Aptavani 09

Author(s): Dada Bhagwan
Publisher: Mahavideh Foundation

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pacify him. However there would be no insistence on 'our' part, there is complete vitaragata within. Constant vitaragata (detachment)! There would not be the least bit of pull (bhaav) towards him or repulsion (abhaav) away from him. And then we have to tell 'Dada Bhagwan 'Please grace this man.' Then, to the pure Soul, which is separate from 'Chandulal and
Chandulal's' mind-body-speech, bhaavkarma-dravyakarmanokarma' 'we' request, please shower Your grace on
Chandulal'. I make all these connections. Then I remain vitarag (detached). The other person continues to remain upset and non-communicative (risavu) and I remain straight. This worldly interaction continues. He becomes perplexed for a while and then it all goes away.
Questioner: Then, Dada, is it not true that a man who is apt to resorting to becoming upset and non-communicative (risavu). will automatically stop if he does not get any encouragement for such a behavior?
Dadashri: 'We'never encourage such people, not even a little. Encouragement has a negative effect on such individuals.
Even children will improve if you remain vitarag with them but by encouraging their upset and non-communicative behavior, they will get on the wrong path. You need vitaragata (detached interaction)! Treat them with tender care if they come to you and do not react if they do not. If they come, hug them gently and if they get agitated just leave them alone. Then if they come again, hug them again. You should not concern yourself with the way they are behaving: you simply have to remain vitarag. Whatever they do, you should not be concerned about it and neither should you make a deep mental note (nondha) of it.
Questioner: That is a tremendous thing, Dada.
Dadashri: There should be no deep mental note (nondha) whatsoever. Nondha creates conflicts. Do not make a mental note of anyone. We scold all these people but 'we' never make
any note of it. 'We'would go crazy if I were to make any note at all. 'We got rid of the notebook altogether long ago!
Vitarag and yet meddlesome Questioner: Dada, is there any nishkaran karuna (expectation-free compassion; compassion of the Gnani Purush for us that has no personal gain' agenda behind it) in the eyes of the vitarag?
Dadashri: Yes, just that! What else? This is nothing but compassion without expectation (ultimate compassion)! Our vision is only on his Self (Soul) and not his non-Self complex (pudgal). Nevertheless, 'we' will preserve and promote a worldly relationship with him because he is beneficial to the satsang and therefore 'we' would say, 'welcome, please.' If there are certain people who are beneficial for others, 'we' will make it a point to welcome them and encourage them. That worldly dealing has to be taken care of and nurtured and 'we' would do that. The tirthankara Lords however, would not do such things. They do not meddle whatsoever, do they? And this is nothing but meddling (khatpar) on our part.
Questioner: It is because the meddling part for the world's salvation that still remains in you, that we are able to come to you here.
Dadashri: Yes, that is it. That is why 'we' have halted four' progress towards final liberation. May others attain the salvation that 'we' have acquired and that is why 'we' meddle; 'we' meddle only for this reason. Everything 'we' do is simply so that people too may be blessed. People get to see vitaragata (the detached state) here.
Questioner: So far you mentioned obstinacy in your worldly interaction (vyavahar), where you became upset and non-communicative (risavu) over milk, but what kind of obstinacy is there on the path of moksha?