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Dadashri: The compulsive habit latta has been formed already. Now one needs to be done with it, settle with it.
Questioner: How?
Dadashri: With the utterance of the words, 'I do not want anything, I am experiencing bliss,' the latta—the compulsive habit-begins to leave instantly. As soon as you decide, 'I do not want anything at all', the compulsion changes.
Questioner: What all is included in relative worldly benefits?
Dadashri: Everything! Even while entering a train, or a bus he does dakho interferes-behaves as 'I am Chandulal.' Everywhere he interferes.
Questioner: Which issues are considered for the mahatmas who have taken Gnan?
Dadashri: All the matters...! He has come from the same situations (from past life). Everything is firmly consolidated so it is giving fruit (effect) now. With awareness, if you do not taste the fruit and even if you taste them if You remain separate as the Self, from Chandulal—the relative self, then the correct result will follow. Those fruits are sweet, no? That is why a human being cannot remain separate. He will taste it (get involved as Chandulal), no? It is very difficult to rise above deceit kapat. Deceit is the only dangerous thing. Anger-pride-greed these kashayas can be rid of, but kapat-deceit is tough.
Questioner: So then this need to enjoy worldly pleasures and the deceit stays with it constantly. This then is very difficult to overcome, no?
Dadashri: Awareness-jagruti will help. Along with this awareness, the decision and the nischaya—firm resolve, 'I do not want anything,' will help.
Questioner: This means, one resolves, except for mokshaliberation, I do not want anything?
Dadashri: Yes, I do not want anything at all. Whatever may come to me but I do not want anything,' such a resolution will be necessary.
