________________
Aptavani-9
349
350
Aptavani-9
Questioner: It means smallest of the small but can we call it the best of all?
Dadashri: No, not the best. Laghutam! It is not the best from this perspective. Laghu means small. Laghutam means the smallest: there is no living being (iva) smaller than the one who is laghutam. That is the definition of laghutam.
Questioner: Is it the same as when people say, 'I am dasanudas - I am the servant of servants' - the humble most?
Dadashri: No. People have reached a state of being a servant of servants (dasanudas) but no one has reached the state of laghutam. Whereas I am in a laghutam state and that is why people will attain salvation. In the worldly sense, from the relative perspective, I am laghutam and in nischaya - from the real or absolute perspective, I am gurutam. I am nobody's guru. I consider the whole world as being my guru. I consider you all, my guru. If I am sitting on the floor here, someone will ask, 'Why are you sitting here?' People will not let me sit on the floor. They will make me get up and sit higher up. Otherwise, I prefer sitting down on the floor. Therefore, I am not in a state of being a superior (gurupad), I am laghutam.
Laghutam must be your intent
So I am not your superior. You are my superior. I have never thought myself as being superior, so you do not have a problem do you? You will be afraid of me only if I was superior to you, you may feel 'He is a big man, what will he say?' You may scold me but I will not scold you. If I scold you then it means I am in the wrong place. And if you scold me, it is because of a misunderstanding on your part. You do it because there is weakness in you, is that not so? Otherwise, the whole world is my superior because I am laghutam. How many superiors do you have? Why don't you say something?
Questioner: I am not ready to accept laghutam.
Dadashri: Why? Is it not possible? It is like this, gurutam means to climb higher. When you have to climb a mountain, does it take more effort to climb up or down?
Questioner: To climb up.
Dadashri: So laghutam means to come down; that can be done very effortlessly, can't it? 'We' did it very easily. So always, have an inner intent of laghutam. The more the inner intent (bhaav) of laghutam you have the greater will be your progress towards gurutam - the Self. And you attain a state of gurutam only when you become laghutam in the relative life God is very pleased with the one without
mamata That is why in the worldly interactions (vyavahar) I am laghutam and in nischaya - in the realm of the Self I am actually gurutam. I do not have any superiors. Even God, the fully enlightened One, is very pleased with me. Then what else remains for me?
People tell me, 'You call yourself 'Dada Bhagwan'?' I tell them, 'No Why would I do that? When God, the fully enlightened One within, is pleased with me, then why would I have a need to be called Bhagwan (God)? The 'ruler' of the fourteen worlds has become pleased with me and your ruler' within you too, will be pleased with you if you do what I tell you. It is better to have the Lord within be pleased with you. What will anyone gain from being a God? Let him be the God, whoever he is. The ruler of the fourteen worlds has become pleased with me and I am showing you the way in which you too can attain the same.
There is great danger in being a God and I would invite tremendous liability on my head. What do you have to lose? Why would I get into that? Why would I want to do that? God has become very pleased with me, what is wrong in that?
