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Aptavani-9
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Aptavani-9
This world is trapped because of suspicions. Very rarely will the mahatma who has taken Gnan, have suspicion even for a fraction of a second about the Self. This has not happened; it has never been heard of to occur. Here 'we' have not heard of anything like suspicion.
Questioner: Those who have not heard of the Self before would not have any suspicions but those who have heard of Atma repeatedly, will wonder, which is true, this or that?
Dadashri: What is the reason when a person does not have suspicion about the Self after having heard about it? After attaining this Gnan, one attains the experience that he indeed is the Self, and this experience never leaves, it is present even when he wakes up at two in the morning. Such a phenomenon as this, where the Self presents automatically, can never occur anywhere in the world. This is what we call the experience (anubhav). Attaining the Self is considered the experience. The awareness (laksha) of the Self is considered the experience (anubhav) because the Self is present even before he wakes up.
So, the one whose suspicion is gone has attained the absolute Self. Otherwise, no one's suspicions of, 'What is the Soul like?' are likely to go away. The suspicion and uncertainty of 'there is Atma' may go away on occasion, but not the suspicion over 'What is the Atma like?' This is deeply entrenched.
Turmoil and anguish will occur wherever there is suspicion. When there is no suspicion, not even for a fraction of a second; that is where the Self is. Then there is no suspicion left After Gnan, there is no one left to suspect
Once suspicions depart, everything falls into place. However, the fact you are rid of your suspicion is dependant
upon your karmic account, is it not? Just because someone else has been able to get rid of it, does that mean that you too will be able to do so? Not everyone has the same suspicions. So You have to ask within, 'What are you suspicious about? What kinds of suspicions remain?' One may reply, "No, I do not have any suspicions left any more.' Those who do will remain here for a while and by asking me questions, their suspicions will go away and their problems will be solved.
Questioner: When you ask me who I am, I have suspicions about saying 'I am Shuddhatma.'
Dadashri: The one who has this suspicion I am Shuddhatma' is verily the Shuddhatma. So 'You' are not sitting in the right seat. Take the correct seat, that seat will let you see who is having the suspicion. Gnan shows its presence, where such a
suspicion arises Now, after attaining this Gnan when you do something and have a suspicion of will I be bound by my mistake?' at this time because of the presence of the Self, that suspicion will fade away. Otherwise, who would have such suspicions? Do people of this world have such suspicions? Why not? It is because the Self is not present there.
So who experiences suspicions over doer ship, over the belief, 'I am the doer'? Whenever you have such a suspicion, know that the Self is present there and that is why that suspicion fades away.
Questioner: As long as the light of Gnan is burning that is when suspicions arise. How can there be suspicion when there is no such light?
Dadashri: Yes. You can see insects being crushed by a car only if the car's headlights are on but what if there is no light? There will be no suspicion at all.