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Dadashri: You can believe that, but along with it, do you not also suffer unhappiness and pain (dukh)? So if the Atma were the manifestation of the Absolute Soul (Parmatma), then have you experienced unhappiness?
Questioner: Yes, I have experienced unhappiness (dukh).
Dadashri: Since you do experience unhappiness, you will have to believe in all the numbers from one to hundred. And if you do not experience unhappiness (dukh), then it is fine if you do not believe in them. Otherwise, you will have to believe in all the numbers from one to hundred: forty-five, then forty-six should follow, and after forty-six, forty-seven should follow. Everything will have to be methodical. No falsity and no discrepancies. It may work everywhere else, but in science, falsity will not work!
Questioner: So does it mean that the Atma is now a separate element, since it has separated from the Absolute Soul (Parmatma)?
Dadashri: Not separated; the Atma itself is the Absolute Soul, and even the embodied soul (jivatma) is the Absolute Soul (Parmatma). The difference only lies in the understanding. When he is at home, they will say, 'He is this woman's husband.' And when he goes to the shop, they say, 'He is the boss.' When he goes to court, they will say, 'He is the lawyer. But he himself is the same person. Therefore, it is the same embodied soul (jivatma); the same interim state Soul (antaratma); and the same Absolute Soul (Parmatma)! And each one is ascribed an adjective according to the work that it performs.
There Is No Merging of Souls Questioner: So is it true that the Atma really does merge into the Absolute Soul (Parmatma), if not in one avatar (lifetime), then perhaps in the next avatar or even in the third avatar?
