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What has happened in the world is that people believe the relative to be real and then they continue to go about their life. They have not attained the reality even for a day and they accomplish nothing. They wander around for countless births from one life to another. There has not been a line of demarcation between the real and the relative and that is why the world is in a state of confusion. People believe the relative to be real because of this and they try to make the relative guruttam give it increasing importance. They make guruttam of that which was meant n to be made laghuttam, that is that which needs to be devalued. This verily is the illusion bhranti. Then what do they claim? 'We are removing the illusion', but the illusion is actually increasing. Don't you think so?
If there is an experiment, and a sceientist conducts it. And I do the same experiment. I do not know how how to do it. Then what might happen?
Questioner: There will be a sudden fire.
Dadashri: Yes and all the ingredients would be wasted. All my efforts would be wasted and on top of that I will burn my fingers. What would happen if I stuck my finger in the experiment to check to test it? And if the scientist were to stick his finger to check, he would not get burnt. Do you understand? Therefore, the one conducting the experiment should be familiar with it. I have given you the line of demarcation between the 'relative and the 'real' and so you do not have to worry.
The intent of Laghuttam makes one follow The Five Agnas
Now what are 'we' saying? Now You have the exact life of demarcation of what is real and what is relative. The line of demarcation tells exactly that this much is real and this much is relative. In the 'real' there is the Shuddhatma, the Self. And in 'the relative', you have been the five sentences. Everything else is nikali simply a discharge, it is of no concern to You.
Questioner: Is the discharge nikal happening?