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Aptavani-8
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Questioner: Where the Atma is concerned, as long as there is the worldly life (sansar), is there not always going to be a place for speculation and argument?
Dadashri: That is why you have to attain the Atma from the Gnani Purush, and that Atma must remain in the Knowledge (Gnan), and follow his Agnas (special directives).
Questioner: I am trying to do that, but even then I am confounded with doubts and speculation.
Dadashri: You have to receive this Gnan from here, just once, then you have to stay in the Agna (the directive). Then you must come to the satsang (gathering of enlightened people) and ask questions. Besides, this Gnan is a state that is free of 'my-ness' and 'I-ness' (nirvikalp)! How can you have the ego 'I am Chandubhai' (vikalp) in this egoless (nirvikalp) Gnan? If you have ‘my-ness' or 'this is mine' (sankalp), and the ego of 'I am Chandubhai' (vikalp), it means that you still have not attained the Atma. The one who has ‘my-ness' - 'I-ness' (sankalp-vikalp), can never become free from ‘my-ness' and ‘I-ness' (nirvikalp).
The Body Goes, but Not The Belief
Questioner: When one gives up his body, do these wrong beliefs go away on their own?
Dadashri: You mean when a person dies? Questioner: Yes.
Dadashri: No, those wrong beliefs arise again. Just because a person dies, it does not mean he goes to final liberation (moksha). The person dies, so he takes with him, all the stock he accumulated while he was here. The anger-pride-deceit-greed (krodh-maan-maya-lobh), and everything that is in the stock, he takes with him; he leaves nothing behind. The whole family goes along with him, and wherever his new life starts again, is where it all begins anew.
