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Dadashri: There is no abhimaan where there is saiyam absence of kashaya. Abhimaan is blind and where there is saiyam, you will not find abhimaan . Not only abhimaan but you will not find ego ahamakar there either.
The zero state of the Gnani Purush
We are allowed to have abhimaan about attaining the status of the Lord of the whole universe and yet 'we' have less abhimaan than even a young child. 'We do not have an ego ahamkaar at all. 'We would not be able to attain all this if 'we' had ego. The one who has no ownership of the body, the one who has no ownership of the mind, no ownership of the speech, becomes the owner of the entire universe.
Questioner: But some people say that one can often see abhimaan in a Gnani Purush. How can that be?
Dadashri: Where there is abhimaan, there is no Gnan, and where there is Gnan, there cannot be any abhimaan.
Questioner: Does that mean that Gnan and abhimaan cannot coexist?
Dadashri: Gnan and abhimaan can never co-exist. There is either Gnan or abhimaan. If you see abhimaan when you slap a 'Gnani', then that is ignorance agnan and you will clearly see that this cannot be a Gnani.
Yes, until 'we' attained Gnan, dehabhimaan 'I am this body' existed. It increased as I grew older. When I was born it was about 25% but as I grew up, it increased 150%! It used to gnaw at me even when it was about 25% so do you think it did not bite me more as it increased? When it bites or gnaws as you, it is abhimaan and when there is internal suffering, it is the ahamkaar ego. Abhimaan is a constant gnawing.
Instead of mere ego, I had pride with myness' abhimaan. I was also a tundmijaji—this is a person who does not have any understanding, no money and yet he has endless arrogance and some even used to say that I had lot of ghemraji—such people do not value anyone. I did not have Gnan at that time and I had collected baggage of such high quality from my past
