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Aptavani-9
Questioner: Yes.
Dadashri: When the hurt inflicted upon any living being stops, then those layers will begin to shed.
Questioner: What layers?
Dadashri: The layers of I-ness and all other coverings over the Self. Not only does one have the 'I-ness' but it is an 'I-ness with an attacking nature. 'I-ness' with protection (rakshan) is different from the 'I-ness' with an attack.
Questioner: This is very important information that has just surfaced, Dada. You said that there are two types of potapanu 'l-ness'; one is with protection and the other is associated with a tendency to attack.
Dadashri: Yes. When the 'I-ness' associated with attacks goes away, then the 'I-ness' with protection will come. That is the proper 'I-ness', until then all the 'I-ness' is regarded as himsak bhaav, violence laden with violent intent. Only after the 'l-ness' associated with attacking nature leaves, will the dissolution of I-ness' associated with protection begin.
Questioner: Would you please explain further what this attacking 'I-ness' is?
Dadashri: What good is any 'I-ness' that hurts others? It is a different matter if that 'I-ness' is for the protection of ones' own prakruti; that is called 'I-ness' but the 'l-ness' that hurts others, cannot even be considered 'I-ness!
What is the 'I-ness' in people like? Protection of their prakruti is definitely there, but they also attack others. They also strike (verbally and non-verbally) others. So do people not need to get rid of this enormous 'I-ness? Protecting one's prakruti is 'I-ness'. Are our mahatmas doing that? Alas, that is precisely why it, the non-Self, does not become sahaj (natural). Here, the moment one is faced with the slightest insult, he protects the prakruti. This indeed will prevent the process of
sahajata (naturalness) from occurring, will it not?
The potapanu with protection may remain, but any other kind of potapanu must leave. If someone says, 'you don't have any sense, there should not be any protection of the prakruti. Who is the sole authority in this? It is the ego (ahamkar). The one that opposes or resists is the ego. Who opposes everything and challenges? It is the ego. But the ego is gone, is it not? So the protection is being done unnecessarily, is it not?
So whatever happens is correct. You will not find such discussion and talks in any scriptures. Talks about protection of the prakruti are not to be found anywhere. Because, who will not protect the prakruti? Everyone, except the Lord, protects his or her prakruti. And You are protecting the prakruri even though it is not Yours, it is an alien. You know that it is an alien and having known that, You are still making arrangements to marry 'her'! Is that not a wonder?
The ego (ahamkar) and 'my-ness' (mamata) are gone, but I-ness' potapanu) remains. Is that not a wonder!
The 'seer' does not have 'I-ness' What do 'we' call 'I-ness' (potapanu)? Questioner: Protection of prakruti is 'I-ness! Dadashri: So should the prakruti be protected?
Questioner: 'We' are the 'seers' (onara); what needs to be done and what needs not to be done.
Dadashri: The 'seer' (onaro) does not have any 'lness' (potapanu). The seer can never have any 'I-ness'. This discussion is for the one who still protects the prakruti.
If you are going somewhere and on the way someone tells you. 'No you have to go the other way,' do you get irritated at that time?
Questioner: Yes.
