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Questioner: Here I can see that I am separate from this shirt, but what is to be 'seen' there?
Dadashri: That is exactly how one 'sees' it all separate within.
Questioner: What is seen in the vision darshan? Give us one example.
Dadashri: Don't you have the know that this stone is separate from your hand? Then, these are the attributes of the stone, and these are the attributes of my hand, will one not know this?
Questioner: Yes. I would know all the attributes of the stone, that it is heavy, it is cold, it is square...
Dadashri: It is smooth.
Questioner: So how can one remain in the state of 'these are not my attributes and these are mine'?
Dadashri: You should be aware that this cold comfort is not mine, this smoothness is not mine, this anger that occurred is not mine, this deceit that occurred is not mine, the kindness that occurred is not mine and so on!
When you are lying down, can you not tell you are separate from it? You understand that don't you?
Questioner: In that situatuation I can understand that the bed and the one sleeping on top are separate but the problem arises when it comes to maintaining awareness that the different phases of the pudgal the nonSelf complex of thoughts, speech and actions, are separate from the Self. In other words the problem is with maintaining the focused awareness upayog jagruti.
Dadashri: There is some awareness in the situation with the bed but awareness of the Self is gone away substantailly, is it not? The separation of the body from the bed is in his awareness khyal.
