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real, which means that it is eternal (sanatan). And all that is relative, is temporary (vinashi).
Questioner: You have said, that everything that is relative, is all temporary (vinashi), and that it is destructible. Now, according to scientists and from the perspective of Hinduism, there is not a single element in this world, which is temporary (vinashi). So what are you referring to when you say, destructible?
Dadashri: That is exactly what I am saying, that no element (tattva) in this world is temporary. And that element is according to the perspective (drashti) of the element. You have not even seen that element! Do you experience things that are permanent (avinashi) or things that are temporary (vinashi)?
Questioner: Neither permanent nor temporary.
Dadashri: When cups and saucers break, do you say that the cups and saucers are destructible (vinashi), or do you say they are indestructible (avinashi)?
Questioner: I do not call it anything. They are the same thing.
Dadashri: The same? But do all these other people consider it the same? As for everyone else, because cups and saucers break, they consider cups and saucers to be temporary (vinashi).
Questioner: But what is your opinion about the temporary and destructible (vinashi)?
Dadashri: Vinashi means that when you break cups and saucers, you will feel anxiety, or when your clothes catch fire, you feel anxiety. That is why all these things are temporary (vinashi). What about this body, is it permanent (avinashi) or is it temporary (vinashi)?
Questioner: Even the body is not temporary (vinashi). Dadashri: Is it not temporary? So, all these people do
