Book Title: Aptavani 09
Author(s): Gnani Purush Dadashri
Publisher: Gnani Purush Dadashri

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________________ Purushaarth should begin with the right intent The 'I-ness'potapanu will leave if there is Gnan, otherwise it will not leave.. Questioner: But we have all attained Gnan so with Gnan the aapopu 'I-ness' keeps increasing, because later we realize that instead of decreasing , this 'I-ness' has increased. Dadashri: That is not aapopu. The term is for a very high spiritual level, just prior to leaving the body. When purity comes in, that is the state free of any kashaya, then the residual 'I-ness' is considered aapopu or potapanu. Questioner: The 'I-ness' may have gone but even then often the one does the dakho interferes. Dadashri: But what is the evidence it has gone? You are saying that dakho interference happens to you. It does not appear that this 'lness' is gone in anyone. Once it leaves, there will no interference dakho. There will not ever be any interference again. It is not something that increases or decreases. It is very real thing. Once 'I-ness' potapanu is gone, it is gone forever; one will not see it again. Do you feel as if it is partly gone but it also partly remains? No, it is not like that. This ‘I-ness' is not something that once it leaves, it will return. To begin with, this 'Iness' is something that is not likely to go. In fact, this is the first time this subject about "departure of I-ness' is even being discussed. We do not have any 'I-ness'. Questioner: What happens if one wants to bring back the 'I-ness'? Dadashri: It will not come, will it? How can it return once it is gone? Questioner: This ‘I-ness' is bound to go away with Your Gnan, that is for sure, but how can it go away faster? Dadashri: Just as we can increase the speed of a train, we can also increase this speed if we employ the right tools sadhan. But You should look neither for haste nor for laziness here. To do so, is all a form of

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