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adamant and insist. 'You will have to do exactly as I say.' Therefore, there is no problem if fondness for all other things does not go away
Questioner: Is fondness for 'I-ness' the same thing as making others do according to what we want (dharyu karavoo)?
Dadashri: Not like that. Questioner: Then what?
Dadashri: Everyone in the whole world has 'I-ness'! One becomes God when his 'I-ness, his potapanu goes away. The one who has no 'I-ness' is a God. Although I have given Gnan to everyone, all of you still have the 'I-ness. You will become God when that 'I-ness' goes away. You are God at present (from the absolute perspective), but you (the relativeSelf) have not become one because you still have the 'I-ness'. You will become God when you no longer have the 'I-ness. Purusharth should begin with the right intent
The 'I-ness' will leave if there is Gnan, otherwise it will not.
Questioner: But we have all attained Gnan so with Gnan the aapopu- the I-ness' - keeps increasing, because later we realize that the 'I-ness' has increased instead of decreasing
Dadashri: That is not aapopu. This term aapopu is for a very high spiritual level. Just prior to leaving the body, when purity comes in, that is the state free of all kashayas, then the residual 'I-ness' is considered aapopu or potapanu.
Questioner: The 'I-ness' may have gone but even then one often does dakho - he interferes.
Dadashri: But what is the evidence that it has even gone? You are saying that dakho occurs. It does not appear that this 'I-ness' is gone in anyone. There would be no more interference
once it leaves. There will not ever be any interference again. It is not something that increases or decreases. It is a very real thing. One will not see 'I-ness' (potapanu) again once it is gone; it is gone forever. Do you feel as if it is partly gone but it also partly remains? No, it is not like that. This 'l-ness' is not something that it will return, once it leaves. To begin with, this 'I-ness' is something that is not likely to go. In fact, this is the first time this subject about 'departure of I-ness' is even being discussed. 'We do not have any 'I-ness.
Questioner: What happens if one wants to bring back the 'I-ness?
Dadashri: It will not come, will it? How can it return once it is gone?
Questioner: This I-ness' is bound to go away with your Gnan, that is for sure, but how can it go away faster?
Dadashri: Just as we can increase the speed of a train, we can also increase this speed if we employ the right tools (sadhan). But You should look neither for haste nor for laziness here. To do so, is all a form of imagination. All You have to do is to maintain the bhaav - the inner intent that you want to get rid of the 'I-ness. Having this bhaav does so much work that the 'I-ness' will diminish constantly. But if you have the bhaav of, No, there is no need to get rid of the 'I-ness' as long as the worldly life is there, then that will be the case. After attaining Gnan, 'You' have authority and realm over all these inner bhaav. You do not have any authority and realm over everything that is pending for discharge. There You have to let it discharge (nikal) without interference.
Do you understand where Your authority and the realm is? You have the authority and realm over the inner intent of the 'I-ness' has to go. The 'I-ness' is not needed anymore', then that will be the case. For how long can you make something Yours when in fact it is not? Is it not a mistake to make
