________________
320
Aptavani-8
occur. Some will experience more impurity and some will experience less impurity. That will go on happening. And this may lead one to think, “Dada made me pure (shuddha), but there is still all this impurity'. And once that sets in, it gets spoiled again. The Intent of Doership Leads to Bondage of
Karma Questioner: If a person has received the Knowledge of the pure Soul (Shuddhatma), and someone slaps him, if he slaps the person back, are we to assume the knowledge has had no effect on him? Or that his state of being Shuddhatma is still weak?
Dadashri: You cannot say that the Knowledge of Shuddhatma is weak.
Questioner: So why did he slap him back?
Dadashri: When he slaps the other person back, at that moment, he is separate. In his mind, there is remorse that, “This should not happen, why is this happening?' This Gnan is such, that when you make a mistake, you would instantly know it. And if you realize that you have made a mistake, you would immediately feel regret without a doubt.
And the incident that has occurred has nothing to do with Gnan (Knowledge). These are all his discharge intents (bhaav).
Questioner: If one has become a pure Soul (Shuddhatma), if he has taken this Gnan, and has become perfect, how would we be able to tell from his behavior?
Dadashri: He would not have any egoism; his doership will have disappeared.
Questioner: Say for instance according to him it is, 'I am not doing this'. So when I slap him, I say, 'I am not slapping him; it is the body that hit him, the Atma has not hit him', then?
