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Do you think it easy to see and know'? But all the mahatmas claim, 'Dada, we see and know, the whole day.' I tell them that is good because they would not understand the subtleness of it and I will have problem explaining to them. I am discussing this degree of subtleness just because of you otherwise it cannot be discussed.
Questioner: But this is necessary.
Dadashri: But whom should I tell? I can tell only certain people.
The attainment in Akram Vignan
Having attained this Gnan, You have become the Self, but not the absolute Self. It is pratiti Self, the conviction, 'I am the the Self' is for ever. Then the prakruti has become oopsham is settled down, yet the Self is only at the level of conviction pratiti Atma. All our mahatmas have the pratiti Atma.
Questioner: So after attaining this Gnan, the entire prakruti has become oopsham quietened down?
Dadashri: Yes, when it becomes oopsham, it is more than enough. Just to arrive at the state of oopsham is the greatest purusharth. That in itself is the greatest attainment labdhi and not nothing compares to it.
Questioner: What purushartha is there just because the prakruti has quietened down , become oopsham?
Dadashri: That also is called purushartha. When prakruti becomes oopsham, it will become helpful to You. So when You do purusharth, it will produces results. Your purusharth will not be fruitful if the prakruti does not become oopsham.
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Questioner: But that prakruti is still going to overflow, is it not?
Dadashri: It may act up. But even then, sooner or later the purusharth of the person with upsham prakruti will be fruitful. Once it becomes oopsham, it will not overflow. The state of oopsham will not go
