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D. C.-Sudharman :-Actions (like ploughing etc.) which are connected with this life are alone fruitful, and those (like munificence etc.) that are connected with the other life, are not fruitful. This is the reason why there is no distinction between the lives of creatures in the two bhavas.
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Bhagavan :-But sadris'ata can never exist without cause as sadris'ata itself is produced from Karman. Now, when you take Karman (like dana etc.) connected with the other life, to be fruitless, there is no scope for sadris'ata to exist.
Sudharman-Sadris'ata of jivas could be brought about even in absence of Karman as in the case of ghata produced from earth.
Bhagavan :-If sadris'ya exists even in absence of Karman there will be akritagama (i. e., springing up of the unaccomplished object), as well as kritanas'a (i. e. destruction of the accomplished object ). Thus the existence of Karman itself is denied. When there is no Karman, how can the parabhava exist? And when the existence of parabhava is denied, the existence of sadris'ya between two bhavas will automatically be denied.
Sudharman:-The existence of bhavantara could be brought about even in absence of Karman as in the case of lifeless objects when Karya and karana are the same.
Bhagavan :-In that case, O Sudharman! the production as well as the destruction of bhavantara will also be niskarana. Consequently, the practice of austerities, munificence, and vows etc. would be good-for-nothing, as bhavantara will not depend upon those actions, and all people-whether doing good or bad deeds will have the same prototype life. Moreover, you should also take the vaisadris'ya or dissimilarity of various jivas from each other to be nis'karanaka like bhavantara. For, like bhavantara, there is karaṇābhāva in case of varsadris'ya also,
