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Aptavani-9
Dadashri: Foolishness prevails on the foundation of deceit. When deceit (kapat) leaves foolishness will not remain either
Questioner: What is the nature of that deceit (kapat)? What kind of deceit is that?
Dadashri: It is deceit of all kinds! Deceit means to keep everything hidden from the Self, to veil the Self. All kinds of deceit of taking advantage of someone, to keep one's things secret from others; that is also deceit!
Questioner: So what is one trying to hide all this from?
Dadashri: One employs deceit to hide things about him or his business from others. If he is talking in confidence with a person, and someone enters the room, would he not stop talking?
Questioner: Yes, he would. Dadashri: What can be the reason for that? Questioner: Is that considered deceit? Dadashri: Then what else can you call it? Questioner: So where is guilelessness in this?
Dadashri: Wherever there is kapat (deceit), there is bound to be bhodpan (guilelessness) also on the other side. Kapat would not arise if one does not have this much foolishness. Deceit is a sign of foolishness. Guilelessness exists where deceit exists. And where there is guilelessness, you should take it for granted that deceit is there.
Questioner: You said that our track should not change. Our track has not changed, so what should be our goal of this track?
Dadashri: The goal of moksha; liberation, salvation! What other goal is there? That is the main line!
Questioner: And if the goal changes then what other kind of goal would arise?
Dadashri: One moves very quickly in the opposite direction of moksha; it will take no time! And he would feel. 'I am indeed on the path of liberation.
Questioner: What kind of a mistake remains there?
Dadashri: That verily is this kapat and 'foolishness. Can one not distinguish between what is right and what is wrong after listening to others? Is one not able to differentiate what is correct and what is incorrect?
Questioner: How can one develop understanding of what is correct and what is incorrect?
Dadashri: Such understanding will not come until deceit leaves. When whatever I tell you, begins to 'fit' (is absorbed), then you are on the right track. We know that you will reach the goal once this happens.
Questioner: What are the signs that one is on the right path; on the main line?
Dadashri: Deceit should go away.
Questioner: Please explain more about this deceit (kapat).
Dadashri: Everyone will know for sure there is deceit here and elsewhere. Guilelessness (bhodpan) also exists there. If someone tells him something and if guilelessness exists within him, he will take that information to be true and run with it. If someone were to tell him, 'so and so just died, he will believe it and start crying but he will not stop to inquire who exactly died. Do not take even the words of your own father as the truth because he speaks from his perspective and level of understanding. There is no deceit in that people just say things from the lack of correct understanding
