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Agnas and he makes a firm decision to constantly abide by them. When if he breaches the Agna then he does pratikraman for it, then he will make progress.
If he is going to turn around, he will do so by being close to the Gnani. There , he can turn around if he through unity of his mind, body and speech he speaks with a pure chit but not otherwise. Intense greed lalacha will not allow the chit to become pure shuddha. However, he will not be aqble to maintain his decision. Intense greed lalacha will break that determination.
Questioner: But does he not feel, on occasion, that he wants to get out of that trap?
Dadashri: Of course, that may be there, but first the intense greed lalacha has to go, then he can get out.
Questioner: Will it not come to an end if he remains in the Gnani Purush's Agnas?
Dadashri: It will come to an end if he gets rid of his intense greed lalacha. If he makes an effort and determination that he absolutely wants to remain in the Gnani's Agnas and does pratikraman when he cannot remain, then he will make progress. Then he must become 'regular', be without conflict with everyone at home. If he abides by the Agna to deal with all his files with equanimity, then he will become 'regular' will he not? Then he should continue to see - abide by the Agna of 'real-relative'.
Even then 'we' have to ask him whether he has 'seen' everything by way of the Agnas. If he had, then this would not be the outcome, would it? The result of 'seeing through Agna would be instant. This is all done through the intellect buddhi; it does not help at all. All the talk here in this regard is also through the intellect buddhi.
Questioner: So does he adjust to all the Agnas through the intellect buddhi?
Dadashri: Yes, not through Gnan, it is through the intellect.
Questioner: So what kind of results will that produce?
