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devoted to the Atma (Atmanishtha). Only after the intellect has gone, does this light (of the Self) arise. The intellect is present in the person who is devoted to God (Brahmanishtha); therefore, he does not have this light.
Brahma Is Even Beyond Words
Questioner: There is also the word 'shabda brahma’, is it not!
Dadashri: But the word shabda brahma means that it creates a ringing sound in the ears. What benefit do you get out of it? That is why one needs an exact Brahma. There are so many brahmas like that. Shabda brahma, naad-brahma! But you need the real Atma; which is incomprehensible (agamya), cannot be put down in the scriptures (shastras), is indescribable (avarniya), and inexpressible (avaktavya)! Where words cannot reach, where even vision cannot reach – is where the Atma is. And it resides in a state that is pristine and untainted (nirlep bhaav); it remains only in a state of detachment. And word (shabda) and sound (naad); are all “stations”. It is not that important. It does not mean that you have attained that Atma. The Atma is something that once attained, does not go away - that is called Atma. Not even for a second does it move away – that is called Atma.
Questioner: When can you hear naad brahma (sound of brahma)?
Dadashri: You can hear the sound of brahma, when you stop listening to everything else. When your ears do not listen to anything else, then you can here the sound of brahma. But you also have so many desires to listen to all kinds of other things. You want to know this, and you want to know that; you want to listen to this and you want to listen to that! If someone starts talking about something useless, you immediately ask, “What happened? You can easily hear the sound of brahma (naad brahma), once all these desires come to an end. It is a natural
