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Consequences of gurutta
Do you have a desire to be laghuttam?
Questioner: Yes.
Dadashri: That is very good.
Questioner: They say, 'Prabhuta se prabhu dur' God moves away from the one wants to become a God.
Dadashri: Yes and that is why I have said that I remain liberated and laghuttam. Still I enjoy the grandeur of a guruttam state. My appearance and conduct is laghuttam. For the world I am the smallest; I am laghuttam and for those who want to attain Gnan, I am the greatest, I am guruttam. So, if you want liberation, I am guruttam and there is no one higher than me. And if you want to be great in the worldly life, then I am laghuttam. Now if people want liberation and if I do not say I am guruttam, then nothing will be achieved. And what do people want to be in this world?
Questioner: They want to be guruttam.
Dadashri: Where did you see that?
Questioner: I have seen it in me.
Dadashri: But that is not the case with people outside, is it? Are there any guruttam people out there?
Questioner: Yes.
Dadashri: Is that so? Are they all not in guruttam? They all believe this the relative self, is the atma and we have to make it guruttam.' Everyone has a desire to be guruttam. Everone wants guruttam. They get slightest of respect and they are happy and their guruttam increases. They want liberation and yet they become guruttam. Now is that a contradiction or not? That is a sign for wandering for countless lives because those who have tried to be guruttam in the relative worldly interactions have all fallen. They all became trapped. Tell me, did they get trapped or not? Only those
