________________
270
Aptavani-8
Dadashri: God's grace will bring all the circumstances together. When there is God's grace (krupa), in order to attain the state that is beyond the body (dehatita), one will come across someone whose state is beyond the body (dehatita purush), who will help him attain the state that is beyond the body. However, even though he may be in a state that is beyond the body, he will not be able to help you attain the state of being beyond the body. Only rarely, will you come across such a Gnani Purush who can make you attain the state that is beyond the body (dehatita). Otherwise to become dehatita, is not an easy thing!
Questioner: So that you can attain God's grace (krupa), to attain the state that is beyond the body (dehatita), what sort of strong self-effort (purusharth) do we do, and how much of that effort must we make?
Dadashri: It is because of your strong endeavor (purusharth), that you have met me. Whatever strong endeavor (purusharth) you had made; you must have made a good strong endeavor for us to have come together. Now that we have met, you should know how to reap some kind of benefit. Here, you will receive whatever you ask for. People look for things in their own language; they look for things that they can understand. You are asking for the attainment of the state which is beyond the body (dehatita), and that state of beyond the body can be attained right here. People are not even aware that there is such a state as a state beyond the body. There are very few people that seek the state of dehatita. They are not around. Seeking Without Understanding, To What Avail?
Questioner: But is the direct experience not of the Atma only attained after you have undergone many, many penances and other rituals?
Dadashri: No. Even if you accomplished a lot of penance,
