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gets done. Therefore, you need to find out from the Gnani Purush, who you are, and what is binding you.
They Are All Mechanical Adjustments
Questioner: Now, in the state where the vision is directed internally (antarmukha) there is a voice that says, 'What you are doing is wrong' and things like that. Is it Atma that is speaking to us?
Dadashri: That cannot be the Atma; that is a tape record. Just as there is this tape recorder on the outside, inside there is an original tape record. Is that what you are calling the Atma? Even prominent officers say, 'It is my Atma speaking’. Goodness, can that be the Atma? It is a tape record.
Questioner: If it is not the Atma talking, then who is the one saying, 'what you are doing is wrong??
Dadashri: That is a tape record. The knowledge of worldly interaction (vyavahar gnan) that you know, that knowledge of worldly interaction, is not the Atma. It is Knowledge of the Self (nischay Gnan), that is the Atma. The worldly knowledge that you know, has been taped before and that is the voice that you are hearing. And that is why it bothers you that, this is how it should be in the worldly interaction (vyavahar), and I am doing something wrong'. So that cannot be the Atma.
Moreover, the Atma does not speak; it does not eat. It does not drink and it does not breath. That kind of worldly interaction (vyavahar) is not the Atma. All these are not the functions of the Atma. The Atma's work is completely different. The qualities of the Atma are different.
Just like the gold and copper in this ring, are mixed together, and if you wanted to separate them, who would you give the work to?
