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Questioner: I am beginning to appreciate this after prolonged familiarity and contact with it.
Dadashri: The one, who is saying this—the one who is instrumental in switching the tracks, would not have any deceitful aggression prapanch. He is simply speaking out of idiocy—unaware of the reality of this universe. If the switch happens to me, then there would be a major problem in satsang, no? You say, 'Such thing happened, Dada' and Dada believed that—become beguiled with reference to the total vision of the path of liberation, then where is the substance in it?
Questioner: With what adjustment are you not accepting that matter?
Dadashri: I would know right away. Its value, I can understand everything. I would know from the moment he starts talking that he is being partial, and is trying to make me take sides. If Gnani Purush becomes naïve then all is lost. He may look guileless bhoda and simple. For the One who has no element of deceit kapat where is the talk of being naïve and guileless bhoda? Where there is guilelessness bhodpan deceit kapat exists for sure. Deceit exists on the other side of guilelessness. Where there is no deceit there is not an iota of guilelessness bhodpan.
Questioner: So does guilelessness bhodpan exist on the basement of deceit kapat?
Dadashri: Foolishness prevails on the foundation of deceit. When deceit-kapat leaves foolishness will not remain.
Questioner: What is the nature of that deceit kapat? What kind of deceit is that?
Dadashri: All varieties of deceit-kapat! Deceit means to keep everything secret from the self, to veil the self, to keep all matters hidden from the self. All kinds of deceit! Deceit of taking advantage of someone, to keep secret one's own thing from others; that is also deceit!
Questioner: So from what is one trying to hide all this?