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Dadashri: Nevertheless, what I am saying is that this is all contrary. People believe they are binding merit karmas. However, it is better than gambling.
Questioner: But how does that bind demerit karma paap? That is not his intention. No one even gets hurt.
Dadashri: It is not to hurt anyone. One wants to enjoy and keep tasting garvaras doership in it. There is no substance in whatever he does when he enjoys the greatest garvaras of, 'I know it, I understand it'. Anything said with this as a foundation has no substance. It is not worth exposing. Do not expose it too much. I expose it to some extent and it looks bad. As long as one harbors the belief, 'I know', his face will never look fresh.
Questioner: But how can that be attained without ego?
Dadashri: What kind of ego does one need to maintain? Maintain ego of, 'I do not know anything'. Such an ego will reap fruits. Otherwise there will be no fruit and it will only increase in the rise of 'poison', 'poison will keep rising for sure. If anyone who knows all the four Vedas comes and tells me, 'I know all that', then I will tell him in just one sentence, 'you do not know anything.' The definition of knowing is that one does not say anything
Questioner: Can one attain the goal if his ego is saatvik good and worthy?
Dadashri: It is difficult to maintain saatvik good and worthy ego. It is very difficult to define such an ego. Saatvik ego, worthy ego is that which maintains, 'I do not know anything'.
Questioner: It is that which happens spontaneously and naturally.
Dadashri: No, it is just the ego of 'I do not know anything. Therefore everyone is searching in vain. The whole world is searching in vain. It is not possible to find even a single word of the truth. This truth is not such that it can be discovered. The truth people have found is temporary truth; it is truth that will perish.
