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Aptavani-9
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That is how this 'I lawyer Mangaddas' is. So when you took this Gnan, the 'Lawyer' and 'Mangaddas' went away, but the potey - the 'T' still remains. Therefore 'I-ness' (potapanu) still remains for You. When the other lawyer in the court says something wrong, the 'I-ness' (potapanu) in you will express.
If someone comes here to discuss something complex regarding satsang or any other topics, it is fine if the discussion continues for an hour and half. There will be no dakhodakhal (interference and its effects), from 'us'. Elsewhere when that happens, it may even result in mathhed - separation due to difference in opinions. 'We' have no dakhodakhal. A task of one hundred hours will be accomplished by 'us' within an hour! But there will be no dakhodakhal. This is because 'we' do not have any 'I-ness'.
Protection of the prakruti is potapanu
Do you have 'I-ness' or not?
Questioner: It does arise sometimes.
Dadashri: Otherwise what remains? There is constant and continuous awareness (jagruti) in the one who does not have 'I-ness' (potapanu). Whatever unawareness (ajagruti) there is; is all verily I-ness' (potapanu). The 'I-ness' will arise immediately when someone tells you that you have no sense, does it not?
Questioner: It does sometimes.
Dadashri: Does it happen everyday or only sometimes? Tell me when it does not happen. All this is 'I-ness' only. That, which one protects, is potapanu 'I-ness'. To protect this prakruti, the non-Self, is all 'I-ness'. The loss of ownership of the prakruti (the belief of I am Chandulal') has been established through conviction (pratiti, shraddha - the belief of 'I am the pure Soul'), but still the 'I-ness' (potapanu) does not leave, does it?
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Questioner: 'I-ness' is bound to be there as long as 'I am correct' remains, is it not?
Dadashri: There is no such thing as right or wrong. There is no problem with the 'I-ness' of that kind. There are many other types of I-ness'. One gets upset at the slightest comment. That is protection of the prakruti. Not only does one protect the prakruti but he turns things around by employing deceit (kapat). In that situation, the 'I-ness' is doubled. To vehemently protect one's self, is all potapanu. Not only do they protect themselves, but they do it artfully and then dodge away. The artful dodging is deceit.
Did you understand the meaning of I-ness; the potapanu? One still continues to protect the non-Self, and that protection is attained through artfulness and deceit (kada and kapat).
Questioner: To protect one's prakruti is considered 'Iness', so when does that turn into deceit?
Dadashri: All the 'I-ness' goes into protecting the prakruti the non-Self. The 'I-ness' without kapat (deceitfulness) is better; it is softer, but the other is bad.
Questioner: You have said that protection of prakruti is 'T-ness' and to protect through artfulness and deceit is double the 'I-ness'.
Dadashri: Yes, that is double the 'I-ness'. Even children protect themselves, but there is no deceit in it.
Questioner: When a person knows that he has protected his prakruti artfully and deceitfully, what is that?
Dadashri: He will recognize it if the deceit kapat is thin but he will not if it is heavy and dense.
Aggression is intense potapanu
Do you have a desire to get rid of the 'I-ness' (potapanu)?
