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meaning of chanting a name (samaran)? Therefore, the Atma is continuously present and one has to start saying it naturally on one's own. It is not something we make him say and he repeats it. It should come on its own.
Questioner: But can the inspiration to say, 'I am Shuddhatma' come from within or not?
Dadashri: Of course it can!
Questioner: Then is he saying it or is he being made to say it?
Dadashri: Here, it is not a question of saying it or making one say it. No one is saying it, and neither is anyone making you say it. And the one who makes you say it, the one making you say it becomes liable.
So whatever you are looking for, is ensconced in darkness. What you are looking for ahead is all in darkness. And there is not anyone who will make you say it. It is this scientific circumstantial evidence that is speaking, and what you are talking about, is all pitch darkness. Those who have ventured on that side, are all wandering around in vain.
Factionalism Is the Unnatural State
Questioner: So does the Knowledge (Gnan) of the pure Soul (Shuddhatma) that we attain from you, not become a cult or sect?
Dadashri: No, this cannot have a sect! Where there is unnaturalness (vibhavikta); there is a sect. Where there is naturalness (swabhavikta); there naturalness arises, and there could not be a sect there! Because, in that case, one would be doing the worship (darshan) of the Shuddhatma in trees and leaves; cows and buffaloes, and all the living entities (jivas); so how can there be any separation or sect? He sees God all around, everywhere!
