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Dadashri: To hide one's matter from becoming known to others, one employs deceit. If one is talking in secret with someone, and someone else enters the room, would he not stop talking?
Questioner: Yes, that happens.
Dadashri: What can be the reason for that?
Questioner: Is that called deceit?
Dadashri: Then what else can you call it?
Questioner: So where is the guilelessness in this?
Dadashri: Deceit kapat exists therefore guilelessness bhodpan exists on the other side of it. If this much foolishness—lack of guile, which led to change of tracks—were not there then deceit would not have arisen. Deceit is the pointer and sign of foolishness. Guilelessness exists where deceit exists. And where guilelessness exists, one should take it for granted that deceit is there.
Questioner: The track that you have mentioned, that track should not be switched-changed. So now if the track has not been changed, then what should we consider as the goal destination of this track?
Dadashri: Goal of moksha—liberation, salvation! What other goal? That is the main line!
Questioner: And if the goal changes then what other kind of goal would arise?
Dadashri: One runs swiftly to the side opposite to moksha. It would take no time! And one would feel, 'I am indeed on the path of liberation.'
Questioner: So in there which kind of a mistake lingers on?
Dadashri: That verily is this kapat-deceit and the foolishness. After listening to other people, one is unable to differentiate what is right or wrong. "What is correct and what is wrong?