Book Title: Aptavani 09
Author(s): Gnani Purush Dadashri
Publisher: Gnani Purush Dadashri

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________________ Questioner: Then he is bound to fall. Dadashri: He has already fallen. He falls from the moment he moves away. The speech without ownership is the sign of the Gnani After attaining the Gnan, the entire 'I-ness'potapanu gradually melts down to zero. When it goes down to zero, one is considered a Gnani. Then the speech vani will change. Vani flows only after potapanu leaves. By whatever proportion 'I-ness' goes away, that much speech will arise, and that speech is correct. Until then all speech is wrong. Elsewhere, except for those who have taken our Gnan, there is a presence of 'I-ness' whenever people speak. Such speech will not have any effect, it will blow away in the wind. That is not speech vani; it is all relative. As for our mahatmas , they are to speak only after their 'I-ness' is gone, otherwise they are not to speak. Moreover can any mahatma who has taken Gnan speak even a single sentence that is his own and stands independently? No. This is the sign that no one has attained the 'main' thing yet. No one has attained the absolute state yet. He cannot speak even a single sentence, if he did I would be astonished. I would say, 'that is enough proof!' If I were to hear even a single sentence, I would realize that it is amazing! But it is not possible, is it? How can he utter even a single sentence? How can vani speech flow? How can the speech without ownership flow? Questioner: It would be more than enough if one were to methodically say exactly what you say. Dadashri: If they spoke methodically and exactly as it is, it would be like gold. Only understand this Vignan, nothing needs to be done Questioner: This talk of purusharth is extremely important. That is all that is left after Gnan.

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