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helpless? There is no helplessness where there is the Self. Why not become laghutam instead?
Consequences of guruta Do you have a desire to be laghutam? Questioner: Yes Dadashri: That is very good.
Questioner: They say, 'Prabhuta se prabhu door' meaning God distances himself from the one who wants to become God.
Dadashri: Yes and that is why I have said that I remain liberated and laghutam. Still I enjoy the grandeur of a gurutam state. My appearance and conduct is laghutam. For the world I am the smallest; I am laghutam and for those who want to attain Gnan, I am the greatest, I am gurutam. So, if you want liberation, I am gurutam and there is no one higher than me. And if you want to be great in the worldly life, then I am laghutam. Now if people want liberation and if I do not say I am gurutam, then nothing will be achieved. And what do people want to be in this world?
Questioner: They want to be gurutam. Dadashri: Where did you see that? Questioner: I have seen it in me.
Dadashri: But that is not the case with people outside, is it? Are there any gurutam people out there?
Questioner: Yes
Dadashri: Is that so? Are they all not in gurutam? They all believe this, the relative self, is the atma and we have to make it gurutam.' Everyone has a desire to be gurutam. Everyone wants gurutam. They get the slightest of respect and they are happy and their gurutam increases. They want
liberation and yet they become gurutam. Now is that a contradiction or not? That is a sign for wandering for countless lives because all those who have tried to be gurutam in the worldly life, have fallen. They all became trapped. Tell me, did they get trapped or not? Only those who became laghutam were able to swim (through the ocean of life). This path is not for those who want to be gurutam. Those who try to be gurutam take a beating and in the end become senseless, and create obstacles (antaray) in their path to liberation. Do you understand what I mean by obstacles?
Questioner: How can one get rid of those obstacles (antaray)?
Dadashri: You have to have the bhaav of laghutam - the inner intent of beings small - then the obstacles will all go away. All the obstacles will go away by doing plus-minus. The obstacles arose from the inner intent of wanting to be gurutam and with intent of becoming laghutam, they will all go away.
What do you need gurutam for? What is the advantage of it? The higher one goes the harder he falls. Instead, what is wrong with staying at the bottom? Then there will be no problems! Your bliss will remain with you and when it is time for your liberation, dharmastikaya - the element of motion - will automatically take you there; you do not have to do anything So become laghutam and everything will be resolved. To become laghutam is your absolute state (purnapad). This is my laghutam form and only then can there be a gurutam form. No one has become gurutam without becoming laghutam first.
And where I have become laghutam, people are trying to be gurutam. People want to be guru in the relative world. They try to be guru only of the relative world. Guru means one has an inner intent of I want to become someone big and famous'. Those who try to be laghutam in the relative world
