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Aptavani-8
The Atma is a subtlest (sookshmatam) thing, and the regions outside of the Atma are subtler (sookshmatar). So 'we' saw everything up to the subtler (sookshmatar). Now since speech does not exist at the subtler level (sookshmatar), that is where speech (vani) ends; all speech ceases. Therefore, 'we' have to say, that you need to discern through the experience (anubhav). That is what is said about experience; it is not understood by knowing about it, it is understood through experience. The outcome (nivedo) occurs through only experience.
The Atma Through the Vision of the Atma
Questioner: But Dada, it is said that see 'the Atma through the Atma' so what does it mean, to do the darshan (see) of the Atma through the Atma?
Dadashri: By 'through the Atma' they mean that you must see the Atma through the worldly atma (vyavaharik atma) that they believe in. But you must bring an instrumental person (nimit) into it. Bring in the instrumental person (nimit) who has seen it. He will take care of your adjustment in such a way, that you will reap its rewards. Otherwise if you try and see it on your own, you will get nothing out of it. That is because your vision (drashti) is based on the physical senses (indriya). And there you will need something that transcends the senses. Unless the Gnani Purush releases you from the indriya gamya (mediated through the senses), and gives you the part that is beyond the senses (atindriya gamya), and changes your vision (drashti); you will not be able to see. That is why 'we' change your vision. The Goldsmith's Vision Is Always on the Gold
If you have a gold ring that has been taken to the goldsmith many times, the gold in it will become impure. People will say, 'Why do you wear that ring? The gold is impure.' So you should ask yourself, the gold has become impure, so what am I going to do now? So if you take the inferior gold to the jeweler, will
