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Dadashri: Yes vairagya will increase tremendously but what will happen if you start to dislike (abhaav) the other person? What happens if the ego arises, 'I tried to help those people but look how they turned out!' So what will happen if you start to detest (abhaav) them?
Questioner: That is another hole. Instead of this hole, that is another hole.
Dadashri: One will dig another hole. 'We' did not fall in that hole despite the big ego. 'We did not have any negative feelings towards anyone, even while experiencing difficulties.
Insight of welding from the beginning
Questioner: How did you weld? How did you not let difficulties bother you and still manage to keep your ego from arising while 'welding'?
Dadashri: It must be that kind of ego.
Questioner: How can we do the same, now that we have Gnan?
Dadashri: You will be able to do that when you decide ahead of time 'I want to take a beating in the process. 'Either way, the beating is inevitable. Who does not suffer in this world? So, why not suffer in the right way?
Questioner: That is true. Otherwise, we take a beating and we also ruin things in regards to the progress towards the Self.
Dadashri: No. Now the inner suffering has stopped and you have to take the beatings, whereas previously you had to take the beatings as well as endure internal suffering. As long as there is a body, the suffering will be there. After becoming a Gnani, 'we' have not had to suffer. After Gnan, 'we' can see whose karma is bearing the fruit and how it came about. 'We' must have had a part in it, which is why 'we' have to suffer the
beatings now. 'We' can see everything. Even then nothing of the sort comes to 'us' now. I had experienced my share of the beatings before Gnan. How many of these beatings can there be? Surely, there must be some kind of calculation for this in the world, should there not? After having united (welded) a father and son who were at odds with each other, they would become one, then they no longer had any need for me.
Questioner: Does it ever happen that in trying to weld, one of the parties will point the finger at you and accuse you of siding with the other person?
Dadashri: No. It is not like that. I did not have any such thing within me that they could accuse me of doing that. Even in my ignorant pre-Gnan state I did not have any such thing that could become a basis for others to point a finger at me. This is why I did not have to face such a dilemma. Both the parties became obliged and were appreciative of my efforts. They would dine together and do things together and this reinforced their unity. The problems would arise afterwards.
Welding is an art! Questioner: But we do not know how to weld and so it may even go wrong.
Dadashri: That happens because one does not have the qualifications. That never happened to me. It can only happen when the person is deficient in his qualifications. However, that was not the case with me. Everyone accepts what I say: if I tell them 'this is how it is everyone will accept it. Your state is on the deficient side.
The state of deficiency in this regard is such that, to begin with, one is weak and then when he tries to 'patch and weld others' or tries to mend other people's problems, and so he 'breaks' down with others in the process. All these are weak states. I will never break down. I have never broken down with
