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interest. There, even if you try to do the ultimate good, it will become your selfish interest. People wonder and ask, 'How can we be selfish for you Dada?' Hey, go ahead and be selfish about me. It will be for your ultimate good-parmarth.
Questioner: I came here because I was attracted but I have come for the lalacha (greed) to attain Gnan, is that not so?
Dadashri: That is the best lalacha (greed). That is the highest kind of lalacha worth having. If one does not have such a lalacha, I would tell him, 'You are not very shrewd, you have a deficiency in this area.' There is nothing in this worldly life that merits having greed (alacha) for. Greed (lalacha) for this, the Gnani and the Gnan is greed worth having. It is great that you have greed for this.
Questioner: But is this not greed for Gnan?
Dadashri: It is the intention behind the greed that is taken into consideration, because greed does great work if the intention is good.
Questioner: This can be considered greed for a good cause, can it not?
Dadashri: It is not greed for a good (shubha) cause but it is for the absolute (shuddha) cause. Even giving to charity or doing something similar is considered an auspicious cause. Then comes the inauspicious (ashubha) intent. But wherever there is pure (shuddha) intention, where the ultimate is to be gained; that is the pure intention It is not found in scriptures, it has not even
been heard of. Questioner: Now who besides a Gnani would clarify things in this way? Otherwise it is so difficult to become liberated from this world.
Dadashri: There is no such awareness, is there? It will be very good even if a person were to recognize that he is in
bondage. However, because he is in bondage, he feels, 'Everyone else is doing it and so he finds an excuse to do the same. You fool! Everyone will jump in a well, but does that mean you have to do the same?
A person becomes 'fragrant' if his intense greed (lalacha) goes away!
Questioner: I have never heard the word lalacha with reference to spirituality.
Dadashri: No one would make such a distinction, would they? Who would do that? 'We explain to you things in details. Those who have read the scriptures will tell you that they speak about the four kashayas: anger-pride-deceit-greed! So someone may claim, "Sir, but that is in the scriptures too. Tell us something new. Therefore, this has been going on from time immemorial. When the scriptures were created it was written, 'It is an illusion when one sees a snake in a charred rope. Similarly, this world appears as an illusion.'Until today there has been no one to change or alter these words. Everything has been going on based on these words. This is a simile. They do not know any other simile. The greatest of men have given the same simile. Another simile is 'One sees silver in a shell'. These two similes have been used from the time scriptures were written. So why not say something new? Go ahead and say something new! The words should be new or they should be with a new effective design (designed to be effective), and they should be practical. They should bring about a meaningful change in human beings. Otherwise, of what good is anything that has been carrying on for a long time? I too would have found that simile if I were to read!
That is why Krupadudev has said that it is not to be found in the scriptures, it has not been heard before and yet the one whose speech gives you the experience, is considered a Gnani. Otherwise, he cannot be called a Gnani.
