Book Title: Aptavani 09
Author(s): Gnani Purush Dadashri
Publisher: Gnani Purush Dadashri

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________________ Questioner: That happens when I make him take a note of the separation. Then the one within will agree ‘Yes, both are separate.' Dadashri: That happens when You make him take a note with proofs- evidences purava. Questioner: So in the same token in order to understand and maintain the exact awareness, 'All the non-Self complex phases are not mine and I am Shuddhatma’, do we need to give all proof-evidences? Dadashri: Proof-evidence purava is the main thing. Questioner: What are the proof-evidences that help to understand this within? Dadashri: That which takes numerous evidences to get the work done, is 'not mine'. When three things got together to get the work done, it is 'not mine'. Even if you do not cut a mango with a knife but bite into it with your teeth, because everything had to come together inorder for the eating to take place, means it is 'not mine'. You will have to understand at the subtle level, will you not? Do you think you can make do with understanding at the gross level? Questioner: The main thing vastu the Self is the sookshmattam. subtlest Dadashri: Yes, the main vastu thing is the subtlest and if you are only dissect it at a gross level, what will happen? Questioner: But this is something new that you just told us. Dadashri: No it is not new, it has always been there from the beginning. This knowledge was with the tirthankaras and it is here today too. What can I do when according to your 'law book' you claim it as new? 'I-ness' melts away with real experience A person thought he had become absolute. I told him. “You have become nothing, do not grope around. There are a lot of things you still

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