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Aptavani-9
Questioner: It is wrong to take garva, is it not?
Dadashri: The worldly life is based on garva (doership). The seed for the worldly life is garva, not ego.
Questioner: How is garva a seed?
Dadashri: There is no sweetness in the ego (ahamkar). The ego offers no enjoyment but garvaras (doer-ship), is very sweet! Pride and abhimaan have some sweetness also but not as much as garvaras. There is nothing as tasteful as garvaras. Only 'Science' will liberate you from garva
So we are not the real doers, some other entity is the doer. One makes false claims of doer-ship (arop): he makes the aropit bhaav of 'I am doing this.' Then he gets to taste the juice of doer-ship (garvaras), which tastes very sweet, and that binds karma. You bind karma the moment you take false pride and taste the sweetness of doing something,
However, one can be liberated if he knows the reality exactly as it is, that is if he knows that he is not the doer but vyavasthit is. One should have such a science (Vignan) within. Then there will be absolutely no attachment (raag) or abhorrence (dwesh), will there? He will be able to realize through this Vignan 'I am not this (the body). All this knowledge that I am talking of is not my Vignan (science); it is the Vignan of the Vitarags, the Vignan of the twenty-four tirthankaras. How can one attain the Self without this Vitarag Vignan and see it as it is?
Questioner: According to your "theory, it is vyavasthit that runs everything nevertheless garvaras continues to occur within, does it not?
Dadashri: No, garva will not occur. Garva only occurs, as long as you have decided, 'I am Chandulal'. There is garva as long as this wrong belief exists. Once this wrong belief leaves, garva will not remain.
Questioner: But that wrong belief does not go away that easily does it?
Dadashri: The wrong belief does go away for sure. 'We'remove it for you. There are many people whose wrong belief has gone and there is not just one wrong belief; 'I am his brother, his uncle, etc' there are so many such wrong beliefs.
Questioner: But that wrong belief does not go away until You make us realize the Self (swaroop), does it?
Dadashri: No, it will not. That awareness (bhan) has to be attained. The awareness 'I am not Chandulal, Chandulal is just for the worldly drama,'has to occur. Then saiyam (the state without kashaya) will prevail within. One will not taste garvaras when inner saiyam prevails, he will not take delight in the sweetness of the juice of doer-ship. So much bliss of saiyam arises that one has no need to taste garvaras. One takes garvaras because he has no inner bliss. When such bliss is not there, there is at least the sweetness of garvaras.
The Gnani has no garva (doer-ship)
Indulging in garvaras will continue to increase keyf (intoxication) of ego. Then one becomes very intoxicated. How will this key come down? How will the intoxication of the illusion (moha) that has risen come down? In life, the profits that come are mandatory (farajiyat) and so are the losses. But when a person makes a profit, he claims, I earned it.' And when he incurs a loss, he says, 'God did it' or 'my stars are not favorable.
One wants to taste the sweetness of the garvaras and that is the cause of the worldly life. The worldly life is not perpetuated by drinking alcohol, smoking cigarettes or drinking tea. It is this garvaras that perpetuates the worldly life. Garvaras is the only thing that no one likes to get rid of.
