyA~ khAo, vaha uNodarI kahalAtA hai| yaha peTa kucha bhI DAla dene ke lie nahIM hai! dAdAzrI : aisA bhikhArIpana karane ke badale tapa nahIM karanA acchA hai| bhagavAna ne aisA nahIM kahA ki svAzrayI banane ke badale parAzrayI bno| praznakartA : upavAsa kiyA ho taba koI cIz2a khAne kA mana karatA ho, taba hotA hai ki Aja to merA upavAsa hai, parantu jo vastu bhAtI ho vaha 'rakha denA, kala khAU~gA' to usakA doSa lagatA hogA yA nahIM? dAdAzrI : usake badale to khAnevAlA hotA hai vaha khAkara mukta ho jAtA hai' aura nahIM khAnevAlA baMdhatA hai, use baMdhana nAma kA doSa lagatA hai| khAnevAlA khAtA hai aura baMdhatA nhiiN| vaha to khAtA hai aura phira use bhUla jAtA hai| kala khAU~gA' vAlA khAtA nahIM hai, phira bhI usase cipaTA rahatA hai, isalie vaha baMdhana meM aayaa| arthAt yaha jhUThI bAta jaba udaya meM AegI, taba vaha cAra pairoMvAlA bana jAegA! ise hI, dharma meM pAgalapana ghusa gayA hai, kahA jAtA hai na? are, yaha to bar3I jimmedArI uThA lI, aisA kahA jaaegaa| 'kala khAU~gA' kahatA hai isalie rAta ko vaha yAda AtA hai, 'phrija meM rakhA hai isalie kala khAU~gA' aisA dhyAna rahA karatA hai| aba
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________________ (21) tapazcaryA kA hetu 175 176 AptavANI-4 yaha dhyAna kyA nahIM karatA? do pairoM meM se cAra paira kara detA hai| do pairoM se gira jAtA ho, usake badale cAra paira ho jAte haiM, taba girA to nahIM jAegA na phira?! yaha to upavAsa karatA hai aura sAtha meM kaSAya bhI karatA hai| kaSAya karane hoM to upavAsa mata karanA aura upavAsa karanA ho to kaSAya mata krnaa| ArtadhyAna aura raudradhyAna kie binA upavAsa karanA caahie| taba jisa dina upavAsa nahIM ho usa dina yadi khAne kA do baje taka nahIM mile to zorazarAbA kara detA hai, laTU uchalatA rahatA hai aura cillAtA rahatA hai ki yaha gA~va hI aisA hai ki yahA~ hoTala hI nahIM! vAstava meM, usa samaya, usa jagaha para sa~bhAla lenA hai| are, Aja vItarAga kA kahA huA upavAsa kara na to mana kUdanA baMda ho jaaegaa| aura vivAha ke mauke para acchAacchA khAne-pIne kA ho, taba 'Aja merA upavAsa hai' kahakara khar3A rahegA! loga aise ho gae haiM!! yaha to kucha bhAna hI nahIM hai logoM ko ki kaunase saMyogoM meM upavAsa kreN| jaba khAne kA nahIM mile yA manabhAtA bhojana nahIM mile to tapa meM tpnaa| yaha to khAne kA use samaya para hAz2ira ho jAe vaisA hai| aura jaba nahIM mile taba samajha jA na ki aisA nahIM lagatA ki Aja ThikAnA par3egA isalie Aja upavAsa hai| para yaha to seTha kyA karegA ki bhUkha lagI to jAkara lakSmI laoNja dekhakara Upara car3hegA aura kahegA ki, 'yaha to gaMdI hai, ye loga to gaMde dikhate haiN|' taba seTha nIce utara jAte haiM aura kaSAya karate haiN| khAnA-pInA saba sAre masAle Apake lie taiyAra haiM, loga taMga A jAe~ utanI sAmagrI hai| lekina kisalie nahIM milatA hai? kyoMki aMtarAya lAyA hai| battIsa-battIsa prakAra ke bhojana mila jAe~ aisA hai, para inheM to zuddha ghI DalI haI khicaDI bhI nahIM milatI, kyoMki aMtarAya lekara Ae haiN| bhagavAna ne kaSAya karane ko manA kiyA hai| tapa karate samaya kaSAya kare, usake badale tapa nahIM kare to acchaa| kaSAya kI bahuta hI kImata hai| tapa meM jitanA lAbha hai, usase adhika kaSAya meM nukasAna hai| yaha vItarAgoM kA dharma lAbhAlAbhavAlA hai| isalie sau pratizata lAbha ho aura aThAnave pratizata nukasAna ho to do pratizata hamAre ghara meM bacA, aisA mAnakara vyApAra karanA hai| parantu kaSAya se sabakucha jalakara bhasmIbhUta ho jAtA hai, kaSAya sabakucha hI khA jAtA hai| kisa prakAra khA jAtA hai? yaha to usake jaisA hai ki aMdhA AdamI DorI banA rahA ho aura pIche bachar3A cabAtA rhe| aMdhA samajhatA hai ki DorI lambI hotI jA rahI hai aura bachar3A DorI cabA jAtA hai| vaisA hI ina saba ajJAnakriyAoM kA phala hai| ekabAra samajhakara kare to kAma ho jaae| anaMta janmoM se aise ke aise hI kiyA hai| japa kie, tapa kie, para phira vaha AjJApUrvaka nahIM kiyaa| khada ke mata se, svacchaMda se kiyaa| sira para samakitI guru hoM to unakI AjJAsahita karanA caahie| guru samakitI hone cAhie, mithyAtvI guru nahIM cleNge| mithyAtvI guru hamArA mithyAtva nahIM nikAlate phira bhI mithyAtvI garu hoM to hameM unakI sevA karanI caahie| parantu guru to samakitI cAhie, jinheM AtmA kA bhAna ho vaise guru banAe~ taba apanA kAma hogaa| bAqI mithyAtvI kA saMga kareM to apanA saMgha kAzI meM jAegA nahIM aura rAste meM hI bhaTaka maregA! praznakartA : jAgRtipUrvaka ke upavAsa kise kahate haiM? dAdAzrI : koI jAgRta vyakti ho, usake nimitta se upavAsa karo to vaha jAgRtipUrvaka kiyA kahA jaaegaa| abhI maiM jAgRta puruSa hU~, yadi mere zabda se upavAsa kare to vaha jAgRtipUrvaka kA upavAsa kahA jaaegaa| praznakartA : jAgRti prApta karane se pahale krAisTa, buddha ne bhI upavAsa kie the na? dAdAzrI: sirpha upavAsa hI nahIM, parantu dUsarI bahuta sArI cIjeM unhoMne kI thiiN| bhojana khuda hI mAdaka vastu hai| koI bhI bhojana ho, para vaha mAdaka vastu hai, isalie usakI mAdakatA meM sabhI maje karate rahate haiN| upavAsa se usakI sArI mAdakatA utara jAtI hai| parantu usa jAgRti kA bAda meM phira poSaNa nahIM ho to bekAra hai| vaha zarIra ko acchA banAtA hai, z2arA-sA mana acchA karatA hai, utanA hii| para phira jAgRti nahIM rahatI, vaha vApisa so
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________________ (21) tapazcaryA kA hetu 177 178 AptavANI-4 jAtA hai| kyoMki jaba kabhI bhI khAe binA to calegA hI nahIM na? aura eka bAra saMpUrNa jAgRta ho jAne ke bAda khAe-pIe to koI harja nhiiN| eka bAra A~kha khulI phira bhale hI khAe-pIe, use kucha bhI bAdhaka nahIM hotaa| vaha to jise jo mAphika Ae vaha bhojana to lenA hI par3atA hai| tujhe yadi mAphika Ae to tapa kI khurAka lenA aura mAphika nahIM Ae to vaha mata lenaa| tapa bhI khurAka hai| phira bhI tujhe ajIrNa ho jAe to upavAsa krnaa| bhagavAna kA aura bhojana kA kucha lenA-denA nahIM hai| AtmA ko upavAsa kI kyA jarUrata hai? ye to upavAsa karate haiM aura kahate haiM ki AtmA ke lie kara rahA huuN| AtmA kahatA hai ki usameM mujha para kyA upakAra kiyA? isalie Apako jaba aisA lage ki yaha tapa karanA hai, taba krnaa| ___upavAsa se mukti ? isa zarIra ko roja khilAte rahate haiM, use eka dina nirAhArI rakheM to zarIra acchA rahegA, mana acchA rahegA, saba acchA rahegA - hAnikAraka nhiiN| jise mokSa meM jAnA ho use ina sabakI aisI koI jarUrata nahIM hai| jarUrata hai, para upavAsa kA abhiniveSa nahIM honA caahie| mokSa meM jAnA ho to itanA samajhanA cAhie ki 'maiM baMdhA huA hU~ yA nahIM?' phira yaha jAnanA cAhie ki, 'yaha baMdhana kisa taraha TUTegA? baMdhana kisa AdhAra para huA hai? yaha baMdhana kisase TUTegA?' usake upAya jAna lene caahie| baMdhana tor3ane ke upAya to jo mukta ho cuke hoM unase hameM pUchanA cAhie ki, 'sAhaba, Apa mukta ho cuke haiM to maiM Apake sAtha bailUM, nahIM to mujhe TAima bigAr3akara kyA karanA hai? varnA Apa baMdhe hue haiM aura maiM bhI baMdhA huA hU~ taba hamArA kAma kaise hogA?' tujhe koI kahanevAle nahIM mile ki maiM mukta ho cukA hU~? praznakartA : yaha ApakA satsaMga milA hai na? dAdAzrI : basa, to, 'hama' mukta ho cuke haiM, vaisA hama kahate haiM! aura tujhe mukti cAhie to aanaa| isakI fIsa vagairaha nahIM hotI aura bhagavAna ke muktimArga meM fIsa jaisA kucha hotA hI nhiiN| kyoMki 'jJAnI puruSa' kise kahA jAtA hai ki jise lakSmI kI bhIkha nahIM ho, kIrti kI bhIkha nahIM ho, ziSyoM kI, viSayoM kI bhIkha nahIM ho, kisI cIz2a kI bhIkha nahIM ho, taba 'jJAnI' kA pada prApta hotA hai| 'karo' para phala 'zraddhA' se hI praznakartA : parantu jyotiSI aisA kahate haiM ki rAhu aura ketu bAdhaka haiM, isalie budhavAra kA vrata kro| dAdAzrI : to Apa budhavAra kA vrata kro| usameM kyA nukasAna hai? yadi jyotiSI ke vahA~ gae to budhavAra kA vrata karanA, nahIM to jAnA mt| jyotiSI ke ghara para pachane gae to vahama ghusa gayA na? isalie aba budhavAra kA vrata kara lenaa| vaise bhI upavAsa se zarIra ko phAyadA hotA hai| praznakartA : hamAre ghara para vaMza-paraMparAgata somavAra kA upavAsa calatA hai| dAdAzrI : vaha krnaa| Apako vizvAsa hai yA nahIM? praznakartA : vizvAsa to hogA hI na? dAdAzrI : jo karo vaha vizvAsa se karanA cAhie aura vizvAsa Diga jAe to nahIM karanA caahie| gAr3I meM baiThate hI aisA lage ki 'kala gADI paTarI para se utara gaI thI, vaha Aja bhI utara gaI to kyA hogA?' taba usa ghar3I gAr3I meM se utara jaanaa| vizvAsa nahIM Ae taba usake kisa kAma kA? vizvAsa ho taba taka karo, vizvAsa nahIM ho taba chor3a do| vizvAsa to kaisA honA cAhie ki mAre, apamAna kare ApakA, to bhI ApakA vizvAsa nahIM uThe! aisA vizvAsa baiTha jAnA caahie|
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________________ 180 AptavANI-4 jI hI nahIM sakatA, phira bhI adharma ghusa jAtA hai| yaha nAstika hai vaha bhagavAna meM nahIM mAnatA, dharma meM nahIM mAnatA parantu aMta meM nIti meM mAnatA hai aura nIti to sabase bar3A dharma hai| naitikatA ke binA dharma hI nahIM hai| naitikatA to dharma kA AdhArastaMbha hai| jo bhagavAna ko nahIM mAnatA, vaha bhI dharma meM hI hai| dharma ke binA to koI hai hI nhiiN| AtmA hai to dharma honA hI caahie| hara eka manuSya dharma meM hI hai! hA~, parantu sAtha meM adharma bhI hotA hai!! dharma, pakSa meM yA niSpakSatA meM? (22) laukika dharma mokSa ke lie kauna-sA dharma? praznakartA : sAdhaka kisI bhI dharma kA ThIka se pAlana kare to vaha mokSa taka pahu~ca jAegA na? dAdAzrI : sAdhaka to pakSapAtI hai aura bhagavAna kauna-se pakSa ke hoMge? niSpakSapAtI hoMge na ve? praznakartA : haaN| dAdAzrI : pakSa meM par3e hue kA mokSa kabhI bhI nahIM hogaa| hA~, bhautika sukha mileNge| mokSa sTenDarDavAle ko nahIM miltaa| AuTa oNpha sTenDarDa ho jAe~ tabhI mokSa milegaa| yahA~ para yaha sTenDarDa se bAhara hai| yahA~ sabhI Ate haiM, muslima, jaina, vaiSNava sabhI Ate haiM! ye alaga-alaga dharma haiM - jainadharma, vaiSNavadharma, muslimadharma - ve sabhI 'rileTiva' dharma haiN| isameM se eka bhI 'riyala' dharma nahIM hai| 'rileTiva' dharma arthAt Apako Devalapa kara detA hai| para usameM se phula Devalapa nahIM huA jA sktaa| aura mokSa to pUrNa vikasita kA hI ho sakatA hai| deha hone ke bAvajUda bhI deha aura AtmA alaga raheM, usake bAda hI mokSa hotA hai| mokSa ke lie to vItarAga vANI ke alAvA aura nahIM koI upAya ! aura dUsarI sabhI rAgavAlI vANI hotI hai| vItarAga vANI arthAt syaadvaad| kisI jIva kA pramANa nahIM dubhe (Ahata honaa)| phira bhale hI kasAI Ae, para vaha bhI usake dharma meM hI hai| vItarAga kI dRSTi se koI eka ghar3I ke lie bhI dharma se bAhara nahIM jAtA hai| dharma ke binA to koI eka kSaNa bhI saba dharmoM ke saMpradAya-paMtha matAgraha aura kadAgraha meM hI race-base haiN| unameM hara eka aisA mAnatA hai ki unake dharma se hI mokSa hogA, aisA mAnate haiM, para ve saba AgrahI haiM, matAgrahI haiN| matAgraha se kabhI bhI mokSa nahIM hotaa| nirAgrahI kA hI mokSa hai| pakSa meM par3A huA manuSya usa pakSa ke zAstra par3he to kucha bhI nahIM hogaa| hara eka pakSa kA 'esensa' (sAra) nikAle aura hara eka pakSa ke, hara eka dharma ke zAstra par3he, taba usane dharma ko prApta kiyA aisA kahA jaaegaa| 'dharma kyA hai?' vaha dhAraNa kie binA samajha meM nahIM A sktaa| varnA, jitane bAr3e meM baMda hue ve sabhI bher3eM aura jitane loga bAr3e se bAhara nikala gae, ve sabhI sher| bhagavAna kahate haiM ki hamArA vItarAga mata hai aura Apa pakSavAloM kA mata vItarAga rahita hai| caubIsoM tIrthaMkaroM kA vItarAga mata thaa| pakSa meM par3e hue hoM, vahA~ vItarAga mata nahIM hotaa| bhagavAna ke jAne ke bAda pakSapAta ho gayA, bhAga ho ge| mokSa kA mArga to saccA nahIM rahA, para vyavahArika dharma bhI saccA nahIM rhaa| bhagavAna kI saccI AjJA pAlanA aura usameM rahanA, vahI dharma kahalAtA hai| unakI AjJA kama pAlI jAe to kama aura do pAlI jA sakeM to do, parantu ghoTAlA nahIM honI caahie| yaha to sAmAyika karatA hai aura ghar3I dekhatA hai! bhagavAna ne kahA hai ki ho sake to sAmAyika karanA, bahuta nahIM ho sake to kama karanA, parantu satarkatA se karanA, ThIka se krnaa| bhagavAna kI AjJA kA lAkha bAra pAlana kareM to bhI purAnI nahIM hotii| parantu bhagavAna kI AjJA samajha meM nahIM AtI, isalie sirpha ghoTAlA karate haiN| usameM unakA doSa nahIM hai| vItarAga bhagavAna kA dharmadhyAna kaba hogA ki jaba kisI bhI pakSa
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________________ (22) laukika dharma 181 meM nahIM par3e tb| kisI bhI pakSa meM par3e to dharmadhyAna naSTa ho jaaegaa| pakSa meM rahanA arthAt 'vyU poinTa' meM par3e rhnaa| 'senTara' maiM baiThe to matabheda nahIM rahegA, taba mokSa hogaa| kisI bhI 'DigrI' para baiThe vahA~ hamArA tumhArA rahatA hai, usase mokSa nahIM hogA / dharma meM bhI vyApArI vRtti..... saMsAra meM jo dharma cala rahe haiM ve vyApAra kahalAte haiM, unameM sUkSma bhI icchA chupI hotI hai| sUkSma meM bhI icchA hai, vahA~ vastu prApta nahIM hotii| vahI DUbA huA ho to hameM kisa taraha tAregA? jJAna ke binA icchA jAtI nhiiN| icchA svayaM hI agni hai| icchA huI arthAt vaha prajvalita hotI hai aura phira bujhAnI par3atI hai| loga Aja use 'peTrola' se bujhAte haiM! Apa yadi ghara se acchI taraha peTa bharakara khA-pIkara nikale hoM to kisIkI dukAna kI tarapha dekhoge? praznakartA: nhiiN| dAdAzrI : vaise hI 'jJAnI puruSa' bhItara tRpti karavA dete haiM, isalie phira bAhara icchA nahIM hotii| praznakartA: sabhI loga lUTabAjI meM par3e haiM, to unakA kyA hogA? dAdAzrI : jo luTa rahe haiM, ve saba kamAI kara rahe haiM! 'rileTiva' meM luTe, taba 'riyala' meM kamAI karegA, aisA mAnA jAtA hai| praznakartA: mahAmohanIya karma yAnI kyA? dAdAzrI : dharma ke nAma para durupayoga karanA, vaha mahAmohanIya karma kahalAtA hai, vaha bhayaMkara avatAra bA~dha detA hai| dharma meM vyApAra kare, paise saMbaMdhI kA vyApAra bahuta kharAba nahIM kahalAtA, parantu durAcArI ho vaha bhayaMkara karma bA~dhatA hai| jaba saMsAra meM durupayoga kare vaha mohanIya karma aura dharma meM durupayoga kare vaha mahAmohanIya karma / ...to rirTana TikiTa tiryaMca kI! laukika dharma meM 'gurujI hamArA yaha kIjie' itanA karo to gurujI AptavANI-4 khuza ho jAte haiN| para vaha calatA hai| kyoMki ahaMkAra ke binA to jIyA hI kaise jAe? parantu lakSmI yA viSaya dharma meM nahIM ghusane caahie| maiM lakSmI lU~. loga bhI bhikhArI aura maiM bhI bhikhArI, to phira 'jJAnI puruSa' meM aura logoM meM pharka kyA rahA? isalie 'jJAnI puruSa' to kisI bhI cIz2a ke bhikhArI nahIM hote| unheM kisI cIz2a kI icchA nahIM hotii| yahA~ to mAna kI bhIkha, lakSmI kI bhIkha, viSayoM kI bhIkha, kIrti kI bhIkha, ziSyoM kI bhIkha - kisI bhI prakAra kI bhIkha nahIM hotii| jahA~ kisI bhI prakAra kI bhIkha hai vahA~ bhagavAna aura bhakta alaga haiN| aura kisI bhI prakAra kI bhIkha nahIM hai, vahA~ bhagavAna aura bhakta eka ho gae, abheda ho gae! sabhI loga dharma meM jhagar3e nahIM krte| vaha to jise riTarna TikiTa milI huI ho, utane hI karate haiN| saMsAra meM jhagar3e kare usameM harja nahIM hai, para dharma meM jhagar3e karanA to riTarna TikiTavAloM kA kAma hai| praznakartA: 'riTarna TikiTa' matalaba kyA? dAdAzrI : ye jAnavara meM se yahA~ para AyA aura vApisa vahA~ se riTarna TikiTa lekara AyA hai, vaha vApisa vahIM jAnevAlA hai| dharma meM jhagar3e nahIM hone cAhie ki hamArA muslima dharma, hamArA hindUdharma / dharma para hAtha nahIM DAlanA cAhie kisiiko| jo riTarna TikiTa lekara AyA ho, vahI dharma meM hAtha DAlatA hai| kisI dharma kI tarapha napharata rakhanI, ve sabhI dharma ke jhagar3e kahalAte haiN| saccI, sIdhI lAinavAle aisA nahIM krte| vaise mAnavatAvAle loga bahuta kama hote haiN| 182 'AtmA' kI pahacAna 'jJAnI' hI karavAe~ vItarAgoM kI bAta itanI jhUThI nikalatI hai kyA? kyA sAsa-bahU jaisI lagatI hai? nahAne kI Adata par3I hai isalie kIcar3a cupar3atA hai| aba yaha burI Adata jAtI nahIM, taba taka kIcar3a cupar3e binA rahegA nhiiN| isase to bhagavAna ko pahacAno, AtmA ko jaano| AtmA jAnA usane sabakucha jAna liyA aura AtmA nahIM jAnA to jaMgala meM jAkara cillAkara ro, tAki acchI taraha jI bharakara rone ko mile ! yahA~ to jI bharakara rone ko bhI nahIM miltaa|
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________________ (22) laukika dharma 183 184 AptavANI-4 vItarAga ke mArga meM to eka zabda meM nirA sukha hI baratatA hai| ina 'dAdA' ne kise tyAga karane ke lie kahA hai? na to paccakhANa die, na hI tyAga kA upadeza diyA hai| dekho, yoM hI kaisA sukha baratatA hai sabhI ko! aura vApisa kabhI kama nahIM par3e vaisA sukha!! asta hI nahIM ho vaisA ujAlA diyA hai, anaMta ujAlA!!! laukika dharma, dvaMdva meM hI rakheM 'rileTiva' dharma dvaMdva utpanna karanevAle haiM aura 'yaha' to 'riyala' mArga hai| yaha dvaMdva se pare karanevAlA hai| yadi dharma kI saccI dukAna hotI to bhI ThIka thA, para ye to bhaTakA deMge, vahA~ kyA phAyadA? vahA~ kahegA ki, 'AtmA ko phcaano|' taba hama kaheM ki, 'vaha to mere pitAjI bhI kahate the, isalie to maiM Apake pAsa AyA hU~, tAki Apa pahacAna karavA deN|' para yaha to jahA~ aura tahA~ sardI meM ThaMDe pAnI se nahalAte haiM! jahA~ AtmajJAna kA eka akSara bhI nahIM dekhA aura bana baiThe haiM jnyaanii| krodha-mAna-mAyA-lobha jahA~ sAbuta hoM, use jJAnI kahA hI kaise jAe? jJAnI kinheM kahate haiM ki jinameM saMsArI pravRtti nahIM ho, krodha-mAna-mAyA-lobha nahIM hoN| vItarAga ho gae hoM ve 'jJAnI' kahalAte haiN| yaha to camar3e kI A~kha ke kAraNa bhedabuddhi utpanna huI hai! do bhAI hoM, phira bhI tU-maiM ke bheda DAlatI hai| pati-patnI hoM, phira bhI bhedabuddhi, jhagar3ate haiM taba t aura maiM! yaha 'rileTiva' aisA hai. vaha TheTha taka kucala-kucalakara jIro taka nahIM le Ae, taba taka aMta nahIM aaegaa| 'rileTiva' dharma bheda DalavAte haiM aura 'riyala' dharma TheTha taka judAI nahIM lAtA, bheda nahIM DAlatA, abheda rakhatA hai! sabhI 'rileTiva' dharma laukika dharma kahalAte haiM, ve mokSa meM to nahIM le jA skte| isalie kucha karane ko kaheM ki, 'aisA karo, vaisA karo' aisA karavAte haiN| usameM Apa kartA nahIM haiN| phira bhI Apako karttAbhAva meM hI rakhate haiM aura hama Apako kucha bhI karane ko nahIM kahate, isalie yaha alaukika kahalAtA hai| yahA~ para jo A gayA, taba phira usakA mokSa honA hI caahie| isalie hama use pahale hI pUcha lete haiM ki 'tujhe mokSa meM jAnA hai? terA roga nikAlanA hai?' aura phira usakI icchA ho to 'oparezana' kara dete haiN| aura yadi usakI mokSa kI icchA nahIM ho aura saMsAra ke sukha cAhie hoM, to vaha eDajasTamenTa bhI karavA dete haiN| gharavAloM ke sAtha jhagar3A ho to vaha bhI nikAla dete haiM aura ghara meM eDajasTamenTa' karavA dete haiN| eDajasTamenTa hI mukhya dharma hai| koI Apake pAsa se paisA le gayA ho aura ApakA usake sAtha kA eDajasTamenTa TUTe, to use mukhya dharma cUka gae, aisA kahA jaaegaa| turanta hI phala de vaha dharma dharma to kise kahate haiM? jo turanta phala de| turanta phala denevAlA ho to hI dharma hai, nahIM to adhrm| yaha krodha, turanta hI phala detA hai na? jaise adharma turanta phala detA hai, vaise hI dharma kA phala bhI turanta hI milanA caahie| jaba taka svarUpa kA ajJAna nahIM gayA taba taka yadi saccA dharma kare to bhI usake ghara meM kleza nahIM hogaa| jahA~ kaSAya hai, vahA~ dharma hI nahIM hai| kaSAya hai vahA~ loga dharma DhUMDhate haiM, vahI Azcarya hai! logoM meM parIkSA karane kA sAhasa hI nahIM hai| samyak darzana prApta hone ke bAda use saMsAra acchA hI nahIM lgtaa| isalie hI samyak darzana kyA kahatA hai ki, 'mujhe prApta karane ke bAda tujhe mokSa meM jAnA hI par3egA! isalie mujhe prApta karane se pahale vicAra krnaa|' isalie to kavi ne gAyA hai na ki, 'jenI re saMto, koTi janmonI puNyai jAge, tene re saMto, dAdAnAM darzana thAye re, ghaTamAM ene khaTakAro khaTa khaTa vAge re|' - navanIta khaTakAro yAnI kyA ki ekabAra 'dAdA' se milA to yahA~ para bArabAra darzana karane kA mana hotA rahatA hai| isalie hama kahate haiM ki, 'yadi tujhe vApisa jAnA ho to mujhase milanA mata aura milanA ho to phira tujhe mokSa meM jAnA par3egA! yadi tujhe cAra gatiyoM meM jAnA ho to vaha bhI huuN| yahA~ to mokSa kA sikkA laga jAtA hai, isalie mokSa meM jAnA hI par3atA hai|' hama to Apase kahate haiM ki yahA~ para pha~sanA nahIM aura pha~sane ke bAda nikala nahIM skoge|
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________________ 186 AptavANI-4 (23) mokSa prApti, dhyeya mokSa, vaha kyA hai? praznakartA : mokSa yA mukti kise kahate haiM? dAdAzrI : mokSa aura mukti naz2adIka ke hI zabda haiN| eka hI mA~ ke do bacce haiN| yadi sarva karmoM se mukti cAhie, pUrA mokSa cAhie to pahale ajJAna se mukti honI caahie| yAnI Apa ajJAna se hI baMdhe hue ho| yadi ajJAna jAe to sabakucha sarala ho jAegA, zAMti ho jAegI, dinoMdina AnaMda bar3hatA jAegA aura karma se mukti hotI jaaegii| mokSa arthAt hameM muktatA kA bhAna honA caahie| maiM mukta hU~' aisA bhAna jIte jI hI rahanA caahie| mara jAne ke bAda mokSa kAma kA nahIM hai, vaha to dhokhA dene kI bAta hai| mokSa to naqada honA cAhie, udhAra nahIM clegaa| sabjI lene kisIko bhejeM to bhI aMdara se kamizana nikAla le, vaisA yaha jamAnA hai, usameM to bhalA mokSa udhAra liyA jAtA hogA? vaisA udhAra mokSa koI de to hameM kaha denA cAhie ki 'agale janma meM mokSa', vaisA udhAra mokSa mujhe nahIM caahie| isa samaya meM udhAra dhaMdhA karanA hI mt| Aja to dharma meM bhI milAvaTa ho gaI hai| zuddha ghI meM vejiTebala ghI kI milAvaTa kA z2amAnA gayA, aba to vejiTebala ghI ke aMdara bhI milAvaTa hotI hai ! koI kahe ki, 'Apake krodha-mAna-mAyA-lobha nikAla do|' taba hama kaheM, 'sAhaba, vaha to maiM bhI jAnatA hU~, para aisA kucha kahie ki jisase mere krodha-mAna-mAyA-lobha cale jaaeN|' aise hI calAte raheM to usakA kyA artha hai? vacanabalavAle puruSa ke pAsa jAe~, cAritrabalavAle puruSa ke pAsa jAe~ to krodha-mAna-mAyA-lobha ko cale jAnA pdd'egaa| kamajora vyakti kI kamajoriyA~ usase apane Apa se nikala sakatI hoM, to phira maz2abUta vyakti kA kyA kAma hai? loga dharma kA sunane jAte haiM use zrutajJAna kahate haiN| parantu zrutajJAna to vaha kahalAtA hai ki use sunane ke bAda apanA roga apane Apa hI nikala jaae| mokSaprApti kA mArga praznakartA : mokSa kisa taraha milatA hai? dAdAzrI : usakA tarIkA nahIM hotaa| ArtadhyAna aura raudradhyAna cale jAe~ to mokSa milatA hai| praznakartA : phira bhI mokSa prApta karane kA rAstA kyA hotA hogA? kisake pAsa se mokSa mila sakegA? dAdAzrI : mokSa to sirpha 'jJAnI puruSa' ke pAsa se hI milatA hai| jo mukta ho gae hoM ve hI Apako mukta kara sakate haiN| khuda baMdhA huA dUsare ko kisa taraha char3avA sakegA? yAnI hameM jisa dukAna para jAnA ho usa dukAna para jAne kI chUTa hai, parantu vahA~ para pUchanA ki, 'sAhaba, mujhe mokSa deMge?' taba vaha kahe ki, 'nahIM, hamArI mokSa dene kI taiyArI nahIM hai|' to hama dUsarI dukAna, tIsarI dukAna para jaaeN| kisI jagaha para hameM z2arUrata kA mAla mila jAegA, para eka hI dukAna para baiThe raheM to? to phira TakarAkara mara jaaeNge| anaMta janmoM se aise hI bhaTakate rahane kA kAraNa hI yaha hai ki hama eka hI dukAna para baiThe rahe haiM, khojabIna bhI nahIM kii| 'yahA~ baiThane se hameM mukti kA anubhava hotA hai yA nahIM? apane krodha-mAna-mAyA-lobha kama hue?' vaha bhI nahIM dekhaa| vivAha karanA ho to patA lagAtA hai ki kauna-sA kula hai, nanihAla kahA~ hai? saba 'riyalAija' karatA hai| para isameM 'riyalAija' nahIM krtaa|
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________________ (23) mokSa prApti, dhyeya 187 188 AptavANI-4 kitanA bar3A 'blaMDara' (mUlabhUta bhUla) kahalAegA yaha? praznakartA : vItarAga dazA prApta karane ke lie sabase prathama sIr3hI kauna-sI hai? dAdAzrI : saccA to mokSa meM le jAe vaha hai| praznakartA : mokSa to phira milegA na? dAdAzrI: abhI deha kA mokSa nahIM hai, para AtmA kA mokSa to hai na? isa kAla ke kAraNa isa kSetra se deha kA mokSa rukA huA hai, para AtmA kA mokSa to ho sakatA hai na? praznakartA : hA~, ho sakatA hai| dAdAzrI : taba to itanA ho jAe to bhI bahuta ho gyaa| praznakartA : mokSa prApta karane ke lie kyA kareM? Apa upAya btaaie| dAdAzrI : upAya maiM Apako batAtA hU~, para vaha Apase hogA nhiiN| ghara jAkara bhUla jaaoge| isa kAla meM logoM kI utanI sthiratA nahIM hotii| isake badale to hamAre pAsa AnA, eka hI ghaMTe meM Apako naqada mokSa de duuNgaa| phira Apako kucha bhI nahIM karanA hogaa| sirpha hamArI AjJA meM rahanA hogaa| mokSa arthAt sanAtana sukha.... praznakartA : manuSya ne mokSa ke bAre meM yoM to kucha anubhava nahIM kiyA hotA hai, phira bhI mokSa ke lie prayatna karatA hai| dAdAzrI : isa jagat meM jo sukha-duHkha kA anubhava hotA hai, vaha to saMpUrNa duHkha hI hai| jo sukha lagatA hai, vaha to kalpanA se hI hai| jo vastu Apako pasaMda ho, vaha vastu kisI aura ko de de, taba Apako du:khadAyI lagatA hai| aisA hotA hai yA nahIM hotA? sukha to kise kahate haiM ki jo sabhI ko sukha hI lge| hara eka kA abhiprAya sacce sukha ke lie eka hI hotA hai| aba, jIva-mAtra sukha ko DhUMDhatA hai, du:kha se dUra bhAgatA hai| duHkha pasaMda nahIM hai kisiiko| aba phira ye sukha to TemparerI haiM, ve use pasaMda nahIM hai sukha Ane ke bAda du:kha AtA hai| logoM ko kauna-sA sukha pasaMda hai? sanAtana sukha, ki jisake Ane ke bAda kabhI bhI duHkha nahIM aae| sanAtana sukha kise kaheMge? mokSa ko, mukti ko! mokSa ho tabhI sanAtana sukha utpanna hotA hai| baMdhana se du:kha hai| ___ saMsArI duHkha kA abhAva, vaha mukti kA prathama anubhava kahalAtA hai| vaha hama Apako 'jJAna' dete haiM, taba vaisA Apako dUsare hI dina se ho jAtA hai| phira yaha zarIra kA bojha, karmoM kA bojha ve saba TUTa jAte haiM, vaha dUsarA anubhv| phira AnaMda hI itanA adhika hotA hai ki jisakA varNana hI nahIM ho sktaa| siddhagati, sthiti kaisI? praznakartA : mokSa milane ke bAda hamArI sthiti kyA rahatI hogI? dAdAzrI : paramAtma svruup| praznakartA : phira use kucha kArya karanA rahatA hai kyA? dAdAzrI: koI kArya hotA hI nahIM vahA~ pr| abhI bhI ApakA AtmA kucha bhI kArya nahIM kara rahA hai| yaha jo kArya kara rahA hai, vaha ajJAna bhAva hai, mikenikala bhAva hai| AtmA kriyAkArI hai hI nahIM, svayaM jJAyaka svabhAva kA hai| vahA~ siddhagati meM sirpha jJAtA-dRSTA aura paramAnaMda hotA hai| vahA~ siddhagati meM itanA adhika sukha hai ki vahA~ ke niraMtara sukha meM se eka miniTa kA sukha yadi yahA~ pRthvI para paDe to isa duniyA meM eka varSa taka to AnaMda-AnaMda kI sImA na rahe! mokSa kA svarUpa praznakartA : mokSa prApta karane ke bAda phira kabhI bhI janma nahIM lete?
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________________ 190 AptavANI-4 meM bhI baMdhana hai, vahA~ bhI pasaMda nahIM ho to bhI rahanA par3atA hai| vahA~ para patnI ke sAtha meM acchA nahIM lagatA ho phira bhI jInA par3atA hai| kyoMki unakA AyuSya kama nahIM ho sktaa| lAkhoM janmoM se isameM se chUTane kI kAmanA hara eka ke buddhi ke Azaya meM hotI hI hai para chUTA nahIM jA sktaa| dhakke bahuta khAtA hai, chaTapaTAtA hai, phira bhI nahIM miltaa| patnI aura baccoM ke binA rahakara dekhatA hai, vahA~ bhI kucha nahIM hotA, isalie vApisa dasare janma meM saMsArI banatA hai| sabhI prakAra ke vikalpa karake dekha lie| nirvikalpa prApta karane ke lie jo kucha karate haiM, ve sabhI vikalpa ke vikalpa haiN| ye jaMjAla chUTa sake vaisA nahIM hai| gRhasthI kA jaMjAla chUTe to tyAgI kA jaMjAla cipaTatA hai, vahA~ bhI saMsAra to hai hI na! vinAzI cIz2a nahIM cAhie (23) mokSa prApti, dhyeya 189 dAdAzrI : isa bakher3e meM kauna Ae? yaha to bahuta trAsadAyaka vastu hai| isa saMsAra meM to kitanI adhika paravazatA hai? yaha to zarAba pIkara khuda apane Apa ko sukhI mAnanA, usake jaisA hai| yaha saMsAra to bhUta cipaTa gayA ho, vaisA hai| ye mana-vacana-kAyA ke tIna bhUta cipaTe hue haiM ! vaha to dAr3ha du:khe taba patA clegaa| rAjA ko bhI dAr3ha duHkhe taba rAjya pyArA lagatA hai yA rAniyA~ pyArI lagatI haiM? praznakartA : koI pyArA nahIM lgtaa| dAdAzrI : yaha to bhayaMkara Aphata hai! aura mokSa to svAbhAvika sukha hai| praznakartA : saMsAra ke vyavahAra meM rahane ke bAvajUda manuSya ko mokSa kA anubhava ho sakatA hai? dAdAzrI : a~dhe manuSya ko eka khaMbhe se kasakara khUba lapeTakara bA~dha diyA ho, phira use chue binA pIche se dhIre se eka DorI bleDa se kATa leM to use patA calegA yA nahIM calegA? praznakartA : clegaa| dAdAzrI : isa bhAga meM se baMdhana TUTa gayA hai aisA use patA cala jAtA hai| usI prakAra mokSa kA anubhava hotA hai! mokSa arthAt muktabhAva, baMdhana nahIM lgtaa| pulisavAlA pakar3e taba bhI baMdhana nahIM lgtaa| svarga, phira bhI baMdhana praznakartA : aisA kahate haiM na, mokSa arthAt svarga milatA hai, vaikuMTha milatA hai yA bhagavAna meM mila jAnA, vaha kyA hai? dAdAzrI : svarga-varga kucha bhI nahIM hotA vahA~ to| svarga yAnI ki bhautika sukha bhogane kA sthAna aura narka meM bhautika duHkha bhogane par3ate haiN| aura isa madhyaloka meM sukha aura duHkha donoM kA miksacara hotA hai| svarga mukti ke lie kyA karanA cAhie? 'jJAnI' ke alAvA hameM dUsarA kucha bhI nahIM cAhie, vaha bhAva rkhnaa| 'isa jagat kI koI bhI vinAzI cIz2a mujhe nahIM caahie|' aisA pA~ca bAra subaha meM bolakara uThe aura use sinsiyara rahe use koI karma nahIM bNdhtaa| parantu 'mujhe' arthAt kauna? vaha nizcita karake bolanA caahie| maiM zuddhAtmA hU~' aura jo cAhie vaha isa deha ko cAhie, 'caMdUlAla' ko caahie| aura vaha to adhika hotA hI nahIM na? 'vyavasthita' meM jo ho vaha ThIka aura nahIM ho to vaha nahIM, parantu 'mujhe kucha bhI nahIM cAhie', vaha bhAva pakkA honA caahie| aura usake prati sinsiyara raheM to kucha bhI dakhala ho vaisA nahIM hai| 'vyavasthita' meM jo milanevAlA ho utanA hI milanevAlA hai, usameM kucha badalAva nahIM hotaa| balki lAbha yaha hai ki ciMtA aura becainI kama ho jAtI hai| ye donoM dravya alaga haiN| unakA alaga anubhava hI karanA hai| dUsarA kucha bhI karanA nahIM hai| bhItara buddhi dakhala kare yA vicAra meM ekAkAra hokara ulajhe to bhI vaha 'hama' nahIM karate haiN| 'Apa''ApakA' bhAga alaga rkho|'aap' aura 'caMdUlAla' par3osI kI taraha raho to kucha bhI asara nahIM
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________________ (23) mokSa prApti, dhyeya AptavANI-4 karegA! yAnI 'Apa' yadi 'apane Apa' ke prati sinsiyara raho to yaha aisA vijJAna hai ki Apako nirlepa hI rakhe! Apa kArakhAne meM naukarI karate ho, vahA~ sinsiyara rahate ho yA nahIM rahate? praznakartA : haaN| dAdAzrI : usameM sinsiyara rahanA siradardI hai| aura isameM itanI adhika siradardI nahIM hai| aura kisIko aisA rahatA ho ki kisI ruci meM use svAda nahIM jAtA ho, use sinsiyArITI nahIM rahatI ho to usa anusAra mujhe kaha denA, to hama usakA rAstA nikAla deNge| parantu aMdara gar3abar3a kare aura mana meM ulajhatA rahe ki 'karma baMdhegA yA kyA', to usa taraha se hala nahIM aaegaa| karma baMdhana kI thiyarI alaga hI hai| vaha hamAre pAsa se samajha lenA hai| jagat kI sattA kahA~ para jhuke? isa jagat meM jisakI sarvasva prakAra kI bhIkha calI gaI ho, use isa jagat meM tamAma sUtra hAtha meM de die jAte haiN| bhIkha kitane prakAra kI hotI hogI? mAna kI bhIkha, lakSmI kI bhIkha, viSayoM kI bhIkha, ziSyoM kI bhIkha, maMdira banavAne kI bhIkha, apamAna kI bhiikh| sabhI prakAra kI bhIkha, bhIkha aura bhIkha! vahA~ apanA dAriya kaise jAe? jisakI tamAma prakAra kI bhIkha chUTa jAe, usake hAtha meM isa jagat kI sattA A jAtI hai| abhI mere hAtha meM A cukI hai, kyoMki merI sarvasva bhIkha chUTa gaI hai| jaba taka nirvAsanika puruSa nahIM mileMge, taba taka saccA dharma prApta nahIM hogaa| nirvAsanika puruSa to jagat meM kabhI hI milate haiN| taba apanA mokSa kA kAma ho jAtA hai| ve nahIM mile to kaba taka calA sakate haiM? mAna ke bhUkhe hoM to calA sakate haiM, parantu lakSmI kI bhIkhavAle. kIrti kI, viSaya kI bhIkhavAle ko nahIM calA skte| bhUla rahita bana AtmA meM Atmabuddhi - vaha mokSa aura deha meM Atmabuddhi - vaha sNsaar| yaha dRSTi dRzya para par3atI rahatI hai, para kabhI bhI dRSTA para nahIM pdd'tii| praznakartA : parantu carmacakSu se jitanA dikhe utanA hI dikhegA na? dAdAzrI : carmacakSu se dRSTi dRSTA meM par3atI hI nhiiN| vaha to divyacakSu utpanna hoM taba dRSTi dRSTA meM par3atI hai| AtmA jAnane ke lie to sirpha bAta ko samajhanA hai| karanA kucha bhI nahIM hai| eka vyakti ne bhagavAna se pUchA ki, 'merA mokSa kaba hogA?' taba bhagavAna ne kahA ki, 'ApakI samajha bhUla rahita hogI taba ApakA mokSa hogaa|' bolo aba bhagavAna ne isameM kyA galata kahA hai? praznakartA : ThIka kahA hai| dAdAzrI : phira vApisa usane bhagavAna se pUchA ki, 'japa-tapa karate haiM, usakA kyA?' taba bhagavAna ne kahA ki, 'vaha to tujhe jisa dina ajIrNa ho gayA ho, usa dina upavAsa krnaa| japa-tapa kI hamArI zarta nahIM hai| terA jJAna aura samajha kisI bhI taraha se bhUla rahita kara, utanA hI hameM caahie|' abhI ApakI kitanI sArI bhUleM haiM? 'maiM caMdUlAla hU~, isa strI kA pati hU~, isa bacce kA bApa huuN|' kitanI sArI bhUleM.... bhUloM kI paraMparA hI hai ! mUla meM hI bhUla hai, vahA~ kyA ho? eka saMkhyA vinAzI hai aura eka saMkhyA avinAzI hai| aba ina donoM ko guNA karane jAe~, taba to vinAzI rakama naSTa ho jaaegii| yAnI guNAkAra kabhI bhI hogA nahIM aura javAba AegA nhiiN| zukravAra badalegA nahIM aura zanivAra hogA nhiiN| 'evarI De phrAyaDe' aura 'phrAyaDe' hI rahatA hai! loga bhUlabhUlaiyA meM cale gae haiM! bhUla se to saMsAra bhI acchA nahIM hotA to mokSa to kisa taraha hogA? vAstava meM to tU svayaM hI mokSasvarUpa hai| tU hI paramAtmA hai, mAtra bhala rahita jJAna aura bhUla rahita samajha kA hI bhAna honA caahie| Apa zuddhAtmA to ho hI, parantu
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________________ (23) mokSa prApti, dhyeya 193 194 AptavANI-4 usakA bhAna honA caahie| __ mAtra mokSa kA hI niyANAM praznakartA : Apa vaha smjhaaie| vaha bhAna karane kI icchA jAgRta huI hai, isalie yahA~ para Ae~ haiN| dAdAzrI : vaha jJAna prApta karane kI janmojanma se icchA hotI hai, para usake lie saccA niyANAM (apanA sArA puNya lagAkara kisI eka vastu kI kAmanA karanA) nahIM kiyaa| yadi saccA niyANAM kiyA hogA to sArA hI puNya usameM hI kharca ho jAegA aura vaha vastu milegI hii| niyANAM kA svabhAva kyA hai ki ApakA jitanA puNya ho, vaha niyANAM ke lie kharca ho jAtA hai| to ApakA kitanA puNya ghara meM kharca huA, deha meM kharca huA, moTara-baMgalA, patnI-baccoM ke sukha meM kharca ho gayA hai| hama mAtra mokSa kA hI niyANAM lekara Ae haiM, isalie saba sIdhA cala rahA hai| hameM koI ar3acana nahIM aatii| niyANAM kA artha kyA ki eka hI dhyeya ho ki aisA hI cAhie, dUsarA kucha nahIM! niyANAM to mokSa meM jAne ke lie hI karane jaisA hai| dhyeya to zuddhAtmA kA aura niyANAM sirpha mokSa kaa| basa aura kucha bhI nahIM honA caahie| aba to bIr3A uThAnA hai, dRr3ha nizcaya rakhanA hai ki mokSa meM hI jAnA hai| vaha eka hI niyANAM karanA, tAki adhika janma nahIM hoN| eka-do janmoM meM chUTA jA ske| yaha saMsAra to jaMjAla hai sArA! jagaha para nahIM jAnA hai| sarvaduHkhoM se mukti, vaha pahalA mokSa hai aura phira saMsAra se mukti, vaha dUsarA mokSa! pahalA mokSa ho jAe, taba dUsarA mokSa sAmane aaegaa| pahalI mukti 'kaoNz2ez2a' ke rUpa meM hai aura dUsarI 'iphekTa' ke rUpa meM hai| kaoNjeja se mukti ho jAne ke bAda phira baccoM kI zAdI karavA sakate haiM, sabakucha ho sakatA hai, usameM bhI muktabhAva hotA hai aura iphekTa-mokSa abhI ho sake vaisA nahIM hai| kaoNjeja mokSa meM maiM khuda rahatA hU~ aura sabhI kArya hote haiN| jisa deha se muktatA kA bhAna ho jAe. usake bAda ekAdha deha dhAraNa karanA bAkI rahatA hai| kaThina, mokSamArga yA saMsAramArga? mokSamArga kaThina nahIM hotA. saMsAramArga kaThina hotA hai| eka bar3A Tenka bharakara pAnI ubAlanA ho to usameM kitanI-kitanI vastuoM kI jarUrata par3egI? use ubAlane meM kitanI mehanata lagegI? aura use vApisa ThaMDA karanA ho to kyA karanA cAhie? aba vahA~ vikalpa kare ki, 'kisa taraha ThaMDA hogA' to? hama jJAnI hoM taba usase kaheM ki, 'A~ca bujhAkara ArAma se so jaa|' vaha soce ki pAnI ko garama karane meM itanA samaya lagA, vaha kisa taraha jaldI se ThaMDA hogA? parantu pAnI kA svabhAva hI ThaMDA hai, isalie apane Apa ThaMDA ho jaaegaa| pAnI ko garama karanA arthAta use saMsAra svabhAva meM laanaa| 'svayaM' khuda ke svabhAva meM AnA, vaha mokSa kahalAtA hai aura vibhAva meM jAnA vaha saMsAra kahalAtA hai| yaha bhedajJAna karavAne ke lie jJAnI milane cAhie, tabhI kAma hogaa| nahIM to karor3oM janmoM taka bhI ThikAnA par3e aisA nahIM hai| saccA mumukSu kaisA hotA hai? zAstrakAroM ne sApha-sApha kahA hai ki mumukSu mahAtmA turanta 'jJAnI puruSa' ko pahacAna le, tabhI vaha saccA mamakSa hai| jise kevala mokSa kI hI icchA hai, use to turanta mokSadAtA 'jJAnI puruSa' kI pahacAna ho jAtI hai| parantu jise aura kucha icchAe~ haiM, mAna kI, kIrti kI, ziSyoM kI, usase mokSa, sthAna yA sthiti? praznakartA : lekina mujhe yaha jAnanA thA ki mokSa, jAne kI vastu hai, prApta karane kI vastu hai yA mokSa koI sthiti hai? dAdAzrI : mokSa to svabhAva hI hai khuda kaa| ApakA svabhAva hI mokSa hai, parantu svabhAva prApta karane ke lie kucha upAya karanA par3egA na? Apa ho mokSa svarUpa, parantu abhI Apa mokSasukha nahIM bhoga sakate ho, kyoMki usakA Apako bhAna nahIM hai| mokSa ke lie Apako kahIM kisI
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________________ (23) mokSa prApti, dhyeya 195 'jJAnI puruSa' pahacAne nahIM jaate| kyoMki bIca meM bhItara AvaraNa hote haiM use! 'jJAnI puruSa' to bahuta sarala hote haiN| AsAnI se pahacAne jA sakate haiN| yadi dekho ki 'kapar3e isa taraha kyoM pahanate hoMge?' vahIM se phira ulTA calA! AtmA abaMdha, kisa apekSA se? praznakartA : AtmA ko abaMdha (baMdhana rahita) kahate haiM, to mokSa kisakA? dAdAzrI : AtmA ke bAre meM to 'jJAniyoM' kI bhASA samajhI jAe to hala aae| logoM kI bhASA meM abaMdha alaga hai aura 'jJAniyoM' kI bhASA meM vaha alaga hai| yadi sarvajJa kI bhASA meM abaMdha samajha jAe to vaha pada prApta ho jAe aisA hai| sarvajJa kI bhASA meM to AtmA abaMdha hI hai, niraMtara mokSa svarUpa hI hai| yaha kabhI bhI baMdhA hI nhiiN| yaha sarvajJa kI bhASA hai| 'jaisA hai vaisA' 'phekTa' hai| yadi jarA-sI bhI zaMkA rahe ki khuda abhI taka baMdhA huA hai, taba use turanta hI cipttegaa| khuda nibaMdha hI hai, vaha bAta ni:zaMka hai| mokSa kisakA? praznakartA : mRtyu, mukti aura mokSa, ina tInoM meM kisa prakAra bheda kiyA jAe? dAdAzrI : 'Apa' yadi vAstava meM caMdUbhAI ho to mRtyu prApta karanevAle ho aura 'Apa' yadi ziva ho to mukti ho cukI hai aura mukti huI to usakA phala mokSa aaegaa| yahIM para makti ho jAnI caahie| merI mukti ho cukI hai| (24) mokSamArga kI pratIti mokSaprApti-mArgadarzana praznakartA : mumukSu-AtmA ko mokSa prApta karane ke lie kauna-se dharma kI jarUrata par3atI hai? dAdAzrI : Atmadharma kI jarUrata par3atI hai| praznakartA : kauna-se veSa meM mokSa milatA hai? dAdAzrI : veSa aura mokSa kA koI lenA-denA nahIM hai| naMgA ghUmatA ho yA kapar3e pahanakara ghUmatA ho, usameM koI harja nahIM hai| kisI bhI veSa meM mokSa mila sakatA hai| praznakartA: kauna-se sthAnaka meM mokSa milatA hai? dAdAzrI : vItarAga dharma se mokSa milatA hai| vItarAga sthAnaka meM mokSa milatA hai| praznakartA : kauna-sI dazA meM mokSa milatA hai? dAdAzrI : vItarAga dazA meM mokSa milatA hai| praznakartA : kauna-se saMpradAya meM, saMgha meM, phirake meM saccA dharma hai? saMpradAya hai, vaha kyA hai? usakI z2arUrata hai? dAdAzrI : sabhI saMpradAya aMza dharma hai, 'rileTiva' dharma hai| jahA~ pakSa hai vahA~ mokSa nahIM hai, vahA~ 'riyala' dharma nahIM hai| sampradAyoM meM saccA dharma nahIM hai, kyoMki ve ekAMtika haiN|
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________________ (24) mokSamArga kI pratIti 197 198 AptavANI-4 praznakartA : sadguru kI pahacAna kyA hai? dAdAzrI : sadguru vahI haiM ki jinheM rAta-dina AtmA kA upayoga ho, zAstra meM par3hI nahIM ho, kahIM bhI sanI nahIM ho, phira bhI anubhava meM Ae, vaisI jinakI apUrva vANI ho! praznakartA : ye hI sadguru haiM, vaha kisa taraha kaha sakeMge? dAdAzrI : yahA~ para ThaMDaka lage to samajhanA ki ye sadguru haiN| praznakartA : sadguru ke lakSaNa kyA haiM? dAdAzrI : kaSAya - krodha-mAna-mAyA-lobha rahita pariNAma ! praznakartA : isa kAla meM sadguru kahA~-kahA~ birAje hue haiM? dAdAzrI : ye Apake samakSa birAje hue haiN| praznakartA : sadguru ko prApta karane ke lie kyA karanA cAhie? dAdAzrI : parama viny| praznakartA : samyakatva, bIjajJAna athavA bodhabIja, ve dharma kA mUla mAne jAte haiM, to unakI prApti kisake mAdhyama se hogI? dAdAzrI : kaSAya rahita sadguru se! praznakartA : dharma kI utpatti yAnI ki dharma kisase hotA hai? huaa| kaSAya kama hoM to samajhanA ki dharma huaa| praznakartA : kisa prakAra dharma meM sthira huA jAe? dAdAzrI : upAdAna jAgRta karane se sthira huA jAtA hai| praznakartA : mokSa kA sarala upAya kyA hai? dAdAzrI : kaSAya rahita 'jJAnI puruSa' kI sevA se mokSamArga sarala ho jAtA hai| praznakartA : kauna-kauna se sAdhanoM se mokSa hotA hai? dAdAzrI : jJAna se mokSa hotA hai| sadjJAna se, AtmajJAna se mokSa hotA hai| mokSa - khuda apanA bhAna hone se praznakartA : jaba taka aMtara meM se, aMdara se AtmA kI pratIti nahIM ho, taba taka AtmA ke lie upakArI kyA hai? AtmA ko samajha meM AyA ki ye mana-vacana-kAyA aura sarva padArthoM se AtmA bhinna hai. vaise hI saMsArI kAryoM kA kartA-bhoktApana chUTe nahIM, taba taka dharma meM pravRti ke lie kyA kArya karane yogya hai? dAdAzrI : 'jJAnI' kI yadi pratIti ho gaI to AtmA kI pratIti hue bagaira rahegI hI nhiiN| AtmA kI pratIti hone ke bAda, usakA lakSya baiTha jAne ke bAda saMsArI kAryoM kA kartA-bhoktApana chUTa hI jAtA hai| saMsArI kArya to apane Apa hote hI rahate haiN| praznakartA : vyavahAra meM rahanA aura mokSamArga meM jAnA, ve donoM bAteM vartamAna paristhiti meM eka sAtha ho sakeM, vaisA saMbhava nahIM lagatA hai| dAdAzrI : saMbhava nahIM hai parantu anubhava meM Ae vaisI bAta hai| jaba Apako anubhava meM AegA taba samajha meM aaegaa| aise saMbhava nahIM lagatA, parantu anubhava meM Ae vaisI bAta hai| kyoMki donoM vastue~ alaga haiM aura jo vastue~ alaga hoM unakA bheda baratatA hai| logoM ko to aisA hI lagatA dAdAzrI : kaSAya rahita sadguru se! praznakartA : kauna-sI kriyA se athavA kyA karane se dharma hotA hai? dAdAzrI : jJAnakriyA se yA darzanakriyA se dharma hotA hai| praznakartA : dharma kA sAdhana kyA? dharma kise kahate haiM? dAdAzrI : dharma kA sAdhana, upAdAna jAgRta honA cAhie aura dharma kise kahate haiM? khuda ke kaSAya kama ho jAe~ to samajhanA ki dharma utpanna
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________________ (24) mokSamArga kI pratIti 199 200 AptavANI-4 hai ki AtmA, vahI 'maiM huuN'| ise AtmA kahanA galata hai| abhI 'maiM hU~' kahatA hai vaha 'mikenikala' AtmA hai| jo daraasala AtmA hai, vaha to isase alaga hai| vaha to hama jaba 'daraasala AtmA' kA bhAna karavAte haiM, taba usakA 'Apako' bhAna hotA hai| taba 'maiM' daraasala AtmA meM 'phiTa' ho jAtA hai| vastutva kA bhAna hone ke bAda 'maiM' mUla astitva meM phiTa ho jAtA hai| AtmA kA astitva, vastutva aura pUrNatva hai| astitva kA bhAna to sabhI ko hai, parantu vastutva kA bhAna nahIM hai, hama vastutva kA bhAna karavA dete haiM taba vaha 'khuda''khuda' meM phiTa ho jAtA hai, phira pUrNatva hotA rahatA hai| arthAt 'svayaM''apane' svabhAva meM aura pudgala usake svabhAva meM rahatA hai, prakRti, prakRti ke svabhAva meM aura puruSa, puruSa ke svabhAva meM rahatA hai! donoM alaga bAteM haiM, isalie phira bilkula alaga hI baratatA hai! 'jJAnI puruSa' meM anaMta prakAra kI siddhiyA~ hotI haiM, isalie aisA ho sakatA hai| unameM to bahuta prakAra kI siddhiyA~ hotI haiM. gaz2aba kI siddhiyA~ hotI haiN| kyoMki jinheM koI apekSA nahIM ho, unameM bahuta prakAra kI siddhiyA~ hotI haiN| praznakartA : mokSamArga meM vyavahAra bAdhA to DAlatA hai na? isa kAla ke manuSya pUrvavirAdhaka haiN| pUrvavirAdhaka arthAt kisIko parezAna karake Ae haiM! isalie to abhI taka bhaTake haiN| hameM deva-deviyoM kA ArAdhana isalie karanA hai ki unakI tarapha se koI klema nahIM rhe| apane mArga meM bIca meM ve aMtarAya nahIM DAleM aura hameM nikala jAne deM aura hailpa kreN| hamArA isa gA~va ke sAtha pahale jhagar3A huA ho aura isa gA~va ke logoM kI ArAdhanA ke bhAva rakheM to jhagar3A miTa jAtA hai aura balki kAma acchA hotA hai| usI taraha pUre jagat kI ArAdhanA se zAsana deva-deviyA~ hI nahIM, parantu jIva-mAtra kI ArAdhanA se acchA hotA hai| zAsana deva-deviyA~ niraMtara zAsana para, dharma para koI bhI ar3acana Ae, taba ve helpa karate haiM! aura yaha mokSamArga aisA hai ki yahA~ se DAyarekTa mokSa meM nahIM jAyA jA sakatA, eka-do janma bAkI rahate haiM, aisA yaha mArga hai| isa kAla meM yahA~ se DAyarekTa mokSa nahIM hotA hai| isa kAla kI vicitratA itanI adhika hai ki sAre karma kampresa karake lAe haiM, ve pUre dina plena meM ghUmeM to bhI kAma pUre nahIM hote, sAikila lekara ghUmeM, pUrA dina bhaTakate raheM, para kAma pUre nahIM hote| yAnI eka-do janma jitane karma bAkI rahate haiN| yAnI yaha mokSa hI kahalAegA na? parantu mokSa kA yahA~ para hI anubhava ho jAtA hai aura judApana kA bhAna hotA hai, 'maiM judA ho cukA hU~' aisA bhAna hotA hai| praznakartA : ApakI mAnyatA se ina jainoM kI cautha-pA~cama ke lie kauna-sI tithi saccI hai? cautha yA pA~cama? dAdAzrI : jo tujhe anukUla Ae vaha saccI, jisase tere dvArA dharma ho vaha saccI aura adharma ho vaha glt| praznakartA : jaina kise kahate haiM? dAdAzrI : jina arthAt AtmajJAnI aura jinezvara arthAt tIrthaMkara, jisane jina yA jinezvara kI vANI sunI ho vaha jain| jisane sunA, zraddhA meM liyA aura jitane aMzoM kA pAlana kiyA, vaha zrAvaka aura jisane saMpUrNa pAlana kiyA vaha saadhu| dAdAzrI : vAstava meM aisA kahanA cAhate haiM ki yadi vyavahAra bAdhaka hotA to ina sAdhuoM, saMnyAsiyoM, AcAryoM ne vyavahAra chor3a diyA hai, to aba unake lie hala A jAnA cAhie, aisA artha huaa| parantu aisA hotA nahIM hai| vAstava meM mokSa ke lie vyavahAra bAdhaka nahIM hai| mokSa meM vyavahAra bAdhA nahIM DAlatA, sirpha ajJAna hI bAdhaka hai| 'jJAnI puruSa' aisA acUka jJAna dete haiM ki turanta hI vartana meM A jAtA hai| jo jJAna kriyAkArI ho, vahI jJAna kahalAtA hai, bAkI saba jJAna nahIM hai| praznakartA : mokSamArga mukti kA mArga hai, usameM kucha bhI apekSA nahIM ho sktii| to phira isameM zAsana deva-deviyoM ko rAjI rakhane kI kyA z2arUrata hai? dAdAzrI : ina zAsana deva-deviyoM ko rAjI isalie rakhanA hai ki ////// ////
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________________ 202 AptavANI-4 (25) I & My 'maiM' kisa taraha alaga ho? hama lonAvAlA gae the taba eka jarmana 'kapala' mile the| kyA nAma thA unakA? praznakartA : susAna aura loidd| dAdAzrI: unase maiMne pUchA ki, 'Apako''1' meM DabanA hai yA 'Mv' meM DUbanA hai? ye '1' aura 'My' ke tAlAba haiN| unameM se '1' meM DUbA huA kabhI bhI marA nahIM aura 'My' meM DUbA huA kabhI bhI jIvita nahIM rhaa| taba unhoMne kahA ki, 'hameM to phira kabhI bhI nahIM mareM, vaisA honA hai|' taba unheM hamane aisA samajhAyA ki, 'deyara iz2a no varI ina Ai, DonTa varI phora maai| Ai iz2a immorTala, mAi iz2a morttl| isalie separeTa Ai enDa mAi!' ('maiM' meM koI ciMtA nahIM hai aura 'merA' kI ciMtA karane kI jarUrata nahIM hai| maiM amara hai, merA nAzavaMta hai| isalie Ai aura mAi ko alaga kara do|) Adhe ghaMTe meM to ve samajha gae aura khuza ho ge| praznakartA : parantu 'maiM' kisa taraha alaga samajha meM AegA? praznakartA : cNduubhaaii| dAdAzrI : 'Ai ema caMdUbhAI' aura 'mAi nema iz2a caMdUbhAI', yAnI ina donoM meM virodhAbhAsa nahIM lagatA? 'yaha caMdUbhAI to maiM hI huuN|' aisA bolate ho taba yaha hAtha bhI Apa hI ho? praznakartA : nahIM, hAtha to merA hai| dAdAzrI : dekho, yaha Apa jise 'I' mAnakara baiThe ho, usameM se pahale nAma nikAla do| phira bAhara kI jo-jo vastue~ alaga hI dikhatI haiM, ve nikAla do| yaha nAma hamase alaga hai, vaha anubhava meM AtA hai? jahA~-jahA~ 'My' Ae ve sabhI cIjeM nikAla dene jaisI haiN| 'I' aura 'My' do alaga hI haiM, ve kabhI bhI ekAkAra hote nhiiN| 'nAma' nikAla dene ke bAda This is my hand, This is my body, My eyes, My ears, ye sabhI avayava nikAlate jaao| sthUla sArA kama karane ke bAda My mind, My intellect, My Chit, My egoism (merA mana, merI buddhi, merA citta, merA ahaMkAra), saba nikAla do| My-My saba nikAla do to bAkI jo bacatA hai, vahI cetana hai| usa cetana ke alAvA kucha bhI nahIM rahanA caahie| My bhI pUrA pudgala hai, parAyA hai| 'I' & 'My' complete alaga hI hai | My is temporary adjustment and 'T' is permenant adjustment. praznakartA : 'My' ko nikAlane ke lie kyA karanA cAhie? dAdAzrI : Apako maiM karane kA rAstA batAU~, para Apase hogA nhiiN| yaha complex hai aura kAla vicitra hai| isalie Apako merI helpa lenI pdd'egii|'I' aura 'My' meM se Apa sArA hI nahIM nikAla skoge| dRSTigamya nikAla skoge| phira buddhigamya nikAla sakoge, parantu buddhigamya se Age jo hai, vaha nahIM nikAla skoge| vahA~ jJAnI kA hI kAma hai| aMtima sUkSmatama ahaMkAra Apase nahIM nikala skegaa| vahA~ hamArI z2arUrata pdd'egii| maiM Apako vaha saba alaga karake duuNgaa| phira Apako maiM zuddhAtmA hU~ vaisA Experience hotA rhegaa| anubhava honA caahie| aura sAtha-sAtha divyacakSu bhI detA hU~, dAdAzrI : ApakA nAma kyA hai? praznakartA : cNduubhaaii| dAdAzrI : Apa kauna ho?
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________________ (25) I & My 203 204 AptavANI-4 tAki Atmavat sarvabhUteSu dikhe| 'jJAnI' hI maulika spaSTIkaraNa deM 'I' aura 'My' ke bIca meM Demarcation line (bhedarekhA) to DAlanI par3egI na? eka Spiritual adjustment (AdhyAtmika eDajasTamenTa) aura dUsarA Mechanical adjustment (bhautika eDajasTamenTa), aise donoM alaga-alaga karane pdd'eNge| nahIM to apanA deza kauna-sA aura videza kaunasA usakA kisa taraha patA calegA? yaha Line of demarcation nahIM DAlI, isIlie to roz2a ke jhagar3e hote rahate haiN| mAlikIbhAva hai| faoNrena ke loga punarjanma DhUMDhate phirate haiN| unheM maiM kahatA hU~ ki isake badale meM 'I' aura 'My' seperate haiM aisA DhUMDha nikAlo na! My birth aura My death kahate haiM na? aura Trena meM bhI My berth (merI jagaha) kahate haiM na?(!) vyavahAra meM 'My' bolA jAtA hai, parantu vaha DrAmeTika honA caahie| 'T' ko nikAlakara bolanA caahie| 'My' bhogane ke lie hai, parantu reinvite (vApisa bulAne) ke lie nahIM hai| Complete happiness belongs to 'T' without My'. (saMpUrNa sukha bagaira 'mere 'vAle 'maiM' meM hai|) 'My'is complete mechanical. 'I' is not mechanical. 'I' is absolute. ('merA' pUrNataH bhautika hai| 'maiM' bhautika nahIM hai| 'maiM' kevalajJAna sthiti hai|) 'My' ko kudarata sabhI madada detI hai| isalie 'My' meM hAtha mata ddaalnaa| sirpha dekhate hI rhnaa| mazIna ko tela, pAnI, vAya, milatI hI rhegii| aura phira TesTaphula milegA, 'phrI oNpha kaoNsTa' milegaa| saMsAra meM apane 'I' kA vajana 'My' khA jAtA hai, ''kA pA~ca pAunDa aura 'My' kA lAkha pAunDa ho gayA hai| 'My' kA vajana yadi kama ho taba 'I' kA vajana bddh'egaa| ___ 'I' bhagavAna hai aura 'My' mAyA hai| 'My' vaha mAyA hai| 'My' is relative to 'I'.'T' is real. AtmA ke guNoM kA isa '1' meM AropaNa karo, taba bhI ApakI zaktiyA~ bahuta bar3ha jaaeNgii| mUla AtmA jJAnI ke binA nahIM mila sktaa| parantu ye 'I' and 'My' are complete seperate. aisA sabhI ko, faoNrena ke logoM ko bhI yadi samajha meM A jAe to unakI parezAniyA~ bahuta kama ho jaaeNgii| yaha bAta faoNrena ke sAinTisToM ko jaldI samajha meM A jaaegii| yaha sAinsa hai| akrama vijJAna kI yaha AdhyAtmika research kA bilkula nayA hI tarIkA hai| 'I' and 'My' bilkula alaga hI hai| 'I' vaha svAyatta bhAva hai aura 'My' vaha
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________________ 206 AptavANI-4 par3hAI meM inTaresTa nahIM hai aura dUsarA saba bahuta yAda rahatA hai, use jisameM bahuta inTaresTa ho vh| jise jisameM rAga adhika usakA vaha eksaparTa ho jAtA hai| mujhe adhyAtma para rAga thA, isalie maiM adhyAtma meM eksaparTa ho gayA! (26) smRti - rAga-dveSAdhIna tIvra smRti, vahA~ tIvra rAga-dveSa kala kauna-sA vAra hai, hameM vaha bhI yAda nahIM hotA. phira bhI jagata calatA hai| kisIse pUche taba to tIna loga bola uThate haiM ki ravivAra hai| yAda rakhanevAle bahuta sAre loga haiN| vItarAga kise kahA jAegA? AtmA ke alAvA dUsarA kucha bhI yAda hI nahIM Ae, AtmA aura AtmA ke sAdhana ke alAvA dUsarA kucha bhI yAda hI nahIM rhe| kucha ko zAstroM para bahuta rAga hotA hai, isalie unheM zAstroM kI jabaradasta smRti hotI hai| isameM AtmA para rAga ho jAe to dUsarI saba jagaha, saMsAra meM vismRti kahalAtI hai| smRti-vismRti, karanA muzkila praznakartA : paMdraha varSoM taka kucha bhI mujhe yAda nahIM AyA aura Aja A gayA, vaha kyA kahalAtA hai? vaha kauna-sA rAga-dveSa kahalAtA hai? dAdAzrI : vaha rAga-dveSa para AdhArita hai| kucha bAtoM meM aisA hotA hai ki vaha satata yAda AtI hI rahatI hai aura kucha aisI hotI hai ki unakA kAla paripakva ho taba phala dete rahate haiN| jitanI smRti gaI, utane vItarAga he| vItarAga ko kisI bhI prakAra kI smRti nahIM hotii| jagat kI vismRti ko hI mokSa kahA hai| smaraNazakti ke lie pUrA jagat prayatna karatA hai, parantu smaraNazakti nAma kI koI zakti nahIM hai| smaraNazakti, vaha rAga-dveSa ke kAraNa hai| mujhe rAga-dveSa nahIM hai isIlie mujhe smaraNazakti nahIM hai| abhI hameM hamArI smRti para se patA calatA hai ki isa jagaha para rAga hai aura isa jagaha para dveSa hai| isalie hI to logoM ne jagat vismRta karane ke lie khoja kI hai| praznakartA : pahale naMbara se pAsa ho use rAga-dveSa bahuta haiM, aisA kahA jAtA hai? praznakartA : kucha bhI yAda rakhanA AsAna hai, parantu vismRta karanA muzkila hai, usakA kyA kAraNa hai? dAdAzrI : yAda rakhanA bhI sarala nahIM hai aura vismRta karanA bhI sarala nahIM hai, donoM kaThina haiN| jise yAda nahIM rahatA ho use yAda karanA bahuta muzkila lagatA hai| taba usa cIz2a ko use vismRta karanA bahuta AsAna hI hotA hai na! aura jisakI yAda bahuta AtI ho, usakI vismRti lAnI bahuta muzkila ho jAtI hai| praznakartA : jagat kisa taraha vismRta kareM? bhaleM kaise? vaha eka prazna hai| dAdAzrI : use jisameM inTaresTa adhika ho, usameM adhika mArksa Ate haiN| itihAsa meM rAga ho to usameM adhika mArksa Ate haiN| kitane hI baccoM ko par3hAI meM kucha bhI yAda nahIM rhtaa| vaha hama jAnate haiM ki use dAdAzrI : jagat eka ghaMTA bhI vismRta ho sake aisA nahIM hai| eka ghaMTe jagat vismRta karane ke lie hajAroM rupayA kharca kare to bhI vaha vismRta ho, aisA nahIM hai| taraha-taraha kA yAda AtA hai| bhojana karate samaya jo
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________________ 208 AptavANI-4 (26) smRti - rAga-dveSAdhIna 207 bImAra ho vahI priyajana yAda Ate haiM, are, tU kisalie yAda AyA? arthAt smRti hI duHkha detI hai| praznakartA : parantu phira aisI zaMkA hotI hai ki jagat vismRta rahe to selsaTaiksa, inkamaTaiksa ke kesa kA nikAla kisa taraha kareMge? usameM musIbata par3egI na? dAdAzrI : vaisA nahIM hai| jagat vismRta rahe aura saMsAra ke kAma hoM, aisA hai| balki bahuta acchI taraha, sahaja rUpa se hoM, vaisA hai| jJAnI kI smRti yaha smati hI pIr3A utpanna karatI hai| yaha jJAna hone se pahale mujhe bahuta hI smRti thI, z2abaradasta smRti thI, vaha mujhe bahuta pIr3A detI thI, rAta ko sone bhI nahIM detI thii| usakA hisAba nikAlA ki kisa jagaha para du:kha hai? parantu aise dekho to hara prakAra se hama sukhI the, parantu isa smRti kA apAra duHkha thaa| hameM yAda bahuta rahatA thA, eTa e TAima sabakucha yAda rahatA thA, parantu smRti paudgalika vastu hai, cetana nahIM hai| phira jJAna hone ke bAda dikhane lgaa| smRtivAlA darzana nahIM, parantu yathArtha darzana huaa| praznakartA : Apa kahate haiM ki Apako smRti nahIM hai, parantu Aja se dasa varSa pahale Apane kisI ghaTanA yA udAharaNa diyA ho, vaha Aja phira se Apake mukha se sunate haiM taba ekjekTalI usI prakAra se, usI liMka meM, eka-eka zabda kramabaddha Tepa kI taraha nikalatA hai, vaha kyA hogA? vaha kauna-sI zakti hai? ___hamAre pAsa pUchane AnevAloM kI phAila jA~ca karake javAba dene par3ate haiN| isase pahale kyA bAta kI thI, abhI kyA hai, una sabhI kanekzana meM javAba hotA hai| hara eka kI phAila alaga-alaga hai| isalie javAba alaga-alaga hotA hai| javAba usakI phAila ke adhIna hotA hai| aba koI kahegA ki, 'dAdA, Apa eka hI prakAra kA javAba sabako kyoM nahIM dete?' are, aisA nahIM hai| hara eka kI phAila alaga-alaga hai, hara eka ke roga alaga-alaga hai| isalie hamAre pAsa zIziyA~ alaga-alaga aura davAI bhI alaga-alaga hotI hai| hara eka ke kSayopazama alaga-alaga hote haiN| hamArI saiddhAMtika bAta meM kahIM bhI parivartana nahIM hotaa| use to tInoM kAla meM koI bhI kATa nahIM sakatA, vaisI hotI haiN| ina vyavahArika praznoM kA hala hara eka nimitta ke adhIna hotA hai| Apa mujhe jo yAda karavAte ho na, vaha sabakucha mujhe dikhatA hai| vyApAra kA bhI hameM hamAre kanubhAI kucha pUche, taba sabakucha hI dikhatA hai| pula dikhatA hai, usake sAre khaMbhe dikhate haiM, kahA~ kyA hai aura kyA nahIM, vaha sabakucha dikhatA hai| yAda karavAo taba upayoga kendrita karate haiM aura usase sabakucha kramabaddha dikhatA hai| praznakartA : arthAt upayoga se dikhatA hai na? dAdAzrI : yAda karavAe taba upayoga vahIM jAtA hai| kyoMki vaha upayoga udhara nahIM jAe to vyavahAra sArA TUTa jaaegaa| prazasta rAga, mokSa kA kAraNa samaya Ae usa ghar3I sabakucha hI yAda A jAtA hai| abhI hameM satsaMga ke Upara rAga hai, isalie satsaMga kA samaya ho taba jAne kA yAda AtA hai| mahAtmAoM para rAga rahatA hai| ina sabhI rAgoM ko prazasta rAga kahA jAtA hai| ye baMdhana nahIM karavAte, parantu mahAvideha kSetra ke lie baMdhana karavAte haiN| mahAvideha kSetra meM zrI sImaMdhara svAmI ke pAsa jAnA hai sabhI ko| isalie abhI se unheM pahacAna lenA ho to pahacAna lenaa| isalie to hama unake bhajana gavAte rahate haiN| dAdAzrI : rAga-dveSa ke adhIna smRti hai| isalie usameM ekjekTa nahIM hotaa| hamAre mukha se jo nikalatA hai vaha darzana ke AdhAra para nikalatA hai, isalie ekjekTa hotA hai| hameM saba dikhatA hai| bacapana meM cAra varSa kA thA taba se abhI taka kA sArA hI dekha sakatA hU~, hameM yAda nahIM karanA pdd'taa| isa taraha caudaha sAla kI umra kA dekhU to vaha dikhatA hai, bIsa sAla kI umra kA dekhU to vaha dikhatA hai|
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________________ (26) smRti rAga-dveSAdhIna 209 praznakartA hameM ye 'dAdA' yAda Ate haiM, vaha? dAdAzrI : vaha prazasta rAga hai| prazasta rAga vItarAga banAnevAlA hai| usImeM rAga karane jaisA hai! saba jagaha se rAga uThA-uThAkara isameM hI rAga karanA hai / Atmahetu ke lie rAga aura dehAdhyAsa ke lie rAga ina donoM meM bahuta pharka hai| Atmahetu ke prati mamatA aura AtmA kI mamatA hai| aM meM vaha mukti dilavAtI hai| kucha jar3a jaise hote haiM, unheM bhI smRti nahIM hotii| samakita rahita vismRti jar3atA kahalAtI hai| bhojana adhika ho, sotA rahe, pramAdI rahe, usase dimAg2a Dala rahatA hai| vaha adhogati meM le jAtA hai| yAda? kitanA bar3A parigraha ! parigraha kise kahate haiM? jo yAda AtA rahe use aMgUThI U~galI meM hai yA nahIM, gira gaI hai yA nahIM, vaha bhI yAda nahIM Ae to usakA nAma aparigrahI / tyAga karane se aparigrahI nahIM bnte| tyAga karane jAe~ to adhika yAda AtA rahatA hai| ////////// (27) nikhAlisa nikhAlisatA nirbhaya banAe tU pustaka nahIM par3hegA aura kucha nahIM samajhegA to bhI mujhe Apatti nahIM hai, parantu tU nikhAlisa bana, saccA nikhAlisa bn| phira nikhAlisa ko zobhA de, vaisA sArA jJAna apane Apa hI udbhava ho jaaegaa| praznakartA: vyavahAra meM nikhAlisa hoM to bahuta takalIpha hotI hai| dAdAzrI : nikhAlisa koI ho hI nahIM sakatA na! AtmajJAna hone ke bAda hI nikhAlisa banate haiN| praznakartA: nikhAlisa hoM to vyavahAra meM buddha mAne jAte haiN| dAdAzrI : buddha nikhAlisa hote hI nhiiN| loga buddha ko hI nikhAlisa kahate haiN| nikhAlisa to alaga hI hotA hai| hara eka viSaya meM vaha nikhAlisa hotA hai, eka-do meM nhiiN| praznakartA: nikhAlisa ke bAre meM z2arA spaSTa samajhAie / dAdAzrI : nikhAlisa yAnI ekadama pyora manuSya hotA hai| vaha manuSya, manuSya nahIM hotA, suparahyumana ho tabhI nikhAlisa ho sakatA hai| nikhAlisa to ekadama pyora, TrAnsaperenTa jaisA hotA hai| use eka bhI vicAra impyora nahIM aataa| vaisA to hotA hI nahIM na kahIM bhI svarUpajJAna milane ke bAda dhIre-dhIre vaisA banatA jAtA hai| praznakartA: vyavahAra meM nikhAlisa manuSya kA loga galata phAyadA uThAte haiM na?
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________________ (27) nikhAlisa 211 212 AptavANI-4 ho jAe, taba asAmAnya banatA hai| sAmAnya manuSya lAcArI bhI anubhava karatA hai, tIna dinoM taka bhUkhA rakhe to lAcArI anubhava karatA hai| isalie asAmAnya bneN| phira to khuda ke sukha kI sImA nahIM rhegii| abhI koI bar3A vyakti Apako dikhe to Apako laghutAgraMthi utpanna hotI hai, Apa ekadama prabhAvita ho jAte ho| are! vo sAmAnya vyakti hI hai, phira usase kyA prabhAvita honA? nikhAlisa ho gae arthAt duniyA kA koI bhI Dara rakhane kI z2arUrata hI nahIM hotii| usakA to oTomeTikalI rakSaNa hotA rahatA hai, usakA koI bhakSaNa kara hI nahIM sktaa| svarUpajJAna milane ke bAda usakI pUrNa dazA utpanna hogI, taba koI bhI bhakSaNa nahIM kara sakegA, koI nAma bhI nahIM de skegaa| dAdAzrI : nhiiN| jo galata phAyadA lene AyA hogA, vaha sau phuTa dUra se hI aMdara nahIM A skegaa| usakI zakti hI TUTa jAegI, phrekcara ho jaaegii| praznakartA : nikhAlisa arthAt sva-svarUpa meM rahe vaha? dAdAzrI : sva-svarUpa meM to hama jJAna deM to Apa bhI rahate ho, parantu vaha nikhAlisatA nahIM khlaatii| nikhAlisa ko saMsAra kA eka bhI vicAra nahIM AtA, hRdaya ekadama pyora hotA hai| Apako abhI bhI vicAra Ate haiM, unameM tanmayAkAra ho jAte ho| ghara ke vicAra Ae~, vyApAra ke Ae~, viSayoM ke Ae~, dUsare sabhI prakAra ke vicAra Ae~, taba taka manuSya TrAnsaperenTa nahIM ho sktaa| praznakartA : nikhAlisa manuSya ko kisake vicAra Ate haiM? dAdAzrI : unheM vicAra hI nahIM hote| unakA mana ghUmatA hI rahatA hai| samaya-samaya arthAt samayavartI ho cukA hotA hai| nikhAlisa puruSa kI siddhiyA~ asIma hotI haiN| parantu ve unakA upayoga nahIM krte| aMta meM Apako bhI aisA hI nikhAlisa honA par3egA na? eka nibaMdha likhakara lAnA ki kisalie jIvana jInA hai! usake pojiTiva-negeTiva sabhI sAiDa likhakara laanaa| hameM pragati to karanI par3egI na? aise sAmAnya vyakti kI taraha kaba taka baiThe raheMge? mujhe terahaveM varSa meM asAmAnya hone kA vicAra AyA thaa| sAmAnya arthAt sabjIbhAjI, vaisA mujhe lagA thaa| sAmAnya vyakti ko jo takalIpha par3atI hai, vaisI koI takalIpha asAmAnya manuSya ko nahIM pdd'tii| sAmAnya manuSya kisIko helpa nahIM kara sktaa| jaba ki asAmAnya manuSya helpa ke lie hI hotA hai| isalie hI use jagat eksepTa karatA hai| praznakartA : asAmAnya manuSya kI paribhASA kyA hai? dAdAzrI : asAmAnya arthAt khuda jagat ke sabhI logoM ko, hara eka jIva-mAtra ke lie helpaphula ho jaae| khuda svataMtra ho jAe, prakRti se para
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________________ 214 AptavANI-4 (28) mukta hAsya jitanI saralatA utanA mukta hAsya dAdAzrI : ApakI umra kitanI huI? praznakartA : sttr| dAdAzrI : dekho na, isa umra meM mere sAmane dekhakara ha~sa rahe haiM ki jaise bAlaka ha~sa rahA ho| yaha saralatA kahalAtI hai| kyA sabake pAsa se hAsya chIna liyA hai? ha~sA kyoM nahIM jAtA? taba kahe, asaralatA hai| isalie hama use kyA kahate haiM, ki 'bhAI, yahA~ satsaMga meM roz2a baiThe rahanA', aisA karate-karate asaralatA calI jAegI, aisA karate-karate hAsya khula jaaegaa| isa AratI meM hAsya khulatA hai isalie maiM rAstA karavAtA haiN| hAsya to nAbhi meM se phUTanA caahie| yaha to yahA~ para gale meM se hI ha~sate haiM, usakA kyA kAraNa hai? aMdara mala bharA huA hai islie| AratI meM sAre mala nikala jAte haiN| praznakartA : mukta hAsya kise kaheMge? dAdAzrI : Apane mukta hAsya dekhA hai? praznakartA : ApakA hAsya dekhA hai na? dAdAzrI : yaha Apako mukta lagatA hai? praznakartA : hA~, bilkula vItarAga hAsya lagatA hai| dAdAzrI : yahI mukta hAsya kahalAtA hai| praznakartA : hamArA hAsya muktahAsya ho vaise saMyoga haiM, phira vaha kisalie rukA huA hai? dAdAzrI : Apake bhItara sAre bhUta bhare hue haiM, isalie vaha rukA huA hai| mukta puruSa ke sivAya koI vaha nahIM nikalavA sktaa| mukta puruSa apane mukta hAsya se Apako mukta hAsya meM le Ate haiN| bhItara taraha-taraha ke Agraha rahe hue hote haiM, isalie rone ke TAima para rotA nahIM aura ha~sane ke TAima para ha~satA nahIM hai| hAsya kisalie AtA hai? ye bUDhe cAcA adhika kyoM ha~sate haiM? nirdoSatA hai isalie, sarala haiM islie| sarala arthAt jaise mor3o vaise mur3a jAe~, sone kI trh| unheM eka hI ghaMTe meM jaisA AkAra denA ho vaisA ho sakatA hai| praznakartA : yAnI nirdoSatA bar3he taba hAsya bar3hatA hai? dAdAzrI : hA~, vaha nirdoSatA kA hI guNa hai| Aja ke eTikeTavAle (ziSTAcAravAle) loga jo Tebala para ha~sakara khAnA khAte haiM, vaha saba polizDa kahalAtA hai| vaha phira naI hI prakAra kA, tRtiyama kahalAtA hai| aisA banAvaTI ha~se, usake badale to mu~ha laTakAkara baiThanA acchaa| banAvaTI bole usake badale to kama bole to acchaa| ye cAcA jaba se Ae haiM, taba se hI unake bhItara naI hI prakAra kA anokhA AnaMda ho rahA hai| vaha maiM akelA hI jAnatA hU~ aura ve jAnate haiN| kyoMki sarala haiM, isalie hamAre darzana se hI unheM AnaMda ho gyaa| mukta hAsya, mukta puruSa kA 'jJAnI puruSa' niraMtara mukta avasthA meM hote haiM, isalie sAmanevAle kA bhI aMtara khula jAtA hai! hamArA mana mukta rahatA hai, kisI avasthA meM eka kSaNa bhI vaha baMdhatA nhiiN| 'jJAnI puruSa' ke darzana se hI saba ullAsa meM A jAte haiN| aura usase to kitane hI karma naSTa ho jAte haiN| saMpUrNa vItarAga bhagavAna ke alAvA aura kisIkA bhI karma rahita
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________________ (28) mukta hAsya 215 hAsya nahIM hotA hai| vaha isa kAla meM prakaTa huA hai, akrama vijJAna ke 'jJAnI puruSa' ke pAsa prakaTa huA hai - kAma nikAla de aisA hai, sarvasva karma bhasmIbhUta kara de aisA hai! 'jJAnI puruSa' ko jaba dekho, rAta ke do baje dekho, taba bhI eka hI prakAra kA mukta hAsya hotA hai! jaba ki dUsaroM ke hAsya kaSAyoM se staMbhita ho cuke hote haiN| praznakartA : vairAga A jAe to usase mukta hAsya ruka jAtA hai? dAdAzrI : vairAga meM to udAsInatA AtI hai| udAsInatA adhUrI kahalAtI hai, mukta hAsya pUrNa kahalAtA hai| praznakartA : Apake sAtha bAta karate-karate hameM kabhI mukta rUpa se ha~sanA A jAtA hai, vaha mukta hAsya kahalAtA hai? dAdAzrI : hA~, usa samaya mukta ho jAtA hai| aise karake prekTisa ho jAtI hai, nahIM to ye 'dAdA bhagavAna ke asIma jaya jayakAra ho' vaisA hameM kisalie karane kI z2arUrata hai? usa samaya bhItara kA kacarA nikalatA hai aura mukta hote ho| (29) ciMtA : samatA bhUtakAla, abhI kauna yAda karatA hai? praznakartA : kala kI ciMtA nahIM kareM to kaise calegA? dAdAzrI : kala hotA hI nahIM hai| kala to kisIne dekhA hI nahIM duniyA meN| jaba dekho taba Aja hI hotA hai| kala to muzkiloM ke sAdhana kI taraha hai| bIte hue kala kA artha jo kAla jA cukA hai, vaha hai| bhUtakAla kA matalaba bItA huA kl| yAnI AnevAle kala kI ciMtA karanI z2arUrI hI nahIM hai| praznakartA : to pahale se hI TikiTa kisalie kharIdate haiM? dAdAzrI : vaha to eviDensa hai| vaha saca na bhI ho kbhii| yaha Apa progrAma nahIM banAte ki paccIsavIM tArIkha ko muMbaI jAnA hai, aTThAisavIM tArIkha ko bar3audA jAnA hai? una sabakA Apako viz2ana hai hii| usa viz2ana ke kAraNa hI Apa yathArtha rUpa se nahIM dekhate ho| Apa isa taraha ke hakabakAe hue vijana se hI dekhate ho| yathArtha vijana meM Apa sthiratA meM rahakara dekha sakate ho| niyama aisA hai ki eka bAunDrI taka Apa dekho to Apako yathArtha viz2ana milegA aura usa bAunDrI se Age Aja dekhoge to abhI Thokara khA jaaoge| jisakI z2arUrata nahIM hai use dekhanA mt| hama ghar3I ke sAmane dekhate hI raheM to balki yahA~ para Thokara lgegii| isalie isa viz2ana meM kucha hada taka kA hI dekha-dekhakara calanA caahie| jahA~ kala nAma kI koI vastu hI nahIM usakA artha hI kyA? jo kAla cala rahA hai, vaha Aja hai aura bIte hue kAla ko kala kahate haiM,
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________________ (29) ciMtA: samatA vaha bhUtakAla hai| bhUtakAla ko to koI mUrkha bhI yAda nahIM karatA aura AnevAlA kala to 'vyavasthita' ke hAtha meM hai| isalie vartamAna meM raho, sirpha vartamAnakAla meM hI rho| parasattA adhikAra, ciMtA ko janma de jisa ghara meM ciMtA hotI hai, vahA~ para sabhI muzkileM AtI hI rahatI hai| ciMtA ahaMkAra hai| yaha saba calAne kI Apake hAtha meM sattA hai kucha? jisakI sattA hai usakI sattA yadi hama le leM to phira vaha hAtha nahIM ddaalegaa| isalie Apa usa sattA para chor3a do| praznakartA: ciMtA nahIM ho usake lie kyA karanA cAhie? dAdAzrI : vApisa lauTanA cAhie, yA phira igoiz2ama khatma karanA caahie| yaha to 'jJAnI puruSa' ho aura jJAna deM to ciMtA rahe hI nhiiN| yaha ciMtA karane kA phala kyA hai? 217 praznakartA: vaha mAlUma nhiiN| dAdAzrI : ciMtA kA phala jAnavaragati hai| ciMtA, ebova normala igoiz2ama hai| praznakartA: mujhe ciMtA to bahuta rahatI hai| dAdAzrI : Apako thor3I ciMtA hai, isalie to Apako yahA~ Ane kA samaya bhI milaa| ina seTha logoM ko to saMDAsa jAne kA bhI samaya nahIM miltaa| itanI sArI ciMtAe~ ho gaI haiN| do mileM ho gaI, aba tIsarI banAnI hai! lobha, lobha aura lobha / Apane kaba taka ikaTThA karane kA nakkI kiyA hai? dasa lAkha rupaye ? praznakartA: jitanA adhika mile utanA acchaa| dAdAzrI : abhI taka ApakA pUrA hI nahIM huA? ye kAle bAla badalakara sapheda ho gae, phira bhI pUrA nahIM hotA? isalie yaha dag2A hai| aba cupacApa usakA pIchA chor3a do aura caina se cAya-nAztA karo, bhojana 218 karo aura phira kAmadhaMdhA karo! AptavANI-4 ciMtA, saphalatA kA avarodhaka yaha ciMtA karane se hara eka kAma dera se hotA hai| yahA~ bAhara nikalakara subaha kaba hogI, kaba hogI aise ciMtA karate hue pUrI rAta baiThe raho to subaha jaldI ho jAegI? balki dera se hogii| usake badale to or3hakara so jA na / ciMtA se kAma Age khisaka jAtA hai| sabz2I milegI yA nahIM milegI, usakI ciMtA kare to vaha bhI nahIM milegii| jisakA upAya nahIM usakI ciMtA kyA? maraNa kA upAya nahIM hai, isalie usakI koI ciMtA karatA hai? ciMtA ho taba Apa kyA karate ho? praznakartA: Izvara smaraNa / dAdAzrI : ApakA koI mitra ApakI binA pahacAnavAlA hai? praznakartA: nahIM, parantu pahacAna ke binA to mitratA kisa taraha hogI? dAdAzrI : vaise hI binA pahacAne bhagavAna kA smaraNa kisa taraha ho sakatA hai? ciMtA hone lage to samajha lo ki kArya bigar3anevAlA hai aura ciMtA nahIM ho to samajhanA ki kArya bigar3anevAlA nahIM hai| ciMtA kArya meM avarodhaka hai| ciMtA se vyApAra bigar3a jAtA hai| praznakartA : yaha ciMtA kisalie hotI hai? dAdAzrI : Aropita bhAva hai ki, 'maiM caMdUbhAI hU~', islie| 'riyala' svarUpa ko nahIM jAnate haiM, isalie ciMtA kaba hotI hai? mana meM vicAra Ae~ aura unameM tanmayAkAra ho jAe taba vicAra jar3a haiM aura khuda cetana hai| jar3a-cetana kA miksacara ho jAe, taba ciMtA hotI hai| ciMtA mana kA
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________________ (29) ciMtA : samatA 219 220 AptavANI-4 'jJAnI' ke sAMnidhya meM kaisI nirAkulatA! pariSaha hai| pariSaha arthAt vedanA khar3I hotI hai| ciMtA nahIM ho usake lie nakkI kara ki mana ke vicAra sUkSma saMyoga haiM, ve 'jJeya haiM' aura 'maiM jJAtA haiN'| vicAra to Ae~ge parantu unakA pratikramaNa karanA pdd'egaa| yA phira unheM nirmAlya kara denA pdd'egaa| jise vicAra Ate haiM, vaha nirjIva bhAga hai| vicAra kie ki aMtarAya pdd'e| jo zakti hamArI nahIM hai, vahA~ hAtha kyoM DAleM? yaha 'akramajJAna' hama deM, phira ciMtA ho to hamAre Upara korTa meM vakIla rakhakara dAvA karanA, aisI gAranTI dete haiN| saMsAra kI ciMtAe~ gaIM yAnI prathama mokSa huaa| phira pahale ke jo hisAba haiM ve cuka jAe~, vaha dUsarA mokss| dUsarA mokSa arthAt puurnnaahuti| bhrAMti meM zAMti rahatI hai? isa jagat meM zAMti kisa taraha rahe? karor3a rupaye hoM to bhI nahIM rhe| jahA~ bhrAMti hai, vahA~ zAMti kaisI? praznakartA : yaha zAMti hamezA kyoM nahIM rahatI. itanA-itanA dharma karane ke uparAMta bhI? dAdAzrI : kyoMki Apa niraMtara acetana meM rahate ho| cetana meM raho tabhI niraMtara sukha raha sakatA hai| praznakartA : zAMti prApta karane ke lie kauna-se prayatna karane cAhie? dAdAzrI : jisameM prayatna karanA par3e usameM zAMti hotI hI nahIM, vaha to uThApaTaka hai| jagat meM aneka prakAra kI zAMti hotI hai, parantu ve saba mUrchita zAMti aura AtmazAMti to kisI bhI prakAra kI mUrchA se rahita zAMti hotI hai| AtmazAMti se tRpti hotI hai aura mUrchita zAMti se tRpti nahIM hotii| azAMti gaI aura zAMti AI taba se hI samajhanA ki karma baMdhane ruka gae haiM, usake bAda hI aMta aaegaa| ekabAra hama 'vihAra leka' para ghUmane gae the| vahA~ zayadA sAhaba, unake eka musalamAna mitra ki jo korporeTara the, unheM darzana karavAne le aae| unakI bIvI-bacce saba Ae the, ve vyakti bahuta vicArazIla aura auliyA jaise vyakti the| ve nIce miTTI meM baiThate the to kisIne kahA, "nIce cIMTiyA~ kATeMgI, isalie 'dAdA' ke pAsa meM baitthie|' taba unhoMne kahA, 'dAdA kI hAz2irI meM cIMTiyA~ kaise kATeMgI?' phira unheM hamane hamAre pAsa baitthaayaa| dasa miniTa bAda bole, 'maiM dharma kI itanI sArI jagahoM para ghUmA hU~, parantu mujhe ina dasa miniToM meM jo zAMti ho gaI, vaisI kahIM bhI nahIM huii| to isakA kyA kAraNa hogA?' taba maiMne unase kahA, "isakA dUsarA koI kAraNa nahIM hai| Apa abhI allAha ke khUba naz2adIka baiThe ho| allAha ke najadIka jAe~ to sukha-zAMti nahIM hogI? allAha 'mere' ekadama naz2adIka saTakara hI baiThe hue haiM aura Apa mere pAsa baiThe ho| yAnI bilkula naz2adIka A gae na? phira kaisI zAMti barategI!" 'jJAnI puruSa' ke pAsa to keza DipArTamenTa hai| 'disa ija da keza baiMka oNpha DivAina solyuzana (yaha to alaukika samAdhAnoM kA naqada baiMka hai)|' jisakA puNya jAge vaha mujhe mila jAtA hai aura usakA kAma ho jAtA hai| praznakartA : AnaMda, zAMti kise kahate haiM? dAdAzrI : zAMti 'rileTiva' meM hotI hai aura paramAnaMda pUrNatva meM hotA hai| paramAnaMda arthAt prmtRpti| isa deha ke hisAba bhI cuka jAte haiM taba tRpti, paramAnaMda rahatA hai| deha kA bojha hai, taba taka tRpti nahIM rhtii| samatA, vahA~ rAga-dveSa nahIM samatA bahuta bar3I cIz2a hai| ghara para patnI bolI ho aura suna le, use loga samatA kahate haiN| parantu vaha samatA nahIM khlaatii| bhItara ajapA (becainI, azAMti, ghabarAhaTa) hotA rahatA hai use samatA kaise kahA jAe?
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________________ (29) ciMtA : samatA 221 222 AptavANI-4 samatA kise kahate haiM ki phUla car3hAe to usa para rAga nahIM yA phira gAliyA~ de usa para dveSa nahIM, use samatA kahate haiN| zubha ho yA azubha ho, donoM ko samAna maane| zubhAzubha meM rAga-dveSa nahIM ho, vaha samatA hai| isa prakAra se samAna to vItarAga hI mAna sakate haiN| samabhAva-samatA, pharka kyA? praznakartA : samatA aura samabhAva meM kyA pharka hai? dAdAzrI : bahuta pharka hai| samabhAva matalaba kyA? yaha tarAjU isa tarapha jhukA to dUsarI tarapha kucha DAlakara barAbara kareM, to vaha meMDhakoM kA tola (meMDhaka rakhakara tola barAbara karane kA prayatna karanA) kitanI dera taka TikegA? phira bhI samabhAva ko uttama bhAva mAnA gayA hai| bailensa rakhane kA prayatna karate haiM na? aura samatA yAnI phala car3hAe usa para rAga nahIM aura patthara mAre to usa para dveSa nahIM, Upara se use AzIrvAda dete haiM! 'samabhAva se nikAla' nakkI hone para hala hameM nahIM dekhanA hai, hameM to dRr3ha nizcaya karanA hai ki samabhAva se nikAla karanA hI hai| kabhI na kabhI vaha narama par3e bagaira rahegA hI nhiiN| sabakucha 'vyavasthita' ke hI anusAra hotA hai| samatAbhAva : jJAtA-dRSTAbhAva praznakartA : samatA aura jJAtA-dRSTAbhAva, ina donoM meM kyA pharka hai? dAdAzrI : samatA ke 'sTeja' meM to jhoMkA A jAtA hai, isalie aise capata mArakara jAgRta karanA par3atA hai| jaba ki jJAtA-dRSTA to kAyama jAgRta hI kahalAtA hai| isa 'akrama' kA 'samabhAva se phAiloM kA nikAla' - vaha to eka g2az2aba kI cIja hai! yaha hamArI AjJA pAlane kA Apa nizcaya karo ki 'phAiloM kA samabhAva se nikAla' karanA hI hai, to vaha Apako turanta hAz2ira ho jaaegaa| hamArA nizcaya cAhie ki 'nikAla (nipaTArA) karanA hai', ye zabda hI jJAnasvarUpa haiN| phira bAhara kA saba 'vyavasthita' ke adhIna hai| ApakI dRr3ha bhAvanA cAhie ki yaha AjJA pAlanI hI hai| samabhAva se nikAla karanA arthAta saMyogoM kA anusaraNa karake kAma lenaa| samatA meM aisA nahIM hotaa| anacAhA vyakti Ae taba aMdara mana, buddhi, citta, ahaMkAra sabhI uchalakUda karate haiN| usa ghar3I hama kaheM ki samabhAva se nikAla karanA hai, taba saba cupa ho jAte haiN| samabhAva se nikAla karane kA nakkI kiyA, taba se hI sAmanevAle vyakti para usakA asara par3atA hai aura sAmanevAlA bhI ThaMDA ho jAtA hai| kabhI bahuta gAr3ha hisAba ho to ThaMDA nahIM bhI hotA! vaha praznakartA : samatA kyA mana kI sthiti hai? dAdAzrI : mana kI sthiti hai, parantu mana kI aisI sthiti kaba rahegI? bhItara jAgRti ho, jJAna ho, tabhI vaha rhegii| nahIM to mana hamezA hI isa ora yA usa ora jhukA huA hI rahatA hai| samatA kaba rahatI hai? AtmA prApta ho jAe tb| jaba taka 'maiM caMdUlAla hU~', taba taka viSamatA hue bagaira rahegI hI nahIM aura 'maiM zuddhAtmA hU~' usakA bhAna huA to kAma ho gyaa| tRSNA, tRpti aura saMtoSa saMsAra kA khAe~, pIe~, bhogeM usase saMtoSa hotA hai, parantu tRpti nahIM hotii| saMtoSa meM se naye bIja Dalate haiN| parantu tRpti huI to tRSNA khar3I nahIM rahatI, tRSNA TUTa jAtI hai| tRpti aura saMtoSa meM bahata pharka hai| saMtoSa to sabhI ko hotA hai, parantu tRpti to kisIko hI hotI hai| saMtoSa meM phira se vicAra Ate haiN| khIra khAne ke bAda usakA saMtoSa hotA hai, parantu usakI icchA phira se hotI hai| ise saMtoSa kahA jAtA hai| jaba ki tRpti meM to phira se icchA hI nahIM hotI, usakA vicAra hI nahIM aataa| tRptivAle ko to viSaya kA eka bhI vicAra hI nahIM aataa| yaha to cAhe jaise samajhadAra hoM, parantu tRpti nahIM hone se viSayoM meM phaMsa gae haiM! vItarAga bhagavAna kA
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________________ (29) ciMtA : samatA 223 vijJAna, vaha tRpti hI lAnevAlA hai| loga kahate haiM, 'maiM khAtA huuN|' are, bhUkha lagI hai use bujhA rahA hai na? yaha pAnI kI pyAsa acchI parantu lakSmI kI pyAsa bhayaMkara kahalAtI hai! usakI tRSNA kisI bhI pAnI se nahIM bujhtii| yaha icchA pUrI hotI hI nhiiN| saMtoSa hotA hai, parantu tRpti nahIM hotii| saMtoSa sAikolojikala pariNAma hai, vaha TikatA nahIM hai| sAdhanoM meM tRpti mAnanI, vaha manovijJAna hai aura sAdhya meM tRpti mAnanI, vaha AtmavijJAna hai| (30) saMyama pariNAma yathArtha saMyama kise kahate haiM? bAhya saMyama ko bhagavAna ne saMyama nahIM kahA hai| vaha to udayAdhIna hai| udayAdhIna saMyama ko 'maiMne saMyama rakhA' kaheM, vaha bhrAMti hai| praznakartA : sacce artha meM saMyama pariNAma kise kahA jAtA hai? dAdAzrI: para-pariNati utpanna hI nahIM ho, vaha saMpUrNa saMyama kahA jAtA hai| aura vRttiyA~ apane ghara kI tarapha vApisa mur3ane lgiiN| aMzarUpa meM zurUAta huI use saMyama kahate hai| saMyama pariNAma samakita ke bAda hotA viSayoM ke saMyama ko saMyama nahIM khte| krodha-mAna-mAyA-lobha ke saMyama ko saMyama pariNAma kahate haiN| bAkI yaha tyAga hai, vaha to vastuoM kA tyAga hai, lakSmI kA tyAga hai, viSayoM kA tyAga hai, usameM to nA nahIM kaha skte| parantu use tyAga kaha sakate haiM, bhagavAna kI bhASA kA saMyama nahIM kaha skte| deha ke saMyama ko saMyama nahIM kaha sakate, vaha udayAdhIna hai| pUrvaprArabdhAdhIna hai| jaba ki saMyamita mana puruSArtha ke adhIna hai| bhayaMkara viSama paristhitiyoM meM saMyama rahanA caahie| eka bahana Ae thii| unhoMne mujhe kahA, 'dAdA, rAta ko mere pati ne mujhe eka tamAcA maaraa|' taba maiMne use pachA, 'tane phira kyA kahA?' taba vaha bolI, 'maiMne dUsarA gAla Age kiyaa|' maiMne pUchA, 'usa samaya tere bhItara pariNAma kaise the?' taba ve bolIM, 'bilkula zAMta, koI kharAba vicAra nahIM AyA thaa| ApakA jJAna hAz2ira ho gyaa|'
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________________ (30) saMyama pariNAma 225 226 AptavANI-4 ise saMyama kahate haiN| jagat rokara mAra khAtA hai aura jJAnI ha~sakara mAra khAte haiN| bhoganA to par3egA hI na? saMyama se hI Atmazakti prakaTa aise ekabAra saMyama pAlana kare to use do bAra saMyama pAlana karane kI zakti utpanna hotI hai| phira do se cAra aura cAra se solaha gunA zakti utpanna hotI hai, malTIplikezana kA niyama hai| isameM AtmA anaMta zaktivAlA hai| saMyama meM A gae ki zaktiyA~ prakaTa hotI jAtI haiN| svAnubhava pada arthAt kyA? AtmA prApta karane ke bAda jitanA saMyama meM rahA utanA svAnubhava pada kahalAtA hai| jise eka aMza huA, use phira sarvAMza ho jAtA hai| saMyamadhArI ko to bhagavAna ne bhI sarAhA hai| saMyamadhArI ke to darzana karane cAhie, jinhoMne yamarAja ko vaza meM kiyA hai! praznakartA : yamarAja ko vaza meM kiyA, vaha kisa taraha? dAdAzrI : yamarAja vaza meM ho gae kaba kahalAte haiM ki jise mRtyu kA bhaya nahIM rhe| saMyama ke skopa kA lAbha uThAo! kisIne kahA ho ki, 'caMdUbhAI ne yaha saba bigAr3a diyaa|' usa ghar3I bhItara apane pariNAma badala jAte haiN| parantu 'yaha galata ho rahA hai', aisA 'jAnanA' use ardhasaMyama kahA hai aura aise pariNAma bhItara khar3e hI nahIM hoM use pUrA saMyama kahA hai| praznakartA : mujhe koI Toke, DA~Te yA gAlI de, taba maiM usa tarapha kI khir3akI hI baMda kara detA hU~, hama suneM hI nhiiN| bhale hI vaha bolatA aura maiM saMyama rakhU' vaisA hogA hI nahIM na! yaha to kudaratI kabhI prApta ho jAe taba hameM kAna baMda karake 'haTa, vaha to bolatA hai, use to aisI burI Adata hai', yadi aisA kare to kyA lAbha? durgaMdha AtI ho aura nAka dabAkara rakheM, usameM Apane kyA saMyama kiyA? hamane to pahale inAma nikAlA thA ki jisa kisIko rupaye kI taMgI ho vaha hameM eka dhaula mArakara pA~ca sau rupaye le jaae| Apako muphta meM mArane ko taiyAra hai? are, inAma ghoSita kiyA to bhI mujhe koI mArane nahIM aayaa| loga kahane lage ki, 'Apako mArakara hama kahA~ jAe~ge? aisA hai| isalie kudaratI skopa mile, use to cUkanA mt| hamArI zakti saMyama ke guNAkAra se bar3hI hai| jJAna hone ke bAda to hameM anaMta saMyama pariNAma rahate haiN| isalie jo milA vaha sabhI phAyademaMda, bAhara ke upasarga meM to AtmA kA saMyama jabaradasta rahatA hai| saMyama hI puruSArtha saccA saMyama AtmA kI hAz2irI meM utpanna hotA hai| khuda ke svarUpa kI pratIti baiThe, taba se hI sacce saMyama meM AtA hai| usake bAda hI khuda ke doSa dikhate haiM aura unake pratikramaNa kare vaha saccA saMyama hai| saMyama ko hI puruSArtha kahA hai| puruSa hone ke bAda, AtmA jAnane ke bAda puruSArtha ho sakatA hai| saMyama puruSa ke lie hI lAgU hotA hai, varnA prakRti ke lie lAgU nahIM hotaa| prakRti udayakarma ke adhIna hai, vahA~ saMyama kaisA? AtmA prakaTa huA usake bAda hI kahA jAtA hai ki vAstavika saMyama svarUpa meM A gyaa| bAkI isa laukika saMyama meM to vyavahAra kI prekTisa karane jaisA rhe| sirpha saMyamI hI jAgRta hote haiN| saMyamI puruSa to eka nukasAna meM se dUsarA nukasAna utpanna nahIM hone dete| koI jA rahA ho aura usase apane Upara aMgAre gira gae aura aMdara kar3hApA-ajaMpA (kur3hana, kleza- becainI, azAMti, ghabarAhaTa) huA, vaha eka nukasAna to huA thA aura dUsarA bhayaMkara nukasAna utpanna huaa| aise divAliyA hI nikAlate haiN| eka nukasAna meM dAdAzrI : yaha to aisA kahA jAegA ki saMyama kA 'skopa' milA, usakA Apane lAbha nahIM utthaayaa| Apa kisIse kaho ki, 'Apa mujhe DA~To
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________________ (30) saMyama pariNAma se anaMta nukasAna utpanna karate haiN| jaba ki jJAna use jhAr3a detA hai aura usase jo saMyama sukha utpanna hotA hai, usakA to varNana nahIM ho sake vaisA hotA hai| 227 vyavahAra kaba se acchA mAnA jAtA hai? jaba se saMyamita ho taba se, asaMyamI kA vyavahAra pUrNa nahIM mAnA jaataa| 'jJAnI puruSa' ke to vANI, vartana, sabakucha saMyamita hotA hai, manohara hotA hai| lobha ke sAmane saMyama, kisa taraha? praznakartA: mAna kA saMyama, lobha kA saMyama, vaha jarA samajhAie / dAdAzrI : aisA hai, kucha logoM meM mAna kA saMyama kucha aMzoM taka A gayA hotA hai| koI gAliyA~ de, apamAna kare, to vaha ardhasaMyama pAlana kara sakatA hai| jaba ki lobha ke viSaya meM besudha ho jAtA hai| vahA~ para asaMyama adhika utpanna hotA hai| phira dera se jAgRti Ae, vaha vana phortha saMyama hotA hai| vaNika kI lobha kI graMthi bar3I hotI hai aura kSatriya kI mAna kI graMthi bar3I hotI hai| jisakI jo graMthi bar3I ho, usameM saMyama ko nahIM sa~bhAla paataa| vahA~ puruSArtha dharma meM aura parAkrama meM AnA pdd'egaa| pariSaha yA upasarga Ae~ phira bhI bhItara asara nahIM hone de aura asara ho to use 'jAne' vaha saMyama haiN| vedana ko 'jAne' vaha saMyama hai| bhagavAna mahAvIra jAnate hI the, vedana nahIM karate the 'DrAmeTikalI' hI vedana karate the| ////////// (31) icchApUrti kA niyama kudarata, kitanI niyamabaddha jagat meM vastue~ saMkhya haiM aura manuSyoM kI icchAe~ asaMkhya haiM, anaMta haiN| duniyA ke logoM kI icchAoM kI sUcI banAe~ aura jagat kI tamAma lakSmI kI sUcI banAe~ to mela khAegA? praznakartA: icchAe~ pUrI hoM usake lie kyA karanA cAhie? dAdAzrI : mana kA svabhAva kaisA hai ki nayA DhUMDhatA hai| ghara meM nayA sophA DhUMDhatA hai, nayA phleTa DhUMDhatA hai| tabiyata acchI ho to phleTa kI bAta karatA hai aura tabiyata bigar3I taba kahegA, 'aba phleTa nahIM caahie|' tabiyata sudhare aisI mAnatAe~ mAnatA hai! mana to baMdara kI taraha chalA~geM lagAtA hai aura vaha bhI binA pU~cha ke ! kudarata kyA kahatI hai ki, "maiM tujhe jo detA hU~ use karekTa mAna, 'vyavasthita' hai aisA maan|" terI sabhI icchAe~ maiM dhIre-dhIre, merI suvidhAnusAra pUrI kara duuNgii| tere marane se pahale terI icchAe~ pUrI kara duuNgii| icchA mara jAe taba vastue~ milatI haiN| eka vyakti pacapana varSa kA thA, taba taka vivAha kA vicAra karatA thA aura logoM se kahatA rahatA thA ki koI kanyA DhUMDha do| aura phira aTThAvana varSa kA huA to koI kahane AyA ki, 'hamArI eka beTI hai, yadi tujhe vivAha karanA ho to|' taba usane kahA, 'nahIM, aba merI icchA mara gaI hai|' mA~jI sattara varSa ke ho jAe~, taba hIre ke TaoNpsa lAe~, usakA kyA artha hai?
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________________ (31) icchApUrti kA niyama 229 parantu ye kudarata ke niyama alaga prakAra ke haiN| Urdhvagati meM le jAnA ho usake niyama alaga aura adhogati meM ghasITakara le jAne ke niyama alg| icchAe~ to sabhI kI pUrI hoMgI hii| 1 kudarata kA niyama aisA hai ki icchA ho aura vastu mile taba ve phisala rahe haiM, adhogati meM jA rahe haiM aura icchA ho to vastu kA ThikAnA nahIM par3atA aura ThikAnA par3e taba vastu kI icchA nahIM rahatI, vaha Urdhvagati meM le jAnevAlA kahalAtA hai| acchA hai vaha / praznakartA: bahuta logoM ko to icchA hone ke sAtha hI vastu hAz2ira ho jAtI hai, vaha kyA kahalAtA hai? dAdAzrI : icchA turanta pUrI ho jAe to phira vaha aise raMga meM car3hatA hai, aise raMga meM car3hatA hai ki phira mAra khA-khAkara mara jAtA hai aura adhogati meM jAtA hai| kyoMki mana kA svabhAva kaisA hai ki ekabAra kUdane kI jagaha milI to vaha uchalakUda karake rakha detA hai! yaha kaliyuga hai, isalie icchA ho aura usakI prApti ho jAe to phira ahaMkAra bar3ha jAtA hai aura gAr3I calatI hai ulTI / isalie isa kAla meM to ThokareM lageM, vahI acchA kahalAtA hai| puNya ke AdhAra para icchA pUrI huI to logoM ne dekho tUfAna macAe, icchA ke anusAra huA taba to yaha dazA huI ! puNya thA vaha kharca ho gayA aura yaha pha~sAva khar3A huaa| pAgala ahaMkAra hai isalie hI na? isalie ThokareM khA-khAkara prApti ho usameM hI phAyadA hai isa kAla meM to| kudarata ne kitanA suMdara prabaMdha kiyA hai! jise Urdhvagati meM jAnA hai usake lie sabakucha hI icchA ke anusAra saba pUrti kara detI hai, parantu usa icchA ke khatma ho jAne ke baad| aura adhogati meM jAnA hai use turanta hI cIjeM de detI hai| isalie kudarata kI isa bAta ko samajho / icchA, vahA~ aMtarAya praznakartA: icchA kA udbhavasthAna kyA hai? AptavANI-4 dAdAzrI : icchA saMyogoM ke dabAva se utpanna hotI hai| abhI yaha sabhI ko or3hane kI icchA nahIM hotI, parantu ThaMDa ekadama par3e to sabhI ko usakI icchA hogii| vaha saMyogoM ke dabAva ke kAraNa hai| 230 praznakartA: icchA parataMtratA hai, isalie icchA kyA rakhanI kisI cIz2a kI ? dAdAzrI : icchA nahIM rakhanI ho to bhI chUTe vaisA nahIM hai na! praznakartA: parabrahma meM to icchA aura mana kucha bhI nahIM rahatA / dAdAzrI : parabrahma meM icchA hotI hI nhiiN| icchA vaha paravazatA hai| jagat meM nirIcchaka puruSa ho to vaha sirpha 'jJAnI puruSa' hI hote haiN| nirIcchaka arthAt jinheM kisI bhI prakAra kI icchA nahIM hotii| pUre jagat kA sonA de to unheM vaha kAma kA nahIM hotA, viSayoM kA jinheM vicAra hI nahIM AtA, mAna-apamAna kI jinheM kucha par3I nahIM hotI, kIrti ke, ziSyoM ke, maMdira banAne ke bhikhArI nahIM hote, isa deha ke bhI bhikhArI nahIM hote / deha kA svAmitva chUTa cukA hotA hai| aise 'jJAnI puruSa' hameM nirIcchaka banAte haiN| svayaM ke upayoga meM kaba rahA jA sakatA hai? jaba sabhI icchAe~ maMda ho jAe~ tb| kabhI na kabhI to maMda karanI hI par3eMgI na? kiMcit mAtra bhI icchA, vaha bhIkha hai| hama saMpUrNa nirIcchaka ho cuke haiM, tabhI yaha jJAnIpada prApta huA hai ! icchAe~ pUrI hoM, taba aMtarAya nahIM rhte| icchA kareM to usase aMtarAya hotA hai| jise jo icchA ho vaha use dikhatI nahIM hai| kyoMki icchA kA AvaraNa ghera letA hai na? praznakartA: tIvra icchA pUrI karane kA upAya kyA hai? dAdAzrI : jisakI tIvra icchA huI vaha cIz2a mile bagaira rahegI hI
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________________ (31) icchApUrti kA niyama 231 nhiiN| do varSoM, pA~ca varSoM meM bhI milegii| tIvra icchA svayaM kahatI hai ki vaha pUrI hone hI vAlI hai| mokSa jAnevAle kI sabhI icchAe~ pUrI hoM, tabhI mokSa meM jAyA jA sakatA hai| icchA, usake pratyAkhyAna Apa sabhI ko aMdara jA~ca karanI hai ki kauna-kauna sI icchAe~ raha gaI haiM? pahale pUchanA ki, 'sinemA dekhane kI icchA hai?' to 'nahIM' khegaa| phira dUsarA pUchanA, tIsarA pUchanA, aMdara se javAba milegaa| subaha uThate hI pA~ca bAra sacce dila se bolanA, 'isa jagat kI koI bhI vinAzI cIz2a mujhe nahIM caahie|' itanA bolakara calanA cAhie, usake uparAMta bhI icchA ho to turanta hI pratyAkhyAna kara lenaa| icchA nahIM, phira bhI icchA ho jAe, plasa ho jAe to isa taraha mAinasa kara denA caahie| phira jokhimadArI nahIM (32) TI.vI. kI AdateM ...phira mahatva kisakA? dAdAzrI : ravivAra ko Apake naz2adIka hI satsaMga hotA hai to kyoM nahIM Ate ho? praznakartA : ravivAra ko TI.vI. dekhanA hotA hai na dAdA! rhegii| dAdAzrI : TI.vI, kA aura ApakA kyA saMbaMdha? ye cazme laga gae haiM to bhI TI.vI. dekhate ho? hamArA deza aisA hai ki TI.vI. nahIM dekhanA par3e, nATaka nahIM dekhanA par3e, idhara sabakucha yahIM ke yahIM rAste para hI hotA rahatA hai na? praznakartA : aMdara AzA-nirAzA kyoM AtI hai? dAdAzrI : AzA-nirAzA, icchAe~ deha kA dharma haiN| vaha usakA dharma pAlana karatI hI rahatI hai| AtmA ko koI icchA hai? AtmA ko icchA ho taba to AtmA bhikhArI ho gayA khlaaegaa| AtmA prApta hone ke bAda jo-jo icchAe~ hotI huI lagatI haiM, ve sabhI DiscArja icchAe~ haiM, ve nikAlI icchAe~ haiN| 'cArja' icchA vaha baMdhana hai| praznakartA : icchA cArja huI kaba kahalAtI hai? dAdAzrI : 'maiM caMdUlAla hU~' vaha pakkA hai Apako? praznakartA : nhiiN| dAdAzrI : to phira kartA ke binA kisa taraha karma baMdhege? 'maiM caMdUlAla hU~' vaha ajJAna hai aura ajJAna se karttApada hai| ajJAna gayA ki karttApada khatma huaa| phira 'cArja' nahIM hotaa| sirpha DiscArja hI rahatA hai| praznakartA : usa rAste para pahu~cU~gA taba baMda hogA na? dAdAzrI : kRSNa bhagavAna gItA meM yahI kaha gae haiM ki manuSya anartha TAima bigAr3a rahe haiN| khAne ke lie, naukarI para jAte haiM, vaha to koI anarthapUrvaka nahIM khlaataa| jaba taka Atmika dRSTi nahIM milatI, taba taka yaha dRSTi chUTatI nahIM hai na? loga zarIra para badabUvAlA kIcar3a kaba cupar3ate haiM? unheM jalana hotI hai tb| vaise hI yaha TI.vI., sinemA, sabakucha badabUdAra kIcar3a kahalAtA hai| usameM se koI sAra nahIM nikltaa| hameM TI.vI. se koI parezAnI nahIM hai| hara eka cIz2a dekhane kI chUTa hotI hai, parantu eka ora pA~ca bajakara dasa miniTa para TI.vI. (progrAma) ho aura eka ora pA~ca bajakara dasa miniTa para satsaMga ho, to kyA pasaMda AegA? gyAraha baje parIkSA ho aura gyAraha
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________________ (32) TI.vI. kI AdateM 233 baje bhojana karanA ho to kyA karoge? vaisI samajha honI cAhie na ! ___TAima pAsa yA jIvana vyartha ga~vAyA? isa hindustAna deza meM to ATha Ane kho gae hoM, usake lie ATha ghaMTe taka DhUMDhate raheM, vaise bhI loga haiM ! isalie harakoI apanI samajha ke anusAra samaya kA upayoga karatA hai| yaha manuSya deha bahuta muzkila se milA hai| bahuta qImatI hai yaha deha, parantu jaisI samajha hotI hai, vaise usakA upayoga karate haiN| samajha ke anusAra upayoga karate haiM na? yaha jo karate ho use hama galata hai' aisA nahIM khte| galata to isa duniyA meM kucha hotA hI nhiiN| parantu usameM TAima bigar3atA hai na? vesTa oNpha TAima hai| samajha ke abhAva ke kAraNa kisI samaya manuSyatva prApta huA ho, vaha bhI china jAtA hai aura cAra paira, chaha paira, ATha pairoMvAlA ho jAtA hai| bhaTakatA rahatA hai aura sArA samaya miTTI meM mila jAtA hai, vyartha calA jAtA hai| (33) lobha kI aTakaNa parasattA, vahA~ lobha kyA? praznakartA : mujhe lobha kI gA~Tha hai, to kyA karU~? dAdAzrI : Apa bolanA ki, 'vyavasthita' meM jo ho vaha bhale ho aura na ho to bhale ho| lobha se prApti yA nukasAna? praznakartA : lobha kI gA~Tha kaba phUTatI hai? dAdAzrI : ninyAnave ikaTThe ho jAe~ tb| karor3apati seTha hoM, phira bhI unheM lobha nahIM ho aisA hotA hai kabhI! lobhI ekAMgI hotA hai| use mAna kI bahuta uThApaTaka nahIM hotii| mAnI ko to apamAna kare to parezAna ho jaae| aura lobhI to kahatA hai, 'Aja hameM to do sau mile, bhale hI vaha gAliyA~ dekara gayA!' mAna aura krodha ho taba taka lobhI nahIM khlaataa| yaha lobha kI to burI Adata par3a cukI hotI hai| lobhI ko zurUAta meM pA~ca-dasa varSa taka dhana bar3hA huA lagatA hai, parantu phira nukasAna hI hotA hai| aura jinakA gaThana prAmANya sahita hai use to koI kamI nahIM pdd'tii| parantu jaba kudarata palaTe taba to sabhI kA TUTa jAtA hai| parantu itanA z2arUra hai ki jo prAmANya sahita hai use jarA bhaya kama lagatA hai| tRpti, AtmajJAna ke binA nahIM hai lobha kA pratipakSI zabda saMtoSa hai| pUrvajanma meM kucha kiyA huA ho, usase use saMtoSa rahatA hai| isa duniyA kA jJAna bhI thor3A-bahuta samajha gayA
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________________ (33) lobha kI aTakaNa ho use saMtoSa rahatA hai aura AtmajJAna ho vahA~ to tRpti hI rahatI hai| jisane anaMta janmoM se bhogA huA ho use saMtoSa rahatA hai, use koI cIz2a nahIM caahie| aura jisane nahIM bhogA huA hotA usake aMdara kisI-kisI taraha kA bhAva A jAtA hai, 'yaha bhoga lU~, vaha bhoga lU~' aisA rahatA hai| rAjasI sukha pUrvajanma meM bhogA huA ho to abhI Apako rAjya deM to bhI Apako pasaMda nahIM AegA, Uba hogI ! 235 praznakartA: kucha logoM ko to lokasaMjJA ke kAraNa sabakucha cAhie / kisIkI gAr3I dekhe to use khuda ko bhI caahie| dAdAzrI : vaha lokasaMjJA kaba utpanna hotI hai? khuda bhItara tRpta nahIM ho tb| mujhe abhI taka koI sukha denevAlA nahIM milA ! bacapana se hI mujhe reDiyo lAne taka kI jarUrata nahIM pdd'ii| ye saba jIte-jAgate reDiyo hI phirate rahate haiM na! bhI haraeka bAta kA lobha praznakartA: lobhI thor3A kaMjUsa hotA hai na? dAdAzrI : nahIM, kaMjUsa to phira alaga hote haiN| vaha to paise nahIM hoM, isalie kaMjUsa banatA hai aura lobhI ke ghara para to paccIsa haz2Ara rupaye par3e hoM, phira bhI kisa taraha ghI sastA milegA vaisA citta meM ghUmatA rahatA hai, jahA~-tahA~ lobha meM hI citta hotA hai| mArkeTa meM jAe to bhI kisa jagaha para sastA Dhera mila rahA hai, vahI DhUMDhatA rahatA hai! lobhI kise kahate haiM ki jo pratyeka lobha ke bAre meM jAgRta ho| khuda ke pAsa vastu kI kamI hai aura par3osa meM se le Ae use lobhI nahIM kahate / parantu khuda ke pAsa sabakucha hI hai phira bhI DhUMDhe, vaha lobhI / ////////// (34) lagAma chor3a do to karttApada kA adhyAsa chUTe apane yahA~ akrama meM sAmAyika, dhyAna yA koI kriyA nahIM hotI hai| vaha to bAhara vyavahAra meM hotA hai| vyavahArika dhyAna yA sAmAyika arthAt kyA ki bAhara se khuda kA bAunDrI nakkI ho aura usake aMdara bAhara se kisIko ghusane nahIM denA, jo Ae use nikAlate rahanA aura ghere meM kisIko ghusane nahIM denaa| ve bhagAe~ to bhI ghusa jAte haiM usmeN| aura apane yahA~ to jo ghusa jAte haiM, jo aMdara hotA hai, use dekhate hI rahanA hai| apanA sAmAyika kaisA hai ki jo bhI vicAra Ae~ ve kharAba Ae~ yA acche Ae~, sabhI ko 'dekhanA' hai, sirpha dekhate hI rahanA hai| jaise sinemA meM dekhate haiM ki aMdara loga mArAmArI kara rahe haiM, jhagar3A kara rahe haiM, parantu hama usameM imozanala nahIM hote haiM na? jaisA sinemA meM hai, vaisaa| aMdara kA pUrA sinemA dekhanA, vaha sAmAyika hai| ar3atAlIsa miniTa kiyA jAe to vaha bahuta kAma ho jaae| yaha lagAma chor3a dene kA prayoga haphte meM eka dina Apa karake to dekho ! ravivAra ho usa dina subaha se hI lagAma chor3a do aura kahanA ki, 'dAdA, yaha lagAma Apako sauNpii| ye pA~coM hI indriyoMrUpI ghor3oM kI lagAma hameM sauMpa do aura Apako to sirpha dekhate hI rahanA hai ki kisa taraha cala rahA hai vaha / ' yaha gAr3I ko khaDDe meM nahIM par3ane degA aura kucha bhI nahIM honA degaa| yaha to Apako lagAma pakar3anA nahIM AtA aura DhalAna Ae taba lagAma DhIlI rakha dete ho aura car3hAI Ae taba lagAma khIMcate rahate ho, to ghor3e bhI becAre hA~pha-hA~phakara thaka gae haiN| aura unake mu~ha lahUluhAna
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________________ (34) lagAma chor3a do 237 238 AptavANI-4 ho gae haiM ! isalie hI to zrI kRSNa bhagavAna ne arjuna se kahA ki tU aMdara baiTha aura ratha calAne kA kAma mujhe sauMpa de| zrI kRSNa ne lagAma pakar3I taba kahIM jAkara arjuna kI gAr3I sIdhI calI! hama Apako haphte meM eka dina lagAma chor3a dene ko kahate haiN| zAyada kabhI bhUlacUka ho jAe to 'dAdA, yaha phira se lagAma pakar3a lI, usake lie mAfI mA~gatA hU~ aura aba nahIM pakaDUMgA', aisA kahakara phira lagAma phira se chor3a denaa| zurUAta meM bhUla hogI, prekTisa hone meM z2arA dera lagegI, phira dusarI, tIsarI bAra karekTanesa A jaaegii| parantu usase Age bar3hane ke lie, usase Age kA progrAma dekhanA ho to 'caMdUbhAI kyA bolate haiM, use dekhate rahanA hai ki yaha karekTa hai yA jAgRti hai aura taba se hI kalyANakArI hai| ___ aMdara mazInarI ko DhIlI nahIM chor3anA hai| hameM usa para dekharekha rakhanI hai ki kahA~-kahA~ ghisa rahA hai, kyA huA hai, kisake sAtha vANI kaThora niklii| bole, usameM harja nahIM hai, hameM 'dekhate' rahanA hai ki ohoho! caMdUbhAI kaThoratA se bole| praznakartA : parantu jaba taka nahIM bolA jAe taba taka acchA hai na? nahIM?' 'jJAnI' kA kaisA prayoga! hama 'jJAniyoM kA prayoga kaisA hotA hai ki haraeka kriyA 'hama' dekhate haiN| isalie isa vANI ko maiM rikaoNrDa kahatA hU~ na! yaha rikaoNrDa bola rahI hai use dekhatA rahatA hU~ ki kyA rikaoNrDa baja rahI hai aura kyA nahIM ! aura jagat tanmayAkAra ho jAtA hai| saMpUrNa nirtanmayAkAra rahe use kevalajJAna kahA dAdAzrI : 'bolanA, nahIM bolanA' vaha apane hAtha meM nahIM rahA ab| Apa to bar3e janarala menejara ho, isalie Apako samajhAU~ to Apa turanta samajha jAte ho| 'cArja-DiscArja' kA sAinsa yaha DiscArja kise kahate haiM? eka moTara hai, vaha cAbI lagAne se calatI hai, vaha cAbI lagAte samaya use cArja kahA jAtA hai| phira use DiscArja kI taraha rakheM, taba vaha phira apanI sattA meM rahegI kyA? praznakartA: nhiiN| jagat dekhatA hai vaise ye ajJAnI bhI dekhate haiM parantu unakA dekhA huA kAma meM nahIM aaegaa| kyoMki unakA besamenTa (AdhAra) ahaMkAra hai| 'maiM caMdUlAla hU~' vaha usakA besamenTa hai| aura apanA' besamenTa 'maiM zuddhAtmA hU~' hai| isalie apanA dekhA huA kevalajJAna ke aMza meM jAtA hai| jitane aMza taka hamane dekhA, utane aMza taka hamane apane Apa ko alaga dekhA, vANI ko alaga dekhA, ye caMdUbhAI kyA kara rahe haiM vaha dekhA, utane aMza taka kevalajJAna utpanna huaa| hameM koI gAliyA~ de to vaha bhI hamAre jJAna meM hI hotA hai, yaha rikaoNrDa kyA bola rahI hai, vaha mere jJAna meM hI hotA hai| rikaoNrDa galata bolI ho to mere jJAna meM hI hotA hai| hameM bilkula jAgRti rahatI hai aura saMpUrNa jAgRti - vaha kevalajJAna hai| vyavahAra meM logoM ko vyavahArika jAgRti rahatI hai, vaha to ahaMkAra ke mAre rahatI hai| parantu yaha to zuddhAtmA hone ke bAda kI jAgRti kahalAtI hai| yaha aMza kevalajJAna kI dAdAzrI : phira vaha apanI sattA meM nahIM rhtii| jitanI cAbI ghumAI hogI utanI hI clegii| AdhI ghumAI hogI to AdhI calegI aura eka cauthAI bhAga ghumAI hogI to utanI hI clegii| aura pUrI cAbI ghumAI hogI to pUrI jaaegii| use hama roka nahIM skte| ise DiscArja kahA jAtA hai| vaise hI yaha sArI vANI DiscArja ho rahI hai| tIna beTariyA~ DiscArja ho rahI haiN| vANI kI, vartana kI aura mana kii| ApakI icchA nahIM ho to bhI vicAra niraMtara DiscArja hote hI rahate haiN| pasaMda hoM yA pasaMda nahIM hoM, parantu vicAra to niraMtara DiscArja hote hI rheNge| eka tarapha ye tIna beTariyA~ DiscArja hotI haiM aura naI tIna beTariyA~ cArja hotI hI rahatI haiM, nayA mana taiyAra hotA rahatA hai, naI vANI rikaoNrDa hotI hI rahatI hai| jaba taka khada ko svarUpa kA jJAna nahIM hai, koI besamenTa nahIM hai, taba taka phira naI beTariyA~ cArja hotI rahatI haiN| aura phira ve DiscArja hotI rahatI haiN| arthAt
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________________ (34) lagAma chor3a do 240 AptavANI-4 ye saba beTariyA~ hI haiN| ye tInoM beTariyA~ khatma hotI jAtI haiM aura naI beTariyA~ banatI jAtI haiN| maiM caMdUlAla hU~', vaisA Aropita bhAva hai, taba taka ajJAna ke kAraNa beTariyA~ banatI rahatI haiM aura 'maiM zuddhAtmA hU~' vaha bhAna hai isalie hameM naI beTariyA~ cArja nahIM hotiiN| purAnI to DiscArja hotI hI raheMgI hara eka kI, ajJAnI kI, jJAnI kI, jAnavaroM kI - sabhI kI DiscArja hotI hI rheNgii| usa DiscArja meM koI mehanata nahIM karanI pdd'tii| DiscArja svabhAva arthAt apane Apa DiscArja hotA hI rahatA hai saaraa| Apa kaho, nakkI karo ki hAtha nahIM hilAnA hai parantu hAtha hila jAtA hai, kyoMki ye saba mazInariyA~ DiscArja ho rahI haiN| aba ye loga DiscArja ko badalane jAte haiM, vaha kisa taraha se hogA? zAyada cArja hote samaya cArja ko badalA jA sakatA hai| yaha DiscArja hamArI icchA ke anusAra hotA hai, taba logoM kA ahaMkAra car3ha jAtA hai ki merI icchAnusAra hI sabakucha hotA hai aura phira khuda kI icchA ke viruddha ho taba phira kahatA hai ki bhagavAna ne mujhe aisA kiyA, mere karma kharAba haiN|' sabakucha ulTA-sIdhA bolatA rahatA hai| icchA ke anusAra ho jAe vaha bhI DiscArja hai, icchA nahIM ho vaha bhI DiscArja hai| usakA svabhAva, vaha DiscArja ko batAtA hai| isameM do prakAra se hotA hai - eka pasaMda ho vaisA aura eka pasaMda nahIM ho vaisA hotA hai| isameM se duniyA ko rAga-dveSa khar3e hote haiN| acchA lage usa para rAga aura acchA nahIM lage usa para dveSa! isalie rAga, dveSa aura 'maiM caMdUlAla hU~'vaha ajJAna, itane se hI yaha pUrI duniyA cala rahI hai| jise jaina loga rAgadveSa aura ajJAna kahate haiM aura vedAMtI mala, vikSepa aura ajJAna kahate haiN| DiscArja svarUpoM ko, nirdoSa dekheM bAhara kA to Apa dekhoge vaha alaga bAta hai. paranta Apake hI aMdara kA Apa sabakucha dekhane lagoge, usa samaya Apa kevalajJAna sattA meM hoNge| parantu aMza kevalajJAna hogA, sarvAMza nhiiN| aMdara kharAba vicAra Ae~ unheM dekhanA hai, acche vicAra Ae~ unheM dekhanA hai| acche ke Upara rAga nahIM aura kharAba ke Upara dveSa nhiiN| acchA-burA dekhane kI hameM z2arUrata nahIM hai| kyoMki mUla sattA hI hamAre kAbU meM nahIM hai| isalie jJAnI kyA dekhate haiM? pUre jagat ko nirdoSa dekhate haiN| kyoMki yaha sabakucha DiscArja meM hai, usameM una becAroM kA kyA doSa? Apako koI gAliyA~ de vaha DiscArja, baoNsa Apako parezAna kare to bhI DiscArja hI hai| baoNsa to nimitta hai| duniyA meM kisIkA doSa nahIM hai| jo doSa dikhate haiM vaha khuda kI hI bhUla hai aura ve hI blaMDarsa haiM aura unase hI yaha jagat khar3A rahA hai| doSa dekhane se, ulTA dekhane se hI baira baMdhatA hai| DrAmeTika meM karttApada nahIM yathArtha darzana nahIM huA aura jaise isa duniyA ke loga dekhate haiM, laukika darzana se ki, 'ye mere sAle lagate haiM, ye mere mAmA lagate haiM, ye mere cAcA lagate haiN| isa taraha 'mere' bolane se hI rAga hotA hai aura 'yaha' svarUpajJAna milane ke bAda 'merA' bolanA hai, parantu vaha 'DrAmeTika' hotA hai| usameM DrAmeTika bhAva hotA hai| bAta choTI aura sIdhI hai, sirpha bAta ko samajhanA hI hai! ye mana, vANI aura vartana jo DiscArja hote rahate haiM, unheM khAlI dekhate hI rahanA hai| DiscArja apanI sattA meM nahIM hai| vahA~ para Apa yadi dakhala karane jAoge to usase kucha bhI phAyadA nahIM hogaa| Apako' to 'caMdUbhAI' kyA karate haiM, use hI dekhate rahanA hai| bhagavAna mahAvIra sirpha yahI karate the| jo khuda kA pudgala thA, usameM kyA cala rahA hai use hI dekhate the| eka pudgala ko hI dekhate the, dUsarA kucha bhI nahIM dekhate the| kaise sayAne the ve! jinakI bAta karate hI AnaMda hotA hai!!! praznakartA : parantu saMsAra meM DrAmeTika meM bhI khuda ko karanA to par3egA na? dAdAzrI : DrAmeTika meM to karanA nahIM par3atA, sabakucha hotA hI rahatA hai| aura kucha bhI karane jaisA hai bhI nahIM, apane Apa hotA hI rahatA hai! nIMda ke samaya para nIMda A jAtI hai, jAgane ke samaya para jAga jAtA hai| saba hotA hI rahatA hai| isameM 'karanA paDegA yA karane jaisA hai' aisA bhI nahIM bola sakate aura 'nahIM karanA hai yA karane jaisA nahIM hai' aisA bhI nahIM
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________________ (34) lagAma chor3a do 241 bola sakate kyoMki karttApana hama logoM meM hai hI nhiiN| AtmA akartA hai| saMyama, carama dazA kA praznakartA : parantu vyavahAra ke jo karma karane hote haiM ve karma to Ae~ge na? dAdAzrI : vaha to saba calatA hI rahegA apane aap| hameM' caMdUbhAI se kahanA cAhie ki, 'caMdUbhAI, oNphisa kA TAima ho gyaa| kyoM nahIM jAte ho?' basa, itanI hI cetAvanI denI hai| vaha hotA hI rhegaa| DiscArja arthAt jo hotA hI rahatA hai| kisIke sAtha ulTA bola liyA jAe to Apako caMdUbhAI se kahane meM harja nahIM hai ki sAmanevAle ko duHkha ho vaisA nahIM bolo to acchaa| phira bhI ulTA bola liyA jAe to hameM caMdUbhAI se kahanA cAhie, 'Apane atikramaNa kyoM kiyA? beTe ko du:kha ho aisA bole isalie Apa pratikramaNa kro|' phira beTe ke nAma se pratikramaNa krnaa| basa, itanA hI samajhanA hai| 'kyA ho rahA hai' vaha dekhanA cUka jAe~ use asaMyama kahA hai aura saMyama kise kahA jAtA hai ki, 'kyA ho rahA hai use dekhatA hI rahe! yaha aMtima saMyama, yaha jJAniyoM kA saMyama kahalAtA hai aura isa jagat ke loga to deha ke saMyama ko saMyama kahate haiN| ye sabhI sthUla bAte haiM aura 'ye' to saMyama kI aMtima bAteM haiN| 'yaha' saMyama A gayA, usakA deha to niyama se hI dhIre-dhIre saMyamita hotA hI jAtA hai| isalie isa carama saMyama meM hI A jAne jaisA hai| (35) karma kI thiyarI vyavahAra meM, karma kyA? dharma kyA? Amane-sAmane samAdhAnapUrvaka hisAba karanA, vaha dharma kahalAtA hai| Amane-sAmane samAdhAnapUrvaka hisAba nahIM karanA, vaha karma kahalAtA sabjI meM namaka adhika Dala gayA ho, vahA~ para khA leM, vaha dharma hai aura 'khArA banAyA (namaka jyAdA ho gayA). aisA kyoM kiyA' kaheM - vaha karma hai| jagat ne kartA thiyarI hI jAnI praznakartA : karma kI thiyarI jainiz2ama meM nahIM hai aura gItA meM hai, to aisA kyoM? dAdAzrI : karma kI thiyarI jainiz2ama meM aura dUsare dharmoM ne bhI eksepTa kI hai| jitane loga punarjanma meM mAnate haiM ve sabhI karma kI thiyarI ko mAnate haiN| karma kI thiyarI ko smjho| AtmA kI kartA thiyarI saba dekhate haiN| inhoMne merA apamAna kiyA, vaha kartA hai aisI thiyarI dekhI hai, parantu ye mere karma kA udaya kara rahe haiM vaha thiyarI dekhI nahIM hai| kaI loga bolate haiM ki, 'mere karma bAdhaka haiM', parantu vaha thiyarI unhoMne nahIM dekhI hai| 'karma kyA haiM' vaha yadi samajha gayA hotA to sAmanevAle para Aropa karane ko rahatA hI nahIM ki, 'isane mujhe aisA kyoM kiyA!'
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________________ (35) karma kI thiyarI 243 244 AptavANI-4 karma ke kAraNa jIva chaTapaTAhaTa anubhava kara rahe haiN| Upara se kahate haiM ki, 'isa bhAI ne mujhe aisA kiyA, vaisA kiyaa|' isase karma Dabala hote jAte haiN| yadi mUla bAta ko samajhe ki, 'yaha kisalie huA? gharavAle parezAna karate haiM vaha khuda kA hI hisAba hai, bhugate usakI bhUla hai' to chaTapaTAhaTa kama ho jaaegii| praznakartA : saMsAra kA cakra karma kI thiyarI ke anusAra calatA hai na? dAdAzrI : yadi tU jJAnI hai to tere karma nahIM hai aura ajJAnI hai to tere karma haiN| aisA hai, 'AtmA karma kA kartA hai' aisA jo mAnatA hai to vaha bhUla hai| vAstava meM, AtmA karma kA kartA nahIM hai| AtmA yadi karma kA kartA ho na to chUTegA hI nahIM kabhI bhii| yadi AtmA karma kA kartA hotA to mokSa meM jA cuke siddha bhagavAna bhI vahA~ para karma bA~dhate hI rhte| koI bApa bhI karma bA~dhanevAlA nahIM hai yA koI bApa bhI chur3avAnevAlA nahIM hai, jo hai vaha tU hI hai| praznakartA : AtmA 'zuddhAtmA' hai, to phira karma kise lepAyamAna karate hai? dAdAzrI : karanevAle ko| praznakartA : yadi pudgala karatA hai to vaha to yahIM para rahatA hai dAdAzrI : nahIM, usameM karma kI thiyarI nahIM hai| praznakartA : karma kyA haiM? karma kI thiyarI ke Upara baiThe raheM taba bhI samAdhAna nahIM hotaa| bhagavAna ko karttA mAneM to bhI phiTa nahIM hotaa| to kucha aura hI honA cAhie, jo ina sabako regyulara rakhatA hai| vaha kyA na? dAdAzrI : vaha to 'sAinTiphika sarakamasTenziyala eviDensa' ke AdhAra para calatA hai| pUre varlDa ko yahI zakti calAtI hai| ye zabda ekadama samajha meM nahIM aaeNge| bahuta bArIkI se socoge to samajha meM aaegaa| karma kA kartA kauna? praznakartA : karma arthAt kyA? usakA mUla kyA hai? karma kaise baMdhate dAdAzrI : karma pudgala bhI nahIM karatA aura AtmA bhI nahIM krtaa| vaha to AtmA kI hAjirI se ahaMkAra khar3A ho jAtA hai| vaha ahaMkAra hI karma karatA hai| vaha ahaMkAra hI kahatA hai, 'yaha maiMne kiyA, mujhe sukha milA, mujha para duHkha par3A, mujhe jJAna huA, mujhe ajJAna huaa|' vaha sArA ahaMkAra hI karatA rahatA hai| ahaMkAra gayA isalie 'khada''usa' rUpa ho gyaa| logoM ko samajha meM Ae isalie vItarAgoM ne kahA hai ki AtmA vyavahAra se kartA hai, nizcaya se akartA hai| 'bAya rileTiva vyU poinTa' AtmA karma kA kartA hai| vaha bhI phira, vaha dikhanevAle karmoM kA karttA nahIM hai, bhAvakoM kA kartA hai| ye dikhate haiM una karmoM ko to kudarata, 'vyavasthita' karatI hai| dAdAzrI : karttAbhAva se karma baMdhate haiN| maiM karatA hU~' vaha karttAbhAva hai| karatA hai koI aura hI aura Aropa karatA hai ki 'maiMne kiyaa|' kaoNleja meM pAsa hotA hai, vaha dUsarI zakti ke AdhAra para hotA hai aura kahatA hai ki maiM pAsa huaa| vaha Aropita bhAva hai, usase karma baMdhate haiN| maiM caMdUlAla hU~' vahI karma hai| praznakartA : to karma kauna karatA hai? karma AtmA ko lagate haiM yA pudgala ko? 'bAya riyala vyU poinTa' AtmA svabhAvakarma kA kartA hai| khuda kI roMga bilIfa utpanna hotI hai ki 'maiM caMdUlAla hU~'! isalie isa roMga bilIfa se karma baMdhate haiN| pudgala akelA karma nahIM kara sktaa|
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________________ 245 246 AptavANI-4 (35) karma kI thiyarI AtmA kI hAjirI caahie| AtmA kI hAjirI se jo ahaMkAra khar3A hotA hai, vahI kAma karatA hai| yadi igoijama phrekcara ho gayA to khatma ho gyaa| yaha ahaMkAra karma bA~dhatA hai aura kudarata char3avAtI hai| TAimiMga milatA hai, dUsare eviDensisa milate haiM, taba kudarata ve karma char3avAtI hai| ve karma jaba chUTate haiM, taba igoijama unheM bhugatatA hai aura vApisa vaha nayA karma bA~dhatA vaha ahaMkAra kauna nikAle? praznakartA : yAnI Apa aisA kahanA cAhate haiM ki AtmA padagala ke dvArA karma bAMdhatA hai aura pudgala ke dvArA karma chor3atA hai? dAdAzrI : nahIM, vaisA nahIM hai| AtmA to isameM hAtha DAlatA hI nahIM hai| vAstava meM to AtmA mukta hI hai, svataMtra hai| AtmA ke vizeSabhAva se hI yaha ahaMkAra khar3A hotA hai aura vaha karma bAMdhatA hai aura vahI karma bhugatatA hai| Apa ho zuddhAtmA' parantu bolate ho ki 'maiM caMdUbhAI huuN|' jahA~ khuda nahIM hai, vahA~ Aropa karanA ki 'maiM hU~', vaha ahaMkAra kahalAtA hai| parAye ke sthAna ko khuda kA sthAna mAnatA hai, vaha igoijama hai| yaha ahaMkAra chUTe to khuda ke sthAna meM AyA jA sakatA hai| praznakartA : ahaMkAra khuda ke prayatna se chUTatA hai yA kudaratI rUpa se chUTatA hai? dAdAzrI : saMpUrNa nahIM chuutttaa| svaprayatna se kucha hada taka chUTa sakatA hai| jaise kapar3oM meM se maila nikAlane ke lie sAbuna se dhoe~, taba sAbuna usakA maila chor3atA jAtA hai| sAbuna kA maila nikAlane ke lie TInopola DAlo to TInopola apanA maila chor3atA jAtA hai, parantu aMtima maila apane Apa nahIM chUTa sktaa| aMtima maila nikAlane ke lie 'jJAnI puruSa' caahie| taba taka kudaratI rUpa se TakarA-TakarAkara ahaMkAra TUTatA jAtA hai| ajJAna, vahA~ avirata krmbNdhn| praznakartA : hama to abhI prati kSaNa karma bA~dhate jA rahe haiM na? dAdAzrI : pratikSaNa hI nahIM, rAta ko nIMda meM bhI karma bA~dhate ho| dina meM to mAnate ho ki maiM karma bA~dha rahA hU~, parantu rAta ko bhI bA~dhate ho| kyoMki nIMda meM bhI 'maiM caMdUlAla hU~' vaha bhUlA nahIM jaataa| jJAna, vahA~ karmabaMdhana hI nahIM praznakartA : karma nahIM baMdhe usakA rAstA kyA hai? dAdAzrI : svabhAva bhAva meM A jAnA vh| 'jJAnI puruSa' khuda ke svarUpa kA bhAna karavA deM, phira karma nahIM bNdhte| phira naye karma cArja nahIM hote, purAne DiscArja hote rahate haiN| praznakartA : zarIra kA khAne-pIne kA jo dharma hai, usameM jo karma baMdha rahe haiM, ve kisa taraha chUTeMge? dAdAzrI : svarUpajJAna ke bAda karma baMdhate hI nhiiN| phira khAopIo, ghUmo, cazme lagAo phira bhI nahIM bNdhte| praznakartA : khAne-pIne meM jIvoM kI hiMsA hotI hai na? dAdAzrI : jaba taka khuda hiMsaka hai, taba taka hara eka kriyA meM hiMsA rahI huI hai| maiM caMdUlAla hU~, vaha Aropita bhAva hai, vahI hiMsaka bhAva hai| aura jaba svayaM AtmA ho gayA, taba phira ahiMsaka huA, usake bAda use hiMsA kA doSa nahIM lgtaa| yaha to svarUpa kA bhAna hI nahIM hai, isalie nirI hiMsA hI hai| mAtra dRSTi badalanI hai| prAyazcita se halke karma baMdhate haiM praznakartA : hama hRdaya se ahiMsaka hoM phira bhI zarIra ke dharma. pharja pUre karate jAe~ to karma nahIM baMdhate aisA ApakA kahanA hai? dAdAzrI : nahIM, ve to baMdhate haiN| jaba taka ApameM Aropita bhAva hai ki 'maiM caMdUlAla hU~' aura Apake mana meM bhAva hai ki 'mujhe hiMsA nahIM karanI hai|' phira bhI ho jAtI hai to usakA phala jarUra milatA hai, parantu kaisA milatA hai? Apako choTA patthara lagakara karma pUrA ho jAtA hai| aura
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________________ (35) karma kI thiyarI 247 248 AptavANI-4 dUsare ko aisA bhAva hai ki 'hiMsA karanI hai to use itanA bar3A patthara lgegaa| hiMsA donoM kI eka-sI hotI hai, parantu bhAva badalane ke kAraNa karmaphala meM badalAva ho jAtA hai| praznakartA : zarIra ke dharma pUre karate haiM to usakA prAyazcita karanA par3atA hai? dAdAzrI : haaN| aura jaba taka 'maiM AtmA hU~' aisA bhAna nahIM ho, taba taka prAyazcita nahIM hogA to karma adhika cipkeNge| prAyazcita karane se karma kI gA~TheM halkI ho jAtI haiN| nahIM to usa pApa kA phala bahata kharAba AtA hai| manuSyatva bhI calA jAtA hai aura manuSya janma mile to use hara prakAra kI ar3acaneM AtI haiN| khAne kI, pIne kI, mAna-tAna to kabhI dikhate hI nahIM, hamezA apmaan| isalie yaha prAyazcita yA dUsarI sabhI kriyAe~ karanI par3atI haiN| ise parokSa bhakti kahA jAtA hai| jaba taka AtmajJAna nahIM hotA, taba taka parokSa bhakti karane kI jarUrata hai| karmabaMdhana, manuSyagati meM hI praznakartA : yaha yadi roz2a kI kriyAoM kA prAyazcita nahIM kareM to lambe aMtarAla meM usakA Dhera ho jAegA na? / dAdAzrI : nahIM, Dhera nahIM hotaa| karma baMdha gae isalie ve khapa jAte haiN| udAharaNa ke taura para pAzavatA ke karma baMdhe hoM to vaha pazuyoni meM jAtA hai aura vahA~ se khapAkara A jAtA hai| karmoM kA Dhera nahIM hotaa| eka janma kI kamAI jAnavara ke pA~ca-sAta janma lekara pUrI karake AtA hai| praznakartA : jAnavara ke janma meM vApisa karma baMdhate haiM na? dAdAzrI : nahIM, vahA~ karma nahIM bNdhte| sirpha manuSya hI karma bA~dha sakatA hai| devI-devatA bhI karma nahIM baaNdhte| dUsarI sabhI gatiyA~ to sirpha chUTane ke lie hI hotI haiN| praznakartA : ye tiryaMcagati ke jIva haiM - ve hiMsaka haiM, unameM kaSAya haiM, phira bhI ve karma nahIM bA~dhate? dAdAzrI : nahIM, koI jAnavara karma nahIM bA~dhatA, sivAya manuSya ke| praznakartA : manuSya meM jo karma bA~dhe, ve tiryaMcagati meM bhogane par3ate haiM? dAdAzrI : hA~, yahA~ kisIkA aNahakka kA le liyA ho, aNahakka kA bhoga liyA ho, to ve sabhI pAzavatA ke karma kahalAte haiM, ve pazayoni meM jAkara bhugatane par3ate haiN| praznakartA : phira vApisa manuSya meM AtA hai, bhogane ke bAda? dAdAzrI : hA~, manuSya meM hI AtA hai| devagati meM jAe, phira bhI bhugatakara vApisa manuSya meM AtA hai| sirpha manuSyagati meM se hI saba jagaha jAne kA adhikAra hai| manuSyagati meM cArja aura DiscArja donoM ho rahe haiM, jaba ki dUsarI gatiyA~ sirpha DiscArja svarUpa haiN| yaha manuSyagati hI TesTa ekjAminezana hai| yadi phela ho gae to tiryaMca meM jAoge, narkagati meM jAoge aura pAsa hue to manuSya meM rahoge aura bahuta acche naMbara lAe to devagati meM jaaoge| aura pA~cavI gati, mokSa bhI manuSya deha se hI hotI hai| praznakartA : tiryaMca meM se tiryaMcagati meM yA dUsarI gati meM jAte hue bIca meM manuSya ke sTezana para rukanA par3atA hai? dAdAzrI : nahIM, tiryaMca meM se tiryaMca, aise ATha janmoM se adhika nahIM hote| phira vApisa manuSya kA sTezana AtA hai| praznakartA : manuSya meM jo samajha hai vaha tiryaMcagati meM bhI hai, phira bhI ve karma kyoM nahIM bA~dhate? dAdAzrI : tiryacoM kI samajha limiTeDa hai aura ye manuSya anlimiTeDa samajhavAle haiN| tiryaMcoM kA mAinDa bhI limiTeDa hotA hai, isalie ve karma nahIM bA~dha skte| karma, kitane hI janmoM kI silaka praznakartA : abhI jo karma haiM ve anaMta janmoM ke haiM?
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________________ (35) karma kI thiyarI 249 250 AptavANI-4 dAdAzrI : hara eka janma anaMta janmoM kA sArarUpa hotA hai| sabhI janmoM kA ikaTThA nahIM hotaa| kyoMki niyama aisA hai ki paripAka kAla hone para phala pakanA hI caahie| nahIM to kitane sAre karma raha jAe~ge!! hisAba, kisa taraha cukAyA jAe? praznakartA : pichale janma meM kisIke sAtha baira bA~dhA ho to vaha kisI janma meM usase milakara cukAnA par3atA hai na? dAdAzrI : nahIM, aisA nahIM hai| usa taraha badalA nahIM cuktaa| baira baMdhe taba aMdara rAga-dveSa hote haiN| pichale janma meM bacce ke sAtha baira bA~dhA ho to hama soceM ki vaha kisa janma meM pUrA hogA? isa taraha vApisa kaba mileMge? yaha to isa janma meM baccA billI banakara aaegaa| usake lie Apa dUdha rakho to vaha Apake muMha para nAkhana mArakara calI jAegI! aisA hai yaha saba! isa taraha, ApakA baira cukatA ho jAtA hai| paripAka kAla ke lie niyama haiM, isIlie thor3e samaya meM hisAba pUrA ho jAtA hai| yaha hama Apase kahate haiM ki anaMta janmoM se Apane mokSa ke lie kucha kiyA? usakA artha yaha hai ki isa janma meM ApakA anaMta janmoM kA sAra kyA hai? ArtadhyAna aura raudradhyAna hote rahate haiM vahI na? ye jo bhugatane par3ate haiM, ve hI karmaphala haiN| dUsarA kucha nhiiN| karma ko dekhA nahIM jA sktaa| karmaphala dekhe jA sakate haiN| loga dhaula mAreM, sira du:khe, peTa du:khe, lakavA ho jAe, use hI karma kahate haiM, aisA nahIM hai| kucha loga mAnate haiM ki isa deha kA saMga kiyA, usakI chaTapaTAhaTa hai| parantu vAstava meM vaisA nahIM hai| deha koI kusaMgI nahIM hai| usakI samajha yadi aise sIdhI mur3e to mokSa meM jAne meM helpa karatI hai, vaha to samajhane meM hI bhUla hai| maiM caMdUbhAI hU~' aisA mAnakara jo-jo kiyA jAtA hai, usase saMsAra banA rahatA hai| to koI nimitta nahIM hotA hai, to usake pIche kauna-sA karma hotA hogA? dAdAzrI : sAmanevAle ko nukasAna karane kA pUrva bhava meM bhAva kiyA, utanA hI apanA nukasAna aura vaisA bhAva nahIM kiyA ho use koI nukasAna nahIM phuNcaataa| sabhI loga luTa rahe hoM, parantu yadi koI aisA pavitra manuSya ho, to use koI laTa nahIM skegaa| laTanevAle bhI lUTa nahIM skeNge| itanA adhika sephasAiDavAlA jagat hai yaha ! Azrava, nirjarA : saMvara, baMdha praznakartA : karma khapAnA, use kyA samajheM? dAdAzrI : karma kA mUla kyA hai? raag-dvess| jainiz2ama ne kahA hai ki 'mokSa meM jAnA ho, taba rAga, dveSa aura ajJAna jAe~ to mokSa hogaa|' aura vedAMtiyoM ne aisA kahA hai ki, 'mala, vikSepa aura ajJAna jAe~ to mokSa hogaa|' ajJAna ke bAre meM donoM kaoNmana haiN| rAga-dveSa kA AdhAra ajJAna hai| ajJAna jAe to sAre hI karma khapate jaaeNge| ajJAna kisase jAtA hai? jJAna se| nijasvarUpa ke ajJAna se hI mokSa rukA huA hai| karma karanevAlA kauna hogA? Apako kyA lagatA hai? praznakartA : aatmaa| dAdAzrI : AtmA kriyAvAdI hotA hogA? yaha bahuta samajhane jaisA hai| koI eka karma bhI nahIM khapA sktaa| saMvara (karma kA cArja honA baMda ho jAnA) ho taba karma khapatA hai| yaha to, Azrava (karma ke udaya kI zuruAta) cala rahA ho vahA~ karma kisa taraha khapeMge? karma khapAnA aura Azrava hote rahanA ve donoM virodhAbhAsa hai| karma khapAne hoM to pahale saMvara cAhie, parantu jIvAjIva kA bheda jAne binA kucha ho sake vaisA nahIM hai| azubhakarma bhogatA hai aura zubhakarma bA~dhatA hai, itanA ho sakatA hai| bAkI karma baMdhane rukate nahIM haiN| praznakartA : kaIbAra manuSya gira jAtA hai, jala jAtA hai, usameM sAmane
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________________ 251 252 AptavANI-4 hai| isa akrama vijJAna ke kAraNa niraMtara zuddha upayoga meM rahA jA sake vaisA (35) karma kI thiyarI praznakartA : Azrava kisa taraha hotA hai? dAdAzrI : mana meM kharAba vicAra Ae~, vaha udayabhAva kahalAtA hai| usa vicAra meM AtmA tanmayAkAra ho gayA to use Azrava huA kahA jAtA hai| yadi usa atikramaNa kA turanta hI pratikramaNa ho jAe to vaha miTa jAtA hai aura pratikramaNa nahIM ho to karmabaMdhana ho jAtA hai| eka hI janma bekAra jAe to koI harja nahIM, parantu yaha to dUsare sau janmoM kA baMdhana bA~dha letA hai, usakA harja hai| praznakartA : saMvara arthAt kyA? dAdAzrI : saMvara arthAt cArja honA baMda ho jAe vaha / 'maiM caMdUlAla hU~' vaha bhAna hai, taba taka Azrava aura baMdha (karmabaMdhana) donoM calate rahate haiM aura 'maiM zuddhAtmA hU~' vaha dhyAna rahA taba saMvara rahatA hai| Apako 'maiM zuddhAtmA hU~' kA dhyAna kitane samaya taka rahatA hai? praznakartA : Apake jJAna dene ke bAda niraMtara rahatA hai| dAdAzrI : isalie aba Apako baMdha nahIM hotaa| saMvara rahatA hai aura pahale ke Azrava kI nirjarA (karma kA asta honA) hotI rahatI hai| aba nayA baMdha nahIM hotA, karma nirjarA to jIva-mAtra ko hotI hI rahatI hai| svarUpa kA jJAna nahIM ho, phira bhI nirjarA hotI hai aura sAtha-sAtha baMdha bhI hotA hai| aura svarUpajJAna ke bAda sirpha nirjarA hI hotI rahatI hai| dUsare zabdoM meM cArja honA baMda ho jAtA hai, isalie sirpha DiscArja hI bAkI rahatA hai| jaise bhAva se baMdha paDe the, vaise bhAvoM se nirjarA hotI hai| sirpha itanA hI hai ki Apako nirjarA ke samaya saMvara rahatA hai, abaMdha (baMdhana rahita) pariNAma rahatA hai aura dUsaroM ko baMdha par3ate haiN| zuddha upayogI ko eka bhI karma nahIM bNdhtaa| praznakartA : eka hI samaya meM baMdha kA chedana ho sakatA hai? dAdAzrI : hA~, ho sakatA hai| zuddha upayoga ke kAraNa ho sakatA praznakartA : vAstavika tapazcaryA kauna-sI? karma kI nirjarA bhagavAna mahAvIra ne batAI hai, vaha kyA hai? dAdAzrI : jaba taka saMvara nahIM ho, taba taka sakAma (mokSa hetu ke lie) nirjarA nahIM hotii| saMvara ho to sakAma nirjarA hotI rahatI hai| vaha to gAyoM-bhaiMsoM sabhI ko akAma nirjarA hotI hI rahatI hai| saMvara utpanna ho to hI sakAma nirjarA hotI hai| praznakartA : baMdha aura anubaMdha kyA haiM vaha smjhaaie| dAdAzrI : anubaMdha se hameM karma udaya meM Ate haiN| kavirAja aura Apa mile, vaha anubaMdha se mile| aura aba usa ghaDI vApisa baMdha hotA hai| isalie jokhima kahA~ hai, vaha samajha lenA hai| praznakartA : baMdha aura anubaMdha kisa kAraNa se hote haiM? dAdAzrI : 'maiM caMdUlAla hU~, isakA kartA hU~', usa kAraNa se| praznakartA : usase baMdha hotA hai yA anubaMdha? dAdAzrI : anubaMdha hotA hai| praznakartA : to baMdha kisa taraha hotA hai? dAdAzrI : anubaMdha ho taba vahI kI vahI purAnI paraMparA calatI rahatI hai| karttApada rahe to phira se baMdha hotA hai| aura usameM yadi badalAva ho gayA aura 'maiM zuddhAtmA hU~' aura kartA 'vyavasthita' hai, vaha samajha meM A gayA to baMdha nahIM hotaa| anubaMdha hai, phira bhI baMdha nahIM hotaa| zubhAzubha kA tharmAmITara praznakartA : zubha karma aura azubha karma pahacAnane kA tharmAmITara kauna-sA hai?
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________________ (35) karma kI thiyarI 253 dAdAzrI zubha karma Ae taba hameM miThAsa lagatI hai, zAMti lagatI hai, vAtAvaraNa zAMta lagatA hai, aura azubha karma Ae taba kar3avAhaTa utpanna hotI hai, mana ko caina nahIM pdd'taa| azubha karma tapA detA hai aura zubha karma hRdaya ko AnaMda detA hai| praznakartA: bahuta bAra aisA hotA hai ki hama azubha karma bA~dha rahe hote haiM aura usa samaya bAhara kA udaya hai vaha zubha karma kA hotA hai ! dAdAzrI : hA~, vaisA ho sakatA hai| abhI Apako zubhakarmoM kA udaya ho, parantu bhItara azubha karma baMdha rahe hoM ! hai? sthUla karma sUkSma karma praznakartA: yaha karma nayA hai yA purAnA hai, vaha kisa taraha dikhatA - dAdAzrI : karma kiyA yA nahIM kiyA, vaha to kisIse bhI nahIM dekhA jA sktaa| vaha to bhagavAna ki jinheM kevalajJAna hai, ve hI jAna sakate haiN| isa jagat meM Apako jo karma dikhate haiM, unameM eka rAI jitanA bhI karma nayA nahIM hai| ina karmoM ke jJAtA dRSTA raho to nayA karma nahIM baMdhegA aura tanmayAkAra raho to naye karma baMdheMge, AtmajJAnI hone ke bAda hI karma nahIM baMdhate haiN| isa kaliyuga meM jo bhI upacAra kie jAte haiM ve upacAra, davAiyA~ galata haiN| eka manuSya dAna detA rahatA hai, dharma kI bhakti karatA rahatA hai, maMdira meM paise detA hai, pUre dina aisA sabakucha karatA rahatA hai use, jagat ke loga kyA kahate haiM ki, 'yaha dharmaniSTha hai|' aba usa manuSya ke aMdara kyA vicAra hote haiM ki, 'kisa taraha ikaTThA karU~ aura kisa taraha bhugata 'luuN|' aMdara to use aNahakka kA chIna lene kI icchA hotI hai| isa kaliyuga meM logoM ko aNahakka kA chInane kI bahuta icchA rahatI hai| aNahakka kA bhoga lene ke lie loga taiyAra hote haiM! aba bAhara to bar3e-bar3e dAna de rahA hotA hai, dharma ke hI AcAra kara rahA hotA hai, parantu bhItara aNahakka kI lakSmI aura viSaya bhoga lene kA vicAra kara rahA hotA hai, isalie 254 AptavANI-4 bhagavAna usakA eka paisA bhI jamA nahIM krte| usakA kyA kAraNa hai? kAraNa yaha hai ki ve sabhI sthUlakarma haiN| bAhara jo dikhate haiM, AcAra meM jo dikhate haiM, ve sabhI sthUlakarma haiN| aura una sthUla karmoM kA phala yahIM ke yahIM mila jAtA hai| loga isa sthUlakarma ko hI agale janma ke karma mAnate haiN| parantu usakA phala to yahIM ke yahIM mila jAtA hai| aura sUkSmakarma, ki jo aMdara baMdha rahA hai, jisakI logoM ko khabara hI nahIM, usakA phala agale janma meM milatA hai| Aja kisI vyakti ne corI kI, to vaha corI sthUlakarma hai| use isakA phala isI janma meM mila jAtA hai| jaise ki use apayaza milatA hai, pulisavAlA mAratA hai, ye saba phala use yahIM ke yahIM mila hI jaaegaa| ye dAnezvarI dAna dete haiM, to loga usakI kIrti gAte rahate haiM ki 'vAha ! bar3e dAnezvarI seTha haiM!' aura seTha to aMdara 'murge' mAra rahA hotA hai! aMdara arthAt sUkSmakarma karate haiM vaha / yAnI yaha jo sthUla karma dikhate haiM, sthUla AcAra dikhatA hai, vaha 'vahA~' kAma meM nahIM aataa| 'vahA~' to 'sUkSma' vicAra kyA hai ? sUkSmakarma kyA hai, utanA hI 'vahA~' kAma meM AtA hai| aba pUrA jagat sthUlakarma para hI eDajasTa ho gayA hai| ye sAdhu, saMnyAsI, sabhI tyAga karate haiM, tapa karate haiM, japa karate haiM, parantu vaha to sArA sthUlakarma hai| usameM sUkSmakarma kahA~ hai? agale janma ke lie sUkSmakarma usameM nahIM hai| ye jo karate haiM, una sUkSmakarma kA yaza unheM yahA~ para hI mila jAtA hai| AcArya mahArAja pratikramaNa karate haiM, sAmAyika karate haiM, vyAkhyAna dete haiM, pravacana karate haiM, para vaha to unakA AcAra hai, vaha sthUla karma hai| para bhItara kyA hai, vaha dekhanA hai| bhItara jo cArja hotA hai, vaha 'vahA~' para kAma aaegaa| abhI jisa AcAra kA pAlana karate haiM, vaha DiscArja hai| pUrA bAhyAcAra hI DiscArja svarUpa hai| vahA~ ye loga kahate haiM ki, 'maiMne sAmAyika kI, dhyAna kiyA, dAna diyaa|' to tujhe usakA yaza yahIM para mila jaaegaa| usameM agale bhava kA kyA lenA-denA? bhagavAna aisI koI kaccI mAyA nahIM haiM ki tere aise ghoTAle ko calane deN| bAhara sAmAyika karatA hai aura bhItara jAne kyA karatA hai| eka seTha sAmAyika karane baiThe the, to bAhara kisIne daravAz2A khaTakhaTAyA, seThAnI ne jAkara daravAz2A kholaa| eka bhAI Ae the, unhoMne
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________________ (35) karma kI thiyarI 255 pUchA, 'seTha kahA~ gae haiM?' taba seThAnI ne javAba diyA, 'kcrekhaane'| seTha ne aMdara baiThe-baiThe yaha sunA aura aMdara jA~ca kI to vAstava meM ve kacarekhAne meM hI gae hue the! aMdara to kharAba vicAra hI cala rahe the aura bAhara sAmAyika kara rahe the| bhagavAna aise ghoTAle ko nahIM calane dete| aMdara sAmAyika rahatA ho aura bAhara samAyika na bhI ho to usakA 'vahA~ para clegaa| ye bAhara ke dikhAve 'vahA~' caleM, aise nahIM haiN| sthUlakarma arthAt kyA, vaha samajhAU~ tujhe ekadama gussA AyA, tujhe gussA nahIM lAnA phira bhI vaha A jAtA hai, aisA hotA hai yA nahIM hotA? praznakartA hotA hai| : dAdAzrI : vaha gussA AyA, usakA phala yahIM para turanta mila jAtA hai| loga kahate haiM ki 'jAne do na ise, yaha to hai hI bahuta krodhI / ' are koI to use sAmane dhaula bhI mAra detA hai| yAnI apayaza kA yA aura kisI taraha se use yahIM ke yahIM phala mila jAtA hai| yAnI gussA honA vaha sthUla karma hai aura gussA AyA usake bhItara Aja kA terA bhAva kyA hai ki 'gussA karanA hI cAhie', to vaha AnevAle janma kA phira se gussA karane kA hisAba hai| terA Aja kA bhAva hai ki gussA nahIM karanA cAhie, tere mana meM nakkI ho ki gussA nahIM hI karanA hai, phira bhI gussA ho jAtA hai, to tujhe agale bhava ke lie baMdhana nahIM rhaa| isa sthUlakarma meM tujhe gussA AyA to usakI tujhe isa bhava meM mAra khAnI pdd'egii| phira bhI tujhe agale janma ke lie baMdhana nahIM hogaa| kyoMki sUkSmakarma meM terA nizcaya hai ki gussA karanA hI nahIM cAhie aura aba koI vyakti kisIke Upara gussA nahIM hotA, phira bhI mana meM kahatA hai ki ina logoM ke Upara gussA kareM to hI ye sIdhe hoM aise haiN| to isase vaha agale bhava meM phira gussevAlA ho jAtA hai| yAnI bAhara jo gussA hotA hai, vaha sthUla karma hai aura usa samaya bhItara jo bhAva hotA hai, vaha sUkSmakarma hai| sthUla karma se bilakula baMdhana nahIM hai, yadi ise samajho to ! isalie yaha sAinsa maiMne naI taraha se rakhA hai| abhI taka duniyA ko yahI samajhAyA gayA hai ki sthUla karma se baMdhana hai aura isIlie loga ghabarAte rahate haiN| AptavANI-4 aba ghara meM strI ho, zAdI kI ho aura mokSa meM jAnA hai, to mana meM hotA rahatA hai ki 'maiMne to zAdI kI hai to aba kisa taraha mokSa meM jA sakU~gA?' are, strI bAdhaka nahIM hai, tere sUkSma karma bAdhaka haiN| ye tere sthUla karma bilkula bAdhaka nahIM haiN| vaha maiMne opana kiyA hai aura yaha sAinsa opana nahIM karU~ to bhItara ghabarAhaTa - ghabarAhaTa aura ghabarAhaTa rahatI hai| bhItara ajaMpA, ajaMpA, ajaMpA rahatA hai! ve sAdhu kahate haiM ki hama mokSa meM jAe~ge / are, Apa kisa taraha mokSa meM jAoge? kyA chor3anA hai, vaha to Apa jAnate nahIM ho| Apane to sthUla ko chor3A hai, A~khoM se dikhe, kAna se sunAI de, vaha chor3A hai| usakA phala to isa bhava meM hI mila jaaegaa| yaha sAinsa naye hI prakAra kA hai! yaha to akrama vijJAna hai, jisase ina logoM ko hara prakAra se phesiliTI ho jAtI hai| kyA patnI chor3akara bhAgA jAtA hai ? aura patnI ko chor3akara bhAga jAo aura apanA mokSa ho aisA ho sakatA hai kyA? kisIko duHkha dekara apanA mokSa ho, aisA saMbhava hai kyA? isalie bIvI-baccoM ke prati sabhI pharja nibhAo aura patnI jo 'bhojana' de vaha caina se khAo, parantu vaha saba sthUla hai, vaha samajha jaanaa| sthUla ke pIche ApakA abhiprAya aisA nahIM rahanA cAhie ki jisase sUkSma meM cArja ho| isalie maiMne Apako 'pA~ca vAkya' die haiN| bhItara aisA abhiprAya nahIM rahanA cAhie ki 'yaha karekTa hai, maiM jo karatA hU~, jo bhogatA hU~, vaha karekTa hai|' vaisA abhiprAya nahIM rahanA caahie| basa itanA hI ApakA abhiprAya badalA ki sabakucha ho gyaa| 256 bacce meM kharAba guNa hoM to mA~-bApa unheM DA~Tate haiM aura kahate phirate haiM ki, 'merA beTA to aisA hai, nAlAyaka hai, cora hai|' are, vaha aisA karatA hai, usa kare hue ko rakha na eka tarapha para abhI usake bhAva badala na ! usake bhItara ke abhiprAya badala na !! usake bhAva kaise badalane, vaha mA~bApa ko AtA nahIM hai| kyoMki sarTiphAiDa mA~-bApa nahIM haiN| sarTiphAiDa nahIM haiM aura mA~-bApa bana baiThe haiM! bacce ko yadi corI kI burI Adata par3a gaI ho to mA~-bApa use DA~Tate rahate haiM, mArate rahate haiM, ki 'tujhameM akkala nahIM hai, tU aise karatA hai, vaise karatA hai|' aise jhiMjhor3ate rahate haiN| isa taraha mA~-bApa eksesa (z2arUrata se jyAdA) bolate haiM! kabhI bhI eksesa bolA
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________________ (35) karma kI thiyarI 257 huA helpa nahIM krtaa| isalie beTA kyA karatA hai? mana meM nakkI karatA hai ki, 'bhale hI bolate rhe| maiM to aisA hI kruuNgaa|' to isa beTe ko mA~bApa aura adhika cora banAte haiN| dvApara aura tretA aura satyuga meM jo hathiyAra the unakA Aja kaliyuga meM loga upayoga karane lage haiN| beTe ko badalane kA tarIkA alaga hai| usake bhAva badalane haiN| usa para prema se hAtha pherakara kahanA ki, 'A beTe, bhale hI terI mA~ cillAe, vaha cillAe, para tU isa taraha kisIkI corI kare vaise koI terI jeba meM se corI kare to tujhe sukha lagegA? usa samajha tujhe aMdara kaisA duHkha hogA? vaise hI sAmanevAle ko bhI duHkha nahIM hogA? isa taraha pUrI thiyarI beTe ko samajhAnI pdd'egii| eka bAra usake aMdara aisA baiTha jAnA cAhie ki yaha galata hai| Apa use mArate ho, to usase to beTA haTha kregaa| sirpha tarIkA hI badalanA hai| yaha to bApa thAnedAra jaisA hotA hai, ghara meM patnI ha~sa nahIM sakatI, bacce ha~sa nahIM sakate, mu~ha nahIM khola skte| itanA adhika to usakA dabadabA hotA hai| aisA dabadabA hotA hogA? hama koI bAgha yA siMha haiM? hamArA dabadabA nahIM honA caahie| eka A~kha meM rauba honA cAhie aura dUsarI A~kha se prema karanA caahie| rauba isalie ki ve ulTe rAste, ulTI paTarI para nahIM car3ha jaaeN| gAr3I meM bhI z2aMjIra khIMcane kA sAdhana rakhate haiM na, kucha gira jAe usake lie? parantu sigareTa kA paukeTa gira jAe aura hama z2aMjIra khIMceM, vaha gunAha kahalAegA na? pUrA jagat sthUla ko hI samajhA hai| sUkSmakarma ko samajhA hI nahIM hai| sUkSma ko samajhA hotA to yaha dazA hI nahIM hotI ! eka seTha ne pacAsa hajAra rupaye dAna meM die, to usake mitra ne use pUchA, 'itane sAre rupaye de die?' taba seTha bole, 'maiM to eka paisA bhI dU~ aisA nahIM huuN| ye to isa meyara ke dabAva ke kAraNa dene pdd'e|' aba isakA phala vahA~ kyA milegA? pacAsa hajAra kA dAna diyA, vaha sthUla karma, usakA phala yahIM kA yahIM seTha ko mila jAtA hai| loga 'vAha vAha' karate haiN| kIrtigAna karate haiM aura seTha ne bhItara sUkSma karma meM kyA cArja kiyA? taba kaheM, 'eka paisA bhI dU~ aisA nahIM huuN|' usakA phala AnevAle bhava meM milegaa| AptavANI-4 to agale bhava meM seTha paisA bhI dAna meM nahIM de skegaa| aba itanI sUkSma bAta kise samajha meM Ae? praznakartA: dAdA, sUkSmakarma aura sthUlakarma ke karttA alaga-alaga 258 haiM? dAdAzrI : hA~, donoM ke karttA alaga haiN| ye jo sthUlakarma haiM, ve DiscArja karma haiN| ye beTariyA~ hotI haiM na, ve cArja karane ke bAda DiscArja hotI rahatI haiM na? hameM DiscArja nahIM karanI hoM, phira bhI ve hotI hI rahatI haiM na? praznakartA: haaN| dAdAzrI : vaise hI ye sthUlakarma, DiscArja karma haiM, aura dUsare bhItara naye cArja ho rahe haiM, ve sUkSma karma haiN| isa bhava meM jo cArja ho rahe haiM, ve agale bhava meM DiscArja hote rheNge| aura isa janma meM pichale janma kI beTariyA~ DiscArja hotI rahatI haiN| eka mana kI beTarI, eka vANI kI beTarI aura eka deha kI beTarI ye tInoM beTariyA~ abhI DiscArja hotI hI rahatI haiM, aura bhItara naI tIna beTariyA~ cArja ho rahI haiN| yaha maiM bolatA hU~, to tujhe aisA lagatA hai ki 'maiM' hI bola rahA huuN| para nahIM, yaha to rikaoNrDa bola rahI hai| yaha to vANI kI beTarI DiscArja ho rahI hai| maiM bolatA hI nahIM, aura ye sAre jagat ke loga kyA kahate haiM ki 'maiMne kaisI bAta kI, maiMne kaisA bolA!' ye sabhI kalpita bhAva haiM, sirpha igoiz2ama hI karatA hai| igoijama jAe to phira dUsarA kucha rahA? yaha igoiz2ama hI ajJAnatA hai aura yahI bhagavAna kI mAyA hai| kyoMki karatA hai koI aura aura khuda ko aisA eDajasTamenTa ho jAtA hai ki 'maiM hI kara rahA hU~!' ye sUkSmakarma jo aMdara cArja hote haiM, ve phira kampyUTara meM jAte haiN| eka vyaSTi kampyUTara hai aura dUsarA samaSTi kampyUTara hai| vyaSTi meM pahale sUkSmakarma jAte haiM aura vahA~ se phira samaSTi kampyUTara meM jAte haiN| phira samaSTi kArya karatA rahatA hai| ye dUsare saba sUkSmakarma cArja hote haiM, unakI bahuta
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________________ (35) karma kI thiyarI 259 260 AptavANI-4 ciMtA nahIM hai, parantu 'maiM caMdUbhAI hU~' aise riyalI spIkiMga bolane se karma baMdhate haiN| 'maiM kauna hU~' itanA hI yadi samajha gayA to taba se hI sAre karmoM se chuuttaa| arthAt 'yaha' sarala aura sIdhA vijJAna diyA hai, nahIM to karor3oM upAyoM se bhI ebsolyUTa huA jA sake aisA nahIM hai aura 'yaha' to bilakula 'thiyarama oNpha ebsolyUTIz2ama' hai! bure karmoM se chuTakArA praznakartA : bure karma hama karate haiM, parantu unameM se nikala jAne kI himmata nahIM aatii| dAdAzrI : himmata nahIM aatii| bure kAma kA abhI bojha itanA adhika bar3ha gayA hai to kisa taraha himmata Ae? isalie ekabAra to divAliyA hI nikAla denA hai, phira udhAra cukAnA hai| udhAra to cukAnA hI par3egA na? maiM Apako rAstA batA dU~gA uskaa| dAdAzrI : puNya aura pApa donoM hI karma kahalAte haiN| parantu puNya kA karma kATatA nahIM hai aura pApa kA karma hamArI icchAnusAra nahIM hone detA aura kATatA hai| praznakartA : jinheM bhautika sukha milate haiM, unhoMne kisa prakAra ke karma kie hoM taba ve milate haiM? dAdAzrI : yadi koI du:khI ho rahA ho unheM sukha de, usase puNya baMdhatA hai aura pariNAma svarUpa vaisA sukha hameM milatA hai| kisIko duHkha do to Apako du:kha milegaa| Apako jaisA pasaMda Ae vaisA denaa| do prakAra ke puNya haiN| eka puNya se bhautika sukha milatA hai aura dUsarA eka aise prakAra kA puNya hai ki jo hameM saccI AjAdI prApta karavAtA praznakartA : manuSya samajhatA hai ki mRtyu ke bAda dUsarA janma hai, phira bhI bure karma kyoM karatA hai? sahI karma karane kA rAstA kyA hai? dAdAzrI : khuda kI icchA ke viruddha bure karma karane par3ate haiN| subaha uThe taba se ApakI sattA meM kucha bhI nahIM hai| sabakucha parasattA ke hAtha meM hai| vaha parasattA eka zakti ke hAtha meM hai, jise hama 'vyavasthita' kahate haiN| yaha 'vyavasthita zakti' kyA karatI hai? Apake puNya kA udaya Ae taba saba anukUla saMyoga ikaTThe kara detI hai aura pApa kA udaya Ae to una sabhI anukUla saMyogoM ko bikhera detI hai| arthAt sabakucha parasattA meM cala rahA hai| phira acche karma hoM yA bure karma! jaba taka paramArtha samyak darzana nahIM hotA, taba taka jIva parasattA meM hI rahatA hai| niMdA kA karmabaMdhana kisI vyakti kI niMdA nahIM karanI caahie| are, unake bAre meM thor3I bAtacIta bhI nahIM karanI caahie| usameM se bhayaMkara doSa lagate haiN| usameM bhI yahA~ para satsaMga meM, paramahaMsa kI sabhA meM to kisI ke bAre meM thor3IsI bhI bAtacIta nahIM karanI caahie| eka thor3I-sI bhI ulTI kalpanA se jJAna para kitanA bhArI AvaraNa A jAtA hai, to phira ina 'mahAtmAoM' kI TIkA, niMdA kareM to kitanA bhArI AvaraNa A jAegA? satsaMga meM to dUdha meM cInI ghula jAtI hai, vaise ghula-mila jAnA caahie| yaha buddhi hI aMdara dakhala karatI hai| hama sabakA sabakucha jAnate haiM phira bhI kisIke bAre meM eka akSara bhI nahIM bolte| eka akSara bhI ulTA bolane se jJAna para bar3A AvaraNa A jAtA hai| karma, pApa-puNya ke praznakartA : pApa aura karma eka hI haiM yA alaga? __ 'yaha mujhe dhokhA de gayA' vaisA bolA, to vaha bhayaMkara karma bA~dhatA hai| isake badale to do dhaula mAra le to kama karma bNdhegaa| vaha to jaba dhokhA khAne kA kAla utpanna hotA hai, apane karma kA udaya hotA hai tabhI dhokhA khAte haiN| usameM sAmanevAle kA kyA doSa? usane to balki hamArA
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________________ (35) karma kI thiyarI karma khapA diyaa| vaha to nimitta hai| 261 karma chedana kI sattA praznakartA: karma kA phala to bhoganA hI par3egA na ? dAdAzrI : haaN| karma kA niyama hI aisA hai| praznakartA: 'jJAnI' unameM se chur3avA sakate haiM? dAdAzrI : 'jJAnI puruSa' to Apake karmoM ko bhasmIbhUta kara dete haiN| parantu usameM do prakAra ke karma hote haiM, eka barpha ke rUpa meM jama cuke haiM ve aura dUsare pAnI yA bhApa ke rUpa meM hote haiN| jJAnI pAnI aura bhApa ke rUpa meM rahe hue karmoM ko naSTa kara dete haiN| parantu barpharUpa ho cuke karmoM ko bhoganA hI par3egA ! parantu svarUpajJAna dene ke bAda una karmoM ke bhugatAna meM pharka par3a jAtA hai| sUlI kA ghAva sUI jaisA lagatA hai| 'jJAnI puruSa ' kAraNa svarUpa meM rahe hue karmoM kA nAza kara dete haiM, parantu Aja jo kArya svarUpa ke karma haiM, barpharUpa ho cuke haiM, unheM to bhugatanA hI pdd'egaa| prabhusmaraNa se helpa praznakartA: hamAre karma hameM tAreM yA Duboe~, usameM prabhusmaraNa kyA kAma karatA hai? dAdAzrI prabhu prakAzaka haiM, sarva prakAzaka haiN| yadi unheM yAda nahIM kare to prakAza nahIM milegA, utanI hI ar3acana hai| bAkI unheM dUsarA kucha lenA-denA nahIM hai| hameM yadi prakAza kI AvazyakatA hai, ubarane meM yA DUbane meM helpa cAhie to prabhusmaraNa karanA caahie| unheM yAda karo to Apako kucha prakAza mile bagaira rahegA hI nhiiN| usase Apake karma acche hoMge, parantu prabhusmaraNa sacce dila se honA caahie| usameM gappa nahIM calatI ki bhagavAna Upara haiN| Upara to koI bApa bhI nahIM hai| bhItara baiThe haiM, ve hI bhagavAna haiN| bhagavAna ko bhI karmabaMdhana praznakartA : pRthvI para jo-jo bhagavAna ho cuke haiM, RSabhadeva, AptavANI-4 mahAvIra, nemInAtha ve sabhI karma ke baMdhana meM Ae hue the kyA? dAdAzrI : sabhI karma ke baMdhana meM Ae hue the, tabhI to mAtA ke peTa se janma huaa| koI bhagavAna aise nahIM haiM ki jo mAtA ke peTa se nahIM janme hoN| jo bhagavAna ho cuke haiM, unhoMne do yA tIna janmoM pahale AtmA kA jJAna prApta kara liyA thA, phira aMta meM bhagavAna hue the| jinheM AtmA kA lakSya prApta ho cukA ho, ve do-cAra janmoM meM bhagavAna ho sakate haiN| sIdhesIdhe mokSa meM jAnA ho to vaise bhI jAyA jA sakatA hai aura jagatkalyANa karanA ho to bhagavAna huA jA sakatA hai, donoM meM se eka hotA hai| 'jJAnI puruSa' ke divya karma 262 zAstrakAroM ne jJAnI ke pratyeka karma ko divyakarma kahA hai, kyoMki svayaM saMpUrNa nihaMkArI, saMpUrNa akarttApada meM baiThe hue hote haiM, isalie vItarAga kahalAte haiN| isa kAla meM saMpUrNa vItarAga nahIM hote haiN| hama vItarAga haiM parantu saMpUrNa nahIM haiN| hama jagat ke tamAma jIvoM ke sAtha vItarAga haiM, sirpha hamAre jagatkalyANa karane ke karma ke prati hI hameM rAga rahatA hai| jagat kalyANa karane kI khaTapaTa ke lie hameM thor3A rAga raha gayA hai| vaha rAga bhI karma khapAne jitanA hI hai| varnA 'hameM' to hamArA mokSa niraMtara baratatA hI rahatA hai| jJAnI ko kAla, karma aura mAyA sparza nahIM krte| dravya-kSetrakAla-bhAva aura bhava se apratibaddha rUpa se vicareM, ve jJAnI / karma kA svarUpa loga kahate haiM ki karma lipaTe hue haiN| parantu karma na to strI jAti haiM na hI puruSa jAti / ve to napusaMka haiM aura Apa khuda paramAtmA ho ! karma vAstava meM jar3a nahIM haiM aura cetana bhI nahIM hai, parantu nizcetanacetana hai| karmoM kA phala milatA hai, vaha bhItara AtmA birAjamAna hai isalie milatA hai| nizcetana cetana ko zuddha cetana kA sparza hone se karma cArja hote haiM, khuda kA svarUpa jAna le taba karma baMdhane baMda ho jAte haiN| praznakartA: AtmA aura karma kA kaisA saMbaMdha hai?
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________________ (35) karma kI thiyarI 263 dAdAzrI : 'rileTiva' saMbaMdha hai| praznakartA: karma AtmA ko pha~sAte haiM yA AtmA karma ko bA~dhatA dAdAzrI : karma AtmA ko pha~sAte haiM / pudgala kI itanI adhika zakti hai ki dekho na aMdara paramAtmA kaise pha~sa gae haiM! praznakartA: AtmA cAhe to karma ko khapA sakatA hai? dAdAzrI : khuda baMdhA huA kisa taraha se chUTa sakatA hai? vaha to jaba AtmA svabhAva meM Ae to karma khpeNge| svabhAva meM Ane ke bAda to cAhe jaise karma hoM, phira bhI naSTa kara detA hai| 'jJAnI puruSa' eka ghaMTe meM to karmoM kA kaise dhu~A ur3A dete haiN| tabhI to Apako AtmA kA niraMtara lakSya baiTha jAtA hai, nahIM to baiThe hI nahIM ! karma pudgala svabhAva ke haiM aura ve unake para pariNAma batAte hI rheNge| hama 'zuddhAtmA' haiM, vaha sva-pariNAma haiN| para pariNAma jJeya svarUpa haiM aura 'hama' jJAtA svarUpa haiN| karma aura 'vyavasthita' praznakartA: Apa jise 'vyavasthita' kahate haiM, vaha karma ke anusAra dAdAzrI : karma se jagat nahIM calatA hai| jagat ko 'vyavasthita' zakti calAtI hai| Apako yahA~ para kauna lekara AyA? karma? nhiiN| Apako 'vyavasthita' le aayaa| karma to bhItara par3A huA hI thaa| vaha kala taka kyoM lekara nahIM AyA aura Aja hI lAyA? 'vyavasthita' kAla ikaTThA karatA hai, kSetra ikaTThA karatA hai, sAre saMyoga ikaTThe ho gae, taba Apa yahA~ para aae| karma to 'vyavasthita' kA eka aMza hai| bhAvabIja ke sAmane sAvadhAna bhagavAna ne kahA hai, 'tU paramAtmA hai| dravya-bhAva se svataMtra hai| saMyoga 264 AptavANI-4 mAtra se svataMtra hai|' jaba ki loga saMyogoM se adhika cipaTa ge| hamAre pAsa hAtha meM bIja ho aura dUsarA bIja nIce jamIna meM gira gayA ho to una donoM meM pharka nahIM kahA jAegA? arthAt bhagavAna ne kyA kahA hai ki hAtha kA bIja ho use dhIre se idhara-udhara rakha denA, parantu gira cuke bIjoM kI khoja krnaa| kyoMki dUsare sAinTiphika sarakamasTenziyala eviDensa use mila jAe~ to uga nikalegA aura bIja jamIna meM girA arthAt use dUsare eviDensa mila jAe~ge, isalie vahA~ para sAvadhAna rhnaa| z2arA-sI koMpala ugI ho to use turanta hI ukhAr3akara pheMka denA, nahIM to vRkSa rUpa ho jaaegaa| abhI bhItara dUsare Ar3e- Ter3he bhAva Ate haiM, ve jo par3a cuke haiM ve bIja haiN| Apako aba jIvajaMtu nahIM mArane haiM, phira bhI jaMtu Apake paira ke nIce kucalA jAe to samajhanA ki yaha par3a cukA bIja hai| vahA~ jAgRta rahakara pratikramaNa kara lenA / jagat meM yajJa calatA hI rahatA hai, unameM sAre karma homa karate rahate haiM aura naye karma baMdhate haiN| karma laya kI pratIti praznakartA: karmasaMskAra kA vilaya ho gayA, vaha kisa taraha patA calegA? dAdAzrI : jinake saMbaMdha meM hamArA karma ho, vahA~ rAga yA dveSa nahIM rahe, vahA~ samajhanA ki hamArA karma vilIna ho gayA hai aura hameM pasaMda yA nApasaMda rahatA ho to samajhanA ki karma kI sattA abhI cala rahI hai| pudgala ke karmabaMdhana kisa taraha? praznakartA: paramANu aura karmabaMdhana una donoM kA liMka kyA hai? karmabaMdhana kisa taraha hote haiM? dAdAzrI AtmA kI caitanyazakti aisI hai ki roMga bilIfa se
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________________ (35) karma kI thiyarI 265 266 AptavANI-4 karmavAle ko karmaphala dekara Urdhvagati meM le jAtI hai, jaba ki zAtira ho vaha nahIM pakar3A jaataa| isalie vaha usakI adhogati meM jAne kI nizAnI vikalpa hote haiN| yaha maiM hU~, yaha maiM hU~', usase roMga bilIfa khar3I hotI hai aura vahI karmabaMdhana hai| jaise ki darpaNa meM dekhane se turanta hI phoTo A jAtA hai, vaise hI paramANu sakriya hone ke kAraNa jaise hI vikalpa huA ki turanta hI vaise sabhI paramANu utpanna ho jAte haiN| mUla paramANu 'tatva svarUpa' haiN| phira jaba milate haiM taba avasthAvAle ho jAte haiN| ye sabhI sakriya ke camatkAra haiN| AtmA ko yaha pudgala tatva hI ulajhAtA hai| usakI sakriyatA hI ulajhAtI hai| pudgala kI sakriyatA aisI hai ki svayaM ajIva hai phira bhI jIva jaisA bhAsita hotA hai| jaise ki yaha cir3iyA khuda ke pratibiMba ko coMca mAratI hai, vaise! gAr3ha karmoM se hala praznakartA : gAr3ha karma hote haiM, unhIM ke kAraNa hameM du:kha bhugatanA par3atA hai? gAr3ha karma arthAt kyA? kucha karma to yoM hI ur3a jAte haiN| kucha karma to pachatAvA karane se ur3a jAte haiN| aura jo pachatAvA karane ke bAvajUda bhI bhogane hI par3eM, unheM gAr3ha karma kahA hai, unheM bhoganA hI par3atA hai| jaina unheM nikAcita karma kahate haiN| kisIne hama para thUkA ho aura usa para pAnI DAleM, to turanta hI dhula jAtA hai| aura kisIne aisA thUkA ho ki sAbuna se ghisate raheM, dhote raheM, to bhI nahIM jaataa| atyaMta gAr3ha karma hotA hai| praznakartA : 'samabhAva se nikAla' karane kA dRr3ha nizcaya hone ke bAvajUda jhagar3A khar3A hI rahatA hai vaha kisalie? dAdAzrI : apane hI karma kie hue haiM, isalie apanI hI bhUla hai| kisI anya kA doSa isa jagat meM hai hI nhiiN| dUsare to nimitta mAtra haiN| du:kha ApakA hai aura sAmanevAle nimitta ke hAthoM diyA jA rahA hai| sasura kI mRtyu kI ciTThI posTamena dekara jAe, usameM posTamena kA kyA doSa? praznakartA : gAr3ha karma kise kahA jAtA hai? dAdAzrI : mana-vacana-kAyA kI pUrNa ekAgratA se kare yA jisameM dUsare virodhAbhAsI bhAva nahIM hoM, unase bhayaMkara gAr3ha karma baMdhate haiN| yahA~' para AtmArtha kie hue hoM vaise gAr3ha karma do yA tIna janmoM meM chur3avAte haiM aura saMsAra ke gAr3ha karma to paripakva hone meM bahuta samaya lete haiN| isalie to yaha saMsAra khar3A rahA hai na! koI sIdhA vyakti nayA-nayA jeba kATane jAegA to pakar3A jAegA, kyoMki usakA karma turanta vipAka ho jAtA hai aura isa karma se vaha chUTa jAtA hai| jaba ki zAtira cora pakar3A hI nahIM jaataa| aba loga to jo pahale pakar3A gayA, use gunahagAra kheNge| parantu kudarata tere phevara meM hai| halke dAdAzrI: kitanI jagaha para aisA hotA hai? sau-eka jagaha para? praznakartA : eka hI jagaha para hotA hai| dAdAzrI : to vaha nikAcita karma hai| vaha nikAcita karma kisase dhulatA hai? AlocanA, pratikramaNa aura pratyAkhyAna se| usase karma halkA ho jAtA hai| usake bAda jJAtA-dRSTA rahA jAtA hai| usake lie to niraMtara pratikramaNa karanA par3atA hai| jitane phorsa se nikAcita huA ho, utane hI phorsavAle pratikramaNa se vaha dhulatA hai| praznakartA : ye nikAcita karma haiM, unake sAmane puruSArtha kisa taraha karanA cAhie? dAdAzrI : unameM atyaMta jAgRti rakhanI par3atI hai| phisalana ho vahA~ para kaise jAgRta rahate ho? jaMgala meM bAgha-bher3iye dikheM, vahA~ para kitanI jAgRti rahatI hai? vaisI hI jAgRti isameM rahe, tabhI usameM se chUTA jA sakatA
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________________ (35) karma kI thiyarI 267 268 AptavANI-4 niSkAma karma arthAt usake Age ke pariNAma kI icchA kie binA karate jaanaa| kRSNa bhagavAna ne bahuta suMdara cIz2a dI hai, parantu kisIse vaha ho nahIM sakatA na? manuSya kA sAmarthya hI nahIM hai na! isa niSkAma karma ko yathArtha rUpa se samajhanA muzkila hai| isIlie to kRSNa bhagavAna ne kahA thA ki merI gItA kA sUkSmatama artha samajhanevAlA koI ekAdha hI hogA! praznakartA : niSkAma bhAva se karma kareM to karma nahIM baMdhege na? 'niSkAma karma' kisa taraha kie jAte haiM? praznakartA : punarjanma hotA hai, vaha Asakti kA pariNAma hai yA karma ke pariNAma se hai? dAdAzrI : karma ke pariNAma se Asakti rahatI hai aura Asakti se punarjanma hotA hai| Asakti, vaha sTepiMga hai| praznakartA : niSkAma karma kareM phira bhI punarjanma hotA hai? dAdAzrI : niSkAma karma karo phira bhI punarjanma baMda ho jAe vaisA nahIM hai| vaha to svarUpajJAna ho jAe, tabhI punarjanma rukatA hai| praznakartA : niSkAma karma meM kisa taraha karma baMdhate haiM? dAdAzrI : 'maiM caMdUbhAI hU~' karake niSkAma karma karane jAo to karma kA baMdhana hI hai| niSkAma karma karane se hI yaha saMsAra acchI taraha calatA hai| vAstava meM niSkAma karma 'svayaM kauna hai?' vaha nakkI hue binA ho hI nahIM sktaa| jaba taka krodha-mAna-mAyA-lobha haiM, taba taka niSkAma karma kisa taraha ho sakatA hai? khuda hI mAna letA hai ki 'maiM yaha niSkAma karma kara rahA hU~', jaba ki vAstava meM usakA kartA koI aura hI hai| jisa-jisa prakAra kI kriyAe~ hotI haiM ve saba DiscArja hI haiN| 'maiM niSkAma karma karatA hU~' aisA mAnatA hai, vahI sArA baMdhana hai| niSkAma karma kA kartA hai, taba taka baMdhana dAdAzrI : niSkAma bhAva se karma karo, parantu 'Apa caMdUbhAI hI ho' aura 'maiM caMdUbhAI hU~' vaha bilIfa hai, taba taka niSkAma bhAva se karma karoge to usakA puNya bNdhegaa| karma to baMdhegA hii| kartA huA ki karmabaMdhana huaa| praznakartA : niSkAmI kisa taraha huA jA sakatA hai? dAdAzrI : pariNAma kA vicAra kie binA kAma karate jaao| sAhaba mujhe gussA kareMge, DA~TeMge, aise vicAra kie binA kAma kare jaao| parIkSA dene kA vicAra kiyA ho to phira 'pAsa huA jAegA yA nahIM, pAsa huA jAegA yA nahIM' aise vicAra kie binA parIkSA dete jaao| kRSNa bhagavAna kI eka bhI bAta nahIM samajhe aura Upara se kahate haiM ki kRSNa lIlAvAle the! are, Apa lIlAvAle yA kRSNa lIlAvAle? kRSNa to vAsudeva the, nara meM se nArAyaNa hue the! AtmA, anAdi se zuddha hI! vItarAgoM ne kahA hai ki karma aura AtmA donoM anAdi se haiN| yAnI usakI koI Adi nahIM huI, isalie karma ke AdhAra para hI bhAva utpanna hote haiM aura bhAva ke AdhAra para ye karma utpanna hote haiM aura aisA niraMtara calatA hI rahatA hai| AtmA vahIM ke vahIM rahatA hai| karanA, karavAnA aura anumodana karanA praznakartA : karanA, karavAnA aura anumodana karanA usameM kyA pharka hai| kRSNa bhagavAna ne logoM ko dUsarA rAstA batAyA ki jise karane se bhautika sukha milate haiN| niSkAma karma kise kahA jAtA hai? apane ghara kI AmadanI AtI hai, jamIna kI AtI hai, usake alAvA yaha chApAkhAnA lagAyA usameM se milegaa| isa taraha, bAraha mahIne meM bIsa-paccIsa hajAra mileMge, aisA mAnakara karane jAe aura phira pA~ca hajAra mileM to lagatA hai ki bIsa hajAra kA nukasAna ho gyaa| aura dhAraNA hI nahIM rakhI ho to?
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________________ 270 AptavANI-4 dAdAzrI : anumodanA do prakAra kI hai| eka to anumodanA karanevAle ke AdhAra para hI sArI kriyAe~ hotI haiN| aura dUsare prakAra kI anumodanA meM vaha sirpha hA~, hA~ karatA hai, 'hA~ sAhaba, hA~ sAhaba' karatA hai| usameM bahuta doSa nahIM hai| ye saba koI kriyA kara rahe hoM usameM Apa, 'hA~ bhAI, mujhe acchA lagA, acchA hai' khaa| parantu usakI bahuta qImata nahIM hai| Apa aisA nahIM kahate, phira bhI ye loga karane hI vAle the| aura yadi anumodanA se hI kriyA ho, vaha nahIM ho to nahIM hogA, usakA bahuta bhArI doSa hai| bahuta qImatI anumodanA kisakI kahI jAtI hai ki jisakI anumodanA se jagat cala rahA hai| (35) karma kI thiyarI 269 dAdAzrI : aisA hai ki anumodana karanevAle ko bhayaMkara doSa lagatA hai| karavAtA hai, usakA sekanDarI doSa hai aura karanevAle kA thor3A-sA hI doSa hai| karanevAle kA khAsa doSa nahIM hai| ye kasAI bakare ko kATakara becatA hai, usakA use jo doSa lagatA hai, usake badale to jo loga kahate haiM ki, 'hameM mA~sAhAra karanA cAhie, nahIM kareM to anAja kama par3a jAegA', vaisI hI prarUpaNA karate haiM, unheM adhika doSa lagatA hai| kasAI to becAre khuda ke peTa ke lie karate haiN| aura ye kaTTara ahiMsA kA dharma pAlanevAle loga bakare( !) kATate haiM, ve kisalie kATate haiM? praznakartA: vaha samajha meM nahIM aayaa| dAdAzrI : ye bakare kATanevAle kasAI to acche haiM ki eka hI jhaTake meM halAla karake mAra dete haiM, parantu harAma nahIM krte| aura ve to harAma karate haiM, ghisa-ghisakara mArate haiN| pA~ca sau rupaye udhAra die hoM, to bAraha mahInoM meM cAra sau rupaye to byAja hI ho gayA hotA hai! phira buddhi se mArate haiN| unheM baMdUka kI z2arUrata nahIM hai| dukAna para grAhaka Ae to kaheMge ki, 'ilAhAbAda kA bahuta acchA mAla AyA hai|' vaha becArA bholA grAhaka, saccA mAnakara le jAtA hai| vaha seTha samajhatA hai ki yaha bevakUpha hai to thopo na yahIM se| vaha buddhi se golI mAratA hai ! yaha to bhayaMkara raudradhyAna kahalAtA hai| inakI kyA dazA hogI? aisI to seTha Trika karatA hai, aise to tAra DAlatA hai ki pUre DisTrikTa ke kisAna seTha ke ghara para rupaye lekara Ate haiN| byAja para byAja aura usakA bhI byAja cukAne meM hI kisAna mRtaprAya ho jAte haiM aura seTha Der3ha sau-Der3ha sau kilo kA hokara phiratA hai ! kAla badalegA taba isI kilo kI caTanI bana jAegI! kRpAludeva kyA kahate haiM ki jo mA~sa bar3hAne ke lie khAte haiM, ve saba mA~sAhAra karate haiN| bhojana jIvita rahane ke lie hai| usake badale yahA~ se phUlA, vahA~ se phUlA aura moTe tarabUja jaisA ho jAtA praznakartA : yAnI anumodanA karanevAle kA hI gunAha adhika mAnA jAtA hai?
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________________ 272 AptavANI-4 (36) bhAva, bhAvya aura bhAvaka bhAvaka hI bhAva kA kartA praznakartA : bhAva karavAnevAlA kauna hai? vaha AtmA karatA hai? dAdAzrI : aMdara 'bhAvaka' haiM, ve bhAva karavAte haiN| AtmA bhAva nahIM karatA hai| loga bhAvakarma ko bhUtAveSa samajhate haiM, vAstava meM bhAva karavAnevAle aMdara baiThe haiN| AtmA kabhI bhI bhAva karatA hI nhiiN| praznakartA : ve bhAvaka kauna haiM? dAdAzrI : vaha sirpha bhAvaka nahIM hai| krodhaka hai, krodha krvaanevaalaa| lobhaka hai, lobha krvaanevaalaa| niMdaka hai, nahIM karanI ho phira bhI vaha niMdA karavAtA hai| isameM AtmA kucha bhI nahIM krtaa| yadi AtmA bhAva kare to usakI kyA dazA ho? taba to vaha khatma hI ho gayA na? ye bhAva karavAnevAle dUsare haiN| unakA nAma bhAvaka hai| bhAvaka bhAva karavAte haiN| usa ghaDI 'AtmA' bhAvya ho jAtA hai, 'use' vaha acchA lagatA hai| khuda ke svarUpa kA bhAna nahIM hai isalie aisA asara ho jAtA hai| bhAva meM ekAkAra ho, to bhAvya 'mahIlA bhAvake bhAvya bhaLe to, citarAmaNa na thAya ja che sto|' - navanIta bhItara bhAva hote haiM unake aMdara bhAvya mila jAtA hai| usase nayA citraNa hotA hai| AtmA bhAvya hai aura bhItara bhAvaka bhAva karavAte haiN| ve bhAva hote haiM, usameM kyA Apatti hai? bhAvya bhAvoM meM ekAkAra nahIM ho aura dekhatA hI rahe ki, 'are! aMdara ke bhAvaka aise bhI bhAva karavAte haiM!' bhAvaka bhale hI kaise bhI bhAva karavAe, unheM 'hama' dekhate raheM to hameM baMdhana nahIM hai| yaha aMtima sAinsa hai| bhAvaka kA svarUpa praznakartA : aisA kisa taraha samajha meM Ae ki bhAvaka ne yaha bhAva karavAyA? jarA vistAra se smjhaaie| dAdAzrI : hama muMbaI kI bastI meM raha rahe hoM aura ekAeka bAhara jAnA par3e aura registAna A jAe~, jahA~ koI per3a nahIM mile, chAyA nahIM mile, vahA~ para aise bhAva hote haiM ki, 'kahA~ baiTheMge aura kahA~ ThaMDaka milegI, kahA~ AsarA leMge?' ve bhAva aMdara ke bhAvaka karavAte haiN| ve saba aMdara hI baiThe haiN| aura isa mokSapaMtha para pUrA hI jagat cala hI rahA hai| yaha to pUrA pravAha hI hai aura sabhI jIva pravAha ke rUpa meM cala hI rahe haiN| usa rAste para jAte hue taraha-taraha ke bhAvaka Ate haiN| praznakartA : usakA artha aisA huA ki vaha zAtA-azAtA (deha kA sukha pariNAma-deha kA du:kha pariNAma) vedanIya huI? dAdAzrI : nahIM, nhiiN| zAtA-azAtA vedanIya nahIM. vedanIya to vedanIya hI kahalAtA hai| aura ye to bhAvaka haiN| taraha-taraha ke bhAva karavAte haiN| hameM bhaya nahIM lagAnA ho, hama nirbhaya hoM, parantu yoM sA~pa ko jAte hue dekhA to turanta hI bhaya kA bhAva karavAte haiN| karavAte haiM yA nahIM karavAte? praznakartA : karavAte haiN| tabhI to vaha vikalpa kahalAtA hai? dAdAzrI : nhiiN| vikalpa bhI nahIM khlaataa| sA~pa jAe aura usameM tanmayAkAra huA to vaha bhaya kA bhAva karavAtA hai| vaha bhaya kA bhAvaka bhAvaka kA AdhAra, saMsArIjJAna yaha 'sAMsArika jJAna' hai, vaha bhAvaka karavAe~, aisA jJAna hai| yadi 'mUla
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________________ (36) bhAva, bhAvya aura bhAvaka 273 jJAna' ho to ve bhAvaka kucha bhI nahIM kreNge| 'mUla jJAna' arthAt 'maiM zuddhAtmA hU~' aisA bhAna honA vaha, usake bAda bhAvakoM kA kucha bhI nahIM calatA / jaba taka 'mUla jJAna' nahIM hotA, taba taka bhAvaka TakarAva karavAte hI rahate haiN| yahA~ se dhakkA mArate haiM aura vahA~ se dhakkA mArate haiN| ve phuTabaoNla kI taraha TakarAva karavAte haiN| praznakartA: ye bhAvaka aMta:karaNa ke kauna-se bhAga meM hote haiM? mana meM hote haiM? dAdAzrI : nhiiN| bhAvaka to aMta:karaNa se bhI alaga haiM! ve aMtaHkaraNa meM nahIM aate| aMta:karaNa to bhAvakoM ke batAe anusAra calatA hai| bhAvaka AtmA ko mUrchita kara dete haiM, isalie AtmA bhAvya ho jAtA hai| taba phira yaha aMta:karaNa zurU hotA hai| aura yadi 'maiM zuddhAtmA hU~', aisA bhAna rahe to vaise lAkha bhAvaka Ae~ to bhI koI harja nahIM hai| bhItara bhAvaka akelA nahIM hai| krodhaka, lobhaka, niMdaka, cetaka aise kitane hI 'ka' aMdara haiN| 'ka' arthAt karavAnevAle haiN| aMdara to pUrA brahmAMDa hai ! praznakartA : arthAt bhAvaka, AtmA ko mUrchita kara deM, vaise bhAva utpanna karate haiM? dAdAzrI : nahIM, aisA nahIM hai| bhAvaka aisA utpanna kara dete haiM ki AtmA mUrchita ho jAtA hai| mUrchita arthAt khuda ke svarUpa kA bhAna kho detA hai| jaise yahA~ para kucha gaisa kA phUTA ho to manuSya aceta ho jAtA hai na? vaise hI AtmA ko bhAvaka bhAva karavAte haiM, usakA asara hotA hai| asara kise nahIM hogA? khuda ke svarUpa kA bhAna ho use nahIM hogaa| varnA yaha saMsArika jJAna AtmA ko asara se mukta nahIM rakhatA hai| yaha saMyogoM kA dabAva itanA adhika hai ki use asaramukta nahIM rahane detaa| jaba 'maiM zuddhAtmA hU~', aisA jAnegA taba bhAvakoM kA jora nahIM rhegaa| sAmAnya samajha aisI hai| ki AtmA bhAva karatA hai, usase kAla, bhAva aura karma baMdha gayA hai, parantu AtmA bhAva kare taba to ho cukA, khatma ho gyaa| taba to vaha kisI cIz2a kA bhikhArI hai, aisA huaa| 274 meM haiM? AptavANI-4 bhAvaka bhAva karavAte haiM aura bhAvaka hI AtmA ko bhAvya banAte haiN| praznakartA : ye bhAvaka haiM, ve paramANu ke rUpa meM haiM yA gA~Tha ke rUpa dAdAzrI : paramANuoM ke rUpa meM haiN| ve pudgala paramANu haiN| praznakartA: usakA artha aisA huA ki khuda kA manacAhA huA to AtmA aMdara tanmayAkAra ho jAtA hai? dAdAzrI : hA~ aura use acchA nahIM lagatA ho to tanmayAkAra nahIM hotaa| arthAt 'vaha' bhAvya nahIM bane to kucha bhI nahIM ho / praznakartA : arthAt tanmayAkAra nahIM ho to citraNa nahIM hogA? dAdAzrI : tanmayAkAra nahIM ho taba to koI harja hI nahIM, parantu 'vaha' tanmayAkAra hue bagaira rahatA hI nhiiN| 'svarUpa' kA bhAna ho jAe tabhI 'vaha' tanmayAkAra nahIM hogaa| bhAvaka, samasaraNa ke anusAra badalate rahate haiM ve bhAvaka bhI phira badalate rahate haiN| dasaveM mIla para jo bhAvaka aise hote haiM, to gyArahaveM mIla para naI hI prakAra ke hote haiM, bArahaveM mIla para usase bhI naI prakAra ke hote haiN| kyoMki 'hama' saba gati kara rahe haiN| arthAt vAstava meM to koI karttA hai hI nahIM isa jagat meM AtmA bhI karttA nahIM hai aura pudgala bhI karttA nahIM hai| yadi pudgala karttA hotA to pudgala ko bhugatanA par3atA aura AtmA kartA hotA to AtmA ko bhugatanA par3atA / na to AtmA bhugatatA hai aura na hI pudgala bhugatatA hai, ahaMkAra bhugatatA hai| praznakartA : yaha jo saba khar3A huA hai, vaha mUlataH to khuda ke Azaya meM se hI khar3A huA hai na? dAdAzrI : nahIM, nhiiN| Azaya vagairaha kucha nahIM / yaha to 'A pha~se ' jaisA ho gayA hai, khuda ke Azaya meM hotA taba to vaha 'svayaM' gunahagAra mAnA jAegA, 'svayaM' karttA bana gayA kahA jAegA !
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________________ (36) bhAva, bhAvya aura bhAvaka 275 276 AptavANI-4 praznakartA : AtmajJAna nahIM huA, usase pahale jo yaha saba khar3A huA, vaha AzayoM meM se hI na? dAdAzrI : una AzayoM se hameM lagatA z2arUra haiM ki jo Azaya haiM unakA yaha phala hai| parantu ve Azaya kartA nahIM haiN| hameM lagatA jarUra hai ki ye Azaya hamAre hoMge isalie yaha saba aayaa| jaisA Azaya hotA hai, vaisA AtA hai| vaha to niyama hai ki isa taraha kI TikiTa lI yAnI kalakattA phuNceNge| Azaya TikiTa lene jaisA hai| yaha to ahaMkAra se bolate haiM ki mujhe aise Azaya utpanna hue isalie yaha huaa| saMsAra niraMtara pravahana kara rahA hai| eka vyakti ne bhagavAna se pUchA thA ki, 'bhagavAna, aisA to maiM kyA karU~ ki merA mokSa jaldI ho jAe?' taba bhagavAna ne kahA, 'terI bhavasthiti abhI taka paripakva nahIM huI hai| mokSa ke lie abhI bahuta samaya bAkI hai tujhe|' isalie aThArahaveM mIla para mokSa ho to gyArahaveM mIlavAlA kisa taraha mokSa meM jAe? tU 'jJAnI puruSa' ke pAsa par3A rahegA, to bhI terA kucha nahIM hogaa| parantu eka khAsa (mIla kI) bAunDrI meM A gayA aura 'jJAnI puruSa' mila gae to terA kalyANa ho jaaegaa| bhI nahIM cltaa| arthAt yaha sabhI paramANuoM kA asara hai| jaise mIla badala jAe~ vaise ve paramANu badala jAte haiM aura mokSamArga meM dhIre-dhIre usa pravAha meM Age bar3hate hI rahate haiN| praznakartA : aMta meM koI bhAvaka paramANu hI nahIM rahatA na? jJAnI meM ye 'ka' hote haiM? dAdAzrI : hamArI dazA meM bhAvaka kA paramANu bhI nahIM rhtaa| hama jisa jagaha para baiThe haiM, usa jagaha para Apa Aoge to Apake bhI bhAvaka nahIM raheMge, phira koI zora macAnevAlA aMdara nahIM rahegA, zuddhAtmA ke spaSTa vedana meM Ae to 'ka' nahIM rheNge| yaha 'sAinsa' mAtra samajhanA hai| yaha jJAna to iTaselpha kriyAkArI hai| yaha sUkSma bAta samajhe tabhI mokSa hogaa| bhAvoM meM ekAkAra nahIM hoM to mukti bhagavAna ne tapa kise kahA hai? loga tapate haiM use bhagavAna ne tapa nahIM khaa| yaha to loka-tapa, laukika tapa kahalAtA hai| mokSa ke lie alaukika tapa hotA hai| aMdara bhAvaka sabhI taraha ke bhAva karavAe~, usa ghar3I tapa aisA rakheM ki jarA-sA bhI 'khuda' kA cUke nhiiN| bhagavAna mahAvIra ne bhI vahI tapa kiyA thaa| aMta taka tapa meM tapakara aura jJAna se dekhate hI rahe aura 'khuda' asara se mukta rahe! praznakartA : vaisA asaramukta kisa taraha se rahA jA sakatA hai? dAdAzrI : aMdara sAre bhAvaka haiN| khuda yadi bhAvya ho jAe to bhAva hotA hai aura pha~satA hai| tU to paramAtmA hai, isalie bhAvoM ko jaan| aura bhAvoM kA tU jJAtA-dRSTA rahA to pha~segA nhiiN| yadi bhAvaka nahIM hoM, to svayaM paramAtmA hI hai| ye bhAvaka kauna haiM? pahale kI gunahagArI, ve bhAvaka haiN| usase bIja par3e haiN| bhAvaka aura bhAvya ekAkAra ho jAe~ to yoni meM bIja par3atA hai| aura usase saMsAra sarjita ho jAtA hai| yadi bhAvaka aura bhAvya ekAkAra nahIM hoM, vahA~ khuda' sTroMga rahA aura 'khuda' bhAvya nahIM bana jAe ye bhAva karavAte haiM, ve aMdaravAle bhAvaka haiN| yaha sAinsa bahuta ucca hai| isa 'jauharIbAjAra'* meM hoM, to alaga bhAva hote haiM, 'dArUkhAnA'* meM alaga bhAva hote haiM aura 'corabAjAra* (* muMbaI ke ilAkoM kA nAma) meM alaga bhAva hote haiN| praznakartA : hote haiM, kyoMki pratikSaNa bhAva badalate haiN| dAdAzrI : jo badalatA hai vaha AtmA nahIM hai, ve bhAvaka haiN| 'zuddhAtmA' meM rahe use 'DuMgarI'* bhI bAdhaka nahIM hai, 'dArUkhAnA' bhI bAdhaka nahIM hai, 'jauharIbAjAra' bhI bAdhaka nahIM hai aura 'corabAjAra' bhI bAdhaka nahIM hai| yaha 'rileTiva' jJAna kA AdhAra hai isalie jaise hI sthAna badalatA hai, vaise hI bhAva badala jAte haiN| yaha indriyajJAna hai aura indriyajJAna ke kAraNa bhAva badalate haiN| svarUpa kA bhAna ho jAe usake bAda bhAvakoM kA kucha
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________________ (36) bhAva, bhAvya aura bhAvaka 277 278 AptavANI-4 to anubaMdha udaya meM AtA jarUra hai, parantu (karma)baMdha DAle bagaira nirjarA ho jAtI hai| hama 'jJAna' dete haiM, usake bAda bhItara 'cetaka' baiThA dete haiN| mAtra Apako aba use majabUta kara lenA hai| 'viSaya meM sukha hai', vahA~ cetaka kI jarUrata hai| jisa taraha pulisavAlA jabaradastI mAra-pITakara karavAe usa taraha viSaya kA ArAdhana honA caahie| utanA isa cetaka ko majabUta kara lenA hai| tabhI vaha usakA virodha kregaa| nahIM to cetaka zaktihIna ho jaaegaa| ye 'ka' to bahuta balavAna hote haiN| saMsAra meM pha~sane kA samaya Ae to cetaka cetAvanI detA hai! svarUpajJAna milane ke bAda aMdara AlocanA, pratikramaNa, cetaka vagairaha ke naye kendra sthApita hote haiM aura 'ka' kI vaMzAvalI ke kendra simaTane lagate alaga hai aura yaha zabda alaga hai| jaise bhAvaka, cetaka haiM, vaise hI vyApaka hai| AtmA vyApya hai aura ye bhItara vyApaka bhare par3e haiN| ve vyApaka AtmA ko vyApya karavAte haiN| bhItara bahuta taraha ke vyApaka baiThe hue haiN| vyApaka arthAt vyApakatA karanevAle aura vyApya arthAt jaise yahA~ para isa ghar3e meM lAiTa ho aura use bAhara nikAle to vaha bAhara vyApya ho jAtI hai| jitanI jagaha mile utanI jagaha meM vaha vyApya ho jAtI hai| skopa milanA caahie| aura vyApaka kA artha kyA hai? sabhI meM, jIva-mAtra meM vyApaka kI taraha rahA huA hai| vaha vyakta hone ke bAda, svarUpajJAna hone ke bAda vyApya kI taraha rahatA hai| vAstava meM AtmA vyApya kI taraha hI hai, parantu bhakta to vyApaka boleM, tabhI kAma hogaa| prameya-pramAtA AtmA pramAtA hai| jaba ki prameya kA artha kyA? ki ina majadUroM kA prameya kitanA? taba kahe, unakA menTenansa (kharcA) ho jAe, bAla-baccoM kI par3hAI ho jAe, utnaa| arthAt ki thor3A-bahuta par3hAI kA bhAva aura thor3A-bahuta saMsAra kA bhaav| utanA usakA prameya hotA hai aura itane bhAga meM usakA AtmA pramAtA kI taraha rahatA hai| prameya ke anusAra pramAtA hotA hai| aisA karate-karate prameya bar3hate-bar3hate seTha ko dasa baMgale, mileM, gAr3iyA~, paise vagairaha kA saMsArabhAva bar3hatA jAe, vaise-vaise usakA prameya bar3A ho gayA kahA jAegA, vaise-vaise usakA pramAtA bar3hatA hai| aMta meM, vAstava meM pramAtA kise kahA jAtA hai? pUre brahmAMDa meM AtmA prakAzamAna ho, taba vaha vAstavika pramAtA kahA jAtA hai| prameya pUrA brahmAMDa hai| prameya bhAga kitanA hai? loka vibhAga hai utanA hI, aloka vibhAga nhiiN| vaha aloka meM pramAtA nahIM hai| AtmA prameya ke anusAra pramAtA banatA hai| vyApaka-vyApya praznakartA : yaha samajhAie, "vyApaka ne 'vyavasthita' khoLe che, divyacakSu enI lhANI mANe ch|" - nvniit| dAdAzrI : kavirAja kyA kahate haiM ki vyApaka ko 'vyavasthita' DhUMDha rahA hai ! pUre jagat ko 'vyavasthita' hI calAtA hai aura niraMtara 'vyavasthita' hI rakhatA hai| use koI badala nahIM sktaa| aura 'vyavasthita' kabhI bhI avyavasthita nahIM karatA hai| yaha to bar3I rakama ko bar3I rakama se bhAga dete haiN| aisA dikhatA hai ki, 'yaha khuda kA hI beTA itanI adhika zarAratanukasAna kisalie karatA hogA?' are, jitanI vajanadAra terI rakama hogI, utanI rakama se bhAga hogA na? choTI rakama kA choTI rakama se aura bar3I rakama kA bar3I rakama se bhAga hotA hai, parantu bhAga hotA hai| praznakartA : vyApaka yAnI Izvara? dAdAzrI : yahA~ pada meM vyApaka kA artha alaga hai| sarvavyApaka zabda
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________________ 280 AptavANI-4 ho gae haiM aura kucha jagahoM para to vIrAna (gaMjApana) ho gayA hai! khuda ke hAtha meM sattA hI nahIM hai| eka dAr3ha dukhatI ho na, to zora macA detA hai! bhAva ke anusAra phala AtA hai| (37) kriyAzakti : bhAvazakti kriyAzakti, parasattA adhIna dAdAzrI : abhI to sau eka janma lene haiM yA mokSa meM jAnA hai jaldI se? to 'jJAnI puruSa' vaisI ciTThI likha deN| ve cAhe so kareM, kyoMki ve kisI cIja ke kartA nahIM hote haiN| 'jJAnI puruSa' mokSadAtA kahalAte haiN| praznakartA : ve to rAstA dikhAte haiM, parantu phira karanA to hameM hI hai na? dAdAzrI : kriyAzakti khuda ke hAtha meM nahIM hai| sirpha bhAvazakti hI khuda ke hAtha meM hai| bahuta huA to hama aisA kara sakate haiM ki mujhe dAdA kI AjJA kA pAlana karanA hai, vaisA bhAva kiyA jA sakatA hai| dUsarA kucha nahIM kiyA jA sktaa| sirpha eka bhAvazakti hI kAma meM lene kI chUTa hai| ye to kaheMge, 'maiM sUrata jAkara aayaa|' are, gAr3I sUrata gaI yA tU gayA? phira kahatA hai, 'maiM thaka gayA!' aba gAr3I sUrata gaI aura sUrata AyA aura maiM utara gayA, aisA bole to thakAna bhI nahIM lgegii| maiM karatA hU~', vaha bhrAMti hai| karttApada, vaha bhrAMtipada hai, aisA Apako kabhI samajha meM nahIM AyA hai? praznakartA : samajha meM nahIM aayaa| dAdAzrI : karttApada pUrA hI bhrAMtipada hai| yadi karttApada kabhI hotA na to dAr3hI vagairaha bhI mana ko acchA lage, vaisA kiyA hotaa| sira para to gaMjApana hone hI nahIM detA na koI phira? sira para 'mAthe-rAna' hone dete. arthAta sira meM jaMgala jaise bAla hone dete, parantu yaha to rAna (jaMgala) bhI hamAre hAtha meM ekamAtra bhAva karane ke alAvA dUsarI koI tAkata nahIM hai| hamArA bhAva bhI vyakta nahIM honA caahie| bhAva kiyA to usake pIche ahaMkAra hai hii| sirpha khuda ke mokSa meM jAne ke alAvA anya kisI bhI prakAra kA ahaMkAra karane jaisA nahIM hai| jagatakalyANa kA bhI ahaMkAra karane jaisA nahIM hai| sabhI nimitta haiN| koI kartA nahIM hai| nimitta kisalie kahalAte haiM? ye nimitta kisa taraha bana jAte haiM? koI bhAva kare ki 'mujhe sabako sIdhA karanA hai' to usakA bhAva necara meM jamA ho jAtA hai, noTa ho jAtA hai, phira jaba necara ko sIdhA karane kA samaya Ae taba usa bhAvavAle nimitta ke pAsa necara sAre saMyoga ikaTThe kara detA hai| aura usa bhAvavAle manuSya kA, usa bhAva ke anusAra saba ho jAtA hai| jagat bhAva aura abhAva karatA hI rahatA hai| bhAva-abhAva hI rAgadveSa hai| hama svarUpajJAna dete haiM, usake bAda Apako bhAvAbhAva nahIM hote, donoM hama baMda kara dete haiN| parantu jaba pahale kA bhAva phUTe taba hotA hai ki yaha bhAva kyoM ho rahA hai? vAstava meM vaha bhAva nahIM hai| vaha icchA hai| bhAva-icchA, pharka kyA? praznakartA : bhAva kise kaheMge? dAdAzrI : vAstavika bhAva kise kahate haiM? yaha dikhatA hai vaha nahIM, bhItara yojanAe~ gar3hI jAtI haiM, ve haiM aura ve dUsare janma meM rUpaka meM AtI haiN| bhAva se yojanAe~ gar3hI jAtI haiM, parantu svayaM ko usakA patA nahIM cltaa| praznakartA : icchA kyA hai? manuSya ko icchA kyoM hotI hai? dAdAzrI : icchA to jvAra meM bAlI Ae usake jaisI vastu hai| bIja Dala gayA ho tabhI aisA hotA hai| jisa cIz2a kA bhAva ho hameM, usakI icchA
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________________ (37) kriyAzakti : bhAvazakti 281 282 AptavANI-4 vaha nahIM hai| 'mujhe jalebI para khUba bhAva hai|' vaha jo bhAva kahate haiM, vaha kahIM bhI bhAva zabda kA prayoga kara liyA jAtA hai| vAstava meM to bhAva A~khoM se dikhe vaisI vastu hI nahIM hai| jinheM ye loga bhAva kahate haiM, ve to icchAe~ vicAra aura bhAva una donoM kA lenA-denA nahIM hai| praznakartA : vicAra Ae~ aura bhAva hoM, una donoM kA DimArkezana nahIM hotA hai| dAdAzrI : jo vicAra Ate haiM, ve sabhI DiscArja svarUpa haiM aura bhAva cArja haiN| vicAra kitane bhI Ate hoM, usameM harja nahIM hai, parantu 'khuda' jJAna meM rahe to| praznakartA : isa janma meM jo bhAva kareM, unakA isI janma meM phala milatA hai? utpanna hotI hai| icchA pariNAma hai, bhAva kaoNz2ez2a haiN| sabhI icchAe~ iphekTa haiN| hameM nakkI rakhanA hai ki mujhe jagat kI koI cIz2a nahIM cAhie, tAki aMdara sIla (pakkA baMda) ho jaae| svarUpajJAna hone ke bAda jo icchAe~ hotI haiM, ve iphekTa haiN| aura iphekTsa saba bhoga lene par3ate haiN| saMyogoM kA mUla, bhAva praznakartA : saMyoga aura bhAva meM kyA pharka hai? dAdAzrI : bahuta pharka hai| saMyoga sthUla vastu hai aura bhAva to bahuta sUkSma vastu hai, hAlAMki bhAva bhI saMyoga hI kahalAte haiN| isalie bhagavAna mahAvIra ne kahA hai, 'zeSA me bAhirAbhAvA, savve saMjoga lakhkhaNA' zeSa sabhI bAhyabhAva haiN| ve kisa taraha se pahacAne jAeMge? taba kaheM, ki saMyoga mileM una para se, unake lakSaNa para se pahacAnA jAtA hai ki ye mere bAhyabhAva isa taraha ke kie hue the| ye Apa mujhe mile to kisa prakAra ke bAhyabhAva kie hue hoMge ki Apa mile? praznakartA : satsaMga ke| dAdAzrI : isalie yaha satsaMga kA saMyoga milA aura zarAba pIne kA bAhyabhAva kiyA hotA to? arthAt bhAva ke AdhAra para hameM saMyoga milatA hai| yaha saMyoga milA to 'maiMne kyA bhAva kiyA hogA', usakA hisAba nikAlakara usakA chedana mUla meM se hI kara denaa| 'jJAnI' bhAva para se mUla DhUMDha nikAlate haiM aura usakA chedana kara dete haiN| bhAva alaga - vicAra alaga praznakartA : bhAva hote haiM aura vicAra Ate haiM, unameM kyA pharka hai? dAdAzrI : bhAva ko jagat ke loga jisa prakAra se samajhate haiM, vaisA dAdAzrI : nhiiN| bhAva to kitanI sArI vastue~ ikaTThI hoM, taba usakA dravya hotA hai| bhAva kA dravya hote-hote to kitanA hI samaya laga jAtA hai| karma kA paripAka ho, taba phala AtA hai| hama dUdha lekara Ae, yAnI khIra bana gaI, aisA nahIM kahA jA sktaa| vaha to cUlhA jalAe~, patIlI rakheM, hilAte raheM, taba khIra banatI hai| qImata, bhAva kI hI saMsAra meM vastue~ bAdhaka nahIM haiM, Apake bhAva bAdhaka haiN| bhagavAna ne kahA thA ki dravya hogA to bhAva utpanna hogaa| vaisA acche kAla meM thaa| dAna deM taba mana meM ullAsa hotA thA ki, 'aisA saMyoga phira se aae|' aura isa kAla meM to dravya alaga aura bhAva alg| dAna dete samaya bhAva meM aisA hotA hai ki, 'maiM to dAna detA hI nahIM, yaha to nagaraseTha ne dabAva DAlA, isalie diyA', isalie mana alaga, vANI alaga aura AcaraNa alg| isalie adhogati ke daune bharate haiN| vaha prapaMca hai islie|
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________________ (37) kriyAzakti : bhAvazakti 283 284 AptavANI-4 bhagavAna ke darzana karane jAe~ to darzana ke sAtha meM jUtoM ke aura dukAna ke bhI darzana karate haiM! dravya bhagavAna kI tarapha aura bhAva jUtoM meM yA dukAna meM bhagavAna kyA kahate haiM ki dravya ke anusAra terA bhAva nahIM hai to tUne dharma kiyA hI nahIM aura 'maiM dharma karatA hU~' aisA mAnanA, vaha prapaMca kiyA khlaaegaa| usase bhArI adhogati meM jaaegaa| vItarAga ke mArga meM kisIkI itanA-sA bhI ghoTAlA nahIM cltaa| bhAva kI to qImata hai| abhI bhAvapUrvaka hotA hI nahIM na? pakaur3iyA~ banAI, parantu bhAvapUrvaka banAe hue kI qImata U~cI hai| logoM ko bhI bhAva pahacAnanA nahIM AtA hai| ye to abhAvapUrvaka acchA bhojana deM to TesTapUrvaka khAte haiN| aura bhAvapUrvaka roTI dI ho to mu~ha bigAr3ate haiN| vAstava meM bhAvapUrvaka dI gaI roTI ho to pAnI ke sAtha khA lenI caahie| hama to bhAvapUrvaka jahara deM to bhI pI jAe! qImata bhAva kI hai| bhAvapUrvaka vyavahAra cale to satayuga hI hai| seTha-naukara bhAvapUrvaka raheM to kitanA saMdara lagatA hai! bhAva to rahA hI nhiiN| are, ye maMtra bhI bhAvapUrvaka bole to ciMtA nahIM ho, aisA hai| bhAvakriyA, vaha jIvaMta kriyA hai, bhale hI phira vaha nizcetana cetana kI ho| aura abhAva kriyA, vaha mRta kriyA hai| kisIko bhojana karavAe~, ina jaina sAdhuoM ko bhojana deM to bhAvapUrvaka denA caahie| kucha to mahArAja ko bhAvapUrvaka dete bhI nahIM haiN| mahArAja to vItarAga bhagavAna ke mArgavAle haiN| unakA to dhyAna rakhanA cAhie na! bhItara AtmA hai| ve turanta hI samajha jAte haiM ki yaha bhAva se de rahA hai, vinaya se de rahA hai yA nahIM? Apake ghara sahUliyata nahIM ho to atithi ko roTI aura sabjI khilAnA, parantu bhAva mata bigaadd'naa| vyavahAra to U~cA honA cAhie na? kramika mArga meM isa bhAva kI hI qImata U~cI mAnI jAtI deM, isa taraha se jInA bahuta muzkila hai| dAdAzrI : muzkila hai isalie aisA nahIM kaha sakate ki duHkha dekara hI mujhe jInA hai| phira bhI Apako to bhAvanA aisI hI rakhanI cAhie ki mujhe kisIko du:kha nahIM denA hai| hama bhAvanA ke lie hI jimmedAra haiM, kriyA ke lie jimmedAra nahIM haiN| pratipakSI bhAva pUrA jagat pratipakSI bhAva se karma bA~dhatA hai| svarUpajJAnI ko pratipakSI bhAva nahIM hote| asara hotA hai, parantu karma nahIM baMdhate! aura jaba parAkrama khar3A ho, taba to asara bhI nahIM hotaa| asara meM kyA hotA hai ki koI gAliyA~ de to 'yaha mujhe aisA bolA hI kyoM?' aisA hotA hai| parantu parAkrama kyA kahatA hai ki, 'terI bhUla hogI isalie hI vaha kahatA hai aura nukasAna huA, vaha vyApAra karanA nahIM AtA hai islie|' isa taraha, svayaM khuda ke sAtha hI bAtacIta kare to khuda se pahacAna hotI hai, paricaya hotA hai, 'khada' kI gaddI para, zuddhAtmA kI gaddI para baiThane kA paricaya hotA hai| yaha to gaddI para se turanta hI uTha jAtA hai! vaha anAdikAla kA paricaya hai isalie aura bhugatanA abhI bAkI hai isalie!! apanI bhUla se, pApa jAgeM taba yaha paMkhA cala rahA hai, vaha Apa para gira par3atA hai| hisAba ApakA hI hai! mana bigAr3anA kise kahA jAegA? sirpha mana nahIM bigar3atA, pUrA aMta:karaNa bigar3atA hai| pUrI pArliyAmenTa kA prastAva pAsa ho, taba pratipakSI bhAva utpanna hotA hai| 'sAmanevAle ko aisA kara DAlU~, vaisA kara DAlU~' aisA hotA hai| yaha sirpha mana ke kAraNa hI nahIM hai| mana to jJeya hai, vItarAgI svabhAva kA hai| mana bigar3a jAe to pratikramaNa kara lenA caahie| aMta:karaNa kI pArliyAmenTa kA prastAva ho jAnA aura mana bigar3a jAnA, ye donoM alaga vastue~ haiN| oNphisa meM paramiTa lene gae, para sAhaba ne nahIM diyA to mana meM hotA 'hamase kisI bhI jIva ko kiMcit mAtra du:kha nahIM ho|' itanA hI vAkya samajha gayA na, to bahuta ho gyaa| praznakartA : jaba taka zarIra hai taba taka kisI jIva ko du:kha nahIM
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________________ (37) kriyAzakti : bhAvazakti 285 286 AptavANI-4 hai ki 'sAhaba nAlAyaka hai, aisA hai, vaisA hai|' aba usakA phala kyA AegA, vaha jAnatA nahIM hai| isalie yaha bhAva badala DAlo, pratikramaNa kara lenA caahie| use hama jAgRti kahate haiN| arthAt vaha kisake jaisA hai? koI AlasI kisAna ho aura kheta meM gayA hI nahIM ho aura bIja hI nahIM DAle hoM, to phira barasAta kyA karegI? barasAta ho jAegI aura kisAna ko kucha bhI phAyadA nahIM milegA? aura dUsare kisAna ne bIja DAla rakhe hoMge to barasAta hote hI turanta saba uga niklegaa| kisI bhI dehadhArI ke lie Ter3hA-mer3hA boleM, vaha Tepa ho hI jAtA hai| koI thoDA-sA bhI cher3e to pratipakSI bhAva kA rikaoNrDa baje bagaira rahatA hI nhiiN| praznakartA : bhAva meM bhI nahIM AnA cAhie na? dAdAzrI : Apa kisIko cher3o to sAmanevAle ko pratipakSI bhAva utpanna hue bagaira raheMge hI nhiiN| sAmanevAlA balavAna nahIM ho, to bolegA nahIM, parantu mana meM to hogA na? Apa bolanA baMda karo to sAmanevAle ke bhAva baMda ho jAeMge phir| hameM kinhIM bhI saMyogoM meM pratipakSI bhAva utpanna nahIM hote| kabhI na kabhI usa sTeja meM Ae bagaira cArA nahIM hai| praznakartA : usakA eka hI bhAva hotA hai, bhAva badalA hI nahIM hotA, phira bhI saMyoga use nahIM mileM, taba usakA bhAva naSTa ho jAtA hai? dAdAzrI : hA~, aisA bhI hotA hai! aisA kisI samaya hI hotA hai| vaha bhAva pUrvabhava kA kaccA bhAva kahalAtA hai, Dagamaga bhAva kahalAtA hai| nahIM to aisA hotA nahIM hai| jaise sar3A huA bIja DAleM lekina kucha ugatA nahIM, vaise hI kacce bhAva meM hote haiN| usakA hameM patA calatA hai| vaha DagamagavAlA bhAva hotA hai| 'bIja DAlUM yA nahIM DAlU~? bIja DAlU~ yA nahIM DAlU~?' aisA hotA rahatA hai| vaisA kabhI hI hotA hai| aura yaha to mUla vastu kahI ki hameM apanA bhAva rakha denA hai, to usake anusAra saba mila jaaegaa| hameM dukAna lagAnI ho to nakkI karake rakhanA cAhie ki mujhe dukAna lagAnI hai| phira saMyoga Aja, nahIM to chaha mahInoM bAda bhI mila aaeNge| parantu hameM taiyArI rakhanI hai, bhAva taiyAra rakhanA hai| aura dUsarA saba 'vyavasthita' kI sattA meM hai| hamArI A~khoM meM dUsare koI bhAva nahIM dikhate, isalie loga darzana karate haiN| kisI bhI taraha kA kharAba bhAva A~khoM meM nahIM par3hA jAnA caahie| taba una A~khoM ko dekhate hI samAdhi kA anubhava hotA hai! jise kucha cAhie ho - mAna-tAna-krodha-lobha-moha, to unheM dekhakara ullAsa nahIM aataa| bhAva kA phaoNrma ApakA bhAva hAz2ira rahanA caahie| phira dUsare sAre eviDensa ikaTThe ho jaaeNge| Apa bhAva hAz2ira nahIM rakhate haiM, usake kAraNa kucha eviDensa bekAra cale jAte haiN| Apako vivAha karanA ho to vivAha karane ke bhAva hAz2ira rkhnaa| aura vivAha nahIM karanA ho to nahIM karane ke bhAva hAz2ira rkhnaa| jaise bhAva hAz2ira rakhoge, vaise saMyoga ikaTThe ho jAeMge, kyoMki bhAva kI hAjirI vaha 'vana oNpha da eviDensa' (aneka saMyogoM meM se eka saMyoga) hai| nayA bhAva hameM utpanna nahIM karanA hai| nayA bhAva to AtmA ko hotA hI nahIM hai na! AtmA prApta karane ke bAda hamAre bhAvakarma baMda ho jAte haiN| ye to pichale bhAva ki jinheM bhUtabhAva kahA jAtA hai, bhUtabhAva Ate haiM aura kArya ho jAtA hai aura usakA hama nikAla kara dete haiN| aura bhAvi bhAva to hama karate nahIM haiN| vartamAna bhAva to apanA 'svabhAva' rahatA hai, vaha hai! indriyajJAna sabhI bhAvanAe~ utpanna karatA hai aura atindriyajJAna bhAvanA utpanna nahIM karatA, zuddhAtmA bhAvanA utpanna nahIM krtaa| bhAva hI mukhya eviDensa ajJAna dazA meM bhAvasvarUpa AtmA hai, bhAvAtmA hai| aura jJAnadazA meM
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________________ (37) kriyAzakti bhAvazakti 287 jJAnAtmA hai| bhAvAtmA ke pAsa sirpha bhAvasattA hI rahI, usakA hI vaha upayoga karatA hai| dUsarA kucha nahIM karatA hai| kie hue bhAva necara meM jAte haiN| phira kudarata pudgala mizrita hokara usakA phala detI hai| yaha bahuta gUr3ha sAinsa hai| Apa eka kharAba vicAra karo ki turanta hI ye bAhara ke jo paramANu haiM, ve bhItara ke paramANuoM ke sAtha hisAba milAkara - joinTa hokara aMdara dAqhila ho jAte haiN| aura vaha hisAba baiTha jAtA hai aura vaisA hI phala dekara jAtA hai, phira aise hI nahIM calA jaataa| isameM AtmA kucha bhI nahIM karatA hai| aura bAhara aisA koI Izvara nahIM hai ki Apako phala dene ke lie aae| yaha 'vyavasthita' zakti hI sabakucha calA letI hai aapkaa| isameM AtmA kucha bhI nahIM karatA hai, AtmA khAtA nahIM hai, pItA nahIM hai, bhoga nahIM bhogatA hai, sirpha bhAva kA karttA hai| AtmA svabhAva kA karttA bane to harja nahIM hai| yaha to vibhAva kA karttA hai, isalie saMsAra khar3A ho gayA hai / svabhAva ke karttA hone se mokSa hotA hai| : sau rAniyA~ hoM, parantu rAjA ko bhItara bhAva utpanna hone lage ki mujhe to brahmacarya kA hI bhAva rakhanA cAhie, yaha abrahmacarya nahIM honA cAhie, to aisA socate-socate bhAva svarUpa ho jAe, to agale janma meM kitanA suMdara brahmacarya rahegA! brahmacarya kA pAlana karanA khuda ke hAtha meM nahIM hai| bhAva kiyA hai, usakA phala aaegaa| tIrthaMkaroM ko jJAna hone ke bAda aMtima bhAva utpanna hotA hai, jagat kalyANa karane kaa| khuda kA kalyANa ho cukA, aba dUsaroM kA kisa taraha kalyANa ho, vaise bhAva utpanna hote haiN| bhAva ke phala svarUpa bhAvAtmA vaisA hI ho jAtA hai| pahale bhAvAtmA tIrthaMkara banatA hai, phira dravyAtmA tIrthaMkara banatA hai| vaha bhI nirvikalpa kA phala nahIM hai, vikalpa kA phala hai, bhAva kA phala hai| praznakartA: Apake jaise yogI puruSa hoM, ve ye sArI sUkSma paramANuoM kI kriyAe~ dekha sakate haiM? dAdAzrI : dekha sakate haiM, tabhI to yaha paz2ala solva ho sakatA hai| AptavANI-4 288 nahIM to yaha paz2ala kisI bhI taraha se solva nahIM ho sktaa| loga kaheMge ki isane ise poijana diyA isalie yaha AdamI mara gayA, yaha karekTa bAta nahIM hai| pahale aMta:karaNa meM poijana de diyA jAtA hai| yaha sUkSma svarUpavAlA poijana hai aura vaha sthUla svarUpavAlA poijana hai| pahale aMdara kriyA hotI hai aura phira bAhara hotI hai| yaha bhojana hama khAte haiM vaha hama roz2a aisA nahIM kahate haiM ki yahI khAnA banAnA aura kaheM to usa anusAra sabakucha banatA bhI nahIM hai| yaha to bhItara jina paramANuoM ko mA~gate haiM, to bAhara 'vyavasthita' zakti unheM milavA detI hai| yaha sArA 'vyavasthita' ke anusAra hI prabaMdhita hotA hai| bhItara kar3ave rasa kI z2arUrata par3I ho, tabhI karele kI sabz2I milatI hai| taba ye abhAge cillAte haiM ki, 'Aja karele kI sabz2I kyoM banAI?' yaha bhI vijJAna hai| hamane kahA hai, 'mAinDa ija iphekTiva spIca ija iphekTiva, boDI iz2a iphekTiva' (mana asaravAlA hai, vANI asaravAlI hai, zarIra asaravAlA hai) aba ye iphekTiva kisa taraha se banatA hai? usa para to bahuta-bahuta vicAra Ane caahie| hameM duHkha hotA hai vaha mana ke paramANuoM kA iphekTa hai, usameM kisIkA doSa nahIM hai| mAtra iphekTa hai| bAhara se koI duHkha nahIM detA hai| bAharavAle to sAre nimitta haiN| pahale aMtara meM hotA hai, tabhI bAhara hotA hai| isalie hama aMtara para se samajha jAte haiM ki thor3I dera bAda aisA honevAlA hai| hameM vaisA dikhatA hai / itanA to Apako samajha meM AtA hai na ki yaha z2ahara khAne se AdamI mara jAtA hai, usameM bIca meM bhagavAna kI z2arUrata nahIM hai| bhagavAna ko mArane ke lie AnA nahIM par3atA hai| ye paramANu mArate haiN| vAstava meM mAranevAle bhItara hI haiN| sthUla meM nahIM dikheM to jagat cale hI nahIM! yaha jo bhrAMti hai, vaha sthUla ke kAraNa hI hai sArI ! sthUla jahara ko to acche DaoNkTara ulTI karavAkara nikalavA dete haiM, parantu sUkSma meM yadi ho to cAhe jitanI ulTI karavAe~, phira bhI mara jAtA hai| yaha vijJAna bahuta jAnane jaisA hai|
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________________ 290 AptavANI-4 (37) kriyAzakti : bhAvazakti 289 praznakartA : yAnI jo kucha bhI hameM milatA hai, vaha pahale aMdara sUkSma meM par3A huA hI hai, isalie milatA hai? dAdAzrI : taba aura kauna denevAlA hai? Apako itanI sabjI parosI ho to do Tukar3e nahIM bace raha jAte haiM thAlI meM? usakA kyA kAraNa hai? are, eka dAnA bhI bacA par3A rahatA hai yA nahIM bacA par3A rahatA? bhItara jitanA hisAba hogA utanA hI khAyA jaaegaa| dUsarA saba parAyA! hama acche bhAva kareM usake acche phala Ate haiM aura kharAba bhAva ke kharAba phala Ate haiN| aura bhAvAbhAva nahIM kie aura 'maiM zuddhAtmA hU~' ho gayA, taba kartA baMda ho gyaa| to purAnA phala dekara calA jAegA, nayA nahIM aaegaa| yaha sAinsa hai, dharma nahIM hai| dharma to jaba taka sAinsa meM nahIM Ae~, taba taka yogyatA lAne ke lie hai| varnA sAinsa to sAinsa hai, TheTha mukti dilavAtA hai, vaha ! dravya-bhAva praznakartA : bhAva ucca hai yA dravya? dAdAzrI : bhAva ko bhagavAna ne zreSTha kahA hai| dravya ulTA bhI ho sakatA hai| use nahIM dekhA jAtA, bhAva hI dekhanA hai| dravya-bhAva ko samajhanA bahuta muzkila hai| yaha jo laTU ghUmatA hai, usakI DorI khulatI jAtI hai vaha dravya hai aura phira lipaTatI hai vaha bhAva dAdAzrI : pratiSThita AtmA kare, taba bhAvamana kI zurUAta hotI hai aura usameM se dravyamana rUpaka meM AtA hai| loga jo bhAvAbhAva karate haiM ve 'pratiSThita AtmA' ke haiN| zuddhAtmA ko bhAva hote hI nahIM haiN| jo dikhatA hai, vaha DiscArja hai| cArja to dikhatA hI nahIM, patA bhI nahIM cltaa| bhAva DhUMDhane se mileM, vaise nahIM haiN| bahuta thor3e loga bhAva ko samajha sakate haiN| parantu ve phira, zuddhAtmA ke bhAva samajhate haiM, isalie gar3abar3a kara dete haiN| jJAna ke binA bhAva pakar3a meM A sakeM, vaisA nahIM hai| bhAva to atyaMta gahana, gahana, gahana - vaisA lAkha bAra gahana boleM, taba bhI usakI gahanatA kA aMta Ae vaisA nahIM hai| koI kahe ki, maiMne yaha kArya karane ke lie bahuta bhAva kie haiN| use bhagavAna kyA kahate haiM? ve mana ke dRr3ha pariNAma haiN| unheM bhAva nahIM khte| praznakartA : dravyabhAva arthAt kyA? dAdAzrI: jo khuda dharma karate haiM unake bIja Dalate haiN| isalie gaNadharoM ne kahA hai ki dravyabhAva kro| parantu isa kAla meM dravya alaga aura bhAva bhI alaga hote haiN| vyAkhyAna sunane baiThA ho, vaha dravya bahuta puNyazAlI kahalAtA hai, parantu vahA~ baiThe hue taraha-taraha ke bhAva kara DAlatA hai ki aise phAyadA karU~ aura aisA kruuN| pahale ke kAla meM dravyabhAva saccA thA, jaisA dravya vaise bhaav| kisIko paTTA bA~dhe to usameM ekAkAra ho jAtA thaa| yAnI ise dravyabhAva DAlA kahA jAtA hai| parantu Aja ke loga to paTTA bA~dhate haiM, para mana meM vicAra karate haiM ki isameM maiM kahA~ pha~sA? dravyabhAva sahita vartana, vaha saccA bIja DAlatA hai| dravyakarma arthAt phala AyA, vaha / bhAvakarma arthAt bIja DAlA, vh| dravya meM se bhAva aura bhAva meM se dravya, aise calatA hI rahatA hai| corI karate samaya acchA bhAva rakhe to puNya kA phala milatA hai| aisA bhAva kare ki, 'mujhe kahA~ yaha corI karanI par3I?' usase puNya baMdhatA zuddhAtmA meM kisI prakAra kA bhAva hI nahIM hai| pratiSThita AtmA ke bhAva ko bhAva kahA jAtA hai| pratiSThita AtmA to jJAnI ko aura ajJAnI ko bhI hotA hai| svarUpajJAna nahIM hotA, use mana ke dRr3ha pariNAma meM hotA hai ki 'mujhe pratikramaNa karanA hI hai' aisA dRr3ha bhAva kare taba dravya utpanna hotA hai aura dravya meM se bhAva utpanna hote haiN| praznakartA : bhAvamana aura dravyamana kA matalaba kyA hai?
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________________ (37) kriyAzakti : bhAvazakti 291 292 AptavANI-4 sAmAyika kare, lekina ghar3I dekhatA rahe to ulTA bhAvabIja DAlatA jo dravyakriyA tU karatA hai vaha to 'vyavasthita zakti' karavAtI hai, usameM terA kyA hai? bhagavAna kahate haiM ki, 'hama dravyakriyA para dhyAna nahIM dete|' isa kAla meM dravya kA ThikAnA hI nahIM hai, isalie sIdhA bhAva karo to Age clegaa| bhAvamana : pratiSThita AtmA praznakartA : bhAvamana yAnI AtmA kahalAtA hai? dAdAzrI : bhAvamana ko AtmA kaheM taba to phira bhaTakane kA hI hogA na! kramikamArga meM bhAvamana ko hI AtmA kahA hai aura apane yahA~ akrama meM bhAvamana, dravyamana donoM ko khatma kara diyA hai| praznakartA : bhAvamana arthAt 'pratiSThita AtmA' hI na? dAdAzrI : bhAvamana pratiSThita AtmA nahIM hai| bhAvamana se nayA pratiSThita AtmA utpanna hotA hai| dravyamana hai, vAstava meM vaha pratiSThita AtmA hai| dravyamana arthAt DiscArja-mana aura bhAvamana arthAt caarj-mn| pUrA jagat dravya ko tor3atA rahatA hai, yAnI kriyAoM meM badalAva karatA hai| apane akrama vijJAna ne to dravya aura bhAva donoM ko eka tarapha rakha diyA hai, krama-vrama nahIM, sIdhA-DAyarekTa eka ghaMTe meM hI samakita ho jAtA hai| nahIM to aise lAkha janmoM taka bhI samakita kA ThikAnA nahIM pdd'taa| praznakartA : anubhava hone ke bAda raTane kI z2arUrata hai kyA? dAdAzrI : raTane kI, yA kucha bhI karane kI z2arUrata nahIM hai| akramavijJAna samajhane kI z2arUrata hai| eka bAra samajha le, usake bAda hamezA ke lie mukti ho jAtI hai| nayA karma cArja nahIM ho, aisA yaha vijJAna hai| pUrA hI dravyamana phiz2ikala hai aura bhAvamana bhrAMti se utpanna hotA hai| bhrAMti hai taba taka bhAvamana hai| dravyakarma ke cakSu, ve pichale janma ke ATha karmoM ke cakSu lAte haiM, una cakSaoM ke AdhAra para bhAva karatA hai. bhAvoM ke AdhAra para padagala paramANu ko pakar3a letA hai aura usakA dravya meM pariNAma AtA hai| yaha pUrA sAinsa hI hai| praznakartA : jIvana kI aMtima ghar3I ke bhAva ke anusAra pudgala pakar3atA hai? dAdAzrI : turanta hI pakar3a letA hai| yaha bhAva kiyA vaha bhrAMtibhAva hai| svabhAvabhAva nahIM hai| bAhara jo zuddha paramANu haiM ki jinheM vizrasA kahA jAtA hai, mana ke aMdara bhrAMtibhAva huA to ve paramANu prayogasA ke bahAva meM cale jAte haiM aura jaba pariNAma dete hai, taba mizrasA ho jAte haiM, ve phira kar3ave-mIThe pariNAma dekara jAte haiN| abhI yaha deha mizrasA paramANuoM kA banA huA hai| ve pariNAma dekara jaaeNge| AtmA lakSya meM Ae svabhAvabhAva meM Ae, taba naye bIja nahIM Dalate haiN| karma kA udaya kisIko bhI nahIM chodd'taa| 'vyavasthita' ke jAla meM Ane ke bAda cAroM tarapha se cimaTe Ate haiM, sarakamasTensesa ke cimaTe Ate haiN| mana ko jo acchA lagatA hai, usameM use ruci ho jAtI hai| khuda ko acchA nahIM lagatA, parantu mana ko to acchA lagatA hai na? isalie usameM khuda tanmayAkAra ho jAtA hai| mana kA svabhAva kaisA hai ki jaba taka usakA manacAhA nahIM ho, taba taka saMtoSa nahIM hotA aura manacAhA ho to saMtoSa hotA hai| saMsAra ke ekjibizana meM praveza karane jaisA hI nahIM hai!! praznakartA : phala to anubhava meM AtA hai na usameM? dAdAzrI : anubhava meM nahIM Ae to kAma kA hI nhiiN| hama zakkara mu~ha meM rakheM to anubhava honA hI caahie| zakkara mIThI hai' aisA paDhate raheM to anubhava nahIM hotaa| maiM AtmA hU~, maiM AtmA hU~' aise boleM to kucha bhI nahIM hotaa| AtmA kA anubhava pratikSaNa ho tabhI kAma kaa|
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________________ (37) kriyAzakti : bhAvazakti 293 294 AptavANI-4 pratibhAva praznakartA : pratibhAva kise kahate haiM? dAdAzrI : Apa kucha galata bola gae aura phira aMdara Apako aisA ho ki 'yaha galata ho gayA, aisA nahIM bolanA cAhie', vaha pratibhAva kahalAtA hai| jo Apa bolate ho, usake lie hI Apa 'nahIM bolanA cAhie', vaisA jo bhAva karate ho, vaha pratibhAva kahalAtA hai| praznakartA : arthAt jAgRti hI pratibhAva hai na? dAdAzrI : bhItara jAgRti ho, to pratibhAva hotA hai| golI chUTa jAne ke bAda mana meM hotA hai ki 'nahIM chor3anI caahie|' yaha pratibhAva hamArA puruSArtha mAnA jAtA hai| praznakartA : jJAnI ko kaise pratibhAva rahate haiM? dAdAzrI : hameM pratibhAva nahIM hote haiN| praznakartA : yaha golI chUTane kI ghaTanA meM jJAnI ko kaisA rahatA hai? aMdara kI pariNati kaisI rahatI hai? dAdAzrI : bhItara kudaratI rUpa se golI chUTatI hI nahIM, phira bhAva karane ko hI kahA~ rahA? aura choTI-choTI goliyA~ chUTeM unheM to dekhate rahate haiM ki 'ohoho! ye paTAkhe phUTa rahe haiN|' use bhAva nahIM khte| bhItara zarIra meM to bahuta taraha kI goliyA~ phUTatI rahatI haiM, unheM bhAva nahIM khte| praznakartA : DiscArja meM tanyamAkAra ho jAe to phira dUsare bhAva Dalate haiM na? dAdAzrI : hA~, yaha saba jokhima to hai na! pratikramaNa kare taba zuddha ho jAtA hai| pratikramaNa kare, vaha bhI parabhAva hai| usase puNya baMdhatA hai, vaha svabhAva nahIM hai| puNya baMdhatA hai, pApa baMdhatA hai, vaha saba parabhAva hai| jitanA samabhAva se nikAla ho gayA, utanA kama huaa| arthAt ajJAnI ko pratibhAva nahIM hote haiN| use jAgRti hI nahIM hotI na ki yaha galata ho rahA hai| 'jJAnI' ko bhI pratibhAva nahIM hote. kyoMki unheM bhAva hI utpanna nahIM hote, to pratibhAva kahA~ se hoMge? vaha saMpUrNa jAgRti kI nizAnI hai| aura jinheM samyakdarzana huA hai, aise jAgRta mahAtmAoM ko pratibhAva hote haiM, ulTe bhAva hoM ki turanta jAgRti unheM dikhAtI hai aura unake sAmane pratibhAva utpanna hotA hai| svabhAva-svakSetra : parabhAva-parakSetra praznakartA : jaba dekho taba Apa aise ke aise hI lagate haiN| pharka nahIM lagatA, vaha kyA hai? dAdAzrI : yaha koI phUla hai jo murajhA jAe? ye to aMdara paramAtmA prakaTa hokara baiThe haiM! nahIM to jarjarita dikheMge! jahA~ parabhAva kA kSaya ho gayA hai, niraMtara svabhAva jAgRti rahatI hai, parabhAva ke prati jinheM kiMcit mAtra ruci nahIM rahI, eka aNu-paramANu jitanI bhI ruci nahIM rahI hai, phira unheM kyA cAhie? parabhAva ke kSaya se aura adhika AnaMda anubhava hotA hai| aura Apa usa kSaya kI ora dRSTi rkhnaa| jitanA parabhAva kSaya huA utanA svabhAva meM sthita huaa| basa, itanA hI samajhane jaisA hai, dUsarA kucha karane jaisA nahIM hai| jaba taka parabhAva hai, taba taka parakSetra hai| parabhAva gayA ki svakSetra meM thor3e samaya rahakara phira siddhakSetra meM sthiti ho jAtI hai| svakSetra, vaha siddhakSetra kA daravAjA hai! ////// ////
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________________ 296 AptavANI-4 (38) 'sva' meM hI svasthatA avasthA meM asvastha praznakartA : mithyAtva kI paribhASA kyA hai? dAdAzrI : mithyAtva arthAt avasthA meM tanmayAkAra rahe-vaha, usakA phala kyA hai? asvsthtaa| aura samyakdarzana kI paribhASA kyA hai? svastha / 'sva' meM mukAma karanevAle avasthA meM mukAma nahIM krte| ve avasthA ko nikAlI kahate haiM aura 'sva' meM hI nirAkula mukAma hotA hai| nirAkulatA siddha bhagavaMta kA svaguNa hai| apanA sAinsa itanA suMdara hai ki Apako kucha bhI vicAra nahIM karanA pdd'taa| nikAla kahA ki chUTa gae! pUrA jagat avasthA meM rahA karatA hai, avasthA se bAhara nahIM nikala sktaa| avasthA meM rahanevAle ko to rAta-dina asvasthatA rahatI hai| gAr3I meM jagaha nahIM mile to bhI aMdara becainI ho jAtI hai| are, usameM becaina kyoM hotA hai? kaha de na ki mere karma ke udaya aise haiN| are, gAr3I meM baiThe hue logoM ko dekhatA rahatA hai ki kauna khar3A ho rahA hai!! mithyAtvI kI samajha kaisI hotI hai? avasthA meM hI tanmayAkAra rahatA hai| garIbI kI avasthA utpanna huI to garIbI meM, zrImaMtAI huI to usameM tanmayAkAra rahatA hai, aise chAtI phulAkara ghUmatA rahatA hai! buqhAra Ae to usameM tanmayAkAra ho jAtA haiM, mujhase nahIM calA jAtA, khegaa| mere jaisA kahe ki, 'isake pIche bAgha chor3a do|' taba vaha daur3egA yA nahIM daur3egA? bekAra hI ye calA nahIM jAtA, calA nahIM jAtA karake ulTe narama ho jAte haiN| jaisA bole vaisA ho jAtA hai| kyoMki AtmA kA svabhAva kaisA hai ki jaisA bole vaisA ho jAtA hai| phira paira samajhate haiM ki hama calate nahIM haiM. to bhI koI DA~TanevAlA nahIM hai| hama unheM kaheM ki, 'nahIM kyoM caloge? usakA karAra abhI taka pUrA nahIM huA hai| aise doeka bAra TokeM to apane Apa cleNge| yaha bAgha pIche par3e taba kyoM calate haiM? isa deha ko khilAte haiM, pilAte haiM, masAledAra cAya pilAte haiM, phira bhI nahIM calegI? jisa avasthA meM AyA, usa avasthA kA jatana karatA rahatA hai| pUrI z2indagI mukta hotA hai, parantu aMtima chaha mahIne jela meM DAla diyA ho to zora macAtA hai ki, 'maiM kaidI ho gayA!' zAdI karavAe taba saubhAgyavatI kA sukha baratatA hai, aura phira pati mara jAe taba vaidhavya kA duHkha khar3A ho jAtA hai| maiM to vidhavA ho gaI' khegii| pichale janma meM vidhavA huI thI aura phira vaha vApisa saubhAgyavatI huI hI thI na? zAdI aura vaidhavya, dUsarA hai hI kyA jagat meM? sabhI avasthAe~ badalatI haiN| AtmA usI rUpa meM rahatA hai| AtmA meM badalAva hotA hI nahIM hai| vastuoM kA vinAza hotA hI nahIM hai| avasthAoM kA pratikSaNa vinAza hotA hai| jagat avasthA meM hI jI rahA hai| 'maiM caMdU hU~, yaha merA beTA hai, yaha merI patnI hai' isa taraha avasthA meM hI mukAma karatA hai! phira kahegA ki, 'maiM bUr3hA ho gayA!' AtmA to kahIM bUr3hA hotA hogA? ye sArI AtmA kI avasthAe~ nahIM hai| prAkRta avasthAe~ haiN| ye kisalie utpanna ho gaI haiM? saMyogoM ke dabAva se| AtmA ko sirpha sparza hone se hI kaoNz2ez2a khar3e ho jAte haiN| ve cArja hote haiM aura usakA phira DiscArja hotA hai| pichale janma ke baccoM kA kyA huA? ve saba abhI taka Apako yAda karate haiN| patra vagairaha likhA hai unheM? yaha to marane kA samaya Ae, taba kahegA ki, 'merI choTI beTI raha gaI hai!' pichale janma ke baccoM ko chor3akara AyA aura isa janma meM 'mere bacce, mere bacce' karake unameM hI tanmayAkAra rahatA hai| yaha to pichalI avasthAe~ niraMtara bhUlatA rahatA hai aura naI avasthA meM tanmayAkAra rahatA hai! avasthAoM meM tanmayAkAra rahe, usakA nAma saMsAra, vaha saMsArabIja DAlatA hai aura svarUpa meM tanmayAkAra rahe usakA nAma mokss|
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________________ (38) 'sva' meM hI svasthatA sukha isa saMsAra meM kaisA hai? ki duHkha par3e use bhI bhUla jAtA hai, Ae use bhI bhUla jAtA hai, bacapana meM baira bA~dhA use bhI bhUla jAtA hai| phira sAtha meM baiThakara cAya pIte haiM, vApisa sabakucha bhUla jAte haiN| parantu jisa samaya jo avasthA utpanna huI, usa avasthA meM ekAkAra hokara hastAkSara kara detA hai| yaha hastAkSara kiyA huA phira miTatA nahIM hai| isalie ye hastAkSara hote haiM unakA harja hai| loga bAta-bAta meM hastAkSara kara dete haiN| yoM hI dabAva DAlate jAte haiM, usameM bhI hastAkSara ho jAte haiN| are apanI beTI koI uThAkara le jAe to usa samaya bhI hastAkSara nahIM karane caahie| loga avasthA meM hI sArA citraNa kara dete haiM, mAra DAlane kA bhI citraNa kara dete haiM! 297 avasthA : paryAya dAdAzrI manuSya kI kitanI avasthAe~ hoMgI? praznakartA: bAlyAvasthA, yuvAvasthA, praur3hAvasthA aura vRddhAvasthA / dAdAzrI : cAra hI avasthAe~ haiM? maraNa avasthA nahIM kahalAtI ? praznakartA: vaha phulapoinTa huA / dAdAzrI : vaha bhI avasthA kahalAtI hai| garbha meM AyA vaha garbhAvasthA huii| usase pahale maraNAvasthA thI / arthAt avasthAoM kA pUrA cakkara calatA hI rahatA hai| Apako to cAra hI avasthAe~ lagatI haiM na? parantu yaha saba pA~ca-pA~ca miniTa meM badalatA rahatA hai| ghar3Ibhara meM ghara ke vicAra Ate haiM, ve do yA tIna miniTa rahate haiM aura vApisa dUsarA vicAra AtA hai| ve sabhI avasthAe~ badalatI rahatI haiN| ye to bar3I-bar3I avasthAoM ko nAma diyA hai / parantu ina sArI avasthAoM meM hI jI rahA hai| 'oNla dIz2a Ara TemparerI eddjsttmentts|' praznakartA: abhI hama to avasthA meM hI haiN| dAdAzrI : ve avasthAe~ phira samAdhAnI nahIM hotiiN| sabhI avasthAoM meM niHzaMka samAdhAna rahe, vaha jJAna kahalAtA hai| apanA jJAna kaisA hai ki AptavANI-4 hara eka avasthAoM meM ni:zaMka samAdhAna hI rahatA hai| yaha to jeba kaTa jAe to bhI Dipresa ho jAtA hai aura koI phUla car3hAe to TAiTa ho jAtA hai| 298 praznakartA: avasthA aura paryAya kyA haiM? dAdAzrI : sArA sApekSa jJAna avasthA kA jJAna hai| paryAya bahuta bArIka, sUkSma vastu hai aura avasthA moTI vastu hai| pA~ca indriyoM se anubhava meM Ae~, ve sabhI avasthAe~ kahalAtI haiM aura paryAya jJAna se samajha meM A sakate haiN| hara eka vastu avasthAvAlI hai| yaha paMkhA hai, vaha mUla svarUpa se paMkhA hai aura abhI usakI calane kI avasthA hai aura phira baMda rahane kI avasthA hogI / avasthA vinAzI hai aura mUla svarUpa tatvasvarUpa hai, vaha avinAzI hai| hara eka avasthA jAne ke lie hI AtI hai| ye jitanI bhI avasthAe~ utpanna hotI haiM, kharAba yA acchI, zAtA vedanIya yA azAtA vedanIya, parantu ve jAne ke lie AtI haiN| avasthAe~ kyA kahatI haiM ki, 'Apa mukta ho jaao|' vahA~ hama upayogapUrvaka raheM, to bilkula zuddha hokara mukta ho jaaeNge| varnA vaisA dAg2avAlA phira se AegA, to dhonA to hameM hI par3egA na? //////////
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________________ (39) jJAna kA svarUpa : kAla kA svarUpa svarUpajJAna kA adhikArI praznakartA: prArabdha ke pAza se baMdhe hue puruSa ko jJAna kA adhikAra hai kyA? dAdAzrI : mahAvIra bhagavAna bhI prArabdha se hI baMdhe hue the aura unheM kevalajJAna kA adhikAra thA, to Apako AtmajJAna kA adhikAra to hogA na? prArabdha se hara eka vyakti baMdhA huA to hotA hai, isalie hI to janma hotA hai| aMtima avatAra bhI prArabdha se baMdhA huA ho tabhI hotA hai| praznakartA: phira prArabdha ko chor3a detA hai? dAdAzrI : phira prArabdha nahIM bNdhtaa| hama Apako jJAna deMge phira Apako prArabdha baMdhegA hI nhiiN| isalie phira karma DiscArja hoMge parantu naye cArja nahIM hoMge, aisA yaha vijJAna hai| praznakartA: sapatnI jJAna lene kA adhikAra hai kyA? dAdAzrI : isa kAla meM kisIkA adhikAra dekhane jaisA hI nahIM hai| isa kAla meM kisIko adhikAra hai hI nhiiN| isalie hama to cAhe jo Ae usake lie khola diyA hai| yaha kAla kauna-sA hai jAnate ho? jaina duSamakAla kahate hai aura vedAMtI kaliyuga kahate hai ? kaliyuga arthAt kyA? kabhI bhI caina nahIM par3e, vaha / 'kala kyA hogA? kala kA kyA hogA?' isa taraha caina nahIM pdd'taa| aura duSamakAla matalaba kyA? ati duHkha uThAkara bhI samatA nahIM rhtii| aba aise kAla meM adhikAra dekhane jAe~ to kisakA 300 naMbara lagegA ? adhikArI haiM hI nahIM !! jAegA? hai? AptavANI-4 praznakartA: to phira Apa jJAna dete hai vaha kRpA kA svarUpa mAnA dAdAzrI : kRpA se hI kAma hogaa| bhItara jo pragaTa ho gae hai una 'dAdA bhagavAna' kI kRpA hI sIdhI utara jAtI hai| usase kAma le lenA hai| hara kisIke pAtra ke anusAra kRpA utaratI hai, phira jitanA vinayavAlA utanI kRpA adhik| sabase bar3A guNa isa jagat meM koI ho to vaha vinaya guNa ! hai ? praznakartA: aisI kahAvata hai na ki kaliyuga meM mokSa jaldI milatA dAdAzrI : sahI bAta hai| isakA kAraNa hai| kaliyuga meM loga pAsa nahIM hote isalie prophesaroM dvArA nizcita kiyA huA par3hAI kA levala adhika nIce lAnA par3atA hai| nahIM to pAsa ho sakeM, aisA hotA hogA? kaliyuga meM manuSyatva kI kakSA ekadama lo (nimna) ho gaI hai isalie hI ApakI qImata hai na? nahIM to kauna vahA~ para mokSa meM ghusane de isa kAla ke logoM ko| parIkSA meM kisIko pAsa to karanA par3egA na, nahIM to kaoNleja baMda kara dene pdd'eN| isalie levala utAra diyA hai| vartamAna meM barateM, jJAnI praznakartA : yuga kI paribhASA meM yaha pahalI bAra kaliyuga AyA dAdAzrI : hara eka kAlacakra meM kaliyuga hotA hI hai| kaliyuga arthAt kyA ki isa dina ke bAda rAta AtI hai na? vaise, yaha kaliyuga hai / kaliyuga hai to satyuga ko satyuga kaha sakate hai| yadi kaliyuga nahIM hotA to satyuga kI qImata hI nahIM hotI na? praznakartA : yuga ke adhIna manuSya hai yA manuSya ke adhIna yuga hai?
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________________ (39) jJAna kA svarUpa : kAla kA svarUpa 301 302 AptavANI-4 vaha to bojhA khlaaegaa| bhUlane se bhulAyA nahIM jA sakatA aura jo bhUlane jAe~ vaha aura adhika yAda AtA hai| eka vyakti mujhe kaha rahA thA ki, maiM sAmAyika karane baiThatA hU~ taba vicAra karatA hU~ ki 'dukAna Aja yAda nahIM aae|' usa dina sAmAyika meM sabase pahalA dhamAkA dukAna kA hI hotA hai! aisA kisalie hotA hai? kyoMki dukAna kA tiraskAra kiyA na ki dukAna yAda nahIM Ae! hameM to kisIkA tiraskAra nahIM karanA caahie| vartamAna meM rahanA, vahI eka bAta hai| bhUtakAla aura bhaviSyakAla ke sAtha hamArA lenA bhI nahIM hai aura denA bhI nahIM hai| vartamAna meM hI rahe, vahI amarapada kahalAtA hai| hama vartamAna meM aise ke aise hI rahate haiN| rAta ko uThAo taba bhI aise aura dina meM uThAo taba bhI aise hii| jaba dekho taba aise ke aise hI hote haiN| kAladravya dAdAzrI : aisA hai na, abhI loga to samaya ke adhIna hai| parantu mUla jo samaya huA hai vaha 'hamase' hI utpanna haA hai| Apa hI rAjA ho aura rAjA ke pIche utpanna ho cukA huA yaha saba hai| praznakartA : samaya hI bhagavAna hai aura samaya hI paramezvara hai? dAdAzrI: samaya hI paramezvara nahIM hotaa| nahIM to loga 'samayasamaya' karate rhte| paramezvara to Apa khuda hI ho, use pahacAnane kI jarUrata hai| kAla to bIca meM nimitta hai maatr| hamameM aura ApameM pharka kitanA? hamane kAla ko vaza meM kiyA hai| logoM ko to kAla khA jAtA hai| Apako kAla ko vaza karanA bAqI hai| kAla vaza meM kisa taraha hotA hai? bhUtakAla vismRta ho gayA, bhaviSyakAla 'vyavasthita' ke hAtha meM, isalie vartamAna meM rho| taba kAla vaza meM hotA hai| apanA 'akrama' kA sAmAyika karate-karate vartamAnakAla ko pakar3anA A jAtA hai| aise sIdhA-sIdhA nahIM aataa| Apa eka ghaMTe sAmAyika meM baiThate ho taba vartamAna meM hI rahate ho na! vartamAna meM rahanA matalaba kyA? abhI yadi Apa hisAba likha rahe hoM to bilakula ekjekTa usameM hI rahoge na? usa samaya bhaviSya meM jAo to hisAba meM bhUla ho jaaegii| vartamAna meM hI rahe to eka bhI bhUla nahIM ho aisA hai| prApta vartamAna ko bhogo, aisA maiM kahatA huuN| bhUtakAla to calA gyaa| bhUtakAla ko to ye buddhizAlI bhI nahIM ukhaadd'te| aura bhaviSya kA vicAra kare, vaha agrazoca hai, isalie vartamAna meM rho| vartamAna meM satsaMga hotA hai to vaha ekAgra citta se sunanA caahie| hisAba likha rahe ho to vaha ekAgra citta se likho aura gAliyA~ de rahe ho to gAliyA~ bhI ekAgra citta se do| vartamAna meM barate sadA, ve jnyaanii| loga bhaviSya kI ciMtA ko lekara aura bhUtakAla ko lekara vartamAna nahIM bhoga sakate aura hisAba meM bhUla kara dete haiN| 'jJAnI puruSa' vartamAna nahIM bigaadd'te| praznakartA : bhUta aura bhaviSya ko bhUla jAnA hai? dAdAzrI : nahIM, bhUla nahIM jAnA hai, vartamAna meM hI rahanA hai| bhUlanA, praznakartA : kAla nAma kA dravya kisa taraha kAma karatA hai? dAdAzrI : kAla to naimittika hai| eka paramANu usakA avakAza bhAga choDakara jitane kAla meM dUsare avakAza kAla meM praviSTa hotA hai. utane kAla ko 'samaya' kahate haiN| yaha saMsAra samasaraNa hai, niraMtara pravAhamAna hai| thor3A bhI sthira nahIM rhtaa| bahuta sAre samaya kA pala banatA hai| hamAre kahate hI Apa samajha jAte ho. vaha adhika DevalapamenTa kahalAtA hai| jitanA kAla kama le utanA DevalapamenTa adhika aura adhika kAla le utanA kama DevalapamenTa kahalAtA hai| kAla sUkSma hai| samaya sUkSma se bhI sUkSma hai| hamArA kAla samaya ke naz2adIka kA hotA hai aura tIrthaMkaroM kA samaya hotA hai| Aja yadi samaya taka pahu~ce to mokSa ho jaae| parantu isa kAla kI vicitratA hai ki samaya taka pahu~cA nahIM jA sktaa|
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________________ (80) vANI kA svarUpa vANI AtmA kA guNa nahIM hai dAdAzrI : yaha bola rahA hai, vaha kauna bola rahA hai? praznakartA: Apa, dAdA bhagavAna bola rahe haiN| dAdAzrI : maiM khuda nahIM bolatA huuN| merI bolane kI zakti hI nahIM hai na! yaha to orijinala TeparikaoNrDa bola rahA hai| usa para se dUsare TeparikaoNrDa meM rikaoNrDa karanA ho to kara sakate haiM, tIsarA kara sakate haiM, cauthA kara sakate haiN| aura tujhe to aisA hI hai na ki, 'maiM khuda bola rahA huuN|' khuda bolatA hai isIlie vaha pajala meM hai aura maiM paz2ala ko solva karake baiThA huuN| tU bolatA hai, usakA ahaMkAra karatA hai ki maiM bolatA hU~ / bAkI terA bhI TeparikaoNrDa hI bolatA hai| AtmA bola sake vaisA hai hI nhiiN| AtmA meM vANI nAma kA guNadharma hI nahIM hai| zabda AtmA kA guNadharma nahIM hai aura pudgala kA bhI guNadharma nahIM hai| yadi usakA vaha guNa hotA to hamezA ke lie hotA / para isakA to nAza ho jAtA hai| vAstava meM zabda pudgala kA paryAya hai| vaha pudgala kI avasthA hai| do paramANu TakarAe~ to AvAz2a utpanna hotI hai| isa gAr3I kA horna aise dabAe to kyA hogA? vANI niklegii| praznakartA: aise dabAne se jo vANI nikalatI hai vaha to yAMtrika vANI kahalAtI hai, parantu jJAnI kI vANI yAMtrika vANI nahIM nikalI hai na? dAdAzrI : hamArI vANI TeparikaoNrDa hai aura ApakI vANI TeparikaoNrDa 304 hai| mAtra 'jJAnI' kI vANI syAdavAda hotI hai| AptavANI-4 praznakartA: syAdavAda, vaha cetanavANI kahalAtI hai? dAdAzrI : vANI cetana ho hI nahIM sakatI, phira vaha hamArI ho yA aapkii| hA~, hamArI vANI saMpUrNa zuddha cetana ko sparza karake nikalatI hai, isalae cetana jaisI bhAsita hotI hai| praznakartA: 'vANI jar3a hai' aisA kaha sakate haiM kyA? dAdAzrI : 'vANI jar3a hai' aisA kaha sakate haiM, parantu cetana hai vaisA to nahIM hI kaha skte| gAr3I kA horna dabAe~ to vaha bajatA hai yA nahIM bajatA? aise dabAyA to aMdara jo paramANu the ve bhAgadaur3a macA dete haiM, ekadUsare se TakarAte haiM, usase AvAz2a hotI hai yaha sArI / bAje meM se kaisA nikalatA hai? vaise hI, isa bAje meM se ghisa ghisakara hI nikalatA hai sArA / yaha saba mikenikala hai| AtmA khuda paramAtmA svarUpa hai| syAdvAda vANI praznakartA : ApakI vANI, 'jJAnI' kI vANI kaisI kahalAtI hai? dAdAzrI : syAdavAda vANI, vaha anekAMta kahalAtI hai| praznakartA: syAdavAda arthAt kyA? dAdAzrI : kisI bhI dharma kA kiMcit mAtra pramANa nahIM dubhe, vaisI vaannii| isa vANI ko vaiSNava, jaina, zvetAMbara, digaMbara, sthAnakavAsI, pArasI, muslima, sabhI eksepTa karate haiN| yaha ekAMtika nahIM hai, anekAMta hai ismeN| praznakartA ise nirAgrahI kaha sakate haiM? dAdAzrI : hA~, kaha sakate haiN| isameM kisI bhI prakAra kA Agraha nahIM hotaa| praznakartA: nirAgrahI vANI ke lie Apako socakara bolanA par3atA hai yA nahIM?
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________________ (40) vANI kA svarUpa 305 306 AptavANI-4 dAdAzrI : nhiiN| yadi socakara boleM, to vaha nirAgrahI vANI hogI hI nhiiN| yaha to DAirekTa cetana ko sparza karake nikalatI hai| 'jJAnI' kI vANI jAgRti sahita hotI hai| vaha sAmanevAle ke hita ke lie hI hotI hai| kisIkA hita thor3A bhI nahIM bigar3e, usa anusAra jAgRti meM rahatA hI hai| abhI isa kAla meM upadeza dene jAe~ to baMdhana ho, vaisA hai| kaSAya sahita prarUpaNA vaha narka meM jAne kI nizAnI hai| bahuta huA to maMdakaSAyI ko calA sakate haiN| varnA yaha to bahuta hI bhArI jokhima hai| akaSAyI vANI kA artha kyA hai? vANI kA mAlika 'khuda' nahIM hai vaha / vANI kA mAlika ho, vaha to kyA kahegA ki 'maiM kitanI acchI vANI bolA! Apako pasaMda AyA na?' arthAt usakA ceka bhunA detA hai| hama to vANI ke mAlika nahIM haiM, mana ke nahIM haiM aura isa deha ke bhI mAlika nahIM haiN| 'jJAnI puruSa' kI vANI ullAsapUrvaka sunate raheM, usase vaisI vANI hotI jAtI hai| sirpha nakala karane se kucha nahIM hogaa| praznakartA : syAdavAda vANI kaba nikalatI hai? dAdAzrI : sabhI karmoM kA kSaya ho jAe, krodha-mAna-mAyA-lobha kA kSaya ho jAe, taba syAdavAda vANI nikalatI hai| saMpUrNa vItarAga vijJAna hAjira honA caahie| AtmA kA spaSTa anubhava ho cukA ho, tabhI nikalatI hai| taba taka sArI buddhi kI bAteM, vyavahAra kI bAteM mAnI jAtI hai| syAdavAda vANI nahIM nikale, taba taka mokSamArga meM upadeza denA bhayaMkara jokhimadArI hai| upadeza kA adhikArI upadeza kauna de sakatA hai? sAmanevAlA koI vivAda khar3A nahIM kara sake, vhii| varnA apane mArga meM carcA hotI hI nhiiN| hamArI pustaka samajhane kA tarIkA kyA hai? do loga eka jaisA nahIM smjhte| eka saccI samajhavAlA aura dUsarA adhUrI samajhavAlA hotA hai| usameM adharI samajhavAle ne z2ida pakar3I ki 'merA hI saccA hai, to use 'terA hI karekTa hai' kahakara Age nikala jaao| sat kI samajha meM vivAda nahIM honA caahie| merA saccA hai, aisA nahIM mAnanA caahie| merA hai, isalie saca hai' aisA aMdara hotA rahe, vaha roga utpanna haA kahalAtA hai| apanI saccI bAta sAmanevAlA kabUla karegA hii| yadi nahIM kare to hameM chor3a denA caahie| maiM jo bolU~ vaha sAmanevAle kA AtmA kabUla karegA hii| kabUla nahIM karatA, vaha usakI Ar3AI hai| kyoMki yaha vANI merI nahIM hai| isalie isameM bhUla nahIM hotii| 'merI vANI hai' aisA jahA~ para ho, vahA~ para vANI meM bhUla hotI syAdavAdavANI kaba utpanna hotI hai? ahaMkAra kI bhUmikA pUrI ho jAe tb| pUrA jagat nirdoSa dikhatA hai, koI doSita hI nahIM dikhatA! cora bhI hameM doSita nahIM dikhtaa| loga kahate haiM ki corI karanA gunAha hai, para cora kyA samajhatA hai ki corI karanA merA dharma hai| hamAre pAsa koI cora ko lekara Ae to hama usake kaMdhe para hAtha rakhakara akele meM paTheMge ki 'bhAI, yaha biz2anesa tujhe acchA lagatA hai? pasaMda hai?' phira vaha apanI sArI haqIqata btaaegaa| hamAre pAsa use bhaya nahIM lgtaa| manuSya bhaya ke kAraNa jhUTha bolatA hai| phira use samajhAte haiM ki, 'yaha tU karatA hai usakI jimmedArI kyA AegI, usakA phala kyA hai, usakI tujhe khabara hai?' aura 'tU corI karatA hai' vaisA hamAre mana meM bhI nahIM rhtaa| aisA yadi kabhI hamAre mana meM ho to usake mana para asara pdd'egaa| harakoI apane-apane dharma meM hai| kisI bhI dharma kA pramANa nahIM du:khe, vaha syAdavAda vANI kahalAtI hai| syAdavAda vANI saMpUrNa hotI hai| hara eka kI prakRti alaga-alaga hotI hai, phira bhI syAdavAda vANI kisIkI bhI prakRti ko ar3acanarUpa nahIM hotii| 'jJAnI puruSa' sabhI davAIyA~ batA dete haiN| roga kA nidAna bhI kara dete haiM aura davAI bhI batA dete haiN| hameM sirpha pUcha lenA cAhie ki 'saccI bAta kyA hai? aura mujhe to aisA samajha meM AyA hai' taba ve turanta batA dete haiM, aura vaha 'baTana' dabAe~ ki calane lagatA hai! dharma kI carcA meM sAmanevAle ko samajhAne ke tarIke alaga-alaga haiN|
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________________ (40) vANI kA svarUpa 307 308 AptavANI-4 (1) vANI se khuda kA sva-rakSaNa, sva-bacAva kre| vaha eka prakAra kahalAtA hai| mokSa taka le jaaegaa| praznakartA : aisI vANI kisIko prApta karanI ho to kyA kare? dAdAzrI : hameM hararoja bhAvapUrvaka mA~ganA cAhie ki merI vANI se kisIko du:kha nahIM ho aura sukha hI ho| vaise kaoNja kA sevana karanA cAhie, to prApta hogii| vacanabala, jJAnI ke (2) sAmanevAle ko khuda kanvinsa kare - vaha eka tarIkA hai| sAmanevAlA kisI bhI dharma kA pAlana karatA ho, phira bhI vaha sahamata ho jAe, aisA bolanA AnA cAhie na? itanI zakti honI cAhie na? jitanA jJAna samajha meM Ae utanI zakti utpanna hotI hai| aura sAmanevAle ko kanvinsa karate samaya thor3e bhI krodha-mAna-mAyA-lobha nahIM hone caahie| nahIM to, phira sAmanevAlA kanvinsa hogA hI nhiiN| kaSAya utpanna honA to kamajorI hai| (3) kucha loga kacce hote haiM to khuda sAmanevAle ko samajhAne jAte haiM, parantu sAmanevAle ke prabhAva se khuda hI badala jAte haiM ! sAmanevAle aisAaisA pUchate haiM ki khuda ulajha jAtA hai aura mana meM aise palaTa jAtA hai ki mujhe to koI jJAna hI nahIM hai| hRdayasparzI sarasvatI 'jJAnI puruSa' kI vANI mIThI-madhura, kisIko AghAta nahIM pahu~ce, pratyAghAta nahIM pahu~ce aisI hotI hai| kisIko kiMcit mAtra duHkha nahIM ho aisI vANI nikale, vaha saba cAritra hI hai| vANI kaise nikalatI hai usa para se cAritrabala pahacAnA jA sakatA hai| bAkI dUsarI kisI cIja para se cAritrabala pahacAnA nahIM jA sktaa| yadi buddhi syAdavAda ho to syAdavAda jaise lakSaNa lagate haiM, parantu saMpUrNa nahIM hote| jaba ki jJAna-syAdavAda ho, usakA cAritra to vItarAga cAritra hotA hai| jJAna-syAdavAda ko hara eka dharma ke loga pramANa kI taraha svIkAra karate haiN| usa vANI meM Agraha jarA bhI nahIM hotaa| yaha to vijJAna hai| jaba vANI sarasvatI svarUpa ho jAe taba logoM ke hRdaya ko sparza karatI hai, tabhI to logoM kA kalyANa hotA hai| varlDa meM hRdayasparzI vANI milanI muzkila hotI hai| hamArI vANI hadayasparzI hotI hai, usakA eka zabda hI yadi ApameM sIdhA utara jAe to vaha Apako TheTha 'jJAnI puruSa' ke eka-eka zabda meM gaz2aba kA vacanabala hotA hai| vacanabala kise kahate haiM ki maiM kahU~ ki 'saba khar3e ho jAo', vacana ke anusAra saba loga caleM, vaha vacanabala kahalAtA hai| vacanabala se vacana siddha hotA rahatA hai| abhI to vacanabala hI nahIM rahA na? bApa beTe se kahegA ki, 'tU so jaa|' to beTA kahegA ki, 'nahIM, maiM sinemA dekhane jA rahA huuN|' vacanabala to kise kahate haiM ki ApakA vacana nikale usa anusAra hI ghara ke saba loga kreN| praznakartA : vacanabala kisa taraha prApta hotA hai? dAdAzrI : vacanabala kisa taraha calA gayA hai? isa vANI kA durupayoga kiyA islie| jhUTha bole, logoM ko jhiDaka diyA, kutte ko DarAyA, prapaMca kie, usase vacanabala TUTa jAtA hai| jhUTha bolakara sva-bacAva kare, satya ke Agraha aura durAgraha kare, taba bhI vacanabala TUTa jAtA hai| beTe ko jhiDake. 'sAle. sIdhA baitth|' usase beTe ke sAmane vacanabala nahIM rhtaa| yadi vANI aisI nikale ki sAmanevAle ke hRdaya meM ghAva kare to dUsare janma meM vANI bilkula baMda ho jAtI hai, dasa-paMdraha varSa taka gUMgA rahatA hai| jitanA Apako samajha meM Ae utanA satya bolnaa| samajha meM nahIM Ae vahA~ nahIM bole, usameM harja nahIM hai| to utanA vacanabala utpanna hogaa| 'kisIko duHkha ho vaisA nahIM bolanA hai' aisA nakkI karanA aura 'dAdA' ke
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________________ (40) vANI kA svarUpa 309 310 AptavANI-4 pAsa se vacanabala kI zakti mA~gate rahanA, to usase vaha prApta hogaa| hamArA vacanabala aura ApakI dRr3ha icchA honI caahie| hamArA vacanabala Apake sarva aMtarAya dUra kara degaa| ApakI parIkSA hogI, parantu pAra utara jaaoge| mauna tapobala praznakartA : mauna ko tapobala kahate haiM, vaha kisa artha meM? dAdAzrI : mauna tapobala arthAt manuSya kisI jagaha para mauna nahIM rakha sake, vahA~ para yadi mauna rahe to vaha mauna tapobala meM jAtA hai| naukara ne pyAlA phor3a diyA, vahA~ para mauna rahe, to vaha tapa mAnA jaaegaa| isalie mauna jaisI sakhtI isa jagat meM koI nahIM hai| yadi bole to sArI sakhtI sArI bekAra calI jAtI hai| sabase bar3A tapa mauna hai| bApa ke sAtha jhagar3A ho, vahA~ para mauna rakhe to tapa hotA hai| usa tapa meM aMdara sabakucha vilaya ho jAtA hai aura usameM se sAinsa ubharakara AtA hai| Aja to loga mauna rakhate haiM aura dUsare dina ekasAtha sArA ufAna nikAlate haiM! mauna tapobala to bahuta kAma nikAla detA hai| pUre jagat kA kalyANa kara detA hai| isalie kavi ne likhA hai na, 'satpuruSanuM mauna tapobaLa, nizcaya AkhA jaga ne tAre!' - navanIta / ina dAdA ke pAsa sabakucha bolane kI chUTa hai, phira bhI mauna rahate haiM, vaha mauna tapobala kahalAtA hai| praznakartA : mauna kise kahate haiM? dAdAzrI : AtmArtha jo-jo bolA jAtA hai, vaha saba mauna hI mAnA jAtA hai| detA hai| isa saMsAra kA jaMjAla hI zabdoM meM se khar3A huA hai| mauna se to zakti bahuta hI bar3ha jAtI hai aura bAhara kI vANI se logoM ko duHkha hotA hai, vaha patthara kI taraha lagatA hai| mauna ke dina utanA to baMda hogA na? mauna, vaha saMyama lAtA hai| yaha sthUla mauna bhI saMyama lAtA hai| vaha ahaMkAra kA mauna kahalAtA hai| aura 'maiM zuddhAtmA hU~' usa prakAra se jAgRta rahe vaha zuddhAtmA kA mauna kahalAtA hai| praznakartA : to phira mauna kaisA honA cAhie? dAdAzrI : mauna kise kahA jAtA hai ki jisameM nokaSAya nahIM hote, hAsya, zoka, jugupsA vagairaha nahIM hote| bhItara sUkSma vANI bhI nahIM hotii| mauna ke samaya sthUla to bolate hI nahIM aura likhate haiM vaha bhI vANI hI hai| mauna meM likhate bhI nahIM haiN| mauna sabhI caMcalatA ko baMda kara detA hai| likhakara kahanA, izArA karanA, kucha bhI nahIM ho, taba vaha saccA mauna kahalAtA hai| praznakartA : hameM aMdara krodha A rahA ho aura bAhara mauna ho, taba kyA kareM? dAdAzrI : isalie hI to hama kahate haiM ki vANI se cAhe jaisA bole, AcaraNa pAgaloM jaisA kare, parantu aMta meM 'tU' bhagavAna pakSa meM rhnaa| zaitAna pakSa meM yaha saba ho cukA ho, parantu mana ko bhagavAna pakSa meM rkhnaa| zaitAna pakSa meM mata de diyA to khatma ho gyaa| praznakartA : ina sabhI bAtoM meM mana hI adhika kAma karatA hai na? dAdAzrI : mana ke kAraNa yaha saMsAra khar3A ho gayA hai| eka mana se saMsAra asta hotA rahatA hai aura eka mana se udaya hotA hai| praznakartA : sAmanevAle kA vyU poinTa samajha meM nahIM Ae to kyA kareM? dAdAzrI : mauna rho| mauna rahane se buddhihIna manuSya bhI samajhadAra mAne jAte haiN| kabhI kahate haiM ki 'tujhameM barakata nahIM hai|' taba mauna rhnaa| praznakartA : sthala bolanA baMda karake mauna kA pAlana karanA hitakArI dAdAzrI : sthUla mauna to sthUla ahaMkAra ko bahuta chinna-bhinna kara
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________________ (40) vANI kA svarUpa 311 312 AptavANI-4 aura usa samaya yadi Apa virodha karane lage to vaha use yAda rahegA aura kahegA ki, 'ye to binA barakata kA hI hai|' isa dUSamakAla meM vANI se hI baMdhana hai| suSamakAla meM mana se baMdhana thaa| ye zabda nahIM hote na to mokSa to AsAna hI hai| isalie kisIke lie eka akSara bhI nahIM bola skte| kisIko galata kahanA, vaha khuda ke AtmA para dhUla DAlane ke samAna hai| ye zabda bolanA to jokhimadArI hai saarii| ulTA bole to usakI bhI bhItara khada para dhala giratI hai, ulTA soce to usakI bhI bhItara khuda para dhUla giratI hai| isalie usa ulTe kA Apako pratikramaNa kara lenA cAhie, to usase chUTA jA sakatA hai| jIvaMta TeparikaoNrDa, kaisI jimmedArI! ye TeparikaoNrDa aura TrAnsamITara aise-aise to kitane hI sAdhana abhI bana gae haiN| to bar3e-bar3e logoM ko bhaya lagatA hI rahatA hai ki koI kucha Tepa kara legA to? aba inameM to zabda Tepa hote haiM, utanA hI hai| parantu manuSya kA zarIra, mana sabakucha hI Tepa ho jAe, aisA hai| usakA loga thor3AsA bhI bhaya nahIM rkhte| yadi sAmanevAlA so rahA ho aura Apa kaho ki 'yaha nAlAyaka hai', to vaha usake aMdara Tepa ho gayA! vaha phira use phala degaa| arthAt sote hue manuSya ke bAre meM bhI nahIM bolte| eka akSara bhI nahIM bolte| kyoMki sabakucha Tepa ho jAe aisI yaha mazInarI hai! bolanA ho to acchA bolanA ki, 'sAhaba, Apa bahuta acche vyakti haiM' acchA bhAva rakhanA, to usake phalasvarUpa Apako sukha milegaa| parantu thor3A-sA bhI ulTA bole, aMdhere meM bhI bole yA akele meM bhI bole, to usakA phala kar3avA jahara jaisA aaegaa| yaha saba Tepa hI ho jAnevAlA hai| isalie aba yaha acchA Tepa krvaao| praznakartA : kar3avA to cAhie hI nhiiN| dAdAzrI: kar3avA to Apako cAhie to bolanA, nahIM cAhie to mata bolnaa| koI mAre, phira bhI use kar3avA mata bolnaa| use kahanA ki, 'terA upakAra mAnatA huuN| bhagavAna ne to kahA hai ki isa kAla meM koI gAliyA~ de gayA ho, to use Apa khuda bhojana ke lie bulaanaa| itanI adhika vAilDanesa hogI ki use kSamA hI denaa| yadi koI rivenja (badalA) lene gae na, to phira vApisa saMsAra meM khiNceNge| rivenja nahIM lenA hotA hai isa kAla meN| isa duSamakAla meM nirI vAilDanesa hotI hai| kyA vicAra nahIM Ae~ge, vaha kahA hI nahIM jA sktaa| duniyA se bAhara ke vicAra bhI Ate haiM! isa kAla ke jIva to bahuta ttkraaeNge| aise logoM ke sAtha hama baira bA~dhe to hameM bhI TakarAnA pdd'egaa| isalie hama kaheM, 'salAma saahb|' isa kAla meM turanta mAfI de denI cAhie, nahIM to Apako khiMcanA pdd'egaa| aura yaha jagat to baira se hI khar3A rahA hai| isa kAla meM kisIko samajhAne jAyA jAe, aisA nahIM hai| yadi samajhAnA Ae to acche zabdoM meM samajhAo ki yadi vaha Tepa ho jAe, phira bhI jimmedArI nahIM aae| isalie poz2iTiva rhnaa| jagat meM poz2iTiva hI sukha degA aura negeTiva sabhI du:kha degaa| yAnI kitanI bar3I jokhimadArI hai? nyAya-anyAya dekhanevAlA to bahuta logoM ko gAliyA~ detA hai| nyAyaanyAya to dekhane jaisA hI nahIM hai| nyAya-anyAya to eka tharmAmITara hai jagat kA, ki kise kitanA bukhAra utara gayA aura kitanA caDhA? jagat kabhI bhI nyAyI bananevAlA nahIM hai aura anyAyI bhI honevAlA nahIM hai| aise kA aisA hI milAjulA calatA rhegaa| yaha jagat hamezA se aise kA aisA hI hai| satyuga meM jarA kama bigar3A huA vAtAvaraNa hotA hai, abhI adhika asara hai| rAmacaMdrajI ke samaya meM sItA kA haraNa karanevAle loga the, to abhI nahIM hoMge? yaha calatA hI rhegaa| yaha mazInarI aisI hI hai pahale se| use patA hI nahIM calatA, khuda kI jimmedAriyoM kA bhAna nahIM hai, isalie gairajimmedArIvAlA mata bolnaa| gairajimmedArIvAlA AcaraNa mata krnaa| gairajimmedArIvAlA kucha bhI mata karanA, sabakucha pojiTiva lenaa| kisIkA acchA karanA ho to karane jAnA, nahIM to bure meM to par3anA hI nahIM aura burA socanA bhI nhiiN| burA sunanA bhI nahIM kisiikaa| bahuta jokhimadArI hai| nahIM to itanA bar3A jagat usameM
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________________ (40) vANI kA svarUpa mokSa to khuda ke aMdara hI par3A huA hai aura milatA nahIM hai !!! aura kitane hI janmoM se bhaTaka rahA hai !!! 313 sAmAnya vyavahAra meM bolane meM harja nahIM hai, parantu dehadhArI mAtra lie kucha bhI Ter3hA-mer3hA bologe to vaha aMdara rikaoNrDa ho jAegA! isa saMsAra ke logoM ko rikaoNrDa karanA ho to dera hI kitanI? eka jarA-sA cher3o to pratipakSI bhAva Tepa hote hI rheNge| 'tujhameM kamaz2oriyA~ aisI haiM ki cher3ane se pahale hI tU bolane lgegaa|' praznakartA: kharAba bolanA to nahIM hai, parantu kharAba bhAva bhI nahIM AnA cAhie na ? dAdAzrI : bhAva nahIM AnA cAhie, vaha bAta sahI hai| bhAva meM Ae vaha bole bagaira rahA nahIM jaataa| isalie bolanA yadi baMda ho jAe na to bhAva baMda ho jaaeNge| ye bhAva to bolI ke pIche rahe hue pratighoSa haiN| pratipakSI bhAva to utpanna hue binA rahate hI nahIM na! hameM pratipakSI bhAva nahIM hote haiM, vahA~ taka Apako bhI pahu~canA hai| utanI apanI kamaz2orI jAnI hI cAhie ki pratipakSI bhAva utpanna nahIM hoN| aura zAyada kabhI ho gae hoM to Apake pAsa pratikramaNa kA hathiyAra hai, usase miTA denaa| pAnI kArakhAne meM gayA ho, lekina barpha nahIM bane, taba taka harja nahIM hai, barpha bana jAne ke bAda hAtha meM nahIM rhtaa| hamase patra meM kisIke lie kucha galata likhA gayA ho, parantu vaha patra DAlA nahIM ho, taba taka vApisa nIce likhA jA sakatA hai ki Upara Apake lie do zabda kharAba likha die gae haiM, usa ghar3I mere dimAg2a meM kucha pAgalapana A gayA hogA, isalie likha liyA gayA, isalie kRpayA mujhe mAfa kiijie| aisA likho to saba mAfa ho jAtA hai| parantu usa ghar3I inakI ijjata jAtI hai, isalie nahIM likhte| ye AbarUdAra ke cithar3e sAre ! kitane hI kapar3e rakheM, taba jAkara ijjata rahatI hai| vaha bhI phira phaTa gayA ho to jor3a lagAnA par3atA hai| kapar3A mailA huA ho to kalaha kara dete haiM, 'merI sapheda TopI dhoI hI nahIM tumane, nAvachApa pahanatA thA na, vaha ? AptavANI-4 istrI kyoM nahIM kI?' aba istrI ke lie kalaha karatA hai| kisalie AbarU rakhatA hai yaha? naMgA phire, phira bhI loga pUjA kareM, vaisI AbarU DhUMDha nikAla / 314 bhItara anaMta zaktiyA~ haiN| jisa dizA meM le jAnI ho, vahA~ le jA sakate ho, vaise ho| rAstA jAnane kI z2arUrata hai| jitanI premamaya DIliMga hogI, basa utanI hI vANI isa TeparikaoNrDa meM pusAe vaisI hai, usakA yaza acchA milegaa| zAstroM ne kahA hai ki kharAba mata bolanA, kharAba mata socnaa| hama socate haiM ki aisA kyoM gAte rahate hoMge ye? ye mazInarI hI aisI hai ki saba Tepa ho jAtA hai| phira jaba purAvA (pramANa) A mileM taba phaz2ItA hotA hai| praznakartA: purAve saMyoga ke rUpa meM bAhara Ate haiM? dAdAzrI : haaN| saMyoga ikaTThe ho jAe~ taba bAhara AtA hai aura kucha purAve hameM aMdara hI aMdara parezAna karate haiN| vaha bhI aMdara saMyoga ikaTThe ho jAe~ taba / ve aMdara ke saMyoga kahalAte haiN| ve 'sAinTiphika sarakamasTenziyala eviDensa' haiN| ghara meM patnI ko DA~TeM to vaha samajhatA hai ki 'kisIne sunA hI nahIM na, yaha to yoM hI hai na?' choTe bacce hoM to unakI upasthiti meM pati patnI cAhe jaisA bolate haiN| ve samajhate haiM ki yaha choTA baccA kyA samajhanevAlA hai? are, aMdara Tepa ho rahA hai, usakA kyA? vaha bar3A hogA taba vaha rikaoNrDa ho cukA bAhara nikalegA ! praznakartA: jise Tepa meM rikaoNrDa nahIM karanA ho usake lie kyA rAstA hai? dAdAzrI : koI bhI spaMdana nahIM karanA caahie| sabakucha dekhate hI rahanA cAhie, parantu aisA hotA nahIM hai na? yaha bhI mazIna hai aura phira parAdhIna hai| isalie use hama dUsarA rAstA batAte haiM ki yadi Tepa ho jAe to turanta miTA denA, to clegaa| yaha pratikramaNa use miTAne kA sAdhana hai|
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________________ (40) vANI kA svarUpa 315 usase ekAdha janma meM parivartita hokara aisA saba bolanA baMda ho jaaegaa| praznakartA: zuddhAtmA kA lakSya baiTha jAne ke bAda niraMtara pratikramaNa calate hI rahate haiN| dAdAzrI : isalie ApakI jimmedArI nahIM rahatI / hameM to kavirAja ke pada ekz2ekTa usI AvAz2a meM, usI rAga meM, do-do, tIna-tIna ghaMToM taka niraMtara sunAI hI dete rahate haiN| vaha kyA hogA ? vaha to mazIna hai| yaha bhI bahuta bar3A sAinsa hai / vaha TeparikaoNrDa manuSya ne banAyA huA hai aura yaha to anaupacArika hai| manuSya se bana hI nahIM sake, vaisI yaha mazIna hai| isameM ilekTrika karanTa nahIM cAhie, beTarI nahIM caahie| rAta-dina, barasAta ho yA garamI par3e, barpha par3e phira bhI yaha mazIna calatI hI rahatI hai| paMdraha varSa pahale hamane kisI vyakti ko dekhA ho, use Aja dekheM, phira bhI vaha hameM phira se yAda A jAtA hai ki ise dekhA thaa| aisI yaha mazIna hai| pratyeka paramANu meM Tepa karane kI zakti hai| A~khoM ko philma khIMcane kI zakti hai, aMdara apAra zaktiyA~ haiN| isa eka aMdara kI mazIna para se dUsarI saba apAra mazIneM banatI haiN| yAnI yaha mazIna bahuta z2abaradasta pAvaraphula hai| jaba taka jagat vyavahAra kI Apako z2arUrata hai, taba taka manohara lage vaisA bolo| jisake vANI, vartana aura vinaya manohara ho gae, vaha premAtmA ho gyaa| parantu vaha Ae kisa taraha? vANI aisI bolate haiM ki sAmanevAlA cAya de rahA ho, vaha bhI nahIM de / koI anajAne gA~va meM hama gae hoM aura vahA~ para bolate raheM ki, 'ye sAre loga aise hI gae bIte haiN|' aisA gAte raheM to zAma ko khAnA milegA kyA? isake badale to 'Apa bahuta acche loga ho|' aisA kaheM to sAmane se loga pUcheMge ki 'Apane kucha khAyA yA nahIM?' AptavANI-4 isa kAla meM to maz2Aka bhI nahIM kara skte| eka zabda bhI nahIM bola skte| moTe hoM to unheM moTe nahIM kaha skte| lambe hoM to unheM lambe nahIM kaha skte| ye loga to plAsTika jaise ho cuke haiN| apane loga to cAhe jisakI niMdA karate haiN| sirpha manuSya kA to ThIka hai parantu ina phrUTsa kI bhI niMdA karate haiN| yaha bAdIvAlA hai, kheNge| isase garmI ho jaaegii| are, tujhe bAdI hogI, dUsare ko nhiiN| lekina inakI bhASA hI Ter3hI hai, vahA~ kyA? bola se hI jagat khar3A huA hai aura bola se hI jagat baMda ho 316 jaaegaa| ina sudhare hue gharoM meM- sabhya logoM ke yahA~ asabhya vartana ke duHkha nahIM hote, asabhya vANI ke duHkha hote haiN| ina logoM ke ghara para koI patthara mAratA hogA? nahIM, vacanabANa mArate haiN| aba yaha patthara mAre vaha acchA yA vAkbANa mAre vaha acchA? praznakartA: patthara acchaa| dAdAzrI : apane yahA~ ke loga patthara pasaMda karate haiM aura vANI coTa nahIM pahu~cAtI phira bhI use pasaMda nahIM krte| jo lage aura khUna nikale, jalana ho, DaoNkTara ko batAkara usakA ilAja kiyA jA sakatA hai| vaha ghAva bhara jAegA, parantu yaha zabda kA ghAva lage to nahIM bhrtaa| paMdraha-paMdraha varSa ho jAe phira bhI vaha ghAva jalatA hI rahatA hai! usakA kyA kAraNa hai? yaha khuda bola rahA hai aisA mAna liyA hai isalie hama gAranTI dete haiM ki jIva- mAtra kI vANI rikaoNrDa hai| yaha hamArI bhI rikaoNrDa hai na! yaha rikaoNrDa baja rahA ho ki 'caMdUlAla acche vyakti nahIM hai, acche vyakti nahIM hai| ' to Apako gussA AegA? praznakartA: vaha to mazIna hai na? dAdAzrI : to ye manuSya bolate haiM vaha TeparikaoNrDa hI bola rahA hai| Apake zabda ko 'rikaoNrDa' mAnoge aura sAmanevAle ke zabda ko bhI 'rikaoNrDa'
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________________ (40) vANI kA svarUpa 317 318 AptavANI-4 mAnoge taba hala aaegaa| isa jagat ko jItane kA dUsarA koI upAya nahIM hai| rikaoNrDa kahA, taba phira nirdoSa ho gae! ___ ajJAna dazA meM aisA lagatA hai ki 'yaha mujhe aisA kahatA rahatA hai, vaha mujhase kisa taraha sahana hogA?' taba taka roga kama nahIM hotaa| hameM sahana karanA hI nahIM hai| mAtra samajha lene kI z2arUrata hai ki yaha rikaoNrDa hai| yadi Apa vANI ko rikaoNrDa-svarUpa nahIM mAnoge to ApakI vANI vaisI hI niklegii| isalie kArya-kAraNa, kArya-kAraNa calatA hI rhegaa| vANI to pUrA tharmAmITara hai| yaha vijJAna aisA hai ki niveDA lA detA hai| koI hameM jhir3ake, hama para ha~se to hama bhI ha~sane lageM, hama jAnate haiM ki yaha rikaoNrDa aisI baja rahI hai| sAmanevAlA bolegA kisa taraha? vahI laTU hai, phir| isa becAre para to dayA rakhane jaisI hai! praznakartA : itanA usa samaya lakSya meM nahIM rahatA hai| dAdAzrI : pahale to 'vANI rikaoNrDa hai' aisA pakkA kro| vANI rikaoNrDa hai, rikaoNrDa hai, rikaoNrDa hai.... 'sthUla saMyoga, sUkSma saMyoga aura vANI ke saMyoga para haiM aura parAdhIna hai|' vANI bolanevAle ke hAtha meM bhI nahIM hai aura sunanevAle ke hAtha meM bhI nahIM hai| vANI ke saMyoga para haiM aura parAdhIna haiN| aisI ur3atI huI AtazabAjiyoM meM kauna hAtha DAle? kisI bhI bAta do miniTa se adhika khiMce to vahA~ se bhagavAna cale jAte haiM ! bAta ulajhI kI bhagavAna cale jAte haiN| bAtacIta karane meM harja nahIM hai, parantu use pakar3anA nahIM caahie| pakar3A to phira bojhA bar3ha jAtA hai| vANI, vaha ahaMkAra kA svarUpa vANI mAtra khulA ahaMkAra hai| jo bolate haiM, jitanA bolate haiM, vaha sabhI khulA ahaMkAra hai| sirpha 'jJAnI puruSa' jo syAdavAda vANI bolate haiM, usa samaya unakA ahaMkAra nahIM hotaa| parantu ve jaba dUsarA kucha bolate haiM to unakA bhI ahaMkAra hI nikalatA hai| use nikalatA huA ahaMkAra, DiscArja ahaMkAra kahA hai| praznakartA : arthAt binA ahaMkAra kI vANI nikalatI hai na? dAdAzrI : vaha nirjIva ahaMkAra kahalAtA hai| vANI meM sajIva ahaMkAra ho, to vaha vANI sAmanevAle ko coTa phuNcaaegii| hamArI vANI nirmamatva aura niahaMkArI hotI hai, isalie sabhI ko AnaMda AtA hai| vANI para se kitane parimANa meM aura kaisA ahaMkAra cArja huA thA vaha patA calatA hai| binA syAdavAda ke jitane bola haiM, vaha saba ahaMkAra hI hai| AcaraNa meM yoM to bahuta ahaMkAra nahIM dikhatA hai| vaha to kabhI vivAha meM gae hoM, taba chAtI phUla jAtI hai, tabhI dikhatA hai| _ 'maiM kaisA bolA' vaha vANI kA parigraha hai| maiM bola rahA hU~', vaha jo bhAna hai, usase nayA bIja DalatA hai| praznakartA : sAhajika vANI arthAt kyA? dAdAzrI : jisameM kiMcit mAtra ahaMkAra nahIM hai vh| isa vANI kA eka sekanDa ke lie bhI maiM mAlika nahIM banatA hai. isalie hamArI vANI sAhajika vANI hai| AtmA sacarAcara hai| sacara meM tIna cara haiN| AcAra, vicAra aura uccaar| ye tIna yadi normeliTI meM hoM to harja nahIM hai| ye tIna normeliTI meM hoM to manuSya kI sugaMdha AtI hI hai| manuSya kI sabase bar3I parIkSA kauna-sI? usake AcAra para se parIkSA mata krnaa| usake vicAra para se parIkSA mata krnaa| usakI vANI para se parIkSA karanA! vItarAga vANI ke binA, nahIM koI upAya bhagavAna se kisIne pUchA, 'mokSa jAne kA sAdhana kyA hai?' taba unhoMne kahA ki, 'vItarAga vANI ke binA aura koI upAya nahIM hai|' vaha vANI siddha vANI kahalAtI hai, sAmanevAle meM uga nikalatI hai| praznakartA : vItarAga vANI kA pramANa kyA hai?
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________________ (40) vANI kA svarUpa dAdAzrI : vItarAga vANI arthAt hara eka kA AtmA kabUla karatA hI hai, hara eka dharma ke loga use kabUla karate hI haiN| sirpha koI Ter3hA ho, vahI kabUla nahIM krtaa| vItarAga vANI AtmaraMjana karavAnevAlI hotI hai, dUsarI sabhI vANiyA~ manoraMjana karavAtI haiN| vItarAga vANI sunate hI bilkula naI hI lagatI hai, apUrva lagatI hai| apUrva arthAt pUrva meM kabhI bhI sunI nahIM ho, par3hI nahIM ho, vaisI bAta hotI hai| vItarAga ke vacana kise kahate haiM ki jise vAdI-prativAdI donoM qabUla kreN| prativAdI bhI qabUla kare ki, 'bAta sahI hai, para hameM yaha bAta pusAtI nahIM / ' vANI kA rikaoNrDiMga 319 praznakartA : Apa kahate haiM ki yaha maiM nahIM bolatA hU~, parantu TeparikaoNrDa bola rahA hai, to vaha kisa taraha, vaha samajhAie / dAdAzrI : usake guNadharma para se| isameM AtmA ke guNadharma nahIM haiN| pudgala ke bhI guNadharma nahIM haiN| vaha pudgala kI avasthA hai| vANI kI preraNA se Tepa hotI hai| ahaMkAra khuda use Tepa nahIM krtaa| mAtra usakI preraNA se Tepa hotA hai| aMdara ahaMkAra preraNA detA hai, korTa meM aise bolanA hai, vaise bolanA hai, usake bAda vaisI hI rikaoNrDa bajatI hai| praznakartA : ApakI vANI kaba Tepa huI hogI? dAdAzrI : pichale janma meM Tepa huI thI, vaha isa janma meM bolI jA rahI hai| praznakartA: vANI, vaha sUkSma meM se sthUla huA, vaha hai ? dAdAzrI : hA~, sUkSma meM se sthUla huA hai| praznakartA: zurUAta meM sUkSma kahA~ se khar3A huA? dAdAzrI : vaha to usa sthUla meM se vApisa sUkSma utpanna hotA hai| sthUla ho usameM rAga-dveSa hone se vApisa phira nayA sUkSma utpanna hotA hai| yadi eka hI janma vItarAga rahA to khatma ho gayA sabakucha ! parantu vApisa phira bIja DAlatA hI rahatA hai| AptavANI-4 praznakartA: Apa jo bolate haiM, usa bhASA ko samAdhi bhASA nahIM kaha sakate ? 320 dAdAzrI : Apako samAdhi bhASA kahanA ho to samAdhi bhASA kaho, syAdavAda kahanA ho to syAdavAda hai| hamArI bhASA kisIko bhI duHkhadAyI nahIM hotI, sukhadAyI ho jAtI hai hara eka ke lie| yaha vANI hamArI mAlikI kI hai hI nhiiN| ahaMkAra saMpUrNa zUnya ho jAe, taba rikaoNrDa zuddha ho jAtI hai| hameM jJAna ho jAne ke bAda hamArI rikaoNrDa zuddha ho gii| praznakartA : vANI rikaoNrDa hai, aisA koI kaba kaha sakatA hai? dAdAzrI : jaba mu~ha para bhAvAbhAva nahIM dikheM, taba vANI kA mAlikIpana chUTa gayA aura vahIM para apanA 'enDa' AtA hai ! vANI kA 'cArja poinTa' praznakartA : ye sArI DiscArja Tepa hai, to naI Tepa kisa taraha se banAe~? dAdAzrI : ye sArI bAteM karate ho, usake pIche-pIche naI Tepa banatI rahatI hai| vaha bhAva se Tepa hotI hai| jaisA 'hamArA' bhAva ho, usa anusAra Tepa ho jAtA hai| merA bhAva bolane meM kaisA hai? 'mujhe ApakA apamAna karanA hai' to vaisA Tepa ho jAegA, 'mAna denA hai aura prema se baratAva karanA hai' to vaisA Tepa ho jaaegaa| arthAt bhAva para se Tepa ho jAtA hai| praznakartA: bhAva DAleM, taba nayA taiyAra hotA hai ? dAdAzrI : hA~ aura kyA, bhAva DaleM taba nayA Tepa hotA hai| phira badalane jAe~ to kucha nahIM hogaa| yaha vANI, pudgala kA dharma nahIM hai, yaha aupacArika vastu hai| yAnI pichale janma ke jo bhAva haiM, gata bhAva haiM, ve abhI bhItara udaya meM Ate haiM aura usI anusAra turanta hI Tepa ho jAtA haiM aura zabda nikalate haiN| yaha kAma bahuta spIDI ho jAtA hai| yaha Azcarya hai! yaha vANI nikalatI hai, usameM mUla bhAva nahIM haiM, gata bhAva haiN| gata bhAva
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________________ (40) vANI kA svarUpa 321 322 AptavANI-4 DiscArja bhAva haiM aura usake AdhAra para vANI nikalatI hai| isalie vANI, vaha DiscArja kA bhI DiscArja hai| aura mana, vaha pyora DiscArja hai| DiscArja bhAva arthAt nirjIva bhaav| praznakartA : vANI kI mUla Tepa kisa taraha se banI? dAdAzrI : AtmA ko paramANuoM ke saMyoga mila jAte haiM aura vahA~ cArja ho jAtA hai| AtmA kI hAz2irI meM bhAvAbhAva ke spaMdana hote haiM, usameM igoiz2ama mila jAe, taba vaha spaMdana Tepa ho jAtA hai| vANI kA aisA hai ki vaha do vyU poinTa 'eTa e TAima' nahIM batA sktii| isalie vyakta karane ke lie dUsarA vAkya dUsarI bAra bolanA hI par3atA hai| 'darzana' meM eTa e TAima samagra prakAra se dekhA jA sakatA hai, parantu usakA varNana karanA ho to koI bhI vyakti eTa e TAima vyakta nahIM kara sktaa| isalie vANI syAdavAda kahalAtI hai| maMtra bolanA sthUla hai| sthUla kA phAyadA milatA hai, parantu phira sUkSma meM jAnA caahie|'daadaa bhagavAna ko namaskAra karatA haiM' aisA bolane ke bAda 'dAdA' dikhane cAhie, phoTo ke binA bhI 'dAdA' dikhane caahie| phira sUkSmatama meM jAnA cAhie aura sUkSmatama meM to turanta phala mile, aisA hai! jahA~ prakaTa dIpaka, vahIM kAma hotA hai AtmajJAna jAnA jA sake vaisA nahIM hai| vaha to pUrva kA bahuta kucha karatekarate AyA ho to prakaTa hotA hai, yA phira kisI 'jJAnI puruSa' ke pAsa se svayaM ko prakaTa ho jAtA hai! varnA to AtmajJAna jAnA jA sake aisI vastu nahIM hai| sAre zAstra jAna le, parantu usase AtmA nahIM jAnA jA sktaa| kitane hI zAstra maukhika hote haiM parantu usase AtmA kA patA nahIM calatA, use patA cale to zabdoM se patA calatA hai| vaha kaisA hotA hai? ki 'AtmA aisA hai, aisA hai', aisA rahatA hai| are, tU aisA kaha na ki 'maiM aisA hU~, maiM aisA hU~!' taba vaha kahatA hai ki, 'nahIM, vaisA majhase kaise kahA jA sakatA hai?' arthAt jo 'usa' rUpa ho cukA ho vahI bola sakatA hai ki, 'maiM anaMta jJAnavAlA hU~, anaMta darzanavAlA hU~, anaMta zaktivAlA huuN|' Apa aisA bolate ho yA nahIM bolate? praznakartA : hA~, bolate haiN| dAdAzrI : kyoMki Apa 'usa' rUpa ho cuke ho| praznakartA : parantu dAdA, AtmA kI pahacAna to jisane pahacAnA ho ve hI karavA sakate haiM na? dUsarA koI nahIM karavA sakatA na? dAdAzrI : isalie kahA hai na ki AtmajJAnI ko dehadhArI paramAtmA ke rUpa meM jaan| pUrva ke jJAnI kaha gae haiM ki 'jJAnI puruSa' dehadhArI rUpa meM paramAtmA haiM, isalie vahA~ para kAma nikAla lenaa| 'jJAnI puruSa' ke aMdara hI AtmA prakaTa huA hai, jo jAnane jaisA hai| tujhe AtmA jAnanA ho to 'jJAnI puruSa' ke pAsa jaa| dUsarA koI bhI zAstra kA yA pustakoM kA AtmA nahIM clegaa| pustaka ke aMdara kenDala kA citra banAyA ho, vaha dikhatA z2arUra hai ki kenDala aisA hotA hai, parantu usase ujAlA nahIM hotaa| usase kucha hotA nahIM hai| AtmA jAnane ke lie to pratyakSa 'jJAnI puruSa' se bheMTa honI cAhie, tabhI 'kAma' hotA hai| jaya saccidAnaMda AtmA nahIM jAnane se yaha saba jagata nimna stara para calA gayA hai| yaha calatA-phiratA dikhatA hai, usameM aisA mAnate haiM ki AtmA ke binA kucha bhI nahIM cala sktaa| parantu jise ve cetana kahate haiM, vaha cetana nahIM hotA hai| hama use 'nizcetana-cetana' kahate haiN| vaha saccA cetana nahIM hai, DiscArja cetana hai, cAbI bharA huA cetana hai| vAstavika cetana to aMdara hai, jo niraMtara sthira hai aura acara hai aura nizcetana cetana to sacara hai| isalie isa jagat ko sacarAcara kahA hai| jo vinAza honevAlA hai vaha sacara aura jo niraMtara hai vaha acr| isalie tamAma zAstroM meM likhA hai ki AtmajJAna jAno, parantu
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________________ pudgala : jo pUraNa aura galana hotA hai potAparyu : maiM hU~ aura merA hai, aisA AropaNa, merApana bhogavaTo : sukha-duHkha kA asara rAjIpA : gurajanoM kI khuzI lAgaNI : bhAvukatAvAlA prema, lagAva silaka : jamApU~jI zAtA-azAtA : deha kA sukha pariNAma-deha kA duHkha pariNAma) : sampradAya kA eka varga saMvara : karma kA cArja honA baMda ho jAnA Azrava : karma ke udaya kI zuruAta nirjarA : karma kA asta honA akAma nirjarA : nae karma kA baMdhana hokara purAne karma kA asta honA saMvarapUrvaka nirjarA : dubArA karma bIja Dale binA karmaphala pUrA honA gaccha AptavANI meM rakhe gae gujarAtI zabdoM ke hindI samAnArthI zabda aTakaNa : jo baMdhanarUpa ho jAe, Age nahIM bar3hane de ajaMpA : becainI, azAMti, ghabarAhaTa aNahakka : binA haqa kA ArA : kAlacakra kA bArahavA~ hissA abaMdha : baMdhana rahita 'oNna' kA vyApAra : mUla qImata se jyAdA meM becanA upAdhi : bAhara se AnevAle du:kha upalaka : satahI, Upara Upara se, suparaphluasa, nATakIya, aupacArika UparI : baoNsa, variSTha mAlika kalpa : kAlacakra kar3hApA : kur3hana, kleza goThavaNI : seTiMga, prabaMdha, vyavasthA ghaTamALa : zrRMkhalA yA cakra ghemarAjI(vAlA) : atyaMta ghamaMDI, jo khuda apane sAmane auroM ko bilkula tuccha mAne cIkaNI phAila : gAr3ha RNAnubaMdhavAle vyakti covihAra :: sUryAsta se pahale bhojana karanA tAyafA : phajItA taMtIlI vANI : vivAdavAlI, tIkhI, cubhanevAlI vANI tarachor3a : tiraskAra sahita dutkAranA dubhanA : Ahata honA noMdha : atyaMta rAga athavA dveSa sahita lambe samaya taka yAda rakhanA, noTa karanA nikAla : nipaTArA niyANAM : apanA sArA puNya lagAkara kisI eka vastu kI kAmanA karanA
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________________ zuddhAtmA ke prati prArthanA (pratidina eka bAra boleM) he aMtaryAmI paramAtmA! Apa pratyeka jIvamAtra meM birAjamAna ho, vaise hI majha meM bhI birAjamAna ho| ApakA svarUpa hI merA svarUpa hai| merA svarUpa zuddhAtmA hai| he zuddhAtmA bhagavAna ! maiM Apako abheda bhAva se atyaMta bhaktipUrvaka namaskAra karatA huuN| ajJAnatAvaza maiMne jo jo ** doSa kiye haiM, una sabhI doSoM ko Apake samakSa jAhira karatA huuN| unakA hRdayapUrvaka bahuta pazcAtApa karatA hU~ aura Apase kSamA yAcanA karatA huuN| he prabhu ! mujhe kSamA karo, kSamA karo, kSamA karo aura phira se aise doSa nahIM karU~, aisI Apa mujhe zakti do, zakti do, zakti do| he zuddhAtmA bhagavAna ! Apa aisI kRpA karo ki hameM bhedabhAva chUTa jAye aura abheda svarUpa prApta ho| hama Apa meM abheda svarUpa se tanmayAkAra rheN| ** jo jo doSa hue hoM, ve mana meM z2Ahira kreN| pratikramaNa vidhi prAptisthAna dAdA bhagavAna parivAra aDAlaja : trimaMdira saMkula, sImaMdhara siTI, ahamadAbAda-kalola hAIve, posTa : aDAlaja, jilA : gAMdhInagara, gujarAta - 382421. phona : (079) 39830100, email : info@dadabhagwan.org ahamadAbAda : dAdA darzana, 5, mamatApArka sosAiTI, navagujarAta kaoNleja ke pIche, usmAnapurA, ahamadAbAda-380014. phona : (079)27540408, 27543979 rAjakoTa : trimaMdira, ahamadAbAda-rAjakoTa hAIve, taraghar3iyA cokar3I, posTa : mAliyAsaNa, jilA : rAjakoTa. phona : 9924343478 bhuja : trimaMdira, hila gArDana ke pIche, sahayoganagara ke pAsa, eyaraporTa roDa, bhuja (kaccha), gujarAta. saMparka : 02832 236666 muMbaI : 9323528901 puNe : 9822037740 vaDodarA : (0265)2414142 beMgalUra : 9341948509 kolakatA : 033-32933885 U.S.A. : Dada Bhagwan Vignan Institue : Dr. Bachu Amin, 100, SW Redbud Lane, Topeka, Kansas 66606. Tel : 785-271-0869, E-mail: bamin@cox.net Dr. Shirish Patel,2659,Raven Circle, Corona,CA92882, Tel. : 951-734-4715, E-mail : shirishpatel@sbcglobal.net U.K. : Dada Centre, 236, Kingsbury Road, (Above Kingsbury Printers), Kingsbury, London, NW9 OBH, Tel. :07956476253, E-mail: dadabhagwan_uk@yahoo.com Canada : Dinesh Patel, 4, Halesia Drive, Etobicock, Toronto.M9W6B7. Tel.:4166753543 E-mail:ashadinsha@yahoo.ca Canada : +1416-675-3543 Australia : +61421127947 Dubai : +971506754832 Singapore : +6581129229 Website : www.dadabhagwan.org, www.dadashri.org pratyakSa dAdA bhagavAna kI sAkSI meM, dehadhArI (jisake prati doSa huA ho, usa vyakti kA nAma) ke mana-vacana-kAyA ke yoga, bhAvakarma-dravyakarmanokarma se bhinna aise he zuddhAtmA bhagavAna, ApakI sAkSI meM, Aja dina taka mujhase jo jo ** doSa hue haiM, usake lie kSamA mA~gatA huuN| hRdayapUrvaka bahuta pazcAtApa karatA huuN| mujhe kSamA kreN| aura phira se aise doSa kabhI bhI nahIM karU~, aisA dRr3ha nizcaya karatA huuN| usake lie mujhe parama zakti dIjie, zakti dIjie, zakti diijie| ** krodha-mAna-mAyA-lobha, viSaya-vikAra, kaSAya Adi se kisI ko bhI duHkha pahu~cAyA ho, usa doSo ko mana meM yAda kreN|