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happiness, the one they have not seen before, and they become convinced that 'It is exactly what Dada says', then it will go away.
Questioner: Do our mahatmas have this garavata?
Dadashri: Yes, and they are able to understand that they are possessed by garavata but they still like it.
Questioner: What is the solution for not wanting to stay in that garavata and to get out of it?
Dadashri: The solution is to decide, in your mind, whether it is this or that, they are both are made equal. Then there is a solution Equal ! Samaan! Equal in value to You.
Questioner: So the pleasure one gets from garavata..
Dadashri: The value of that and the value of this, when he considers them to be equal. When he makes them both of equal value.
Questioner: But what two values?
Dadashri: The value of this garavata and the value of other things like food and drink that is available. It garavata will go away when the value of the two is made equal. When he comes to know jaaney , experience, that there is no pleasure in either of them, then it will go way.
People do not understand garavata.
Questioner: But, is there any other solution, for those who have taken this Gnan, to get out of garavata?
Dadashri: But does 'Chandulal' have the effect of garavata or the Shuddhatma'? If the effect of garavata remains, then he is 'Chandulal' and if not, then he has become 'Shuddhatma'.
Questioner: But Dada we have come here to do Dada's darshan, we want to sit with Dada, we have interest in that too, is that not also garavata?
