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Questioner: Does that hum' ever go away, is there any solution for it?
Dadashri: There is no solution for it. He will go to a lower life form and take continuous beating there. That is where the 'hum' will be crushed.
When does 'hum' sprout? It starts when he becomes bankrupt everywhere. What then does he live on? Then comes this hum of 'my Grandfather was so and so... Thus begins the hum.
Hum- 'I am something great' is born when there is nothing there. Whereas the condition that gave rise to the ego is still there. Now, when does the ego go down? It goes down when a thug mugs him and takes away his clothes, that is when his ego will go away!
Questioner: Is this discussion for those who are not Selfrealized?
Dadashri: It is for the one who is not Self-realized. In Gnan, there is no ego. The ego does not decrease or leave in the one who has ego (those who are not Self-realized). Such a person will encounter people who will increase his ego. The ego will decrease from incidents such as if someone were to rob him or beat him up or even if he incurs a loss of 1.5 million rupees when his income is only a million rupees.
Questioner: But then the ego will go in another corner, will it not?
(ahamkar), pride (maan) and pride with 'my-ness' (abhimaan)?
Dadashri: The extended form of ego is called pride (maan) and if it is associated with 'my-ness' (mamata), then it is called abhimaan. When there is even the slightest of mamata, one will say things like, 'this is my car.' Why does a person show people his car? It is because of his abhimaan. If he has good-looking children, he will say, 'Wait till I show you my four children.' That is mamata and abhimaan. So where there is abhimaan he will keep showing you such things. And pride (maan) is an extended form of the ego.
Questioner: Is abhimaan born out of maan?
Dadashri: No. When is abhimaan born? It is born when 'myness' (mamata) is present.
Ego (ahamkar) is a different state and abhimaan is a different state. People have no awareness of this whatsoever and yet they go around using inappropriate words, they say whatever comes to their mind. They will say, 'He is an abhimaani man, he is ahamkari man.' Every human being is ahamkari; there is not a single person who is not. Only the Gnani and his followers are not ahamkari, everyone else is.
What is ego (ahamkar)? It is to claim to be something you are not. One does not know who he really is and he claims to be what he is not. That is ego. So to whom does this statement apply? It applies to everyone; everyone is considered ahamkari. Ego implies independence. It does not depend on any other thing. What is his belief? He believes to be what he is not. The 'T' (the real Self) is not Chandulal but he believes 'I am Chandulal' and that is ego (ahamkar)! Therefore, if one is 'Shuddhatma (the pure soul)', then there is no ego. There is ego in 'I am Chandulal'. Then, I am this lady's husband', is another ego. Then, 'I am this child's father, is a third ego. So how many different forms of egos are there? Then even if he does not have
Dadashri: No, it will go down; it will not increase. Ego and mamata ('my-ness) are naturally attained things, they are not created. This hum of 'I am something great' is a created thing.
Ego, pride and pride with 'my-ness'
(ahamkar, maan and abhimaan) Questioner: What is the difference between ego
