Book Title: Aptavani Shreni 08
Author(s): Dada Bhagwan
Publisher: Dada Bhagwan Aradhana Trust

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________________ Aptavani-8 349 an hour? This is the same sort of intoxication and influence as the one who speaks while inebriated. That is how one becomes intoxicated by 'I am Chandubhai, I am Chandubhai'; the wrong belief has set in. Questioner: You say that the Atma has always been pure (shuddha). There must be another power (shakti) that is even more powerful than it, so would that not be why the Atma has become impure (ashuddha)? Dadashri: The Atma has infinite power (shakti), and so does the non-Self complex (pudgal). The energy of the pudgal has bound the whole Atma and now, it will not let it go. Therefore, even the non-living matter (jada) has infinite energy. Have you not seen an atomic bomb explosion? So even matter (jada) has infinite energy. Questioner: If the energy of matter is considered to be greater than the energy of the Atma, then can it take away the Atma again? Dadashri: What do you mean by again? Questioner: Why? Once it has become pure (shuddha), can it be dragged back into impurity? Dadashri: No. After becoming pure, nothing touches it. Questioner: But was it not pure to start with? Did it not become impure (ashuddha) later? Dadashri: Its fundamental form (swaroop) is always pure. But it is this vision (darshan) that has become impure (ashuddha), that becomes pure (shuddha) again. And so the ego (ahamkar) is annihilated. Questioner: What I am trying to say, is that the Atma was once pure; it was free from all passions (nirvikari). Dadashri: And it is free from passion (nirvikari) even now!

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