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Dadashri: It is not to hurt anyone. He wants to enjoy and keep on tasting doer-ship (garvaras) in it. There is no substance in whatever he does when he enjoys the greatest garvaras of, 'I know it, I understand it'. Anything is done with the foundation of this assumption has no substance. It is not worth mentioning. Do not expose it too much. I expose it to some extent and it looks bad. As long as one harbors the belief, 'I know', his face will never look fresh.
Questioner: But how can that be attained without the
ego?
Dadashri: What kind of ego does one need to maintain? The ego one needs to maintain is where anything is done, it is done with the ego of, I do not know anything'. Such an ego will give benefits, otherwise how can it? Otherwise it will only serve to increase the 'poison', the poison within will keep increasing for sure. If someone who knows all the four Vedas comes and tells me, 'I know all that', then I will tell him in just one sentence, 'you have not known even a drop worth!' The definition of knowing is that where one does not need to say anything.
Questioner: Can a person attain the goal if his ego is saatvik i.e. if the ego is good and worthy?
Dadashri: It is difficult to maintain a saatvik ego. It is very difficult to define such an ego. Saatvik ego, worthy ego is that which maintains, 'I do not know anything".
Questioner: It is that which happens spontaneously and
naturally.
Dadashri: No, it is simply the ego of 'I do not know anything. Therefore everyone is searching in vain. The whole world is searching in vain. It is not possible to find even a single word of truth. This truth is not such that it can be discovered. The truth people have found is temporary truth; it is truth that will perish.
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Nothing can be achieved without realizing the Self. Until then one has to keep wandering. This is because the Self cannot be found in books. Where can you find it? The Soul can be attained only from a Gnani but Gnanis are very rarely around. That is why Krupadudev has said, 'it (to find a Gnani) is rare, rare, rare, rare.' Gnani is never to be found. Where will you find one?
The seer and the knower is not involved in tasting garvaras
Questioner: What is a compliment (swaprashansa) and what is garva? And what is the cause behind tasting garva? What is the solution for avoiding it?
Dadashri: Compliment is when someone says, 'you are a very nice and likable person. It is hard to find a man like you.' When someone says this to him, he will forget everything and all day long he will do everything that person asks him.
And garva means to claim 'I did such a great job! I did it so well. He enjoys the sweetness from saying, 'how wonderful a job' about a task he accomplishes.
What is the reason behind wanting to enjoy garvaras? It is the ego. There is ego behind it; the ego of 'I am something".
And what is the solution for avoiding and overcoming it? After attaining this Gnan, all that has been done away with. Now whatever remains is in the form of discharge. 'You' have to remain separate from all 'that'.
Questioner: Dada how can we maintain awareness; how can we remain jagrut during the discharge (discharging effects of karma)?
Dadashri: 'You' just have to 'see' whatever 'Chandulal' does. You have to 'see' even when 'Chandulal' is taking garvaras and also continue 'seeing' him when he feels pleased when someone gives him a compliment.
