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Dadashri: It is all about pleasure; it is not for the actual material thing. What is he going to do with things? The intense greed lalacha is for what is derived from such things.
Questioner: Is it not the same for a greedy lobhi person?
Dadashri: A greedy person is better because he has greed for only certain things. He does not worry about anything else. Sometimes he does not even care about women or other things. The only problem he has is with his greed lobh.
Questioner: Which is worse, greed or intense greed lalacha?
Dadashri: Intense greed lalacha! A person with intense greed lalacha will not get the opportunity for liberation. Straight people do not have any such difficulties. The life of a person with intense greed lalacha will remain full of insults and difficulties.
Questioner: But does he feel hurt by the insults?
Dadashri: If that were the case, his inclination towards intense greed lalacha would subside. A person with too much intense greed lalacha is openly shameless (naffat).
Questioner: So the one who has pride maan and wants respect, does not care about intense greed lalacha?
Dadashri: The one who is concerned about his pride and status is not likely to give in to other weaknesses. This is because he is afraid of being insulted.
Questioner: But what if intense greed lalacha for pride enters into it?
Dadashri: Yes, that intense greed lalacha is there too. That is the intense greed lalacha! We call that beggary bhikha for respect maan.
Questioner: But can a greedy lobhi person also be one intense greed lalacha?