Book Title: Aptavani 09
Author(s): Dada Bhagwan
Publisher: Mahavideh Foundation

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________________ Aptavani-9 289 290 Aptavani-9 verily himsak-bhaav (violent intent); it is all considered himsa indeed. Deceit (kapat) is a major himsa. Maya here means deceit (kapat). Maya is also used for illusion as well; it is that which veils the Soul (the Self). Anger is overthimsa; it is open violence. Questioner: You said that there is himsak bhaav (violent intent) in kashaya (anger-pride-deceit-greed), so please explain what kind of himsak bhaav is inherent in pride (maan)? Dadashri: Pride itself is himsak bhaav (violent intent). The one with pride does himsa towards others, however, if that other person has any self-interest or feels he may benefit or gain personally, then he will put up with the person who has pride. But how does one generally feel about proud people? Anger is always associated with pride; there is always contempt in it. Pride means contempt (tiraskar)! The aura of 'I am something! leads to contempt (tiraskar) for others. Pride is verily contempt. An abhimaani - a person that has pride with 'my-ness' (mamata), will be even more contemptuous. A man with pride (maani) is different. A person with pride with 'my-ness' (abhimaan) is different. A tundmijaji is different and a ghemraji is different. There are countless phases of pride There are many phases of pride and there are words for each phase of maan. Questioner: Tundmijaji, ghamand, are these some of the phases? Dadashri: Yes. Those are all different words. People have their own understanding and meaning of different words. For example, people have their own understanding of the words garva (doer-ship) and garavata (to wallow in worldly indulgence). Some people even refer to abhimaan (pride with 'my-ness'), as garva. What is the definition of ahamkar (ego). what is abhimaan, what is maan (pride), what is garva and what is tumakhi? Questioner: What is the meaning of khumari? Dadashri: Khumari is a kind of abhimaan - excessive pride. These are different types of abhimaan. Then there is the word ghamandi! A ghamandi is someone who has no substance but will make claims such as 'I can defeat even the lawyer's father! You should realize that he is a ghamandi - a fake show-off. There are all kinds of people with all kinds of baggage. Then a machharayelo is someone whose bite stings like a mosquito. Then people also say, 'that man has a lot of ghemraji.' These are all different phases of pride and that is why they have been given different names. Questioner: But all these different phases of pride such as abhimaan, ghamand etc., do they not manifest after a certain age? A young child does not have any of these kashayas. Dadashri: A child does not have them at all. But as the intellect increases, so do the kashayas and their consequences So the phases of these words are very immense. It is very difficult to understand these phases. You can only know them from a Gnani Purush. Questioner: Please explain them individually. Dadashri: If you call out to a laborer passing by, 'Hey you! What is your name?' he will reply, 'Lalvo'. Now he did not call himself, 'Lallubhai', so you should realize that he has only the ego (ahamkar). ('Lalvo' is a nickname for Lallu and-bhai is a formality like 'Mr.) If we ask another person his name and he says "Lallubhai', you should realize that, he is also a maani (he has an ego as well as pride. He called himself Lallu with 'bhai' attached at the end).

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