Book Title: Aptavani 09
Author(s): Dada Bhagwan
Publisher: Mahavideh Foundation

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________________ Aptavani-9 323 324 Aptavani-9 satisfied. We can see that the man has changed: there has been an 'effect' on him of some kind. So we say to him, 'Come in, come and have some tea.' We offer him tea, not for his air of superiority but to inquire into his changed disposition. He believes we are offering him tea because of his superior stand. We give him tea and ask him, 'Where did you go?' He will reply smugly, 'I needed to collect the five thousand rupees from him, now I have them.' He gets five thousand rupees in his pocket and he becomes self satisfied (unmattata). He now has the disease of swelling with prideunmattata. So the eggplant' becomes 'tight', otherwise the feggplant' becomes limp. Now if a person has unmattata with just five thousand rupees, then as far as the Gnani Purush is concerned, the Lord of three worlds is pleased with Him. So tell me, how much unmattata' will He be in? And yet there is none. Is that not a wonder? But no, that is precisely where true laghuta - smaller than the smallest, lies. 'We are like a little child. ...no potapanu ('1-ness' and 'my-ness') Then what is the third sentence Shrimad Rajchandra writes? Questioner: There is no potapanu (no sense of 'I-ness' and 'my-ness) Dadashri: Potapanu means 'I am this and this is mine.' What does 'no potapanu' mean? This body is not mine. This body verily is not mine, so all that belongs to the body is not mine. This mind imun) is not mine. This speech is not mine. This speech that is being spoken is not my speech. This is the original taped record that is speaking. He (Ambalal) is the speaker (vakta). You are the listener (shrota) 'I am the knower-seer (gnata-drashta). This is the interaction (vyavahar) of these three. 'We are not the owner of the speech. 'We' are not the owner of the body. 'We are not the owner of the mind. The sweetness of doer-ship (garva meethash) is the cause of worldly life Questioner: What is garva? Is there a difference between garva and abhimaan (pride with 'my-ness')? Dadashri: What happens when you place garva and abhimaan on the opposite sides of the scale? Do they weigh the same? Abhimaan will be a quarter of a pound and garva will be forty pounds. Questioner: How is that, can you please explain that? Dadashri: People do not understand abhimaan or garva. Abhimaan is different, garva is different and ahamkar is different. Questioner: So does garva mean 'I-ness' (hoonpad)? Dadashri: No, the 'I-ness' (hoonpad) is ego. 'I am Chandulal' is ego. At times you may or may not have abhimaan, you may not even have garva. Hoonpad (I-ness) is to believe to be where you are not. Those who are not in the swapad (the Self), are in the hoonpad. But what is garvaras? Garvaras is very sticky. Abhimaan is mild and docile in comparison. It is very light, whereas garva is very heavy Questioner: Can you explain garvaras with an example? Dadashri: In abhimaan one does not have the sense 'I am the doer of all this. 'In garvaras he believes 'I am the doer'. So being the doer in one thing, he also believes he is the doer in the entire universe. So garvaras extends very far and wide. Does anyone do garva? There is garva in everything. The sense of, 'I am doing' is all garva. When the awareness of 'I am doing' went away for

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