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Questioner: You said, 'There was (Dada had) a lot of ego'. So did you experience all these phases through that ego?
Dadashri: Yes. I experienced them from all the sides. I also saw their perspective view' (three dimensional) too. I could see what the perspective' ego looks like.
Questioner: What does it look like?
Dadashri: I recognize it. I recognize its front elevation, back elevation, a perspective view . I would know from all these views. I can see what 'Dada' looks like in back elevation, in front elevation and from the perspective view. I can see and know what the nose looks like.
Questioner: The nose is part of the body but what do the phases of ego look like?
Dadashri: I can see the ego in the same way too. Once you see that perspective of the body, then you will see that of the ego too. The ego will melt but these are 'body parts' and they are dependent upon the body.
Questioner: What do you mean by 'body parts'?
Dadashri: If a person has a small nose, his ego is small too and if his nose is big, his ego is big. Therefore, however it is with the body, it is the same with the ego.
'Hum' ('I-ness' with ego) is an obstacle on the path to moksha
Questioner: What is the difference between ahamkar and ego?
Dadashri: They are the same thing.
Questioner: This thing called 'hum', is that also an ego ahamkar?
Dadashri: 'hum' is different and ego is different.
Generally it is considered that wife and children are major obstacles in attaining liberation. Are these the only things that hinder moksha? There are
