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wise people there are! “You are being over-wise', this is what I have to tell some people.
This is a Vignan. Many people tell me; 'make laws, do this, do that' You fools! What kind of people are you that despite attaining such a Vignan you have not become wise? What a Vignan this is! A Vignan where there is no scope of arguments!
Questioner: Rules and laws was the only way to discipline people until now.
Dadashri: That is fine for people at large but ours is the path of liberation. People who want to wander around in this worldly life, they need laws. Otherwise, laws cause conflicts and conflicts give rise to the worldly life.
Questioner: Are there not laws on the path of liberation?
Dadashri: No laws are needed on the path of liberation. Here there are no laws. Everything is natural. Whatever happens naturally is correct.
Questioner: You said, 'where there is liberation, there are no laws; where there are laws there is no liberation. Liberation is through absolute humility param vinay.' So absolute humility encompasses everything, does it not?
Dadashri: Yes. Absolute humility encompasses everything. With rules, one will be required to keep a tulsi plant (tulsi leaves are used in prayer rituals in the kramic path, they also have medicinal properties). If a mouse nibbles away at the tulsi, he will have to keep a cat. The cat ruins the milk and so he has to keep a dog. Where does it end? Therefore, here we have the law of ‘no laws'. Here we are applying Vignan and so the slightest of interference is madness. It is tantamount to being over wise.
I will say things as they are. Then if someone were to become obstinate and strong headed jakki, then I will know there is tremendous ignorance on his part and that he is harming himself, so then I will not say anything more; I will remain silent. If he starts arguing, it is because he cannot understand what I am saying. Would he argue if he did?
