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'guru' - and there is no other word for this worldly interaction vyavahar, then he should say, 'Yes, I am his guru', but from within he should know that he is laghu.
Therefore everyone in the relative world should try to maintain a state of being small to the smallest. One should not try to be guru - superior.
'Exactness' through laghutam
Questioner: You say, 'I am the most laghutam of atma. There is no superior over me. I am absolutely independent." How can others not remain free in this way? Why is it necessary to follow the agna of a guru?
Dadashri: Everyone is independent indeed! What is the need to abide by a guru's instructions (agna)? One has to remain in the agna of the one within, but the kashayas of angerpride-deceit-greed within continue to beat him up incessantly. So who can become free and independent? The one whose anger-pride-deceit-greed is gone, can be free. Otherwise he cannot be, can he?
And the disciple will follow the guru's agnas if they are acceptable or he will not if they are not. These Agnas (the five Agnas) are not mine. They are one's 'own'. I never scold anyone. I have never scolded anyone to this day. I have told everyone that I am his or her disciple. By the relative viewpoint I am everyone's disciple; I am laghutam and by real viewpoint I am gurutam. Therefore, from the viewpoint of worldly interaction (vyavaharik), there is no one inferior to me; everyone is superior to me. And through the real viewpoint, the viewpoint of the Lord, there is no one superior to me. That is what I am saying. Do you understand? So is everyone not my superior? I am the disciple of everyone.
Questioner: But they come here to you to attain (gnan) from you. How can a guru come to you?
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Dadashri: 'We' have already become laghutam. They have not become laghutam yet, have they?
One will become like me when he becomes laghutam. But Gnan and everything has been given. I have given the kind of Gnan, which alleviates all worries, which abolishes all attachments and abhorrence, even while conducting worldly business. But one cannot attain the state as 'ours' until he becomes laghutam.
Questioner: You refer to everyone as guru, so when will they become disciples? And how will they become disciples?
Dadashri: Now that is the very effort everyone has gradually started of 'I want to be like Dada.' 'We' have only one condition, and that is 'we' do not scold anyone. You just have to observe me and become like me, that is all. (Watch the Gnani and become like him). Become laghutam and only then will 'exactness' come. Therefore, that much work is left.
The world's disciple is the world's superior (upari)
In our Vignan (science), 'Dada' becomes your disciple. I have given Gnan to so many people; I am the disciple of every one of them. I am a disciple of the whole world. Who can become the supreme being of the whole world? The one who has not become a disciple of the whole world cannot be the supreme most. Who can become supreme (upari)? None except the one who has become the disciple of the entire world.
Questioner: Lord Dattatraya adopted good attributes from wherever he could and from whomever he could and it is said that He had twenty-four gurus. Now the scriptures say that one should have only one guru. Please shed some light on this.
Dadashri: One needs to make the whole world his guru. Attain gnan (knowledge) from wherever you can, but what
