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no 'I-ness'. Everyone's 'I-ness' is there where the karma unfolds. But will continue to go down after attaining Gnan. It will not increase. It will go down until it ends completely.
Questioner: One sees the 'I-ness' when the karma unfolds, no?
Dadashri: Yes. That is why 'we' have said that as the karma unfolds, the experience of the Self will increase and the ego will go down. This is how everything becomes regular. The experience as the Self anubhav then continues to increase.
Specific details of 'seeing and knowing'
Questioner: So then we do not have to worry about getting rid of the ego. It will automatically happen in an orderly manner as the karma unfolds udaya and all we have to do is simply see' joyaa it.
Dadashri: No. You still have to do purushartha. Do not take the approach, 'I do not have to do anything'. In fact, the real purusharth remains to be done from this moment onwards.
Questioner: But besides just being the seer jonaro', what other purushartha is there?
Dadashri: You have to 'see continuously' but such ‘seeing' does not happen. Such continuous 'seeing jovai is not easy. You have to do purushartha. If You employ purushartha, then You will be able to see'.
Questioner: So what kind of purushartha is to be done?
Dadashri: Only the purushartha to 'see what is 'burning' within and and how is it burning.
Questioner: That is the 'seeing' is it not?
Dadashri: But this 'seeing' jovanu it is not easy. Man cannot 'see'; Man is not able to 'see'. If he does purushartha then he will be able to 'see'. If one becomes the Self, purush, and does the purusharth of not becoming absorbed tanmayakar, then only the 'seeing' is possible. Otherwise seeing after becoming absorbed tanmayakar has no
