Book Title: Aptavani 09
Author(s): Gnani Purush Dadashri
Publisher: Gnani Purush Dadashri

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________________ enjoyment from that. And if the other person is asleep, he will not be satisfied until he wakes up the other person and tells him! Questioner: But does he not get encouragement when that happens? Dadashri: He gets encouragement but what increases as a result? Is the soul likely to increase? It is the ego that increases. Questioner: As the ego continues to get encouragement does the soul not lose by that much? Dadashri: That does happen. Questioner: Now when it is in the form of a discharge and one continues to see it as a discharge, without interruption. What is the method of that 'seeing'? Dadashri: When you watch a movie, what is being used in the process? Your sthool external eye and your sookshma subtle inner eye, both are used. When it is needed, these outer eyes are used for outer things or when needed for subtle understanding samaj the inner eye is used. So keep 'seeing joyaa karvoo what 'it' pudgal is doing, that is all! Know jaanvoo what it pudgal is doing. Keep seeing all the garvaras he is tasting, and later, admonish him a bit by, 'Chandulal, why do you still taste this? Why don't you smarten up a little bit?' That is all. Questioner: Sometimes I tell him, 'Be quiet and sit down you bundle of nonsense! Dadashri: Yes, he will straighten out if you call him a "bundle of nonsense'. Tell him that he will not get even four pennies for this sense. Before they used to say, 'akkal na baardaan aviya' 'here comes the one laden with intellect'. Now, is that garvaras bitter or sweet? Questioner: It tastes sweet. But what should a person do inorder to not taste the garvaras?

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