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Aptavani-8
The First in the World...? Questioner: So where were all the living entities (jivas) created?
Dadashri: These living entities have not been created. The Atma is indestructible (avinashi), and that which is indestructible can never be created. It is there forever. It cannot be created, nor can it be destroyed. No one has been created nor destroyed. All that you see is just an illusion (bhranti). It is the circumstance (avastha) that comes to an end. The circumstance (avastha) of old age, the circumstance of youth; are all slowly destroyed, but the Self has always remained the same. So it is the phase that comes to an end.
Questioner: But there were no living beings (jivas) on our Earth before, were there? So where did they all come from?
Dadashri: Who said that they were not here? Questioner: Science says so.
Dadashri: Science does not say that at all. Science accepts everything. This earth has never been without living entities (jivas).
Questioner: Vignan (science) also says that first came living entity (jiva srushti), and then came human beings (manushya srushti).
Dadashri: This Vignan was not around in those days. This world has been around since time immemorial. It has not had a beginning and it is not going to come to an end.
Questioner: I often wonder who the first ancestor (purvaj) was to be born? But I have not found an answer.
Dadashri: If there were a first ascendant, it would mean that he had a beginning, and once there is a beginning, there is an end, so the world would end. But the world is not going to
