Book Title: Aptavani 09
Author(s): Gnani Purush Dadashri
Publisher: Gnani Purush Dadashri

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________________ no embodied soul smaller than the one who is laghuttam. That is the definition of laghuttam. Questioner: Is it the same as when people say, 'I am dasanudas - I am the servant of servants' – the humblemost? Dadashri: No. People have reached dasanudas a state of being a servant of servants but no one has reached the state of laghuttam. Whereas I am in a laghuttam state and that is why people will attain salvation. In the worldly sense , from the relative perspective, I am laghuttam and in nischaya - from the real or absolute perspective, I am guruttam. I am nobody's guru . I consider the whole world as being my guru. I consider you all, my guru. If I am sitting on the floor here, someone may ask, “Why are you sitting here?' People will not let me do so. They will make me get up and sit higher up. Otherwise, I prefer sitting down on the floor. Therefore, I am not in a state of being a superior gurupad, I am laghuttam. Laghuttam must be your intent So I am not your superior. You are my superior. I have never thought myself as being superior, so you do not have a problem do you? You will be afraid of me only if I was superior to you, you may feel 'He is a big man, what will he say?' You may scold me but I will not scold you. If I scold you then it means that I am in the wrong. And if you scold me, it is because of a misunderstanding on your part. You do it because there is weakness in you, is it not so? Otherwise, the whole world is my superior because I am laghuttam. How many superiors do you have? Why don't you say something? Questioner: I am not ready to accept laghuttam. Dadashri: Why? Is it not possible? It is like this, guruttam means to climb higher. When you have to climb a mountain, does it take more effort to climb up or down? Questioner: To climb up the mountain. Dadashri: So lagutam means to come down; that can be done very effortlessly, can it not? 'We' did it very easily. So always, have an inner intent of laghuttam. The more the inner intent bhav of laghuttam you have

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