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Aptavani-8
Even With Complete Ignorance, One Can Find
the Atma! And the whole day is just spent in worry. While gnan (scriptural knowledge) sits on the shelf. Alas! Even if there were ignorance (agnan), it would still be good. Find me one such man in Hindustan (India), who has attained ignorance (agnan). Even if he has attained ignorance, I would say to him, 'son, you have understood this shoreline (kinaro), so you will understand the other shoreline as well.' But he has not even understood that side. Whichever side he is standing on; even there he has no awareness (bhaan) of where he stands. So he has not even become one who is ignorant (agnani). He should know either the ‘wheat' or the 'grit’; then he will know both.
The four Vedas (Hindu scripture) have said, “This is not That, this is not That, na iti, na iti'. However, they have not even completed the ignorance (agnan). If they had completed it, there would be no reason to say, 'this is not That (na iti)', and then the other knowledge would have come forth. But from there, they became weary of saying, “this is not That (na iti, na iti)'. The Veda of course, gives an explanation of knowledge (gnan) and ignorance (agnan). However, if ignorance (agnan) were allowed to be completed, then the Atma would have presented itself. But they did not allow it to complete.
The World - As It Is
Discuss whatever you want openly. Here, we will talk about the world, as it is. 'We' will say “no' to 'that which is not, and 'yes' to 'that which is'. 'We cannot say 'yes' to 'what is not' and 'no' to 'what is'. 'We' are responsible for each and every word. We have all the information needed to get you there. Because not for a single second, have I become the owner of this body, nor have I become the owner of this mind.
This speech, is the original tape-record that is speaking; I
